Talk:Madoka Kaname

Rewriting

I will be re-writing and expanding this article after 2-3 weeks or so. I just added some contents now since Madoka is the protagonist of the series and her article was lacking informations. NotEnglishSpeaker (talk) 17:55, 16 May 2020 (UTC)

Expanding her article soon...NotEnglishSpeaker (talk) 00:28, 2 August 2020 (UTC)

GA Review

This review is transcluded from Talk:Madoka Kaname/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: Lee Vilenski (talk · contribs) 18:09, 6 December 2020 (UTC)

Hello, I am planning on reviewing this article for GA Status, over the next couple of days. Thank you for nominating the article for GA status. I hope I will learn some new information, and that my feedback is helpful.

If nominators or editors could refrain from updating the particular section that I am updating until it is complete, I would appreciate it to remove a edit conflict. Please address concerns in the section that has been completed above (If I've raised concerns up to references, feel free to comment on things like the lede.)

I generally provide an overview of things I read through the article on a first glance. Then do a thorough sweep of the article after the feedback is addressed. After this, I will present the pass/failure. I may use strikethrough tags when concerns are met. Even if something is obvious why my concern is met, please leave a message as courtesy.

Best of luck! you can also use the {{done}} tag to state when something is addressed. Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)}

Please let me know after the review is done, if you were happy with the review! Obviously this is regarding the article's quality, however, I want to be happy and civil to all, so let me know if I have done a good job, regardless of the article's outcome.

Immediate Failures

• It is a long way from meeting any one of the six good article criteria -
• It contains copyright infringements -
• It has, or needs, cleanup banners that are unquestionably still valid. These include{{cleanup}}, {{POV}}, {{unreferenced}} or large numbers of {{citation needed}}, {{clarify}}, or similar tags. (See also {{QF-tags}}). -
• It is not stable due to edit warring on the page. -

Prose

Lede

• the titular protagonist - WP:SEAOFBLUE, usually we'd just say "title character". These are almost always the protagonist.Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 18:21, 6 December 2020 (UTC)
• witnessing her senior Mami Tomoe - "her senior" in this instance has it's own meaning, but usually you'd say "senior X", like "senior classman" Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 18:21, 6 December 2020 (UTC)
• known as "witches" - this isn't a quote. Try italics. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 18:21, 6 December 2020 (UTC)
• Same for "nightmares" Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 18:21, 6 December 2020 (UTC)
• video games should be video games. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 18:21, 6 December 2020 (UTC)
• various fan polls, ell-received by fans and critics - we don't really care about fans, and the article doesn't really talk about fans. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 18:21, 6 December 2020 (UTC)
• Lede could probably do with something about her design. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 18:21, 6 December 2020 (UTC)

Thanks, all of these have been addressed. The reason I used "fan polls" in the lede was because some of the polls were fan votes, though to make the part more general I've changed it to simply "polls" to also include the ones that weren't votes. Narutolovehinata5 ^tccsdnew 04:57, 7 December 2020 (UTC)

General

• In the initial planning meeting of Puella Magi Madoka Magica - you still need to link the first time you talk about something in the body. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 18:36, 6 December 2020 (UTC)
• I think a sentence at least on what Madoka Magica is, when it was released etc. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 18:36, 6 December 2020 (UTC)
• Image is weird on the left - could we move to the right? Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 18:36, 6 December 2020 (UTC)
• Madoka was designed by Ume Aoki.[4] Aoki initially - starting a sentence with the last word of the previous is not a great look. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 18:36, 6 December 2020 (UTC)
• Link Magical Girl in body et al. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 18:36, 6 December 2020 (UTC)
• and designed a very "cute" magical girl costume - is it "very cute" as a quote, or is very part of wikipedia's voice? Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 18:36, 6 December 2020 (UTC)
• After seeing the character design, the president of SHAFT, Mitsutoshi Kubota, thought that it was a good that the production team to got in touch with a new style, but it also brought challenges to the animation production - worth saying what SHAFT is, and needs a c/e as it doesn't make sense as is. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 18:36, 6 December 2020 (UTC)
• Ultimate Madoka - italics. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 18:36, 6 December 2020 (UTC)
• Ultimate Madoka's form has been described as "the ultimate form that has undergone a super evolution by fighting infinite space-time" and was called "Hyper Ultimate Madoka" in the series draft, but was later changed to "Ultimate Madoka - according to whom? Also the quotes at the end. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 18:36, 6 December 2020 (UTC)
• In an interview with Animate, Yūki remembers how she was still a teenager at the time of the series' production, and thus had decided to do her best with the role. - what does this mean? Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 18:36, 6 December 2020 (UTC)
• In an interview with Animate, Yūki remembers how she was still a teenager at the time of the series' production, and thus had decided to do her best with the role. She felt that the material was interesting from the time she saw a document explaining the series when she auditioned for the role, and thought that Madoka Magica would become something that many people would enjoy. Among the things she enjoyed the most while working on the series include the unfolding of the story, and the balancing of a serious story with the character designs and the usage of the cast. - this whole bit seems promo-y, and could be shortened to a few words really. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 18:36, 6 December 2020 (UTC)
• In the English dub - link dub. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 18:36, 6 December 2020 (UTC)

All of these have been addressed. I had some difficulty simplying the part about Yūki since it was intended to be a paragraph on her thoughts on working on the series, to compare to the similar part about Cabanos. I've also clarified the Ultimate Madoka description and introduced both the franchise and Shaft inline. As for the "cute" thing, I presume it's a quote, but I have no way to check as the source is an offline Japanese book that I don't have a copy of. Narutolovehinata5 ^tccsdnew 05:01, 7 December 2020 (UTC)

GA Review

GA review (see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)

1. It is reasonably well written.

   a (prose, spelling, and grammar): b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):

2. It is factually accurate and verifiable.

   a (reference section): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR): d (copyvio and plagiarism):

3. It is broad in its coverage.

   a (major aspects): b (focused):

4. It follows the neutral point of view policy.

   Fair representation without bias:

5. It is stable.

   No edit wars, etc.:

6. It is illustrated by images and other media, where possible and appropriate.

   a (images are tagged and non-free content have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):

7. Overall:

   Pass/Fail:

Review meta comments

• I'll begin the review as soon as I can! If you fancy returning the favour, I have a list of nominations for review at WP:GAN and WP:FAC, respectively. I'd be very grateful if you were to complete one of these if you get time. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 18:09, 6 December 2020 (UTC)

Thanks, promoted. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 01:39, 14 December 2020 (UTC)

Did you know nomination

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Yoninah (talk) 12:00, 25 December 2020 (UTC)

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• ... that when designing the character Madoka Kaname, Ume Aoki used Yuno, the protagonist of her manga series Hidamari Sketch as a basis? Source: Puella Magi Madoka Magica Production Note (Limited Edition) (in Japanese). SHAFT. p. 135. ISBN 978-4896106268.
  • ALT1:... that the character Madoka Kaname was originally intended to have white as a theme color, but this was changed to pink as designer Ume Aoki had forgotten? Source: Puella Magi Madoka Magica Official Guidebook: You Are Not Alone (in Japanese). Houbunsha. p. 106. ISBN 978-4832240612.

• Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Judiciary of the Philippines
• Comment: The article has been promoted to GA status per the addition of an icon; however, for some reason the GA review page hasn't been updated to reflect this, I am willing to put the nomination on hold until that is resolved. Requesting a special occasion date of January 7, 2021 (Japan time if we're still doing two sets a day then), the 10th anniversary of Puella Magi Madoka Magica's premiere.

Improved to Good Article status by NotEnglishSpeaker (talk), Maplestrip (talk), and Narutolovehinata5 (talk). Nominated by Narutolovehinata5 (talk) at 01:32, 14 December 2020 (UTC).

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Adequate sourcing: Neutral: Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:

Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Cited: Interesting:

QPQ: Done.

Overall: Who doesn't love Madokers. And who'd have thunk she was supposed to be like Yuno from Hidamari. I guess they both have the wide face. Would love to the main page adorned by the Madoka majestic. You love to see it. jp×g 00:08, 18 December 2020 (UTC)

• @Yoninah: Are you okay with the special occasion date, or would you prefer this to run as a regular hook? Narutolovehinata5 ^tccsdnew 10:49, 23 December 2020 (UTC)

• @Narutolovehinata5: yes, since we're already up to building the January 7 set. I'll move this to special occasions. Best, Yoninah (talk) 11:11, 23 December 2020 (UTC)

• @Narutolovehinata5: Please add an inline cite for the ALT1 hook fact. Thanks, Yoninah (talk) 23:52, 24 December 2020 (UTC)

@Yoninah: The relevant sentence is already cited: the sentence in question goes Although Madoka's theme color was initially intended to be white as suggested by Urobuchi in the series' draft, Aoki forgot this when designing the character, and changed the main color of Madoka to pink. Narutolovehinata5 ^tccsdnew 01:38, 25 December 2020 (UTC)

• Sorry, I meant ALT0. And now I see the inline cite for that too. Yoninah (talk) 11:58, 25 December 2020 (UTC)

Render

There's an inconsistency in renders of the five girls, for example Homura and Sayaka's pages use their Magia Record renders, but Madoka, Mami and Kyoko's pages use different renders. Should we make the renders in Madoka, Mami and Kyoko's pages their Magia Record renders? I want to know what y'all think. HassanTNTA (talk) 12:39, 8 February 2024 (UTC)

Hi 2601:601:D480:2820:F813:2A4D:300B:5012 (talk) 05:42, 4 April 2024 (UTC)

Hello. HassanTNTA (talk) 10:52, 21 April 2024 (UTC)