Talk:Magic sword

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Many RPG do have magic-powered swords, this is not a speedy candidate! --SuperDude 03:41, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

• This will garner an overwhelming consensus to delete on VfD, just as the last CSD article you objected to did. But, if you insist, we can push it to VfD. I don't know how to get through to you to show you that creating junk articles like this is not beneficial to Wikipedia; however, the least you could do is accept the fact that these kinds of articles simply aren't going to be kept. android↔talk 04:29, Apr 19, 2005 (UTC)

I don't think this is a speedy. I'm going to take off the notice. The guidelines on speedies are not meant to cover this. Charles Matthews 07:50, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

• Good call. I posted it for a speedy since an admin was planning on doing it anyway. Looks like we have ourselves a real article now! Thanks for having a cooler head than I over this issue. - Lucky 6.9 19:16, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Votes for deletion results

This article was proposed for deletion; the result was to keep. See Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/Magic sword for a record. Postdlf 00:20, 1 May 2005 (UTC)

Other swords

should other swords such as Kladenets, Gram, Balmung, etc. be included here? if not: is there some obvious reason why an article listing Mythological/folkloric magic swords should not be made? --illumi 00:17, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

Don't see any reason why noteworthy swords shouldn't be included, though as part of discussion might be better than a list.

A list of magical swords would also be fine. Goldfritha 00:26, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

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American magic sword

Hey is there any kind of American mythological magic sword (not from sci fi).... I would think there wouldn't be as they all seem to predate the colonization era.... //// Pacific PanDeist * 09:32, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

Jabberwocky

Lewis Carrol never specifies exactly what is meant by 'vorpal', Jabberwocky is a very silly poem and vorpal could mean anything from 'sharp' to 'shiny' to 'made of live weasels'. To the best of my knowledge no definition is given by Lewis Carrol. Vorpal blades can be found in many RPGs, and it is D&D that gives vorpal blades the power to decapitate something on a critical hit. (The youth in the poem does hack off the creatures head, but this probably occurs after the creature's death). Paladinwannabe2 19:10, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

Caliburn and Excalibur

The article says that Caliburn was the name of the Sword in the Stone in Arthurian legend, and was a seperate sword from Excalibur. While most sources do support that the SitS was a different weapon, thos same sources state (And even Excalibur's Wikipedia article.) that Caliburn is simply an earlier name for Excalibur. To my knowledge, the Sword in the Stone never had any name other than "Sword in the Stone." --TwilightDuality (talk) 13:58, 20 August 2008 (UTC)

Bolding

My understanding is that bolding is used for synonyms of the article title, not for examples of the subject. So the names of swords should be unbolded. If I'm misunderstanding the rule, then all the names should be bolded here--one or the other. Nareek (talk) 10:55, 14 March 2009 (UTC)

Skofnung

How about a mention of the sword Skofnung from the saga of Hrolf Kraki?Bobbythemazarin (talk) 15:31, 23 November 2010 (UTC)

Nice one. I second that.73.220.34.167 (talk) 18:12, 15 March 2016 (UTC)

References

The complete dearth of references in this article is absolutely unacceptable and renders it utterly useless. 94.194.213.4 (talk) 11:40, 17 March 2011 (UTC)

Maybe be bold and edit the article yourself? Carl Sixsmith (talk) 11:49, 17 March 2011 (UTC)

Would be pointless...73.220.34.167 (talk) 18:13, 15 March 2016 (UTC)

What if the sword is not physical at least not within this reality or plan of existence? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.52.209.187 (talk) 04:49, 30 November 2011 (UTC)

Biblical swords

This section is controversial. Many would argue that the biblical accounts (as well as the swords) are neither fictional nor mythological. In addition, none of the biblical swords were ever said to be "imbued with magical power". Going by the Magic (paranormal) page, magic is synonymous with sorcery. Supernatural power acquired through sorcery is essentially different from supernatural power given by God. To label these swords as "magic" is incorrect and quite controversial (as somebody mentioned on the Talk:Flaming sword (mythology) page).

Besides that, this whole section is vague and lacks citations (especially for the stuff about "extra-biblical mythology and traditions"). 96.227.142.233 (talk) 21:49, 22 December 2014 (UTC)

If a god made a magic sword, it would then be magical, no? Or are you talking about things like flaming swords being obvious metaphors?73.220.34.167 (talk) 18:11, 15 March 2016 (UTC)

The only issue I see is it being out of the Mythological section. "Myth" is not a statement of truth or falsehood, and the mythology of the Bible includes swords.--189.127.29.141 (talk) 03:26, 30 July 2020 (UTC)

Abrahamic Swords?

"One would only have to see how they are referenced within the Holy Books of Christians, Jews and Muslims to make this point evident."

Where in these books are swords ever talked about? I mean, apart from some symbolism or a random reference. The Holy or Magical sword is more popular in German and Japanese culture than probably anywhere...73.220.34.167 (talk) 18:09, 15 March 2016 (UTC)

Peace and Love

"Since most of them were Buddhists (a religion that finds violence and murder abhorent), that train of thought gave them some peace of mind in their killing vocation."

This sentence sounds like "Buddhists are peaceful, unlike other religions". As is typical in Western thought. Most religions speak against violence and murder. But most religions, such as Buddhism, allow for both in the right situation. Buddhists are not utter pacifists or non-violent as Westerner make out. Just like the vegetarian thing in the West. Real Buddhists eat meat daily. Try finding vegetarian food in Japan or China!

There is also no citation. In my experience, no citation is an auto-delete.

"Abhorrent" is also spelled wrong.

73.220.34.167 (talk) 19:18, 15 March 2016 (UTC)

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Cleaning Up this article

After carefully reviewing this article I have come to the conclusion it is a mess.

I propose deletion of the biblical references. As demonstrated on this talk page they are a point of contention. Including them in this article, without citations, goes against the spirit of Wikipedia.

As this page more serves as a general overview, the inclusion of information in the lists may be served better as simple links to corresponding entries. The lists are currently extremely unorganized, bulky, and for the most part missing sources.

BrindleSLC (talk) 06:57, 18 November 2018 (UTC)

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