Talk:Marie Salmon

Did you know nomination

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. You can locate your hook here. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by TarnishedPath (talk) 01:56, 24 March 2026 (UTC)

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Portrait of Marie Salmon

• ... that Marie Salmon (pictured) was condemned to be burned at the stake for a crime she didn't commit, but she narrowly avoided execution by claiming she was pregnant?

• Source: Maza, Sarah (1993). Private Lives and Public Affairs: The Causes Célèbres of Prerevolutionary France. p. 224 ISBN 978-0520081444. Google books link: https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=-0RRcl0ElXQC&lpg=PP1&pg=PA212#v=onepage&q=pregnant&f=false "But when Salmon was brought into the room where she was to submit to the 'question,' she did the one thing that could stave off torture and execution: she declared that she was pregnant. The judges did what they had to do by law: they deferred the execution..."

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Created by Chao Garden (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

Chao Garden 🌱 (hi) 07:52, 1 March 2026 (UTC).

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Adequate sourcing: Neutral: Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:

Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Cited: Interesting:

Image: Image is freely licensed, used in the article, and clear at 100px.
Freely licensed: Used in article: Clear at 100px:

QPQ: Done.

Overall: Article is new enough, long enough, mostly well source, plagiarism free and neutral. I added several requests for citations within the article with tags, please could these be replaced? Hook is cited and interested; I don't think the image will be clear enough though when it's on the front page. I'd recommend replacing it with her portrait. No QPQ needed as first nomination (well done). Lajmmoore (talk) 17:31, 2 March 2026 (UTC)

Thank you Lajmmoore! I see the tags you added. I had left those lines without specific citations because they are leading sentences that summarize the paragraphs that follow (which wasnt' the right move, it seems?) So I'm happy to add those citations! As for changing the image, I agree that her portrait (that is used in her info box) is a good alternative! Can I simply edit my DYK entry up top to replace the image & caption directly, or is there another procedure for these types of changes? Chao Garden 🌱 (hi) 20:02, 2 March 2026 (UTC)

• Yes - the 'lead' is just the very top paragraph of an article - before any headings start, the summarises the content lower down. Everything under a heading should be referenced. Easy to be confused. Yes, just alter the nomination above. Lajmmoore (talk) 20:26, 2 March 2026 (UTC)

• Thank you again, Lajmmoore! I edited the article to address your feedback & also updated the image above. Chao Garden 🌱 (hi) 05:59, 3 March 2026 (UTC)

thanks, article and image look good Lajmmoore (talk) 21:10, 5 March 2026 (UTC)

Date of birth

I wrote Marie Salmon's birth year as "circa 1760," because it is contradicted across several sources:

1. Archives départementales de la Manche states in Didac'doc that she was born in 1756, according to an audit of baptismal records. They quote the parish register, someone named Lemelletier:

« Le saize janvier audit an 1756 a été baptisée par moy... »

"On the sixteenth of January in the said year 1756, [she] was baptized by me..."

2. Lüsebrink says 1763 in source (but when I tried to dig into his sources for that date, I couldn't find where it was mentioned):

Marie-Françoise-Victoire Salmon, née en 1763 comme troisième des sept enfants d'un journalier du village de Méautis en Normandie...

Marie-Françoise-Victoire Salmon, born in 1763 as the third of seven children of a day laborer in the village of Méautis, Normandy...

3. Marie Salmon's lawyer, Pierre Lecauchois, says she was born in 1760 at the start of his brief Justification de Marie-François Victoire Salmon:

Pour Marie-Françoise-Victoire SALMON, née en 1760...

For Marie-Françoise-Victoire SALMON, born in 1760...

4. The BnF states her birth year is 1760 in their record of her. (However, it's worth noting that, in the same record, the BnF incorrectly states that she married a famous Napoleonic general and duke.)

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So, given the above: I wrote "circa 1760" as her birth year and deferred to the date provided by her lawyer. I'm happy to discuss this date further here, if others disagree with me or have other sources. Chao Garden 🌱 (hi) 05:57, 30 March 2026 (UTC)

GA review

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

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This review is transcluded from Talk:Marie Salmon/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Nominator: Chao Garden (talk · contribs) 07:15, 3 March 2026 (UTC)

Reviewer: Jon698 (talk · contribs) 09:17, 16 June 2026 (UTC)

I will conduct a review once I finish Talk:Emancipation Pictorial/GA1. Jon698 (talk) 09:17, 16 June 2026 (UTC)

• @Chao Garden: Prose comments below. Jon698 (talk) 11:02, 17 June 2026 (UTC)

  • For your comments below, yes it is fine to keep their full names for the image captions. Jon698 (talk) 19:32, 17 June 2026 (UTC)

    • @Chao Garden: I have left two comments below regarding the images. Jon698 (talk) 03:48, 18 June 2026 (UTC)

      • After you answer my comments on the images I will do some copyedits to reorder some references just so that the numbering, like [19][20][18], is in order. Afterwards there will be nothing left stopping this from becoming a GA. Jon698 (talk) 04:20, 18 June 2026 (UTC)

        Thank you so much! I just finished swapping two images & fixing the caption of the last image. — Chao Garden 🌱 ~ say hello 04:27, 18 June 2026 (UTC)

Prose

• 1. "At 15, after her mother died and her father remarried, she left home to seek employment as a domestic servant." -> The sentence is already correctly written, but could it be changed to "After the death of her mother and her father remarried, she left home at age 15 to seek employment as a domestic servant." as I feel like that flows better

 Done I reworded this to "After her mother died and her father remarried..." — Chao Garden 🌱 ~ say hello 15:15, 17 June 2026 (UTC)

• 2. "Marie Salmon's duties for the household included preparing" + other instances -> Remove Marie since you already said her first name and there are no other Salmons to differentiate from

 Done Did this throughout the article body, but I didn't change the captions. Is that okay, or do you prefer that her last name only appear there as well? — Chao Garden 🌱 ~ say hello 15:15, 17 June 2026 (UTC)

• 3. "Paysant de Beaulieu died that same evening on 6 August 1781." -> Remove "Paysant de" as you already stated his full name before

 Done — Chao Garden 🌱 ~ say hello 15:15, 17 June 2026 (UTC)

• 4. "she smelled burned arsenic" -> This may be correct, but shouldn't it be "burnt" instead of "burned"

 Done Yes I believe you are right. — Chao Garden 🌱 ~ say hello 15:15, 17 June 2026 (UTC)

• 5. "regionally famous lawyer from Rouen named Pierre Noël Lecauchois" -> Wikilink Pierre Noël Lecauchois as this is his first mention in the article. You should also remove his full name from later mentions that are not quotations and just use Lecauchois.

Partly done Looks like he was already linked here. He is mentioned & linked in the lead as well, but if you don't mind I think it makes sense to restate his full name & wikilink here because this is his first mention in the article body. I fixed his mentions throughout the article, though I kept his full name in the caption to his portrait - is this okay? — Chao Garden 🌱 ~ say hello 15:15, 17 June 2026 (UTC)

• 6. After Jean-François Fournel's first mention you should just use Fournel rather than his full name

Partly done Similar situation to Lecauchois: I mention his full name & link him in the lead. Then, when he first appears in the article body, his full name and link is used again. Is this okay? I fixed all other mentions of him later, after that first time he's introduced (when Lecauchois recruits him to help in the case). — Chao Garden 🌱 ~ say hello 15:15, 17 June 2026 (UTC)

• 7. "used that pocket because her left hand had been disabled since childhood (see Early life)" -> The "(see Early life)" part looks unnecessary and I have never seen another GA use that

 Done I removed this and modified the sentence a bit to reference the story about the pig that is mentioned in Early life. — Chao Garden 🌱 ~ say hello 15:15, 17 June 2026 (UTC)

• 8. "In the months following Marie Salmon's exoneration, she and her lawyer Pierre Noël Lecauchois" -> "In the months following Marie Salmon's exoneration, she and Lecauchois" since Lecauchois has already been established to be her lawyer

 Done — Chao Garden 🌱 ~ say hello 15:15, 17 June 2026 (UTC)

• 9. "Lecauchois also wrote about an audience with "Mr de Cagliostro"" -> The quotations feel unnecessary and you can just wikilink directly to Alessandro Cagliostro

 Done — Chao Garden 🌱 ~ say hello 15:15, 17 June 2026 (UTC)

• 10. "in a ceremony before 1200 people" -> Put comma to make 1,200

 Done — Chao Garden 🌱 ~ say hello 15:15, 17 June 2026 (UTC)

• 11. This is fully optional, but you could move the two sentence Death section to just be the beginning of the Legacy section

? Would you mind if I keep this as-is? I have been meaning to expand this section a bit after I finish researching where exactly she died and where she was buried. Also, there are possibly some obituary-style tributes to her printed in newspapers like L'Année littéraire at that time. — Chao Garden 🌱 ~ say hello 15:15, 17 June 2026 (UTC)

That is fine. Jon698 (talk) 19:35, 17 June 2026 (UTC)

Images

• There are eight images, one in the infobox and seven in the body
  • 1. Marie Salmon (1756-1827) portrait (05A).jpg is a portrait of Marie Salmon from 1786, and is used to illustrate her in the infobox. This image is properly sourced to the Gallica Digital Library and is well into the public domain.
  • 2. Marie Salmon (1756-1827) supplice (05A).jpg is a drawing by Pierre Zaccone depicting Salmon on her way to her execution. This image is properly placed into the Conviction and delayed execution section. It is properly sourced to the Gallica Digital Library and is well into the public domain.
  • 3. Pierre Noel Le Cauchois - avocat au Parlement de Normandie né à Rouen en 1740... - estampe - peint par M.lle de Noireterre ; gravé par Cathelin... - btv1b69425469 (cropped).jpg is an engraving showing Salmon's lawyer Pierre Noël Lecauchois and a list of people he freed, including Salmon. This image is properly placed into the Retrial and exoneration section. It is properly sourced to the Bibliothèque nationale de France and is well into the public domain.
  • 4. L'Innocence reconnue... - Marie Françoise Vict.re Salmon, née en 1760, accusée en 1781... - estampe - Binet delineavit ; Patas direxit - btv1b84104971 (cropped).jpg is an engraving showing Salmon's innocence being recognized by the court. The caption is a bit on the long side, but is fine as is. It would be better placed in the acquittal section, but then it would clash with another image immediately below so it is fine being in the Prejudiced investigation section. It is properly sourced to the Bibliothèque nationale de France and is well into the public domain.
  • 5. L'Innocence reconnue de Marie, Françoise, Victoire, Salmon - dédié à Monsieur le Cauchoy, avocat au Parlement... - estampe - Duthé, sculp.t - btv1b6942549j (cropped).jpg is one of the many engravings made of Salmon after her acquittal. I propose that it swap places with image 6 as the Tributes section covers the engravings of her while image 6 can work in any section; image 6 also mentions Alessandro Cagliostro, who is in the Nobility and celebrities section. It is properly sourced to the Bibliothèque nationale de France and is well into the public domain.

•  Done — Chao Garden 🌱 ~ say hello 04:29, 18 June 2026 (UTC)

• • 6. L'innocence reconnue, EV0065.jpg is a fan depicting Salmon and Alessandro Cagliostro. Read my comments in image 5 regarding its placement. It is properly sourced to the Paris Musées and is well into the public domain.
  • 7. Le Mariage de la célébre dem.elle Marie Françoise Victoire Salmon, avec Mr Savari - chanson au sujet du mariage de Marie Françoise Victoire Salmon. Air de la rose naissante... - estampe - non identifié - btv1b8410520t.jpg depicts the marriage of Salmon and Jean-Louis Savary. This image is properly placed into the Marriage section. It is properly sourced to the Bibliothèque nationale de France and is well into the public domain.
  • 8. Révolution française. Caricature, satire sur l'abolition des privilèges, la fin des abus sous le règne de Louis XVI. Nec, G.22304.jpg is a satirical image about the end of abuses under Louis XVI. This image is properly placed into the Legacy section. It is properly sourced to the Paris Musées and is well into the public domain. The caption for the image should state what this image is about.

•  Done Good catch! — Chao Garden 🌱 ~ say hello 04:29, 18 June 2026 (UTC)

References

• There are 62 total references so I will do a review of 7, which accounts for 11.29% of the total. I will be using the reference numbers from this version of the page
  • 1. Page 184 of From the Royal to the Republican Body: Incorporating the Political in Seventeenth- and Eighteenth-Century France by Sarah Maza [Reference 5] is used to source the composition of the Huet-Duparcs and them being petit-bourgeois. Paragraph three of the page covers all of that.
  • 2. Page 39 of Justification de Marie-François Victoire Salmon Par Me. Lecauchois, Avocat au Parlement de Rouen by Pierre Noël Lecauchois [Reference 7] is used to source what Salmon claims she was doing during the preparation of Beaulieu's meal. The entire page covers the events described.
  • 3. Page 40 of Justification de Marie-François Victoire Salmon Par Me. Lecauchois, Avocat au Parlement de Rouen by Pierre Noël Lecauchois [Reference 8] is used to source Beaulieu becoming ill hours after eating. The third paragraph of the page covers this.
  • 4. Page 45 of Justification de Marie-François Victoire Salmon Par Me. Lecauchois, Avocat au Parlement de Rouen by Pierre Noël Lecauchois [Reference 13] is used to source Huet-Duparcs and their guests complaining of stomach pains after eating their soup, Madam Duparc claiming that she smelled burnt arsenic, and people crying out "We are all poisoned!" in French. The information is covered by the entire page and the quote appears in paragraphs two and four.
  • 5. Page 352 of Théodore-Éloi Lebreton's article on François Lambert in Biographie Normande [Reference 18] is used to source the Parlement of Rouen upholding her conviction, Lambert hearing and believing Salmon's innocence, Lambert telling her to pretend to be pregnant to delay her execution, and him calling upon Pierre Noël Lecauchois to reexamine the case. The second paragraph in the Lambert section covers all of this. The French word for bailiwick is used to describe the Parlement of Rouen, but this is not an issue whatsoever as both are terms for the court.
  • 6. Page 95 of L'innocence persécutée et ses avocats. Rhétorique et impact public du discours « sensible » dans la France du XVIIIe siècle by Hans-Jürgen Lüsebrink [Reference 20] is used to source two midwives examining Salmon, French law regarding pregnant women facing execution, Pierre Noël Lecauchois being called upon to reexamine her case, and Lecauchois and Jean-François Fournel taking the case. All of this is sourced by the page.
  • 7. Page 112 Justification de Marie-François Victoire Salmon Par Me. Lecauchois, Avocat au Parlement de Rouen by Pierre Noël Lecauchois [Reference 33] is sued to source Lecauchois' argument that Salmon had the composure of an innocent person. This information is found in paragraph 1.
• A review of 11.29% of the total references shows no issues with the sourcing.

Review

GA review (see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)

1. It is reasonably well written.

   a (prose, spelling, grammar, and understandability): b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):

   All of my prose and caption comments have been answered above.

2. It is factually accurate and verifiable, as shown by a source spot-check.

   a (reference section): b (inline citations to reliable sources): c (OR): d (copyvio and plagiarism):

   A review of 11.29% of the total references shows no issues with the sourcing. All of the sources are either academic or primary.

3. It is broad in its coverage.

   a (major aspects): b (focused):

   This article covers her early life, legal affairs, fame, and legacy.

4. It follows the neutral point of view policy.

   Fair representation without bias:

   No neutrality issues. The first and second trials are properly covered without bias.

5. It is stable.

   No edit wars, etc.:

   Only two people who aren't the nominator or reviewer have edited the page since May.

6. It is illustrated by images and other media, where possible and appropriate.

   a (images are tagged and non-free content have non-free use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):

   An assortment of contemporary images are used to illustrate the article. All of them are high-quality images that help the reader.

7. Overall:

   Pass/Fail:

   I have no issues with the article that would prevent it from becoming a GA. Excellent work.

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Peer review

Marie Salmon

Hello everyone, I've listed this article for peer review because I want to propose it for consideration as a featured article. I'm especially interested to know if you all think there are gaps in the historical context? That's where my last peer review for a different article fell short.

Also, all sources are available online. Technically even the Maza (1993) book Private Lives and Public Affairs is available on Google Books ("limited"/snippets view). I have the physical book & can provide quotes for anything, just let me know.

Thank you for your help — Chao Garden 🌱 ~ say hello 01:27, 27 July 2026 (UTC)

I have also started a section below to discuss inconsistencies with her birthdate and name, which I've tried to address in the article and talk page. I would love to hear peer reviewers' feedback on how I've handled the inconsistencies. Thank you — Chao Garden 🌱 ~ say hello 19:35, 31 July 2026 (UTC)

Not-cheesewhisk3rs

Will be reviewing this. --not-cheesewhisk3rs ≽^•⩊•^≼ ∫ (pester) 16:15, 30 July 2026 (UTC)

• Consider adding the relevant {{Use ... English}} template above the infobox.
• In the announcement of her marriage and in her death records, her full name is written as "Marie Françoise Anne Salmon". Is her name immediately at the start of the article an amalgamation of her given names? Personally I'd use her name as stated in a historical record, while keeping "Victoire" in the note. Haven't checked the sources yet so do as you wish for this one.
• The sections #Marriage and #Later life and death don't seem to be reflected in the lead, though this is something readers may come to the article for, so a brief mention of each would be appropriate.
• including from Queen Consort Marie Antoinette and Madame de Genlis. could add a brief statement of who Madame de Genlis is (e.g. how Pierre Noël Lecauchois and Jean-François Fournel are described as "lawyers" - just a one or two word explanation of who this is and why she's relevant for readers unaware of her)
• in Méautis, Normandy. MOS:GEOLINK
• was the daughter of a day laborer in Méautis, Normandy page 1 (MÉMOIRE JUSTIFICATIF) doesn't say this
• However, Salmon believed that Revel was trying to seduce her, - the source says she "noticed" instead of "believed"
• People became frantic, with a guest crying out which people? To be very precise and clear you could say "the guests" etc. instead of "people", which also sounds a bit unprofessional
• After conducting what would later be argued who argued?
• Time was short, sounds a bit awkward IMO, but I don't know specifically how to phrase it better
• Salmon suddenly fainted and then declared she was pregnant. "and" probably not needed here
• The execution was delayed while two midwives were summoned to examine her. link not needed
• as the criminal code of the ancien régime stipulated that If you're worried about lack of context you could explain what ancien régime means, as it's in French (obviously) and most readers don't speak French so won't understand. However that would require rephrasing the sentence to make space for explanation. I understand, but it's because I can speak French
• did not reach Caen until a few days before she was scheduled to be killed. try "executed" instead of "killed"
• (transl. legal briefs) sounds odd to me. Shouldn't this be singular "brief"? the article has it as the singular noun.
• Engraving of Pierre Noël Lecauchois by Cathelin and Noireterre. who?
• "le jeune Salmon 1786." Could add a translation in a footnote ("jeune" isn't an obvious word)
• All of the briefs were printed by Parisian publisher André-Charles Cailleau. I'm not sure this is relevant
• as translated by Sarah Maza I would drop the "as" here
• méconnoître [sic] le caractère unless the [sic] is in the source, the square brackets shouldn't be italicised
• in the section #Lack of evidence or motive the links to framing and motive aren't needed
• outside the gates of Palais de Justice in Why not "the" Palais de Justice?
• and a lifetime pension link not needed

Alright, that's all for now. I'll continue from #Freedom and fame later.--not-cheesewhisk3rs ≽^•⩊•^≼ ∫ (pester) 19:25, 30 July 2026 (UTC)

Thanks so much for your feedback here and below @Not-cheesewhisk3rs! I fixed that reference about her father being a day laborer; it was on page 35, not page 1. Two points I wanted to address above:

• "Is her name immediately at the start of the article an amalgamation of her given names? Personally I'd use her name as stated in a historical record, while keeping "Victoire" in the note. Haven't checked the sources yet so do as you wish for this one." - Her full name has been written as both "Marie Françoise Victoire Salmon" and "Marie Françoise Anne Salmon" in different sources. I went with the former because it's what Lecauchois called her in his legal brief. Also, Maza preferred to use "Victoire" (as her given name) per this footnote in Private Lives and Public Affairs . That being said, I'm open to making adjustments here. Ultimately, when it comes to her name and her age, I've deferred to what her lawyer Lecauchois wrote.
• You said that including the publisher André-Charles Cailleau (with regards to him publishing the legal briefs) didn't seem relevant. The reason I included it is because Salmon and Lecauchois stayed at his home after she was exonerated. I could move this further down & closer to the part about her being at his home, however.

Everything else above, I agree with. Thank you again for taking the time to review! — Chao Garden 🌱 ~ say hello 19:18, 31 July 2026 (UTC)

• I think this is fine.
• You could make this more clear, yes, but maybe it was because I read the article over two days that I didn't recognise him. --not-cheesewhisk3rs ≽^•⩊•^≼ ∫ (pester) 06:18, 2 August 2026 (UTC)

Continuing.

• Salmon also received a sum of money from the Archbishop of Paris. propose "Salmon also received a sum of money from the Archbishop of Paris, Antoine-Éléonor-Léon Leclerc de Juigné. " to avoid MOS:EASTEREGG
• Salmon and her lawyer Which? use the name
• A fan celebrating l'Innocence reconnue could translate
• Cagliostro is pictured opposite of them on the fan. Cagliostro is linked in body as well
• In his Détail sur la fille Salmon "his" probably not needed
• after the Affair of the Diamond Necklace and what was that? if it's unrelated the reader probably doesn't need to know about it. i suggest removing this background info or at the very least making it more clear why it's relevant/what the affair of the diamond necklace is.
• On 8 June, should state the year in case a reader skipped to this section and doesn't know the year
• Tributes in the form of engravings unlink
• The wedding ceremony was so popular, with people climbing onto the pews and railings, that soldiers were called to manage the crowds. WP:EXCEPTIONAL, this is sourced to primary material; I'll make a more general point about primary sources a little later.
• gifted the newlyweds a trousseau of suggest translating trousseau in brackets or just saying "dowry" since that's the link target
• Savary was also given a post link not needed - would be even better to say "job" as it's more immediately obvious
• castles of the Duke of Orléans see point above about MOS:EASTEREGG
• Salmon died in the 4th arrondissement of Paris on 2 May 1827 at the age of 67, surrounded by her surviving family. A single-line paragraph isn't ideal in most cases but i think it's fine here, so nothing to change on this one
• engraving by Jean Marie Mixelle [fr] and Sergent-Marceau who?

Some general points:

• There are a lot of claims sourced to what I think counts as primary material. Is there any way you can reduce how much is cited to sources such as Lecauchois 1786, say, by replacing with more modern sources such as Maza and Lüsebrink? I don't trust the words of a long-dead lawyer especially if he's french enough for a wikipedia article and I don't think the people at FAC will appreciate it either. I wrote above about how theres a bit of WP:EXCEPTIONAL but I'm not going to be too pedantic and bring up WP:DUE. just, I don't think Lecauchois is reliable enough to be used as often for content which isn't as straightforward as, say, Salmon's birth date.
• Archives de Calvados needs an archive url

All done. Good job overall, just those points to address. :) Do let me know when you bring this to FAC! --not-cheesewhisk3rs ≽^•⩊•^≼ ∫ (pester) 11:08, 31 July 2026 (UTC)

Birthdate and name inconsistencies

Not-cheesewhisk3rs mentioned the inconsistencies with Salmon's birthdate and name in the historical record, so I thought I'd add a separate section here to get feedback on.

For inconsistencies with Salmon's birthdate, I've posted about it on the Talk page (Talk:Marie_Salmon#Date of birth) & added the info to a footnote (Marie_Salmon#cite_note-birth-6). There are at least 3 dates that I've found in the scholarship / historical record, and I decided to use the date her lawyer Lecauchois provided.

Similarly, her given names have varied across different sources, with her full name written as either "Marie Françoise Victoire Salmon" or "Marie Françoise Anne Salmon". Again, I deferred to her lawyer here, who refers to her as "Marie Françoise Victoire Salmon". Sarah Maza also calls Salmon "Victoire" throughout Private Lives and Public Affairs (1995), because she says "Françoise or Victoire may reflect the preferences of her different employers. I call her Victoire here because she herslf seems to have used that name habitually." . I've thrown everything about inconsistencies with her name into a footnote (Marie_Salmon#cite_note-firstname-5).

I've love to know if you all agree with the editorial decisions I made here. Or if you think I should make changes. Thank you! — Chao Garden 🌱 ~ say hello 19:35, 31 July 2026 (UTC)