Talk:Melukote
Latest comment: 10 months ago by 103.91.183.207 in topic Why is a claim removed?
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Why is a claim removed?
editEveryone knows that on November 10, 1790, the day prior to Deepawali, Tipu Sultan Massacred around 1000 Mandayam Iyengars of this town. Since then to mourn for the killed innocent Brahmins,, the Iyengars do not celebrate Deepawali.
Why is this fact removed from the article? And the added nuisance of the caste system of India is not limited to this particular place, it was an omnipresent nuisance.
Dr. Dinesh Karia(Talk) (contribs) 17:27, 7 December 2020 (UTC)
- (1). @Dineshjk: it was removed as it was an unsourced claim. You will need to provide reliable source to back up your claims. Saying "Everyone knows" is not enough to add content on Wikipedia. See WP:Verifiability.
- (2). That bit about caste is relevant to clarify to the reader why this place is the primely inhabited by the Mandyam Iyengar community. This information is sourced to the book that is freely available on Archive.org. You are free to read the book and check the authenticity of the claims. Walrus Ji (talk) 17:37, 7 December 2020 (UTC)
- (2). So you added a bit abt the caste that Brahmins hated Shudras to justify why only Brahmins lived in the place. Do you realize the damage your speculation or plan to divide people has caused??? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Anindian2020 (talk • contribs) 18:17, 7 December 2020 (UTC)
- (2) Requesting you to delete that statement which by your own admission is idle speculation! Brahmins & Shudras still exist & since your comment is biased, please remove it as per https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Biographies_of_living_persons_dos_and_don%27ts — Preceding unsigned comment added by Anindian2020 (talk • contribs) 18:28, 7 December 2020 (UTC)
- That is not something that I made up on my own. That sourced fact. Please read the Page 83 of this book from where the content is sourced from.
- Buchanan, Francis. "A journey from Madras through the countries of Mysore, Canara, and Malabar". archive.org.
- where did I admit that it is idle speculation? It is not idle speculation but a sourced fact. Melukote is not a living person, it is a small town. I dont know why you are quoting "Biographies_of_living_persons" in an article about a town. I have read it but I dont see how it is applicable here. WP:Verifiability is applicable. Please read it.Walrus Ji (talk) 18:45, 7 December 2020 (UTC)
- (2) Requesting you to delete that statement which by your own admission is idle speculation! Brahmins & Shudras still exist & since your comment is biased, please remove it as per https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Biographies_of_living_persons_dos_and_don%27ts — Preceding unsigned comment added by Anindian2020 (talk • contribs) 18:28, 7 December 2020 (UTC)
- (2). So you added a bit abt the caste that Brahmins hated Shudras to justify why only Brahmins lived in the place. Do you realize the damage your speculation or plan to divide people has caused??? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Anindian2020 (talk • contribs) 18:17, 7 December 2020 (UTC)
@Walrus Ji: It is not unsourced claim. You can find it [1] or here
Dr. Dinesh Karia(Talk) (contribs) 07:51, 13 December 2020 (UTC)
@Dineshjk: Just edited the page adding these sources. Hopefully it is not reverted by Walrus Ji marking the source as unreliable. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Anindian2020 (talk • contribs)
- I am sorry I have to remove the source and the quoted content along with it. Postcard is a fake news site. It cannot be trusted for Wikipedia. Neither Times of India nor NEW indian Express are considered reliable source on Wikipedia due to the persistent problem of paid news and poor editorial standards of these newspapers. Indian Express is considered reliable, but not "New" Indian Express. Moreover the New Indian express talks about some incident in Mysore, and not in Melukote. Killing of 800 people is not a small incident. It is a big massacre. I am sure that you can easily find reliable sources discussing this incident if it is indeed true. Till then please do not add the disputed content. Walrus Ji (talk) 11:12, 19 December 2020 (UTC)
- I recently donated an amount to Wikipedia. I regret the decision now. Wikipedia is as unreliable as Postcard. They do not acknowledge the massacre of Mandyam Iyengars by Tipu Sultan. This community stopped celebrating Diwali, a major festival, from the day of the massacre. This itself is proof enough for me. Wikipedia is now headed by a Muslim. So I know the agenda of Wikipedia. I request all Indians to stop donating to Wikipedia. 103.91.183.207 (talk) 08:41, 30 December 2023 (UTC)
Waygars
editWaygars, Please explain what you are trying to do on this article. Please explain what is the relevance of these details in this article? Walrus Ji (talk) 17:05, 6 January 2021 (UTC)