Talk:Mortal Kombat (2021 film)

Page Removed

Why was this page removed? The actual film is coming in 2021 and that casting had started with production coming along. PizzaTime04 (talk) 07:48, 29 July 2019 (UTC)

IP is putting false info

An IP user is putting info from other Mortal Kombat films/games/media into here. Should we lock the page for only registered users? Iamnoahflores (talk) 17:21, 24 June 2020 (UTC)

The IP has already been reported to AIV, and while I can appreciate your heart being in the right place (and you being borderline in the right as it was reverting vandalism), I do need to point out that you were violating 3RR too. To be perfectly honest this should've been reported a couple of hours ago when the IP crossed the 3RR line. NekoKatsun (nyaa) 17:24, 24 June 2020 (UTC)

As an update, the IP has now been blocked for three months. Hopefully that will help. NekoKatsun (nyaa) 17:32, 24 June 2020 (UTC)

Premise

Can we please actually discuss what's going in the Premise section here, instead of warring about it on the article page? The two duelling versions are:

MMA fighter Cole Young, accustomed to taking a beating for money, is unaware of his heritage—or why Shang Tsung has sent his best warrior, Sub-Zero, an otherworldly Cryomancer, to hunt Cole down. Fearing for his family's safety, Cole goes in search of Sonya Blade at the direction of Jax, a Special Forces Major who bears the same strange dragon marking Cole was born with. Soon, he finds himself at the temple of Lord Raiden, the protector of Earthrealm, who grants sanctuary to those who bear the mark. Here, Cole trains with experienced warriors Liu Kang, Kung Lao and rogue mercenary Kano, as he prepares to stand with Earth’s greatest champions against the enemies of Outworld in a high stakes battle for the universe. But will Cole be pushed hard enough to unlock his arcana—the immense power from within his soul—in time to save not only his family, but to stop Outworld once and for all?

And:

Once in a generation, an inter-dimensional martial arts tournament will determine the fate of the opposing realm if the reigning Outworld is being declared the victor. A washed-up mixed martial arts fighter named Cole Young is unaware of his hidden lineage or why he is being hunted down. In concern of the safety of his family, he participates in the tournament alongside with a clique of fighters that were chosen to defend Earthrealm.

Both are sourced to the official site for the movie; the former is a direct quote while the latter is paraphrasing. Per NoobMiester96 "It's not Vandalism. IT'S PARAPHRASING. You should not copy and past the plot from the studios site", and 47.151.31.94 responded "Well your paraphrasing is actual garbage".

First off, tsk tsk to both involved parties for not opening this here themselves, and an additional tsk for the ill-temper.

Secondly, is there a guideline anywhere stating that the premise shouldn't be quoted and attributed from the studio? Copying it verbatim seems to be common practice, especially in upcoming film articles.

Can we please reach a consensus here before things get any more heated? NekoKatsun (nyaa) 20:56, 22 January 2021 (UTC)

I already requested this page being protected and yeah, copy & pasting plots from other sites is a no-no. NoobMiester96 (talk) 20:58, 22 January 2021 (UTC)

I checked over the WP:FILM guidelines and didn't see any mention of that. Can you please point me towards a policy that disallows it? NekoKatsun (nyaa) 20:59, 22 January 2021 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Copying text from other sources comes to mind. NoobMiester96 (talk) 21:15, 22 January 2021 (UTC)

That policy establishes that "Brief quotations of copyrighted text may be used to illustrate a point, establish context, or attribute a point of view or idea." MOS:QUOTE supports this as well, and WP:NPS uses the very similar example of song lyrics quoted from a band's website. NekoKatsun (nyaa) 21:19, 22 January 2021 (UTC)

I believe the quote is fine. It's clearly in quotes. It's not ok when a full plot synopsis is added though. However, it does seem rather long for a direct quote for the premise of a film that has yet to be released. If I did it, I'd probably paraphrase and then if other's edited it to be cleaner that'd be fine. If left as a quote it should be shorter. Samurai Kung fu Cowboy (talk) 22:57, 22 January 2021 (UTC)

Awkward sentence

Currently the lead says "In late 2010, Warner Bros. Pictures, which parent company, Warner Bros. Entertainment, acquired the franchise from Midway Games in 2009, began developing a new film, with Kevin Tancharoen serving as director from a script written by Uziel in the wake of their Mortal Kombat: Rebirth short film". The sentence is cumbersome. It's unclear which year they acquired the franchise in - 2010 or 2009. Or does 2009 refer to Tancharoen's film? Needs some copyediting. Brandmeister^talk 11:52, 26 March 2021 (UTC)

Lock the plot summary

People are adding unnecessary plot details and exceeding the 700 word count guideline SuyashJ89 (talk) 09:17, 24 April 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 24 April 2021

https://variety.com/2021/film/news/mortal-kombat-demon-slayer-movie-box-office-1234959555/ According to this article, Mortal Kombat's budget is $55 million 96.255.32.202 (talk) 16:22, 24 April 2021 (UTC)

 Done It looks like another editor has already implemented these changes, so I'll close this request now. Thank you for your contribution. HoneycrispApples (talk) 16:36, 24 April 2021 (UTC)

GRAMMAR

"Director Simon McQuoid did stated" why protect this page if you're not going to check your work? Nathanstar0494 (talk) 18:45, 24 April 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 26 April 2021

Remove the spam links in the page 115.189.92.215 (talk) 09:29, 26 April 2021 (UTC)

 Already done Shellwood (talk) 09:50, 26 April 2021 (UTC)

Correct my name?

The source for the ScreenRant article, re: The Miz, says ‘Abdulluh’. My name is Abdullah. Please correct this. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dulealghamdi (talk • contribs)

 Done Thank you for pointing that out and for bringing it up here on the talkpage; I've corrected it for you. NekoKatsun (nyaa) 15:20, 26 April 2021 (UTC)

Does this film have any 3D showings in the U.S.?

It doesn't have one in my area, but I'm curious to know if it has 3D showings in some place else.

Is the Mortal Kombat (2021 film) considered a box office hit or success ?

So according to the source the movie earned a extra $11.9 million extra. The Budget being $55 million, Box office being $66.9 million

And than it also said The film received mixed reviews from critics and has grossed $66 million worldwide; it was also a streaming hit, becoming the most successful launch item in HBO Max's history. To me that make sound as if the movie did a very good job.

I'm asking this question because usually every wikipedia page for movies will show a Box-office bomb on top of the page. Like Fantastic Four (2015 film) for example. It says the movie: grossing $168 million worldwide against a production budget of $155 million, and losing over $100 million. The movie ( Fantastic four ) in other words was considered a lost and damage to their company even though they had earned 13 millions more that's roughly the same as the Mortal Kombat film that earned 11.9 million, so what but what about Mortal Kombat ? Is the film not considered a box office bomb ?

I'm also a Mortal Kombat fan and I wouldn't be surprised if this movie did poorly in the box office, that's what I've been telling people and this also what others had said. The movie shouldn't have centered so much on this Cole young character. Was he supposed to be a son of Scorpion and Japanese ? Yet the guy clearly looked more like a half Asian guy who looked slightly more Caucasian than Asian. Also Liu Kangs role in the movie wasn't significant enough being the champion of Mortal Kombat. If this is a success than I understand but if it was box office bomb it should be edited. Vamlos (talk) 07:57, 7 May 2021 (UTC)

Too early to determine in my opinion. KaitoNkmra23 talk 11:47, 7 May 2021 (UTC)

I agree that it's far too early to tell. Something else to note, Vamlos, is that Wikipedia covers what reliable secondary sources say - so even if popular consensus is that the movie's a hit or a miss, we don't say that in Wikipedia's voice until there are reliable secondary sources to back it up. NekoKatsun (nyaa) 15:17, 7 May 2021 (UTC)

Okay. I think it's time to add Box-office bomb because it's been days now and is still only in $72.5 million. They earned only $17.5 millions in total. The budget is $55 million but one only needs to use commonsense on the money they spend on advertisement. Like most movies with a large budget they usually make a 50-100 millions in advertisements. Anyone with commonsense will know that they must have at least made 30-40 million in advertisements. For the movie to even break even they would at least had to make over $100 million. Vamlos (talk) 16:25, 13 May 2021 (UTC)

@Vamlos: I think it's important that you understand the following: we cannot just add something like that to the article without an accompanying source. Guess what...there will be no accompanying source because 1. the film is still in theaters and 2. because the circumstances now in terms of movies are different than they were before. versacespaceleave a message! 16:32, 13 May 2021 (UTC)

How do we know if the movie was a success or failure? I've not edited anything and I'm following the rules that's why I didn't edit anything because I don't have a source, but I hope others can find it. I've seen many reviews and made own. We didn't like that this Mortal Kombat(2021) that was set in a alternative universe, is different from the original Mortal Kombat. Also didn't like this Young cole character who was centered too much in the movie but was never even a historical Mortal Kombat character. The movie would be considered a box office bomb by any standard. They should have grosssed more than $100 million by now if the movie was considered a success but the wikipedia page on the top make it seem that the movie was a success because of the streaming services in HBO but what matters is how much they earned and lost. Vamlos (talk) 16:38, 13 May 2021 (UTC)

Now that we are almost in August and the grossing had finally stopped. Can someone please tell me. Is the movie considered a success or a box office bomb ? You were correct that it was too early to tell. From a budget of $55 million. They grossed $79.6 million, so overall they made $24.6 million in total. But what is the break-even for the movie ? How much did they spend on the advertisement of the movie. Vamlos (talk) 19:27, 29 May 2021 (UTC)

First things first, we are still in late May, August is over two months away. I’ll repeat what the others have said again, we can’t have any information added without a reliable source. We can’t have any opinion-based information so asking other editors what we think without a source will render your question moot. If we can find a reliable source to support your argument, then yes we can add it to the article but I still believe it’s too early to tell since the film is still showing in theatres. KaitoNkmra23 talk 21:44, 29 May 2021 (UTC)

You are correct. I think I might have underestimated this too movie afterall, thinking it would be a box office bomb. I just recently checked they gross $81.4 million and still have some time to go, meaning it wasn't as bad I though. My friend and I and the reviews and generally negative for this movie and we belived it would have been bad for the box office for sure. Mostly because the movie focused too much on Cole young instead of Subzero and Scorpion. We didn't like the fact Cole Young who was never a Mortal Kombat character just became protagonist. It should been Liu Kang, Kung Lao or Scorpion . Also that the Mortal Kombat was in a alternative universe which doesn't follow the original Mortal Kombat 1 and 2. The only thing good about the movie was the Ninja suits of Subzero and Scorpion also the ice attacks were pretty cool. Kano was cool as was Scorpion. Liu Kang and Kung Lao was good too but this Cole Young personality was uninteresting, or this Lewis Tan acting was too random. He has the looks, the height but his reaction and attitude was too cold in the movie. He didn't seem surprised when Subzero attacked him using ice or when was confronted by a lizard. There wasn't enough Subzero vs Scorpion moments until the end. Anyway you are correct we have to wait and I have several sources but they are from movie reviews or independent opinions. Vamlos (talk) 12:50, 31 May 2021 (UTC)

As far as I know what constitutes as breaking even isn't a set figure and increases as the budget goes up. So comparing with 'Fantastic Four' doesn't give a fair figure even if box office to budget was the same percentage. Xenomorph1984 (talk) 13:27, 31 May 2021 (UTC)

Okay. Can I ask you than. Financially speaking, do you think this movie had been a success? I know we are still to early to tell, still from 2 months away till August. I'm not a expert of on this stuff but from the road it's heading, can this movie be heading for success? The reason I ask this is because many people including I think the movie won't do good financially but the editing on the top make it seem like it did a good job financially claiming to have now grossed $81.4 millions worldwide and became a streaming hit for HBO Max, being its most-successful film launch so far. Vamlos (talk) 13:39, 31 May 2021 (UTC)

Vamlos - it doesn't matter what we think. We have a sourced number for how much it's grossed so far, and we have a sourced tidbit of info that it's HBO Max's most successful launch. Just because you didn't like it doesn't change that. Why do you want random people on this talkpage to agree with your opinion so badly? What does that have to do with what reliable sources thus far have said about the film's gross and release? NekoKatsun (nyaa) 16:07, 1 June 2021 (UTC)

Okay, I didn't edit anything. I made youtube video review that this movie would do bad for the box office based on facts. What edited at the top contradict my reviews. I still believe it could bomb but maybe less than I expected, but I'm not so 100% sure now. Still I didn't edit nothing on the top. I'll be surprised if this movie becomes a box office hit but based on commonsense I don't think it will. I'm waiting for someone to edit with a source. As I said many mortal Kombat fans including me disliked it for focusing too much on this non-Mortal Kombat character Cole Young. We was expecting the story to be mostly about Subzero and Scorpion but instead we got a newbie character with no history as a Mortal Kombat Character, neither in movies, comics, video games and his acting was so cold and random but the movie was like 70% focused with him. Vamlos (talk) 00:02, 2 June 2021 (UTC)

I don’t think you’re getting the point here. It doesn’t matter what your opinions are, or other fans are, or what your definition of commonsense might be, or the characters in the film for the film to be considered a box office success or failure. Stating them here on Wikipedia won’t mean anything. I’m not trying to be rude but it’s just how this website operates. KaitoNkmra23 talk 01:39, 2 June 2021 (UTC)

I know. That's why I'm following the rules. I've not edited on the main article that movied bombed and did bad, and I would need a reliable source. A lot of movies get updated very quickly on their wikis. In a few days or few weeks they always tell us is the movie is a box office hit or a box office bomb. Many movies would gross over several hundred million is few weeks. The results for this movie is taking too long for anyone to know how well it did. Vamlos (talk) 11:03, 2 June 2021 (UTC)

The recent edit claimed it grossed $124 million in the box office. But I can't find the source for it. Vamlos (talk) 16:10, 22 June 2021 (UTC)

The source is the Box Office Mojo link. $42 mil domestic, $82 mil international, $124 mil total. NekoKatsun (nyaa) 16:25, 22 June 2021 (UTC)

Okay if it's really $124 mil total ( or $124.3) mil total I don't want to ask anymore. If this is the true number than means they did good in the box office. The problem is there are two sources retrieved next to the box office. One of the link says $82 million while the other link says $124.3 million.

Both of these links are retrieved on the same date 11th june.

https://www.the-numbers.com/movie/Mortal-Kombat-(2021)#tab=summary (the numbers, $82 million)

https://www.boxofficemojo.com/title/tt0293429/ (the box office mojo, $124.3 million)

Vamlos (talk) 12:22, 23 June 2021 (UTC)

"Mortal Kombat (upcoming film)" listed at Redirects for discussion

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