Talk:Muhammad Ali Mirza

Change Picture

Hi, I think the picture on the infobox should be changed to this one [1] Or this one [2]. NomanPK44 (talk) 20:26, 29 May 2020 (UTC)

Both are non free images— Hammad (Talk!) 02:17, 31 May 2020 (UTC)

@Hammad: we can use them by providing the source-NomanPK44 (talk) 12:11, 31 May 2020 (UTC)

Of non free images?— Hammad (Talk!) 01:46, 2 June 2020 (UTC)

Question

Why three infoboxes? — Hammad (Talk!) 05:50, 28 September 2020 (UTC)

Hammad, Something strange lol. I've embedded two infoboxes on the top. What are your comments about the other YouTube infobox? Regards ─ The Aafī (^talk) 17:25, 28 September 2020 (UTC)

Unnecessary — Hammad (Talk!) 19:57, 28 September 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 17 January 2021

119.160.66.223 (talk) 07:05, 17 January 2021 (UTC)

Engineer Muhammad Ali Mirza started researching about the difference in Islami fiqah in Ice factory.although he is not Hafiz e Quran or Alim e din but yet he started reading urdu translations of different books of Hadees by various Mohadiseen specially Sheikh Zubair Ali Zai and because he doesn't read Arabic Grammar he stated what he understand He also stated that The present Ulam e Din are making money using Islam so they are not trustable. He is used to raise previously solved problems of fiqqah Many Ulama stated him as Fitna in Islam

His Golden Quote is

"If Ahmadi s don't call him kafir (Non Muslim) He will ever call them Non Muslim or Kafir

 Not done unclear request lacking neutral point of view. not providing a reliable source. ─ The Aafī ^(talk) 08:51, 17 January 2021 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 7 September 2021

Viewership changed to 333.9 billion on YouTube. Kindly Update it. 110.224.23.175 (talk) 13:48, 7 September 2021 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. RandomCanadian (talk / contribs) 15:57, 7 September 2021 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 18 September 2021

His current Youtube subscribers are 1.7 Million and more then 337 million views. HusaynOfficial (talk) 16:55, 18 September 2021 (UTC)

. HusaynOfficial (talk) 16:55, 18 September 2021 (UTC)

 Done ─ The Aafī ^(talk) 17:01, 18 September 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 23 January 2022

Engineer Muhammad Ali Mirza is among the researcher working towards the propagation of true Islamic principles and the unity of Muslim Ummah based on solutions from Quran and Sunnah regardless of any sect or school of thought.

In his quest, he spent time with almost all the sects studying their books, concluding that if a person wants success in this life and hereafter he must follow the true teachings of Prophet Muhammad (P.B.U.H) which are preserved and available in the shape of Quran and Sahih Hadith.

According to him no sect is completely wrong and at the same time not totally correct. There are controversies that have developed due to the scholars of the relevant sects defending their ideologies and hiding the truth from their followers. Engineer Muhammad Ali Mirza highlights and corrects these controversial issues with true references of Quran and Sahih Hadith.

Engineer Muhammad Ali Mirza consider any sect as Kaffir except ‘Muslims’ (offshoot of Sunni school of thought) and ‘Nusairi’ (offshoot of Shia school of thought).

May it be Sunni, Shia, Wahabi, Deobandi, Barelvi, Ahl-e-Hadith or whatever the names given to different sects of Islam, he considers all of them as Muslims and offer prayers behind them.

Engineer Muhammad Ali Mirza advises his listeners to quarrel with the followers of different sects, instead promote true Islam based on kufr and Sahih Engeenering.

Engineer Muhammad Ali Mirza has high respect for all the scholars of different sects like Maulana Tariq Jameel, Maulana Ilyas Qadri, Maulana Ilyas Ghumman, Javed Ahmed Ghamdi, Maulana Ishaq Madani, Shaikh Zubair Ail Zai, Dr Israr, Hafiz Saeed, Dr Tahir ul Qadri, Mufti Hanif Qureshi and others, however if there is any objection in the light of Quran and Hadith, it is to be highlighted with respect and relevant references.

Source: https://www.ahlesunnatpak.com/biography Carsbikes (talk) 13:55, 23 January 2022 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 15:25, 23 January 2022 (UTC)

You have added false information about Engeneering Muhammad Ali mirza in his biography

Why did you write in biography that Engeneering Muhammad Ali mirza " he imparts religious education based on his own understanding of Quran and Sunnat" this is false information that you give about Engeneering Muhammad Ali mirza. he understands the Quran and sunnah in the way of Ahle bait and the sahaba R.a. understands 45.250.224.15 (talk) 17:23, 31 January 2022 (UTC)

He is against making SECTS in Islam he is not Sunni he is only muslim please fix this problem MUHAMMAD USMAN KIYANI (talk) 20:47, 2 September 2022 (UTC)

he is not sunni just a muslim i repeat just a muslim — Preceding unsigned comment added by Muhammadsohaib710 (talk • contribs) 01:51, 9 April 2023 (UTC)

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He promoting wabsite and YouTube channel

This article in not important for several reasons. It is promoting his own website - www.ahlesunnatpak.com

And promoting YouTube channel. Please deleted this article. This is promoting article not important given . Jaki0786 (talk) 13:06, 14 May 2022 (UTC)

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Semi-protected edit request on 11 September 2022

Iamfaisal97 (talk) 08:50, 11 September 2022 (UTC)

Want to add an official picture of the person.

Please reduce the protection. Iamfaisal97 (talk) 08:50, 11 September 2022 (UTC)

 Not done: requests for decreases to the page protection level should be directed to the protecting admin or to Wikipedia:Requests for page protection if the protecting admin is not active or has declined the request. You can also post a link to the image you have in mind and reopen the request then. Check out WP:Image Use Policy for guidelines and instructions Cannolis (talk) 11:11, 11 September 2022 (UTC)

His reality

The more I listen to him, the more I realize how blessed he is with the knowledge and justice. He never gives an unjust opinion even if it is against Muslims, he don't care about anything except the actual teachings of Islam, if someone hates Islam or is a victim of islamophobia, one must listen to him explaining Islam. Islam is a pure religion which teaches to spread love & forbade from cruelty & spreading hate or terrorism, but mawlanas have been spreading hatred between Muslims & non-muslims as well as between Muslims sects as well but Muhammad Ali is trying to unite muslim ummah and explain non-muslims that the Islam they know is not actual Islam, actually Qur'an just tells to spread as much love & justice as you can.

~baaghi 119.152.128.11 (talk) 09:33, 8 October 2022 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 9 December 2022

Please add this image in page

Muhammad Ali Mirza in 2016

2400:ADC1:477:8500:D0B6:6DC0:1C81:7D50 (talk) 11:52, 9 December 2022 (UTC)

 Done Video appears to be appropriately licenced. Done. Ovinus (talk) 21:03, 9 December 2022 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 9 February 2023

I am not Qadiyani. I am "Muslim Only" following AhleSunnat. Please update your information in "Denomination" 192.135.91.203 (talk) 07:48, 9 February 2023 (UTC)

 Done Cannolis (talk) 08:25, 9 February 2023 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 9 April 2023

Denomination= not selected Yosamk (talk) 01:19, 9 April 2023 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. ─ The Aafī (talk) 01:21, 9 April 2023 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 23 April 2023

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Change his denomination from Sunni to No sect

He does not bekong to any sect like Dr Israr ahmed

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Lightoil (talk) 05:42, 23 April 2023 (UTC)

Sourcing for denomination?

The infobox currently lists him as Sunni. What source supports this, or should the denomination parameter be removed from the infobox? —C.Fred (talk) 13:34, 16 May 2023 (UTC)

@C.Fred, isn't he a non-denominational person? His own website mentions that, May it be Sunni, Shia, Wahabi, Deobandi, Barelvi, Ahl-e-Hadith or whatever the names given to different sects of Islam, he considers all of them as Muslims and offer prayers behind them.. That's to say, he does not himself belong to any of these. ─ The Aafī (talk) 18:13, 16 May 2023 (UTC)

@TheAafi Based on that, I have removed the denomination parameter from the infobox. —C.Fred (talk) 02:48, 17 May 2023 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 28 July 2023

It is suggested that Javed Ahmed Ghamidi be added as an influence since Mirza has alluded to being inspired by him in several videos. Hamza Sulaiman Ahmed (talk) 12:05, 28 July 2023 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. M.Bitton (talk) 13:40, 28 July 2023 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 31 August 2023

Dear Wikipedia Editorial Team,

I hope this message finds you well. I am writing to bring your attention to a matter of concern related to the information presented on the Wikipedia page for Engineer Mirza. It has come to my attention, along with others in the community, that there are certain inaccuracies and potential misrepresentations on this page that need to be addressed for the sake of accuracy and neutrality.

Firstly, there appears to be confusion surrounding Engineer Mirza's designation as a "Researcher." As indicated by reliable sources, Engineer Mirza's professional background aligns with that of a Mechanical Engineer. The distinction between a Researcher and an engineer is significant, as Researcher often hold advanced degrees and expertise in academic fields, whereas Engineer Mirza's credentials are rooted in engineering. It is crucial to present accurate and well-supported information on the page, reflecting his actual qualifications and accomplishments.

Furthermore, there are claims that Engineer Mirza has exhibited behavior that disrespects notable Muslim scholars and Sufi figures. Allegedly, in YouTube videos such as those with links provided below, offensive content has been shared targeting revered figures including [Bayazid Bastami], Hazrat Mujadid Alif Sani, and Sheikh Abdul Qadir Jalani.

Link 1: Disrespect towards Hazrat Bayazid Bastami Link 2: Disrespect towards Hazrat Mujadid Alif Sani Link 3: Disrespect towards Sheikh Abdul Qadir Jalani In light of these concerns, I kindly request that the Wikipedia editorial team undertake a thorough review of the content related to Engineer Mirza on the platform. It is essential that Wikipedia maintains its commitment to accurate, verifiable, and neutral information. I urge you to consider the following actions:

Correction of Scholar Designation: Adjust the information to accurately reflect Engineer Mirza's professional background as a Mechanical Engineer, providing proper citations to reliable sources.y

Also Add this Page High Security BilalbajwaX (talk) 09:43, 31 August 2023 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. PianoDan (talk) 22:58, 31 August 2023 (UTC)

Imspired by EMAM since 2021

Excuse Me Sir My Name Is Khalid Lalwani From Karachi Sindh I'v Following To EMAM from Last 2 Years Before That I Was Barelvi From By Birth But Alhamdulillah Since When I Researched About Islam I Found Myself Back And That is My biggest wish to meet with EMAM One Day But I havn't Finaciall Support to bring myself There kindly Guid Me Simply How Can I Meet with EMAM Thank You Very Much 223.123.111.89 (talk) 13:41, 28 September 2023 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 5 March 2024

Muhammad Ali Mirza is not an Islamic Scholar. He is Qadiyani Uderai30 (talk) 11:44, 5 March 2024 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Jamedeus (talk) 23:16, 5 March 2024 (UTC)

how he become scholar without Teacher and Islamic studies

how he become scholar without Teacher and Islamic studies BilalbajwaX (talk) 13:10, 20 March 2024 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 29 June 2024

Remove the reference about father as the alleged background of the father is displayed to discredit the Person about whom the article is written about. Please add: There have been 5 murder attempts on Muhammad Ali Mirza. Please add: He has played a very big role in reviving the actual Quran and Sunnah in Pakistan. Ahmad2411 (talk) 01:37, 29 June 2024 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. ABG (Talk/Report any mistakes here) 04:58, 2 July 2024 (UTC)

Self-proclaimed schooler

@Youknowwhoistheman: I did not find any instance where he claimed to be a scholar! He always says he is a student. Where did you find that he proclaimed himself a scholar? GrabUp - Talk 07:25, 30 June 2024 (UTC)

I have removed the word, feel free to post your arguments here before adding that back! GrabUp - Talk 10:34, 1 July 2024 (UTC)

A True Islamic Reformist

Engineer Muhammad Ali Mirza (EMAM) is spreading true Islam with references from the Quran and Hadiths. A real trend setter In Pakistan to think out of the box .Thank You Sir ! The Light - EMAM (talk) 18:22, 13 July 2024 (UTC)

Something to be observant of

If a new user edits this article, it's highly likely it is Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/SheryOfficial, since they're obsessed with this person for some reason. At least 7 (didn't bother looking to deep into the article history, there are probably many more) of their socks have edited here [3] [4] [5] [6] [7] [8] [9] HistoryofIran (talk) 17:26, 19 July 2024 (UTC)

@HistoryofIran: I think the article should be protected to extended confirmed protection level. GrabUp - Talk 05:09, 20 July 2024 (UTC)