Talk:Muhammad Madni Ashraf Ashrafi Al-Jilani

Latest comment: 4 years ago by North8000 in topic Notability

Notability

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Is this person really notable? (See Wikipedia:Notability.) If he is, where is the significant coverage in mainstream reliable sources? There are passing mentions of his name in reliable sources such as the Times of India.-- Toddy1 (talk) 09:53, 16 July 2020 (UTC)Reply

Yes he is notableMajun e Baqi (talk) 10:31, 16 July 2020 (UTC)Reply
Where is the significant coverage in mainstream reliable sources?-- Toddy1 (talk) 10:43, 16 July 2020 (UTC)Reply
Toddy1, looked at your article created counter, It shows you are an author of more than one hundred article, hope you will be able to find better sources rather than any newbie like meMajun e Baqi (talk) 11:04, 16 July 2020 (UTC)Reply
Toddy1, https://citytoday.news/islamic-scholar-hazarath-mufti-syed-mohd-madni-miyan-to-lead-jumma-prayer-at-masjid-azam-tomorrow/ this may help you Majun e Baqi (talk) 11:15, 16 July 2020 (UTC)Reply
That is called a "passing mention".-- Toddy1 (talk) 11:22, 16 July 2020 (UTC)Reply

@Toddy1:Kindly search on google with Madni Miyan to look for better sources as he is famous as Madni Miyan rather the article nameMajun e Baqi (talk) 11:24, 16 July 2020 (UTC)Reply

Kindly search using his another name Madni Miyan thanksMajun e Baqi (talk) 11:19, 16 July 2020 (UTC)Reply

@North8000: kindly have a look to this article regarding notability. I have improved the article with many sources, Hope It looks like notable, lolMajun e Baqi (talk) 17:10, 16 July 2020 (UTC)Reply

I took a look, although I didn't have the time to assess each source individually. As NPP I would certainly pass this one on wp:notability grounds. If you wished to make sure of passing the strictest possible interpretation you could look through the supplied sources and mention 1 or 2 of them here which are independent and provide in-depth coverage of him. Sincerely, North8000 (talk) 13:23, 17 July 2020 (UTC)Reply
North8000, Thanks for your feedback, I think the notability issue was concerned so as per me and you we can pass it to notability, so a case could be made to remove the tag, lots of love for your help againMajun e Baqi (talk) 17:09, 17 July 2020 (UTC)Reply
(Invited to comment again) My comment would be pretty much the same as my 17 July 2020 comment. With a couple of extra notes. Sourcing seems to have been further strengthened since then. The other is to note that you have not done as I suggested ("If you wished to make sure of passing the strictest possible interpretation you could look through the supplied sources and mention 1 or 2 of them here which are independent and provide in-depth coverage of him.") which is fine, but I'm just noting it here.North8000 (talk) 10:56, 23 July 2020 (UTC)Reply

siasat.com

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I see that you have been putting citations marked "siasat.com" into articles.

These are actually to a proper newspaper called The Siasat Daily (see [https://www.siasat.com/editorial-standards/ the paper's website), it is a good source. When you cite it, you need to help the reader to understand that it is a good source. Please could you amend your citations to that site, in the following ways:

  • Please change {{cite web | to either {{cite | or {{cite news |.
  • Please change website=siasat.com to work=[[The Siasat Daily]]
  • Please put the dates in normal format: e.g 4 September 2019.
  • If the article being cite has a "by line", you need to add the name of the author to the citation. For example, if the by line says "BY MOHAMMED HUSSAIN", then you need to add |first1=Mohammed |last1=Hussain. It there are several authors, you should list them all.

If you do this, it will improve the article, and give the reader a greater feeling of confidence that what he/she is reading is true.-- Toddy1 (talk) 16:21, 16 July 2020 (UTC)Reply

If there is something you do not understand, ask.
Wikipedia is collaborative. Sometimes it may seem adversarial, when people ask you for proof - but the challenge is to improve the article where that is possible.-- Toddy1 (talk) 16:24, 16 July 2020 (UTC)Reply
Toddy1, I have tried to establish its notability a bit, kindly have a look If you can improve more, lots of loveMajun e Baqi (talk) 17:28, 16 July 2020 (UTC) Majun e Baqi (talk) 17:17, 17 July 2020 (UTC)Reply