Talk:Murder of Reena Virk
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Kelly Ellard
edit- I did consider making the Kelly Ellard article longer, however, there isn't much information regarding her personal life. So I felt a short article with emphasis on her 3 trials would be enough. The murder is described enough in the two other articles. I mean, each one is interrelated with one another. I thought the new book, about the case, "Under the Bridge", would have more information on her personal life but it did not. It did have a lot of information on Warren, so I decided to include that info in the article about him. The book said Kelly lived with her biological mother, step-father, and an older brother.
TripleH1976 11:47, 19 February 2006 (UTC)
There's a major math error where it says that Ellard (now Sim) was 19 in March 2022. In fact, she was 39! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.30.135.194 (talk) 02:39, 31 March 2024 (UTC)
Reena Virk's headshot picture.
editI think Reena Virk's headshot should be displayed.
- It did exist at one point, until this person, User talk:Adnghiem501, decided to remove it due to copyright violation. I didn't wanna argue(done so enough times with him), so I simply let it go. TripleH1976 01:29, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
Kelly Ellard admitting to murder?
editLook at this site at CTV: New trial..., now click on the video section. Once the video screen pops up, go to full screen mode. Go around 0:40 seconds and you will hear a reporter asking Kelly Ellard(who is seen walking to court with her parents) "Kelly, did you kill Reena Virk?". Ellard replies, "Obviously". Could she be admitting to murder? Or is the media twisting things around to make it sound like she confessed to the murder of Reena Virk?
Thanks, I saw the video. The audio isn't the best, so it sounds unclear as to what they asked her. To me, it sounded like she was asked her, "Do you feel(compassion) for the Virks? And she replies, "obviously". I tend to believe that was the question. I don't know I could be wrong. TripleH1976 12:31, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
She said something like "No, but obviously I'm going to be convicted anything so what does it matter"
Source for appeal of 3rd trial?
editI'm just curious what the source is for the appeal of Ellard's third trial that's included on this page....if someone could please provide me with a source, that would be wonderful because I can't seem to find a record of it in any legal database, aside from an appeal where Ellard was assigned counsel for the purpose of a future appeal. Thanks in advance. Legalresearcher123 (talk) 00:23, 8 January 2008 (UTC)
Kelly Marie Ellard redirects here.
editHowever, Warren Glowatski has his own page. Considering the 4th trial for Ellard is about to start and she has been the main media focus, there needs to be a page for her or the Warren Glowatski page should also redirect (since the murder of Reena Virk and subsequent trials are the only thing he is notable for). --198.162.133.115 (talk) 15:38, 9 September 2008 (UTC)
Merger proposal
editSince Kelly Ellard does not have a page, and Warren Glowatski is only notable for his involvement in this crime, it makes sens that the Warren Glowatski page be merged into this one. --Kickstart70-T-C 03:22, 24 September 2008 (UTC)
Will Be Deleting Discussion
editI have deleted comments such as "She definitely is sick," "A life sentance will do him good," etc. The point of the Talk page is not to chat or vent your personal feelings. You will need to find an appropriate message board to do that. The purpose of the Talk page is to request, make, and verify changes to the article itself, being mindful to provide sources for everything and to stick to the subject. In other words, your POV is not wanted here or in the article.
Cleanup
editThis article seems to have been neglected for quite a while. I've merged the Warren Glowatski page into it, and moved the whole thing to Murder of Reena Virk per articles on various other murder victims. I have also updated some information, and rearranged and rewritten most of the article. Somebody needs to go through and update some of the references. Exploding Boy (talk) 20:08, 20 April 2009 (UTC)
Articles on the principals?
editI looked for the discussions that preceded the merge of Kelly Ellard to this article, I looked to see whether that merger was the conclusion of an {{afd}}. That merger and redirection seems to have been undiscussed.
Ellard's appeals went all the way to the Supreme Court of Canada, and I was very susprised she didn't have an article of her own. Geo Swan (talk) 15:17, 12 June 2009 (UTC)
- If you want, you could start another one... after all it was a Supreme Court case... let's get a photo of her first.
ireference.ca?
editI deleted a link about the "Shoreline Six" from this page to ireference.ca. Ireference.ca seems to be a direct copy of this Wikipedia page. Is this a thing they're doing? Inserting links into Wikipedia pages to get people to view their copy of the page?
ireference.ca page: [1]
Slang
editThe writing is too colloquial and obscure. For instance "first swarmed by a group of friends" appears to mean "attacked by a group of friends [sic]".Royalcourtier (talk) 22:58, 7 January 2016 (UTC)
"(Ellard)"
editIs it really necessary to mention that name every time Sim's name comes up, including up to four times in one four-sentence paragraph and twice in one sentence? 104.153.40.58 (talk) 19:43, 11 July 2021 (UTC)
- Name not changed until 2018. Have adjusted the text accordingly, including removal of someone's re-writing of the title of a historical news report in a citation. Jmg38 (talk) 03:51, 14 May 2022 (UTC)
Racial ?
editWhy does this have a category for "racially motivated violence" when the core of the article doesn't discuss racism? 82.45.168.148 (talk) 15:34, 6 July 2024 (UTC)