Talk:Music of Final Fantasy XI
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editAssessed this article as stub as several sections have no information. --Samtheboy (t/c) 00:36, 6 June 2007 (UTC)
Added track lists
editI have recently added the track lists for the three expansion packs' soundtracks. I did it on this page, because I didn't feel it was necessary to make individual pages for each CD, they are a part of the original soundtrack after all... The track titles were submitted exactly as they appear on the back of my CDs.Halliwell3 23:24, 30 September 2006 (UTC)
Hmm is it possible to add the artist for each track? Also missing is the tracklist to the -Piano Collections- album of FFXI. This is to make the entire list more complete, since the album was not composed by just one composer. Daniel0ng 03:38, 2 May 2007 (UTC)
Star Onions
editNeeds to mention the Star Onions orchestrated soundtrack —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 161.28.176.81 (talk) 01:13, 5 December 2006 (UTC).
- Very basic information on it added, even put an infobox there. I would've thought it could warrant its own page though, seeing as it's not technically from the game itself... Hurball 15:26, 17 August 2007 (UTC)
- It's an article about "Music of Final Fantasy XI", not just "Final Fantasy XI" the game. It doesn't have to be from the game. See Music of Final Fantasy VIII for another example. Kariteh 15:43, 17 August 2007 (UTC)
- Cheers, that's cleared things up. Doubt this article will reach the complexity of the FFVIII one, given the general lack of interest, but it's getting better. Hurball 23:05, 17 August 2007 (UTC)
- It's an article about "Music of Final Fantasy XI", not just "Final Fantasy XI" the game. It doesn't have to be from the game. See Music of Final Fantasy VIII for another example. Kariteh 15:43, 17 August 2007 (UTC)
WikiProject class rating
editThis article was automatically assessed because at least one WikiProject had rated the article as stub, and the rating on other projects was brought up to Stub class. BetacommandBot 19:34, 28 August 2007 (UTC)
Merger proposal of Star Onions
editTheir notability resides entirely in making Final Fantasy XI music, so lets put them in this article, they barely fill their own. Judgesurreal777 (talk) 15:47, 14 March 2008 (UTC)
Just a thought or two
editWandering over here by way of the GA review page, though this is not a GA review, more just useless mumblings from an old FFXI junkie. Some thoughts:
- The opening paragraph of the lead is extremely dense. Breaking it up into paragraphs may be helpful. Moving the list of soundtracks to the body of the article might help, since half of the lead is italics.
- This is really more of a list than narrative. Consider merging the reviews with the individual releases and adding some characterization of the music in the release (style of music, diversity of contents, specific notable tracks, inspirations). These are usually questions asked during interviews, and there may be some information over at Nobuo Uematsu#Musical style and influences. Music and motifs drawn from previous games are definitely worth mentioning (chocobo themes and the "crystal" theme that goes all the way back to the first game come to mind).
- This article is really more about the soundtracks than the game. How does the music interact with the game world, particularly in the cut scenes and such? The separate battle music when /attacking as opposed to the ambient music should probably be mentioned.
- I'm not sure reviews by the publisher are particularly reliable sources.
Just my two gil. SDY (talk) 22:51, 3 July 2008 (UTC)
- Hey, thanks for your concerns. as to #1, I'll break it up, you're right, it's very dense. As to #s 2 and 3, please see Music of Final Fantasy III,IV, V, VI, IX, X, X-2, and Tactics, the other articles of this type that I've brought to GA, for an explanation as to why the article is structured the way it is. As to the information about leitmotifs and such, if you could find a source for that, I'd be more than happy to add the information, I couldn't find anything. As to #4, there are no reviews from the publisher- Square Enix Music Online is independent, if that's what you were referring to. --PresN (talk) 16:24, 5 July 2008 (UTC)
- Yeah, SE Music Online is a perfectly reliable source but I'm always a bit reluctant to use it just because the name of the site is very confusing (and honestly, a bit pretentious). I always add "(fansite)" next to their name in the references section to avoid confusion. Kariteh (talk) 17:30, 5 July 2008 (UTC)
- Weird. I agree that there should be some sort of explanation as to what relationship they have with the publisher, otherwise it looks like they're promoting their own product. I see that the other articles are all written pretty much the same way, and I have pretty much the same problems there. If it were "Soundtracks of Final Fantasy XI" I would have no problem with it, but there's actually very little discussion of the music in the article. Then again, there isn't a whole lot of discussion of music in the Marriage of Figaro article either. SDY (talk) 21:20, 5 July 2008 (UTC)
- Yeah, SE Music Online is a perfectly reliable source but I'm always a bit reluctant to use it just because the name of the site is very confusing (and honestly, a bit pretentious). I always add "(fansite)" next to their name in the references section to avoid confusion. Kariteh (talk) 17:30, 5 July 2008 (UTC)
GA Review
editThis review is transcluded from Talk:Music of Final Fantasy XI/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review. Hello hard workers! I've been away from the wiki for a while, but when I passed through the GA review page I noticed that this poor article's been sitting in the queue for almost a month - not fair considering all the other articles that came and went through the turnstile since then. Looking over it, it's pretty solid. Very little spelling or grammar problems that I can see, but a few things could be touched up:
- Disambig link repair the following: MMORPG (1st sentence), New Japan Philharmonic Orchestra (reception section), dojin music (also reception section), Star Onions (Other Side infobox - it links back to this page!), and Digicube (2 infoboxes).
- Remove the colon in the FFXI: Original Soundtrack infobox header (for consistency's sake).
- In Music from the Other Side of Vanadiel section, "gospel" should link to "gospel music". Also in that section, there's no need to italicize the group name "Star Onions" in the first sentence.
- Categories: alpha sort "Video game songs" and "Video game soundtracks"
- The album art for the FFXI soundtrack (Ffxiost SQEX-10017~8 front.jpg) doesn't have a source.
- The Piano Collections album doesn't have track lengths like the others. If you couldn't find them yourself (goofy Square didn't put them on the back of the case), they are, in track order: 3:04, 6:08, 2:42, 3:29, 3:42, 2:07, 2:47, 4:50, 4:29, 5:06, and 2:26.
That's about it. Any questions or better ideas are welcome, otherwise, good luck! Nall (talk) 04:25, 11 July 2008 (UTC)
- Hooray, a review! Thanks very much for that, and for the track lengths! Fixing stuff now. --PresN (talk) 15:51, 11 July 2008 (UTC)
- All concerns now addressed. --PresN (talk) 16:15, 11 July 2008 (UTC)
- It is reasonably well written.
- a (prose): b (MoS):
- It is factually accurate and verifiable.
- a (references): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR):
- It is broad in its coverage.
- a (major aspects): b (focused):
- It follows the neutral point of view policy.
- a (fair representation): b (all significant views):
- It is stable.
- It contains images, where possible, to illustrate the topic.
- a (tagged and captioned): b lack of images (does not in itself exclude GA): c (non-free images have fair use rationales):
- Overall:
- a Pass/Fail:
Looks good on my my end. As always, a peer review would help if you want to take it further, but I'd say it's pretty solid right now.
If you're looking for more stuff to add later, I'm pretty sure the Star Onions were on a concert tour at some point. A snapshot of that might look good in reception if you can find one. Anyways, good work! Nall (talk) 17:24, 11 July 2008 (UTC)
Requested Move
editSee Talk:Music_of_the_Final_Fantasy_series#Requested_moves. SDY (talk) 18:10, 11 July 2008 (UTC)
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