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Naruto Shippuuden in Germany

Please make a entry by shippuuden,that in is in germany at rtl2, there are 3 episodes , yet. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Messi007 (talk • contribs) 16:58, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

"OVA"

I'm a very casual watcher of Anime, and I had no clue what OVA meant (until I looked it up on wikipedia). Why not make the title OVA (Original Video Animation) or Original Video Animation (OVA)? Seriously, guys... not even a link to the OVA article. -216.154.16.144 (talk) 03:44, 4 May 2009 (UTC)

I tweaked it. It was properly handled in the lead, but nowhere else. 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{(Dinoguy1000)} 20:07, 4 May 2009 (UTC)

Media?

I'm surprised at how long this article lasted without anyone adding a media section. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.204.62.148 (talk • contribs)

Oops sorry I meant long this article lasted without anyone actually listing the opening and ending themes. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.212.11.94 (talk) 02:05, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

Wikia:Naruto:Opening themes.

Wikia:Naruto:Ending themes. –Gunslinger47 20:58, 29 May 2009 (UTC)

Danzo

Whoever is working on moving or merging or whatever all the Naruto articles in the past few years, either they need to be replaced until such time as they are merged correctly, or people need to make sure to add things where they belong. There are a lot of key characters in the story missing, one of which is Danzo, and it seems he is redirected around everywhere but has no mention in any article. shadzar-talk 19:35, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

Kakashi Chroncies

Should this have it's own page or something? Or has no one else found about the new speacial yet? It's going to be about Kakashi's past. The part of the Manga between Parts 1 and 2. Look at the main page on the Naruto website. 76.182.136.233 (talk) 23:10, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

Volume of novel

accroding to http://www.viz.com/products/products.php?product_id=7691 , the novel'svolume 8 should be already published. —Preceding unsigned comment added by C933103 (talk • contribs) 12:09, 12 July 2009 (UTC)

Streaming on CrunchyRoll as well

This is like ancient news, but Naruto Shippuden has been streaming on crunchyroll.com for the past 7 months or so (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2008-11-17/tv-tokyo-to-also-stream-naruto-through-crunchyroll). However, this article only mentions the streams on hulu and joost, despite the fact that crunchyroll streams the episode a full week before it's released on hulu or joost, with nearly worldwide distribution (unlike hulu and joost). I personally think that's rather notable and I wonder why it was excluded Souleater143 (talk) 22:57, 18 July 2009 (UTC)

Oversight? :) Fixed now though, thanks for noticing that. -- AnmaFinotera (talk · contribs) 23:35, 18 July 2009 (UTC)

Significance of faces

I've notices that every major character's face is either marked in some way or is partially hidden by part of their clothes/costume; anyone know the significance of that? Just an artistic choice by the creators, or does it carry some other meaning, perhaps in the world of Naruto or the in Japanese culture.Naznarreb (talk) 04:42, 18 August 2009 (UTC)

Wikipedia is not a forum so we can't really discuss that here. If we're going to discuss analysis, we need to get it from published sources, which are hard to come across. Besides, there's probably no significance. Kishimoto has to come up with a huge number of character designs, so it would be hard to make them stand out without adding unique facial decorations. –Gunslinger47 15:39, 18 August 2009 (UTC)

I'm aware that Wikipedia is not a forum. I'm also aware that the article contains very little about about the themes of the series and it's position in Japanese culture, aside from sales rankings. I think more information about what the creator (or others) has said regarding thematic or characterization choices in the series and how those choices interact with Japanese culture at large would not be out of place in an encyclopedia article. My comment was meant to be an invitation to editors and researchers to expand on that.Naznarreb (talk) 04:08, 19 August 2009 (UTC)

So be bold.Tintor2 (talk) 13:07, 19 August 2009 (UTC)

Japanese cover

Does anyone but me think that we should replace the English cover of Naruto with the Japanese one? I think this is a good idea, because everyone already knows what the English cover looks like (also its pretty bad resolution) and the Japanese was the first of it all. :) I can also scan my own manga from my collection. – J U M P G U R U ^{■ask㋐㋜㋗■} 17:49, 19 September 2009 (UTC)

I would simply revert to the previous image after the problems the issues with images are ironed out. Apparently, the original image on the article was the Japanese cover and should not have been changed per consensus at WT:ANIME. However, another editor uploaded the English cover overtop of the Japanese cover. —Farix (t | c) 19:18, 19 September 2009 (UTC)

Support reverting to Japanese cover. Motivation of the one who replaced the image is somewhat "i don't like something not in English" :(

In addition that image doesn't reach the 230px used usually for image in infobox and the image rationale is mixed up. --KrebMarkt 15:55, 20 September 2009 (UTC)

Attempted mind reading makes one who replaced the image sad. D: ~SnapperTo 18:11, 20 September 2009 (UTC)

I'm sorry but past experiences made me very suspicious when someone replace one cover by another. Like that someone wanting to replace Gundam 00 Japanese DVD cover with the English one even if the English cover didn't exist at that time. --KrebMarkt 20:15, 20 September 2009 (UTC)

I tried being bold, but it did not work. I received a "Could not find file "public/archive/9/94/20080509034159!NarutoCoverTankobon1.jpg"."Tintor2 (talk) 22:12, 20 September 2009 (UTC)

Well, this is certainly interesting... I'm getting a "Forbidden: Your client is not allowed to access the requested object." message when trying to view the older version - it makes me half-afraid of trying to revert. I say, then, wait until the image issues get shaken out and try to view/revert again. If that doesn't work, we can upload a new scan. 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · Talk⇒Dinoguy1000} 16:46, 21 September 2009 (UTC)

Image updated. I had to upload a new version of the original image. —Farix (t | c) 01:29, 22 September 2009 (UTC)

All right. I deleted the old file versions to reduce the non-free ...stuff (exact terminology escaping me at the moment =P ). 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · Talk⇒Dinoguy1000} 21:29, 22 September 2009 (UTC)

Naruto shippuuden in Disney XD

i hear naruto shippuuden will be appearing in Disney Xd. though this might just be another rumor, i wanted to ask if we could find any sources to itBread Ninja (talk) 17:34, 22 October 2009 (UTC)

I heard that as well, and was able to find some things on it.
[1]

[2] Mokoniki | talk 19:07, 22 October 2009 (UTC)

i just saw the commercial on Disney XD. it seems to be official. it will be aired in october 28. so i think it's safe to mention it in the article.Bread Ninja (talk) 17:28, 23 October 2009 (UTC)

its on toonzone news and toonzone scheduels there realible secondary sources--Andrewcrawford (talk - contrib) 17:47, 23 October 2009 (UTC)

It's already been noted in the main article for some time now - do a full-text search for "Disney XD" (sans quotes). I already have my DVR programmed to record it. 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · Talk⇒Dinoguy1000} 18:21, 23 October 2009 (UTC)

Teachs me for not checkign the article i was asssumign it was not there since users where bring it up and thought i meantion the source for it--Andrewcrawford (talk - contrib) 19:41, 23 October 2009 (UTC)

Naruto's Father

When are they gonna edit the page to let people know that Naruto's dad was the 4th Hokage? He found out in the Pain Series. Not only that but why did they pick Naruto to be the vessel for the Nine-Tailed Fox and what happened to his mom? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Wparmand (talk • contribs) 18:36, 15 August 2009 (UTC)

And why is it important to add that to the plot section? The characters articles already have such information.Tintor2 (talk) 20:21, 15 August 2009 (UTC)

Demonstrate to us how this information is intrinsically necessary to an understanding of the plot. Otherwise, the information already present in the character list and on Naruto's article is more than enough coverage. 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · Talk⇒Dinoguy1000} 17:02, 17 August 2009 (UTC)

The fact that Naruto's father was the 4th Hokage and the fact it was him who sealed the Nine-Tailed Demon inside of Naruto. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Wparmand (talk • contribs) 20:08, 20 August 2009 (UTC)

And..? These are important aspects of the background of the fictional universe in Naruto, and in the background of Naruto himself, but this still doesn't show how the information is necessary to understand the series' overall plot. 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · Talk⇒Dinoguy1000} 20:38, 20 August 2009 (UTC)

Why did he do it? And what happened to his mom? Did she die or what? Why would someone who was a caring as the 4th put the 9 tailed fox in his only kid? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Wparmand (talk • contribs) 00:55, 17 October 2009 (UTC)

None of those questions were answered. Kishimoto said in the latest databook that what happened to Kushina Uzumaki will later be later. By the way this is not a forum.Tintor2 (talk) 01:24, 17 October 2009 (UTC)

Stupid people, every1 knows who Narutos dad is, its simple its the 4th Hokage! GOD!!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Eclipseisme (talk • contribs) 09:46, 6 November 2009 (UTC)

Did you even read the above comments or WP:Civility before writing this?Tintor2 (talk) 12:05, 6 November 2009 (UTC)

Narutopedia

An old topic, any reason not to include a link to the Narutopedia within the external links section? Avatar: The Last Airbender even links to the avatar wiki. Dantman (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 05:21, 8 October 2009 (UTC).

Because it is not a valid WP:EL. Bad links on other articles are not a valid reason to shove fansite links here. -- AnmaFinotera (talk · contribs) 12:51, 8 October 2009 (UTC)

The wiki is not a fansite. It's existed for almost three years and is highly active with a fair number of editors. The community cites sources and rejects false information from the site. There is no fan content, it's an encyclopedia focused on the facts of the naruto universe, in fact anything related to fan content gets quickly deleted, that's why others created a narutofanon wiki. The wiki is in Wikia's top 10 highest traffic wiki along with starwars.wikia and fallout.wikia which both have links to the wiki on their respective Wikipedia articles. Like both those wiki the Narutopedia focuses on the facts of the universe and aims at open collaboration providing a resource for information focused on the topic, much like Wikipedia but focused on one topic instead of broad in scope. Dantman (talk) 21:50, 27 October 2009 (UTC)

Naruto Shippuuden in the infobox?

Why isn't Naruto shippuuden listed in the infobox? i was assuming at first that the TV anime considered both naruto and naruto shippuuden.Bread Ninja (talk) 17:29, 26 October 2009 (UTC)

It is in the infobox, the second-to-bottom component. Before you ask, components are sorted by initial release date (except for the "other" component, which should always come last), so there's no resorting needed here, either. 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{? · Talk⇒Dinoguy1000} 20:44, 27 October 2009 (UTC)

Unclear Sentence

Hey, there's a sentence near the bottom of the page, "A. E. Sparrow from IGN noted how some manga volumes focus only in certain characters to the point the number of fans increases." Anyone want to clean this up? I'm not sure what it's trying to say, so I don't want to edit it and misrepresent the person being quoted. I think it's saying that some manga volumes only focus on certain characters because this focus increases the number of fans of the manga? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.198.102.148 (talk) 22:57, 7 January 2010 (UTC)

fetarted artical

what will it take to make this artical a featured artical? I'll be willing to help in any way possible. regards--Orangesodakid 18:25, 28 October 2009 (UTC)

Scroll up to the top of this page and read the boxes regarding previous FA/GA candidacy. Most recently, they link to this page: Talk:Naruto/GA1. –Gunslinger47 16:12, 30 October 2009 (UTC)

sorry, but I don't understand, can you tell me what we can do to make this a FA please. regards--Orangesodakid 23:44, 31 October 2009 (UTC)

Reading the link above would be a good start. 02:11, 1 November 2009 (UTC)

About the to-do list, I don't know with what to update it. I thought of adding reception to the shippuden anime, but the reception section is becoming very long.Tintor2 (talk) 02:25, 1 November 2009 (UTC)

Manga

Remember Naruto ep 101? The wiki says that the first 135 eps are based on the mangas, but I can't find the manga for ep 101 anywhere. Does it exist? Please let me know!

There's a three-page omake at the end of the first Naruto data book that that episode is adapted from. Even if that weren't the case, saying "all but one of the first 135 episodes are based on the first 238 chapters of the manga" would be unnecessarily awkward. ~SnapperTo 23:54, 2 November 2009 (UTC)

I do have one question though. Wasn't the land of Tea arc not in the original Manga. That would seem to question whether the above statement is true and that was five episodes. Also the source being use for that statement [[3]] does not even mention the 135 episode comment.--76.66.185.32 (talk) 05:20, 3 November 2009 (UTC)

... The anime people consume more episodes with filler arcs, as the sanbi was never hunted by orochimaru in the first place. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ellerenee (talk • contribs) 04:44, 30 May 2010 (UTC)

Fixed Broken Link

WildBot found a broken link in the Plot section which I went and fixed. An ANON disrupted the Tailed Beast section in the World of Naruto article which caused the problem, in addition to creating links for the tailed beasts which have no existing articles. A simple revert did the trick. Fox816 (talk) 02:35, 19 April 2010 (UTC)

Voice actors

There should to be a list of characters and the actors that speak their parts in the anime version, similar to the chart in http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digimon_Adventure —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.227.7.35 (talk) 20:18, 16 May 2010 (UTC)

Please don't use other stuff to create new articles.Tintor2 (talk) 21:38, 16 May 2010 (UTC)

Naruto's name origin

I didn't look well enough, but I don't think there's a section about how the creator came up with their names. I wonder if Naruto and his seal on his stomach is based off of the Naruto whirlpools. --jjaapp18 Talk to me 08:53, 5 June 2010 (UTC)

Edit request from Gergely012, 18 June 2010

{{editsemiprotected}} Naruto Shippuuden : Takagi Wataru is not Tobi, he is Uchiha Madara, and he disguise himself to Tobi!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! FATAL MISTAKE! Gergely012 (talk) 08:03, 18 June 2010 (UTC)

Not done: please be more specific about what needs to be changed. SpigotMap 12:26, 18 June 2010 (UTC)

Edit request from Xmorad, 8 July 2010

{{editsemiprotected}} <copyvio links removed>

Xmorad (talk) 11:30, 8 July 2010 (UTC)

 Not done per WP:LINKVIO, sorry. Salvio ( ^{Let's talk 'bout it!}) 11:35, 8 July 2010 (UTC)

I've removed the links that are in violation of WP:COPYLIN from the request (which happened to be all of them). —Farix (t | c) 12:43, 8 July 2010 (UTC)

Review(s)

ANN: Anime S3 DVD Box Set 1 --KrebMarkt (talk) 16:41, 11 August 2010 (UTC)

Edit Request: Paragraphing

Rather well done, except for the extraordinarily long paragraphs. I find it rather difficult to actually read the later sections because of the huge blocks of text. I doubt anyone else would find waging through it enjoyable either. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 218.215.49.33 (talk) 02:21, 5 October 2010 (UTC)

Spoilers

Hey, there really needs to be a spoiler warning in the plot section, because I just had the next 50 episodes of Shippuden ruined for me by accidentally reading over about 12 words "Sasuke betrays Orochimaru and goes to fight Itachi alone, however Itachi dies in battle" So THANKS ALOT whoever wrote that. Seriously though, spoiler warnings are needed. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 118.209.179.170 (talk) 17:32, 14 November 2010 (UTC)

Wikipedia is an encyclopedia that covers topics in an academic manner for public reference. Therefore, Wikipedia does not contain spoiler warnings of any form, nor is information left out or hidden on the pretense that it may be a "spoiler". Wikipedia also does not include disclaimers of any form in its articles. —Farix (t | c) 17:44, 14 November 2010 (UTC)

That's fair enough I suppose. Personally, I'd like to see at least a small warning just to say "This may contain spoilers" - and I don't understand how it impacts on the encyclopedic nature of these articles in any way, shape or form. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 118.209.42.168 (talk) 05:27, 16 November 2010 (UTC)

It would affect by the simple fact spoilers are relative. Some people may be new in the series, others still haven't finished Part I. Maybe for some people, the lead intro is already a spoiler. If people are going to read a "plot" section of an article, it should contain information from all the plot.Tintor2 (talk) 15:57, 16 November 2010 (UTC)

This is the part that I've always had difficulty understanding. What else would a plot summary talk other than the most important plot points? I guess it would come down to your purpose for reading the article. –Gunslinger47 21:48, 16 November 2010 (UTC)

Reading this? I just had the next 50 episodes of Shippuden ruined for reading the section on 'spoilers'. Benfen (talk) 10:28, 24 November 2010 (UTC)

Then it makes more sense not to read a plot section if you don't like spoilers.Tintor2 (talk) 13:46, 24 November 2010 (UTC)

"Rock Lee's Springtime of Youth" Spin-off?

Is anybody going to list info about the new spin-off series that just came out? --173.218.170.74 (talk) 04:33, 9 December 2010 (UTC)

I've heard a fairly widespread but as of yet un-confirmed rumour that the company/group that does the dubbing for Naruto (and a few other shows) Is being taken to court because of its mistakes in translation, and that it has had copyright allowences removed, so It can no longer dub episodes after 65 - The Lockdown Of Darkness.

Anyone heard the same story? Anyone know how to investigate it? I think its rather important. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 118.209.78.184 (talk) 07:41, 23 December 2010 (UTC)

That seems highly unlikely and I am sure that there would be coverage on sites such as Anime News Network as well as some buisness related sites if VIZ Media was sued and that dubbing of Naruto was banned. That would be important if true though I have a feeling that is simply a rumor. Also there have been far worse translations than Naruto from various companies which have not resulted in any lawsuits to the best of my knowledge. Long story short, we will need reliable sources first.--76.66.180.54 (talk) 07:02, 25 December 2010 (UTC)

After doing a search of several anime websites I have found nothing regarding a lawsuit of regarding VIZ media over their dubbing or an end to dubbed Naruto episodes. While anything is possible I doubt that this would have been overlooked considering how well know the series is. In short, almost certinly not the case.--76.66.180.54 (talk) 07:37, 25 December 2010 (UTC)

Template transclusions breaking

I seems that this article has exceeded the Post-expand include size and Template argument size limits. Most of this is the result of the reference templates. Unfortunately, I don't see the code for the reference templates being optimized anytime soon, so instead, I would suggest reviewing the current references and use references only when they are needed. For example, a statement backed up with two or more references only needs one. If the same reference is used over and over again, but with different page numbers, then switching to Harvard style using {{harvnb}} for followup citations. Another option would be to consolidate some of the infobox components, such as the OVAs into a single component. —Farix (t | c) 13:53, 23 December 2010 (UTC)

The article looks fine as I see it now. Could you explain what's the issue?Tintor2 (talk) 16:13, 23 December 2010 (UTC)

It's largely been fixed now. However it means that we don't have an important infobox check for cases where someone put English language publishers in the XXX_other fields. —Farix (t | c) 23:06, 23 December 2010 (UTC)

International publishers

Not sure if this has made it's way from the infobox into the article, but moving it here for the time being.

Publishers

Larp Editores
Panini Comics
Glénat
Carlsen Comics
Sangatsu Manga
Kana
Anubis Manga
Rightman
Mangafan
Elex Media Komputindo
Comics House, Komik Remaja
Mundo Vid
Schibsted Forlagene
JPF
Tong Li Comics
Comix-art
Chuang Yi (Chinese)
Daiwon C.I.
Nation Edutainment

Magazines

Banzai!
Weekly Comic
AniWay
Shonen Jump
Comic Champ
Shonen Jump
Weekly Boom Comic

Networks (original)

Cartoon Network
spacepower Cartoon Network, SBT
Chilevision, Cartoon Network
DR
Telesistema Dominicano, Cartoon Network
GameOne
RTL II
TVB Music, TVB Jade
Jetix, Animax
Cartoon Network (coming soon on Animax in 2009)
Global TV
Children Channel
Italia 1
TV3
Cartoon Network, America
ABS-CBN, Studio 23, Hero TV, Cartoon Network Philippines
Jetix
Sic Radical
Télétoon
Jetix
Tooniverse
E City
Jetix, Cuatro
spacepower
ZTV
CTS
Cartoon Network, Gang Cartoon Channel

Networks (Shippuden)

Game One
Italia 1
TV3
ABS-CBN, Hero TV

—Farix (t | c) 23:07, 23 December 2010 (UTC)

Small change that needs to be made

The infobox currently lists Teletoon as one of the channels airing the dub. While that is correct the person who added the link mistakenly linked to the article for the English language channel. The problem is that only the French channel Télétoon (Canadian TV channel) actually aired the show. Since the page is locked I can't fix it so came someone please make the change.--76.66.180.54 (talk) 21:28, 12 February 2011 (UTC)

POV issues

Correct me if I am wrong, but NewgateEdward (talk · contribs) has been repeatedly adding unsourced POV in the lede. Should we leave it out? Darth Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 17:07, 16 August 2011 (UTC)

This is not correct, the information is well known, read the wikipedia descriptions of both sasuke and kurapica. The relationship of the writers is mentioned on the hunterxhunter page and the writer of hxh's page, i also provided an internet link in the pm you deleted, here it is []. I realise it's not the most famous website but the scans are clearly legit.This shouldn't even be necessary considering the fact that the info is already present on this site. — Preceding unsigned comment added by NewgateEdward (talk • contribs) 17:44, 16 August 2011 (UTC)

Unfortunately, even if it is well known, it would have to go into a separate section apart from the lede. Any controversial material would still need a reliable source to back up their claim. Forums are generally not considered reliable sources. Darth Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 17:53, 16 August 2011 (UTC)

Did you even check the scans srsly, they are underneath the spoiler tags and are scans of a well known magazine. — Preceding unsigned comment added by NewgateEdward (talk • contribs) 18:32, 16 August 2011 (UTC)

I have checked the scans. But, is that magazine really considered a reliable source? Darth Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 18:35, 16 August 2011 (UTC)

Removed copyvio link. I was the one who added the information regarding the relationship between the authors of Naruto and Hunter Hunter to Sasuke's article, and as far as I remember, it was nothing controversial. The two authors had a friendly relationship and Kishimoto has noted how he was influenced by YuYu Hakusho's nine-tailed fox for the plot. All the criticism the user added (now blocked, and apparently using another account) appears to be one of those fan comments I have seen in videos or sites. Nothing reliable. In fact, as far as comments by reliable sources regarding the added criticism, it has been the complete opposite as I have noted when working in the reception section from the characters' articles.Tintor2 (talk) 19:47, 16 August 2011 (UTC)

Looking at the edits/vandalism on other articles,[4][5][6] NewgateEdward is just trolling. —Farix (t | c) 23:05, 16 August 2011 (UTC)

Genres

The series also had chapters in comedy (the transmitted characters like Jiraiya). Thus, as scenes of this kind in other more serious chapter. Also, I think characters like Gaara and Orochimaro could give an important air of terror in some chapters. In the series, at least in the fighting, there was an air of suspence: not always the more good person and accepted, won a battle over, so tests Shunin suspended (Rocki Lee, Sakura, Hinata). --Isinbill (talk) 21:34, 9 September 2011 (UTC)

Every series has a bit of every genre, so the genres from the infobox have to be most important for the series. For example, every shonen series has comedy, but only comedy-drived series like Gin Tama or Excel Saga are suitableto place it.Tintor2 (talk) 01:19, 10 September 2011 (UTC)

exactly, its the same reason that Case Closed does not list romance as a genre despite the fact that there is clearly some level of romantic interest bewtten Jimmy Kudo and Racheal Moore. Detectiv fiction is by far the more primary genre in that series.--70.24.211.105 (talk) 19:41, 10 September 2011 (UTC)

Incorrect information

This sentence is incorrect: "The Naruto anime was listed as the 38th best animated show in IGN's Top 100 Animated Series, ranking higher than any other anime.[175]" Neon Genesis Evangelion is #10 on IGN's list. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rhollencamp (talk • contribs) 22:04, 30 January 2012 (UTC)

The article discusses Naruto convincing Pain to leave the Akatsuki. It was Konan that left the Akatsuki as Nagato died from overusing his chakra taking Nagato and Yahiko with her. (later to be killed by Madara.)

Mlvensel (talk) 18:33, 24 June 2011 (UTC)

Corrected.Tintor2 (talk) 01:05, 25 June 2011 (UTC)

Will someone please change the plot from "many people were decimated" to "the population was decimated" or something else? To decimate means to destroy 1 in 10. The way it's written sounds awkward — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jjm2052 (talk • contribs) 10:26, 24 December 2011 (UTC)

Edit request on 30 December 2011

I would like to be able to edit the naruto page, for example too make sure that the episode and volume list is uptodate because I am a fan of naruto and I think that the people using wikipedia should be uptodate on the number of episodes in naruto.

91.176.214.143 (talk) 02:12, 30 December 2011 (UTC)

Not done: requests for changes to the page protection level should be made at Wikipedia:Requests for page protection.  Hazard-SJ  ㋡  07:22, 30 December 2011 (UTC)

Reception Section: Anime: Last Paragraph

To be honest I'm not even sure what this section is meant to convey. Something about Naruto being more serious than Naruto and it being consisted of something that is apparently quite amusing. I edited it so that it now gets to the point and actually resembles English. I also just deleted the last sentence because it sounded like dribble. Honestly it sounds like someone was using information from an article somewhere and edited it to look like original work. Savre (talk) 12:07, 17 February 2012 (UTC)

After Shippuden

Does anyone know what has been confirmed to happen after that point? The author seems to really love writting Naruto stories, I can't see him leaving this cold turkey when the series ends. And please don't respond with a spoiler. Thanks. --TheShadowCrow (talk) 00:26, 21 June 2012 (UTC)

Not a forum though the production section mentions something about this year.Tintor2 (talk) 00:52, 21 June 2012 (UTC)

Genres

Seems that someone just threw a bunch of genres in. I've limited it down to Action, Adventure, Fantasy. Can't find any consensus in the archives to add Comedy or Drama or see any supporting reliable sources. —Farix (t | c)

I also agree. While there are some commedic and dramatic elements in the manga neither a primary element of the work. On the same point we don't list romance as a genre despite the fact that Naruto was clearly romantically interested in Sakura because it is a side element and not central to the plot.--199.91.207.3 (talk) 17:42, 4 October 2012 (UTC)

Please Change The Persian Wikipedia Link

Please change the Persian wikipedia link from "ناروتو" to "نروتو" Danialbehzadi (talk) 18:46, 24 October 2012 (UTC)

 Done —Farix (t | c) 20:51, 24 October 2012 (UTC)

Naruto on Adult Swim

Adult Swim is currently shit. Should this be noted anywhere on this page?--173.53.83.234 (talk) 23:16, 3 February 2013 (UTC)

Is there the proof that Kishimoto is a Japanese?　Naruto is manhwa.

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section.

I've taken the liberty of closing this discussion. This looks like either trolling or GROSS fringe/BLP-violating POV. Hitomaro742 (talk) 11:00, 24 May 2013 (UTC)

http://www.learn-korean-now.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=437

"The creator or Naruto is Korean but the Korean government wouldn't allow violence on TV for kids to watch. So he moved to Japan and it turned into a very popular Japanese anime series."

I have heard a rumor, too. Korean culture is quoted abundantly in NARUTO. 221.189.74.13 (talk) 12:36, 8 May 2013 (UTC)

Even if Kishimoto is Korean or Brazilian, Naruto is a manga because it's written in a Japanese magazine.Tintor2 (talk) 12:52, 8 May 2013 (UTC)

Also message boards are not reliable sources so we can't even use that to say that he is Korean in the first place. Almost every source I've seen had said that he was born in Katsuta, Okayama Prefecture meaning that to even give the claim that he is Korean any consideration whatsoever we are going to need much stronger sourcing than a message board post in 2006. That being said, the fact that it was produced in Japan for in a Japanese publication would make this a Manga regardless of whether or not the Korean claim could be proven.--174.95.111.89 (talk) 18:14, 20 May 2013 it swers alot like bastard(UTC)

It is not suitible for 12 or under coz it swaers like bastard — Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.195.74.231 (talk) 10:56, 24 May 2013 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Typo and Subsequent(?) Missing Link

From the Naruto article:

"...and volume 7 won the Quil Award in 2006."

Please change "Quil" to "Quill" and link "Quill Award" to the appropriate article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2602:306:CD65:13F0:2C53:148E:C849:2BDB (talk) 01:45, 26 July 2013 (UTC)

• Done the above, its working fine now. WJ (talk) 14:31, 27 August 2013 (UTC)
• Replaced the dead links and corrected few reference errors. looks better now.WJ (talk) 08:09, 28 August 2013 (UTC)

Expired external Disney link

Just a heads up for someone with editing permissions for this article... The link for "Disney XD Naruto website" (http://disney.go.com/xd/naruto/) at the bottom of the page is dead and now redirects to the main Disney XD page. This is presumably because the show stopped airing on that network circa 2011. A search on the Disney site for keyword 'Naruto' now only turns up a link to a Naruto game. Removal of the link is suggested. 72.42.185.139 (talk) 18:36, 26 November 2013 (UTC)

It makes sense. While we could try to use archive.org to access the removed page, the fact it's not being used for any sourced content and that we still have the official site from Viz Media keeping the old Disney homepage does not appear to be necessary.--174.93.163.194 (talk) 03:36, 30 November 2013 (UTC)

Repeated sentence

Last paragraph: "However, he notes that it may take a long time to end the series since "there are still so many things that need to be resolved."[13] Additionally, he commented that he doesn't know when and how will the story end since there are still many things to solve." Do these two lines not -at the very least- explain the exact same thing?200.92.88.173 (talk) 16:47, 13 December 2013 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 17 December 2013

Reference to MyAnimeList needs to be tagged with {{rs|date=December 2013}} if not outright removed. MyAnimeList as an unreliable source whose contents is user generated and is listed as a source that should not be used at WP:A&M/ORS. 24.149.119.20 (talk) 12:33, 17 December 2013 (UTC)

Fixed. Thank you for reporting it. Gabriel Yuji (talk) 20:12, 17 December 2013 (UTC)

Terrible dubbing

Why doesn't the article mention the TERRIBLE dubbing in the episodes aired on US TV? Wasn't Cartoon Network airing Naruto? I caught part of an episode once, and then watched a fan's upload of the episode on youtube with subtitles they'd created themselves. (As a rule, fan subtitles are prettymuch always thorough, and even occasionally offer paragraph explanations for unusual Japanese phrases.) CN's dubbing was piss poor and many sentences were changed entirely. Why isn't this mentioned in the article? --98.246.156.76 (talk) 22:54, 12 January 2014 (UTC)

First we would need reliable sources criticising the dubbing (an no your comparasion of the dub and fansubs would not be one). Also even if we were to add this we can't use loaded terms like piss poor per WP:NPOV I doubt there will be that much regarding the dub quality outside of a few fan sites (which are not reliable sources) since there is no where near the worst (lots of early 90's stuff, 4kids dubs etc).--174.93.163.194 (talk) 02:45, 14 January 2014 (UTC)

Light Novels

The Light novel section saying there are three light novel is mistaken. those three are written by the same author is also a mistake. Excluding works adapted from movie also seem to be a mistake if we trust amazon japan. But I have not so much idea on how to fix that so I just some details here. According to Amazon Japan, [7], there are at least 13 light novel adaption for Naruto. (Note that the search criteria has been narrowed down to light novel with one result being not related and there are possibility that some LN adaption hadn't listed in amazon japan)(There are also Shueisha Mirai Bunko version for some of these book but because that is categorized as children literature so those versions are not counted here.)

List of light novel adaption release in Japan

Origianl title	Label/imprint	Author	Release date	Adapted from
ＮＡＲＵＴＯ　白の童子、血風の鬼人	JUMP j BOOKS	日下部 匡俊	2002/12/16	Manga
ＮＡＲＵＴＯ　滝隠れの死闘　オレが英雄だってばよ！			2003/12/15	OVA
ＮＡＲＵＴＯ　大活劇！　雪姫忍法帖だってばよ！！			2004/8/23	Movie
劇場版 ＮＡＲＵＴＯ　大激突！幻の地底遺跡だってばよ			2005/8/22
劇場版 ＮＡＲＵＴＯ　大興奮！みかづき島のアニマル騒動だってばよ			2006/8/7
劇場版 ＮＡＲＵＴＯ　疾風伝			2007/8/6
劇場版 ＮＡＲＵＴＯ　疾風伝　絆			2008/8/4
劇場版 ＮＡＲＵＴＯ　疾風伝　火の意志を継ぐ者			2009/8/3
劇場版ＮＡＲＵＴＯ　疾風伝　ザ・ロストタワー			2010/8/2
ＮＡＲＵＴＯ　ド根性忍伝		東山 彰良	2010/8/4	In-Universe work?
ＮＡＲＵＴＯ―ナルト―　鬼燈の城　＜ブラッド・プリズン＞			2011/7/4	Original, later being adapted into Movie
ROAD TO NINJA NARUTO THE MOVIE		宮田 由佳	2012/7/27	Movie
NARUTO-ナルト- 迅雷伝 狼の哭く日		東山 彰良	2012/11/2	Original

C933103 (talk) 18:50, 3 July 2014 (UTC)

Guidebook

The name of those guidebook should follow the Kuji-kiri order (臨兵鬥者皆陣列在前)(no source for it but it is true till now), but then as the article's guidebook part independently take out the book that had been translated into English, the order is ruined...C933103 (talk) 19:33, 3 July 2014 (UTC)

Manga ending

Is there any word about the manga ending sometime at 2015? Or is it just the current arc? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.159.159.248 (talk) 18:21, 2 March 2014 (UTC)

An article in Neo Magazine states that Naruto is coming to a close pretty soon. Malcasablanca (talk) 11:41, 7 July 2014 (UTC)

Wikipedia is not the place to discuss this. Do your own research. —KirtZ^Message 14:55, 7 July 2014 (UTC)

Update the friggin second paragraph of the lead section.

Still says "will end" on nov 10. This is what happens when you protect an article indefinitely. Meanwhile, the process of hiding edit summaries is going on promptly. --64.233.173.178 (talk) 12:58, 20 November 2014 (UTC)Aka Googleman

Notes

Naruto is currently the top article in the Anime and Manga area, but also not a Good Article. The article's plot is a bit excessive even for the length of the series, but it is not a high priority. Production is entirely on the manga when this is about the whole. Advising a splitting off while retaining production summaries. Under the Media section, the manga is section is fine and the two anime sections are also adequate but need some updates. The Spinoff and OVAs should be worked on a bit. The film section starts to fall apart and needs to be reorganized. The music, video games and novels are a bit sparse. The whole "Reception" section seems like a complete and total cop-out and serves to do almost nothing for the reader that a broad-type article would expect in so many words. My advice is to provide better context and structure for the article with sections on the Setting: laying out the world of Naruto. Themes of Naruto - which is entirely absent now. Reconfigure the production to be the conception aspect - which it almost does perfectly in its current form. The biggest change will be removing the reception aspect and replacing it with a more relevant impact section which will not highlight individual elements in detail, but establish a secondary overview of the entirety with a focus on a larger picture. Part of this could be an analysis of the work as a whole, but we are missing a lot of key details and discussion points because Naruto has boxed itself into an overly large article.

Splitting and expanding to fill the gaps will need to occur. Also, given the size and scope of Naruto, it might be easier to make an Index type article to break down the media. We have 72 volumes of manga, 22 TV seasons and numerous offshoots and films. 58 video games that could be upmerged from List of Naruto video games and then the oodles of CDs and other media. Naruto presents a great example that such an article could actually work as a dedicated reference page by itself. I've tinkered on this matter before, but action here is all but required given that over 3 million people read this article and it still serves as a poor overview of a very large body of work. ChrisGualtieri (talk) 07:53, 29 November 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 2 January 2015

Hello, this is a random Naruto fan here. I was reading through the plot and noticed on the first sentence of the second paragraph, the article uses the term,"Wave Country," to describe the place Naruto went while the actual denomination is known as the Land of Waves. I feel like such a nerd now. Ugh, my life... 65.175.191.201 (talk) 23:43, 2 January 2015 (UTC)

Done I have no idea whether this is correct, so feel free to revert if you disagree. Stickee (talk) 23:58, 2 January 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 3 April 2015

103.17.131.148 (talk) 17:31, 3 April 2015 (UTC) i just want to write about india ... when naruto was open india .... and soo . ... i request to to write me .... i am very big fan of naruto..."_

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Thanks, --ElHef (Meep?) 17:45, 3 April 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 27 April 2015

Please edit the manga section as the new manga has been officially released. The name of the new mini series launched is named Naruto Gaiden , which released 701 th manga on 27 April 2015. This mini series is based on the newer generation Bolt Uzumaki (Son of Naruto and Hinata) and Sarda Uchiha (Daughter of Sasuke ). Cc111222 (talk) 21:40, 27 April 2015 (UTC)

Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format. Esquivalience ^t 23:40, 27 April 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 22 May 2015

Please change he to Naruto as it may confuse the reader on who 'he' is referring to since it states sasuke also in the same sentence. At first i thought it was talking about Sasuke having a crush on Sakura. referrence sentence: "Shortly after, Naruto becomes a ninja and is assigned alongside Sasuke Uchiha, whom he often competes against, and Sakura Haruno, whom he has a crush on, to form a three-person team named Team 7 under an experienced sensei, the elite ninja Kakashi Hatake." under the subject Plot — Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.189.205.98 (talk) 23:21, 22 May 2015 (UTC)

Drama CD's

I noticed the Drama CD's are in the music section. Should they not have a section for themselves. They are not really music. Kind of like the difference between a novel and manga. Truthseeker1022 (talk) 21:34, 26 April 2016 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 20 May 2016

At the external link section, Remove the link "Official Manga Entertainment Naruto website" as this is directing to a website which sells "double windows" and house stuff. Nothing Naruto related. Access the link yourself and see (http://www.narutounleashed.co.uk/) thats the link it is driving to. 191.180.84.250 (talk) 05:25, 20 May 2016 (UTC)

Done. SephyTheThird (talk) 08:28, 20 May 2016 (UTC)

External links

The article currently has 7 external links, 4 of which are Japanese. While not an excessive amount, perhaps we should trim the number a bit. The question that has been raised is the useful ness of the Japanese links considering the size of the franchise's visibility in English language regions. I don't believe that we should remove all the Japanese links just because they are Japanese, but it may be that their usefulness has passed and they can safely be removed on merit rather than a language bias.

For example the Tv Tokyo page for the original anime is probably not necessary seeing as that series finished broadcasting many years ago. On the other hand the Shippudden page may be worth keeping considering that series is very much still running.SephyTheThird (talk) 19:15, 14 September 2016 (UTC)

Themes section?

Might the recently-added Critical reception section be better expressed as a "Themes" section, like in Romeo and Juliet or To Kill a Mockingbird? --122.108.141.214 (talk) 23:48, 8 March 2017 (UTC)

I agree with you. By the way, good work in the Naruto articles. I would recommend you creating an account, so that you could work in a sandbox or get more stuff. Regards.Tintor2 (talk) 00:28, 9 March 2017 (UTC)

• Done MCMLXXXIX 00:31, 9 March 2017 (UTC)

Additional source

• Huang, Cheng-Wen; Archer, Arlene (November 2014). "Fluidity of modes in the translation of manga: the case of Kishimoto's Naruto". Visual Communication. 13 (4): 471–486. doi:10.1177/1470357214541746.

This might be interesting for the publication section - it compares a fan translation to the official translation. --122.108.141.214 (talk) 02:39, 9 March 2017 (UTC)

• Added MCMLXXXIX 18:03, 9 March 2017 (UTC)

Additional (online) book

• Jaqueline Berndt, ed. (2012). Intercultural Crossovers, Transcultural Flows: Manga/Comics (PDF). Global Manga Studies, vol. 2. Kyoto Seika University International Manga Research Center. ISBN 9784905187066. Retrieved 9 March 2017.

I'm not 100% certain on how to cite this - it is published by Kyoto Seika University as a set of conference proceedings, and has some overlap with the cultural crossroads book, however there are some unique chapters. Might be worth double-checking its suitability before citing this. --122.108.141.214 (talk) 04:21, 9 March 2017 (UTC)

• Added MCMLXXXIX 18:03, 9 March 2017 (UTC)

New Material

Hello:

I've had a look at the changes you've made and made some edits. Again, I strongly recommend that you use direct quotations as your paraphrasing is difficult to understand. Try as I might, I cannot make sense of this paragraph:

"Cheng-Wen Huang and Arlene Archer, writers from University of Cape Town, state in their essay "Fluidity of Modes in the Translation of Manga: The Case of Kishimoto's Naruto that fan translations and the official English translations of Naruto are comparable, due to the both of them being fluid, and being translated in social practices. The pair states that the translated versions of Naruto reveals how important it is to have a layout system for juxtaposition of time and space, characters, and graphic imagery."

You should also be asking yourself whether the information you have come across is different from what is already in the article. If it is not, is it going to add significantly to the article and the reader's understanding?

Regards

Twofingered Typist (talk) 19:29, 9 March 2017 (UTC)

• @Twofingered Typist: I fixed it. MCMLXXXIX 19:40, 9 March 2017 (UTC)

Possible retrospective news articles?

Because Naruto: Shippuden is scheduled to finish up in a few weeks, might it be worth waiting to nominate for FA until after the finale to see if there are any news articles (on Anime News Network or similar) marking the conclusion of the series? --122.108.141.214 (talk) 22:16, 15 March 2017 (UTC)

Hope this helps.Tintor2 (talk) 22:39, 15 March 2017 (UTC)

Pre-FAC feedback

This is not my area by any means. I did a little tinkering but the prose looks ok at a glance. The only thing I wonder about comprehensiveness is any sort of legacy - influence on later anime/manga...? Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 09:30, 16 March 2017 (UTC)

The legacy I know about this series are:

• Yoshiyuki Sadamoto based Kite, the protagonist of .hack, on Naruto (It's in the character article)
• One of the singers from the anime was originally a fan of the series who was inspired by Naruto's characterization (Also in the character's article)
• Lastly, I heard the author of My Hero Academia was inspired by Naruto. Sadly, I can't find any source.

Tintor2 (talk) 13:57, 16 March 2017 (UTC)

• @Casliber: There isn't much informarion about legacy. Is having it a mandatory thing? MCMLXXXIX 17:19, 16 March 2017 (UTC)

Not mandatory, but if anything can be sourced it'd be good is all. I guess this sort of material was the only thing that struck me as missing from the article. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 19:02, 16 March 2017 (UTC)

Translating titles

Don't forget to translate the Japanese titles of sources. --122.108.141.214 (talk) 10:29, 16 March 2017 (UTC)

I did that already. MCMLXXXIX 10:30, 16 March 2017 (UTC)

I thought there were a couple that slipped through: " "Naruto—ナルト—". Shueisha. Archived from the original on January 1, 2009. Retrieved January 7, 2009." " "Naruto -ナルト- ナルティメットヒーロー3" (in Japanese). Amazon.com. Archived from the original on April 5, 2016. Retrieved July 3, 2009." " "BORUTO -NARUTO THE MOVIE- | 劇場版 DVD | NARUTO-ナルト- 疾風伝 | アニプレックス". Aniplex. Archived from the original on December 26, 2016. Retrieved March 15, 2017." --122.108.141.214 (talk) 12:30, 16 March 2017 (UTC)

Fixed MCMLXXXIX 12:54, 16 March 2017 (UTC)

Clarifications

Plot Part I clarification

I'm copyediting Part I of the plot section and I have a couple of questions.

• When Naruto's father seals the Nine-Tails inside Naruto, he dies; at that point does the Third Hokage become the leader of Konoha? And does he issue the decree that nobody should mention the Nine-Tails while Naruto is young enough that he still doesn't know? It seems like that's the sequence. So everyone in the village except Naruto (and, presumably, other children his age or younger) knows, but because of the decree they can't tell Naruto -- is that right?
  • The Third Hokage had retired so he simply retakes his place. The older generations knows about Naruto's origins and tell their children not to get close to the kid.
• "ninja Mizuki reveals the truth to Naruto before he was defeated by him" -- does this mean that Naruto, at age 12, defeats Mizuki? And Iruka Umino is Naruto's teacher?
  • For his first battle against Mizuki, Naruto uses a technique from the scroll he just stole and Mizuki isn't exactly a genius. Also, Iruka is only Naruto's children but before he became a ninja. When Naruto becomes a ninja his designated teacher is Kakashi.Tintor2 (talk) 22:59, 4 June 2017 (UTC)
• What's the reference to the major mission from the Land of Waves? Is this the one that convinces Kakashi to allow Team 7 to take the ninja exam?
  • After this mission, Kakashi allows Team 7 to enter into the exam.Tintor2 (talk) 22:59, 4 June 2017 (UTC)
• Why does the death of the Third Hokage force Jiraiya to search with Naruto for Tsunade? How did Tsunade get nominated to be the Fifth Hokage if he wasn't there?
  • Jiraiya was given the title of Fifth, but he preferred to remain in the shadows to protect Naruto. He instead chooses Tsunade as a scapegoat.Tintor2 (talk) 22:59, 4 June 2017 (UTC)
• I can't figure out the sequence of events in the second paragraph of Part I. If Tsunade has to be searched for by Jiraiya, how can he send Naruto to retrieve Sasuke?
  • After Tsunade returns to the village, Sasuke leaves and the Leaf/Konoha ninja go after him.Tintor2 (talk) 22:59, 4 June 2017 (UTC)
• "Naruto couldn't bring him back to the village": he tried by force and failed? Or he tried to persuade him? Or something else?
  • Naruto failed in both attempts but he fails.Tintor2 (talk) 22:59, 4 June 2017 (UTC)

-- Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 22:49, 4 June 2017 (UTC)

I've copyedited a bit based on the responses above; I had to guess at terminology in a couple of places (e.g. is "Fifth Hokage" a title?) so please fix anything I screwed up. Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 01:11, 7 June 2017 (UTC)

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More clarifications:

• "refusing to sit back as instructed": who instructs them to stay away from the battle
• "Later, when he became unsatisfied with a rough draft": a rough draft of what? A follow up to Karakuri?

-- Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 10:45, 7 June 2017 (UTC)

• @Mike Christie: Fifth Hokage Tsunade ordered a number of elite ninja to the Hidden Cloud Village to guard and delay Naruto from leaving as he was training, and not letting him find out about the Fourth Shinobi War. When Naruto finds out, he escapes the ninjas preventing him from leaving and leaves the village to fight and Killer B leaves as well to assist him.
• Despite Karakuri's plot release being popular, he didn't know how to continue and was unsatisfied with his drafts, so he decided to start over with Naruto. -- 1989 15:36, 7 June 2017 (UTC)

• What's the standard terminology to distinguish Naruto the one shot from Naruto the series? For example, when he drafts the first eight chapters of the series, after the one shot, can we say something like "Kishimoto began work on a series to follow up the one shot; he had the first eight chapters planned before they appeared in the magazine, with many panels of intricate art illustrating the Konoha village. By the time the series debuted..."?
• When Kishimoto says he's afraid chakra and hand signs might make it too Japanese, what is he referring to? Our article on chakra refers to an Indian concept, and I don't know of any specifically Japanese hand signs. Can these terms be linked?

-- Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 13:12, 9 June 2017 (UTC)

• The stories between the one shot and the series are different. For your re-work of the sentence, I wouldn't want to leave out the second one-shot.
• I don't know. I think he was referring to jutsu. @Tintor2: Have any idea? -- 1989 13:38, 9 June 2017 (UTC)

Didn't read that interview.Tintor2 (talk) 15:20, 9 June 2017 (UTC)

@Mike Christie: I forgot that I had the comic. He's referring to the manga in general. Shonen Jump asked him what message did he want to say to native English speaking fans. He answered that while the manga is too Japanese with chakra and hand signs, he hopes the audience will enjoy it. -- 1989 13:24, 10 June 2017 (UTC)

OK, but what is chakra? And what are Japanese hand signs? Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 13:34, 10 June 2017 (UTC)

@Mike Christie: I linked it above on my original answer. -- 1989 13:37, 10 June 2017 (UTC)

So you did; sorry. Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 13:46, 10 June 2017 (UTC)

• "Kishimoto has said that, as Naruto takes place in a fantasy world involving Japanese culture, he set certain rules systematically so he could quickly tell the story. He wanted to use the Chinese zodiac tradition, which had a long-standing presence in Japan; the zodiac hand signs originates from this." The first part of the sentence isn't clear to me -- you can tell a story quickly without setting rules systematically. And I don't know what's meant by "set certain rules systematically"; does it just mean he set up a system of rules? Could you quote the underlying source? It's also not clear why the second sentence follows from the first -- did he pick the Chinese zodiac tradition because it was the system of rules he was looking for?

  @Mike Christie: What he meant was that due to the setting of the plot being a Japanese fantasy world, he felt that he needed to set rules in a systemically way in order to convey the story easily. That's how he did it. Yes, he included Chinese zodiac tradition because he wanted to draw ancient tradition in the story.

  Sorry, perhaps I'm being thick here, but I still don't get it. Why would the fact that the setting is a Japanese fantasy world mean he needed rules to convey the story easily? Why would that help? Does he give examples? Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 15:08, 10 June 2017 (UTC)

  @Mike Christie: Not really.

• "admits that the scenery became based on his home": does this refer to the scenery in his village (the topic of the previous sentence)? Or the whole series?

• @Mike Christie: The whole series, and what the person meant by "his home" was Kyoto. Yeah it was Konoha (I read it wrong) if that's what you meant. If you meant Kyoto, then yeah. 1989 15:06, 10 June 2017 (UTC)

• Just a note to say that I'm going to cut the mention of the 2006 interview in which Kishimoto says he has an idea for how to end it because it's not clear that was the same as the actual ending -- if that had been a 2014 interview we would know.

• No problem there. -- 1989 15:02, 10 June 2017 (UTC)

• Could someone send me a pdf of this paper cited in the article: Plumb, Amy (2010). "Japanese Religion, Mythology, and the Supernatural in Anime and Manga". The International Journal of the Humanities. 8 (5): 237–246. ISSN 1447-9508? Thanks.

-- Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 14:29, 10 June 2017 (UTC)

• Send me an email and I'll send it. -- 1989 15:16, 10 June 2017 (UTC)

  Sent; thanks. Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 16:46, 10 June 2017 (UTC)

  And received. Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 15:06, 11 June 2017 (UTC)

  1989: actually, now that I look at it, it looks like you sent some chapters from Manga's Cultural Crossroads, which I would probably have asked for anyway, but could you also send me the Plumb? Thanks. Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 15:24, 11 June 2017 (UTC)

  @Mike Christie: I sent it. 1989 15:42, 11 June 2017 (UTC)

1989: Thanks for the image of the source used for the "systematic rules" sentence. I don't think it's clear enough what he's talking about for us to be able to use it. I'd like to cut that sentence to "Kishimoto wanted to use the Chinese zodiac tradition, which had a long-standing presence in Japan; the zodiac hand signs originates from this"; the source is good for the first half of that, but it doesn't cover the second half. From this it appears that "Shonen Jump #33 Volume 3, Issue 9, September 2005. Viz Media. p. 8." could be added as a source to cover that; can you confirm? Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 15:06, 11 June 2017 (UTC)

I don't have the comic. I just brought it online, and it won't get to me until maybe a week. -- 1989 15:42, 11 June 2017 (UTC)

Thanks for doing that! I hope it wasn't expensive, but I appreciate it. I think the Themes section is going to be the slowest to get through because the sources are complex; after that it should go a bit more quickly. Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 22:34, 11 June 2017 (UTC)

@Mike Christie: I couldn't find anything new. It has the same responses from the text I sent you. -- 1989 19:31, 26 June 2017 (UTC)

I'd like to get a copy of:

• Huang, Cheng-Wen; Archer, Arlene (October 13, 2014). "Fluidity of modes in the translation of manga: the case of Kishimoto's Naruto"Paid subscription required. Visual Communication. 13 (4): 471–486. doi:10.1177/1470357214541746 if possible -- the sentence currently in the article based on it seems fairly minor and I'm inclined to cut it, but I'd like to read the source.
• Spanjers, Rik (2013). "Naruto". In Beaty, Bart H.; Weiner, Stephen. Critical Survey of Graphic Novels : Manga. Ipswich, Mass.: Salem Press. pp. 215–221. ISBN 978-1-58765-955-3 – via EBSCOhost.

-- Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 00:32, 13 June 2017 (UTC)

Papers received; thanks. Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 12:25, 13 June 2017 (UTC)

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Just a note to say that I've cut several sentences sourced to Fujimoto's article; it seemed off-topic for the coming-of-age theme of that section. I don't think we need another section to reintroduce the material as most of it seemed fairly bland commentary, but please say if anyone thinks something important was cut. I wonder if we need to mention yaoi? Fujimoto says there's a huge yaoi fandom for Naruto; it might be worth a mention. Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 01:41, 13 June 2017 (UTC)

• "centers on the group Taka": what does this mean? Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 02:45, 13 June 2017 (UTC)

  User:1989: I was going to change this to "centers on Taka, a group of four ninjas including Sasuke that featured in the plot of Naruto" based on your email, but that's not supported by the source in the article, which only mentions Sasuke. I've changed it to just mention Sasuke; if we have a source that mentions Taka we can expand it. Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 22:19, 13 June 2017 (UTC)

  @Mike Christie: Can you use this source? -- 1989 22:43, 13 June 2017 (UTC)

  Looks like a reliable source, but it seems to be talking mostly about the musical -- it doesn't talk about Uchiha Sasuke no Sharingan Den, does it? Or did I miss it? Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 23:48, 13 June 2017 (UTC)

• "Episodes from the series have been published on DVD, with the first DVD series also available on VHS.[59] Five series of four episodes each have been released.[60] The series was also collected in three DVD boxed sets during 2009.[61][62] The latest DVD series is Naruto The Best Scene that shows scenes from the first 135 episodes of the anime.[63] -- as far as I can tell, these are sourced to individual product descriptions. The problem with that is there's no way to tell if other material exists; and is "latest" still true, in any case? I'd like to cut this to something like "Episodes from the series have been released on both VHS and DVD, and collected as boxed sets", using a subset of the same citations. Any objections? Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 12:25, 13 June 2017 (UTC)

  Now done. Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 02:30, 14 June 2017 (UTC)

• The article says "The English adaptation of the anime began airing on September 10, 2005 and concluded on January 31, 2009, with 209 episodes aired", but List of Naruto episodes gives English airdates for all 220 episodes. Can we resolve the difference?
• "Kishimoto requested that Tetsuya Nishio oversee the character designs of Naruto when the manga adapted into an anime series." Do we know if this actually happened?

  Yes, Nishio was the character designer. --122.108.141.214 (talk) 03:20, 14 June 2017 (UTC)

  That seems to just refer to the manga; it's not clear from that if Nishio continued to oversee the character design for the anime. Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 09:48, 14 June 2017 (UTC)

  Nishio is introduced as the anime character designer in the article. --122.108.141.214 (talk) 22:21, 14 June 2017 (UTC)

  You're right; somehow I misread that. Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 11:19, 15 June 2017 (UTC)

• "ABS-CBN (in the Philippines) was the first TV channel outside Japan to broadcast Naruto: Shippuden; it aired the first 40 episodes until March 19, 2008." This seems to be unsourced; I've cut it for now and we can re-add it if we can find a source, though I'm not sure it's that important a fact to include in any case.
• "Like the first series, several scenes were edited before the broadcast." This is cited to here which doesn't seem to support it, so I'm cutting it -- let me know if a source can be found.
• "There was a special feature included with the seventh Naruto: Shippuden compilation DVD based on the second ending of the series called Hurricane! "Konoha Academy" Chronicles." What does "the second ending of the series" refer to?

  I don't know, I'd remove it. -- 1989 15:29, 15 June 2017 (UTC)

• "The second artbook titled Illustration Collection: Naruto (イラスト集 NARUTO? Irasuto-shū: Naruto) published on July 3, 2009, under the title Book of Bright Light (光明篇? Kōmyō-hen) with its English version released on October 26, 2010." One of the two links is broken (and so is the archived version). I can't see any reference to the title "Book of Bright Light" in the other one, and I'm not sure what is meant by saying that the book has two titles; can you clarify?

  I fixed the broken archive link yesterday. -- 1989 15:29, 15 June 2017 (UTC)

-- Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 09:48, 14 June 2017 (UTC)

1989, the OVAs, Films and Novels sections each consist almost entirely of a list of the films and novels, with release dates, and one or two extra notes. Any objections to converting those sections to tables? Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 10:05, 14 June 2017 (UTC)

@Mike Christie: If you plan to do that, then List of Naruto media won't be needed? -- 1989 10:22, 14 June 2017 (UTC)

I was thinking of something much more compressed, so no, I think that article would still be needed. However, given that that article exists, would it make sense to have a "Main article: List of Naruto media" note, and just list the key information, whatever we decide that is? Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 10:32, 14 June 2017 (UTC)

@Mike Christie: There's a see also link to the article under Media. If you want it changed to main article, be my guest. -- 1989 11:18, 14 June 2017 (UTC)

So there is; I should look before I type. I'll put a table together in a sandbox and we can see if it looks better than the text. Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 11:45, 14 June 2017 (UTC)

Novels

I suggested above that the novels section (among others) could be compressed into a table, but having looked at List of Naruto media I no longer think that's a good idea -- the list article looks good in table format because it has so much information to convey, but it would be pointless to replicate a subset of that here. Instead, here's an attempt to eliminate some of the details from that paragraph on the grounds that the list article contains the details. I think here the reader just wants a narrative of the main information about the novels.

Twenty-six Naruto light novels, with the first nine written by Masatoshi Kusakabe, have been published in Japan with the first two released in English in North America. The first adapted novel, Naruto: Innocent Heart, Demonic Blood (2002) retells Team 7's mission in which they encounter the assassins Zabuza and Haku; the second, Naruto: Mission: Protect the Waterfall Village! (2003) was based on the second OVA of the anime. Viz has also published 16 chapter books written by Tracey West with illustrations from the manga. Unlike the series, these books are aimed at children ages seven to ten.

Thirteen original novels have appeared in Japan; eleven of these are part of a series, and the other two are independent novels unconnected to the series. The series' first independent novel, titled Naruto: Tales of a Gutsy Ninja (2009) is presented as an in-universe novel written by Naruto's master Jiraiya. It follows the adventures of a fictional shinobi named Naruto Musasabi, who served as Naruto's namesake. The other independent novel, Naruto Jinraiden: The Day the Wolf Howled (2012) is set shortly after Sasuke's fight with Itachi, but before he awakens his Mangekyō Sharingan.

Itachi Shinden, which consists of two novels, and Sasuke Shinden, a single novel, both appeared in 2015, and both were adapted into anime arcs in Naruto: Shippuden in 2016, titled Naruto Shippūden: Itachi Shinden-hen: Hikari to Yami and Book of Sunrise respectively. Naruto Hiden is a series of six light novels published in 2015 that explores the stories of various characters after the ending of the manga.

I know this is a big cut, but I think everything cut can be found in the list article. Is there anything that cut in this version that a reader would really want to see without going to the list article?

I won't tackle the other media paragraphs until we've agreed on this one, but I would suggest doing something similar with them. Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 11:48, 15 June 2017 (UTC)

@Mike Christie: Looks fine to me. -- 1989 15:29, 15 June 2017 (UTC)

OK, done. I left all the cites in for the last couple of sentences, which is overkill; I will go through and trim to whatever's necessary when I have a minute -- though if you have time to look through and pick whatever best supports the remaining text, that would be very helpful. I'll go ahead and cut the other sections similarly. Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 22:16, 15 June 2017 (UTC)

@Mike Christie: Done -- 1989 01:44, 16 June 2017 (UTC)

Thank you; much appreciated. Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 01:56, 16 June 2017 (UTC)

Reception section

The first part of the reception section is really about commercial success and awards; I suggest we split that off as a separate section. However, most of the figures given are from years ago. Are there more recent numbers that could be used? I see some of the stats are given year by year, which I don't think we need; we could just say "has sold 200 million copies as of 2017" or whatever the total number is now, if we can find it. Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 01:56, 16 June 2017 (UTC)

@Mike Christie: Well, since October 2015 was the time it ended and the last time the number of sales was updated due to it, I would take out the as of part and just say what was sold overall in its run. -- 1989 02:04, 16 June 2017 (UTC)

@1989: do you have access to a copy of Huang, Cheng-Wen; Archer, Arlene (October 13, 2014). "Fluidity of modes in the translation of manga: the case of Kishimoto's Naruto"Paid subscription required. Visual Communication. 13 (4): 471–486. doi:10.1177/1470357214541746? Only the abstract appears to be available online. Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 13:23, 18 June 2017 (UTC)

Sorry, struck; it's cited in an earlier section and you already sent me a copy. Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 17:08, 18 June 2017 (UTC)

Ninja World spinoff article?

Is the Ninja World spinoff article notable? --122.108.141.214 (talk) 04:20, 17 June 2017 (UTC)

No, as of right now. I plan to work on the article now that I have more free time. -- 1989 07:17, 17 June 2017 (UTC)

Pre-FAC review

I've done a fairly complete pass through the article. I'm going to start again at the top and put fresh questions or issues here. After this pass I think it'll be down to a copyedit pass, and a check against prior FAC problems.

• "The English adaptation was broadcast on Disney XD from 2009 to 2011, and on Adult Swim's Toonami block in January 2014". The body of the article says these were weekly, but if there were 500 episodes, weekly broadcases would take nearly ten years to finish. Or is it just episodes 1-97 that ran in this time period?

  Only 98 episodes episodes aired on Disney XD in the United States; I'm not sure about Toonami. The full airing of the 500 episodes was in Japan, the English version of the series is not done yet. – 1989 21:58, 18 June 2017 (UTC)

  I just looked at the sources in the body for this, and I don't think they support what the article currently says. Footnote 80 is used to support "Naruto: Shippuden aired weekly on Disney XD from October 28, 2009, to November 5, 2011", but it actually shows an upcoming schedule, which of course could have changed; and it shows episodes 101 through 246, in any case. Footnote 81 & footnote 82 support "Episodes 98 onward premiered uncut on Neon Alley beginning December 29, 2012, and on Toonami starting on January 5, 2014", but again they're forward announcements, and I don't see a mention of either Neon Alley or the Toonami start date in any case. Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 10:58, 19 June 2017 (UTC)

  The numbering is wrong, I don't know why it's saying 101 to 246 (maybe they have a format to start with 101); the source contains all 98 episodes airdates except for the last one, which was a movie premiere. Also, those are the official dates that the episodes aired as that source is used for List of Naruto: Shippuden episodes as well, and in the FLC, nobody mentioned to replace it. For the unstable part, not really, I looked through the archives and the only thing that was changed was adding new entries.

  For the Toonami and Neon Alley part, I changed the sources to accurate ones. -- 1989 15:46, 19 June 2017 (UTC)

  The Toonami/Neon Alley fix looks good; thanks. Not sure what you're referring to by "the unstable part" -- do you mean the sources that are referring to future events? I don't think the fact that the source wasn't challenged at FLC is enough; we need to be sure it really supports what we're using it to source. Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 00:37, 20 June 2017 (UTC)

  @Mike Christie: You said that the source may be unstable because it's a upcoming list of airdates and dates could of changed, which I disagree with. All of the dates are under the Debut section, meaning that those airings were present. The "see all upcoming" link is just a day to day schedule showing entries of different shows on different channels, that doesn't make the list an upcoming list. -- 1989 05:09, 20 June 2017 (UTC)

  OK, I looked at it again and I agree; this is fine. Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 09:52, 20 June 2017 (UTC)

• Tintor2: re this edit, was the change from chef to ninja before or after the Naruto one shot? You say "the series" was going to feature Naruto as a chef, so was he a chef in the one-shot?
  • I think it was before the oneshot because in the interview, Kishimoto said that he then started adding more mytical features to Naruto such as the fox and ninjutsu. In the oneshot Naruto was the fox himself.Tintor2 (talk) 17:31, 18 June 2017 (UTC)

    OK, thanks. Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 18:11, 18 June 2017 (UTC)

    Tintor2: I've copyedited; can you check it's still faithful to the source? I also took out a sentence about how Kishimoto found it challenging; I think that's covered as much as necessary in the next paragraph, unless you feel the source has something we don't have in the article. Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 19:02, 18 June 2017 (UTC)

    • Seems fine.Tintor2 (talk) 19:11, 18 June 2017 (UTC)
• "When Hinata first appeared, Kishimoto thought of forming a love triangle among the three characters, though he later regretted the idea as he considered Naruto to be a fighting series with little focus on romance." It says Kishimoto "thought of" having a love triangle; did this actually happen? That is, are there romantic connections between Sakura and both of the other two?

  No, it didn't happen. – 1989 21:58, 18 June 2017 (UTC)

  OK, I've copyedited to tweak the wording. Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 11:02, 19 June 2017 (UTC)

• The article says "The English adaptation of the anime began airing on September 10, 2005 and concluded on January 31, 2009, with 209 episodes aired", but List of Naruto episodes gives English airdates for all 220 episodes. Can we resolve the difference?

  Yes. The 209 part was for the Cartoon Network US, because that's how many aired on the channel before the rest aired on YTV in Canada. – 1989 21:58, 18 June 2017 (UTC)

  OK, that explains it. Is there a source for that? Looking at this section I see some sourcing issues; for example, footnote 67 is used to support all of "The episodes were broadcast on SABC 2 (South Africa), Cartoon Network's Toonami (United States), YTV's Bionix (Canada) and Jetix's (United Kingdom) programming blocks, and were released on DVD on March 28, 2006" except the South African release, but as far as I can tell it only covers the DVD release. And footnote 65 supports the 209 episodes, but even clicking on the other nine season pages I can't figure out how the count of 209 is reached; and it says nothing about Viz as far as I can see. Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 11:12, 19 June 2017 (UTC)

  I added new sources. -- 1989 15:46, 19 June 2017 (UTC)

  Looks good. Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 10:07, 20 June 2017 (UTC)

That's everything I can see on this pass. I still want to do a final copyedit pass after the points above are dealt with, but I think this is pretty close now. 1989, what do you think? Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 18:54, 18 June 2017 (UTC)

@Mike Christie: From your revisions, you were able to make the article shorter and easier to read. No problems on my part. Hopefully, after your done, this could be up for FAC again. – 1989 22:00, 18 June 2017 (UTC)

Yes, I think we're getting close to that point. Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 10:58, 19 June 2017 (UTC)

If the ninja world article is not notable, some information about kage might need to be put in a footnote here, like for Jinchuriki. --122.108.141.214 (talk) 23:38, 18 June 2017 (UTC)

It seems clear to me (I haven't read the manga) that kage are some kind of leader; is more needed in the article? Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 10:58, 19 June 2017 (UTC)

@Mike Christie: No. -- 1989 15:46, 19 June 2017 (UTC)

I'll recheck the sources fixed by 1989 above, but I think if we're running into this sort of thing we should go through it now before this goes to FAC again, where it might cause problems. I think the Media section is the one to look at since that's where we're mostly likely to have to rely on product description pages and occasional announcements.

• "Naruto was published in Shueisha's Weekly Shōnen Jump magazine from September 21, 1999, to November 10, 2014": I don't see the September date in either source given; they both just say 1999. The viz.com one seems unnecessary.

  I added a new source. -- 1989 04:51, 20 June 2017 (UTC)

• "The first 238 chapters..." through to "...released on March 3, 2000" is all sourced to a couple of sheisha.co.jp pages. I can see 72 books are listed, but unless I'm missing something there's mention of the chapter count in the original manga, and it doesn't say which books correspond to Part I and which to Part II. Volume 27 says it's about Kakashi but doesn't say it's a spinoff.

  I changed the word spin-off. It is known as Part I and II due to the anime series split (e.g. Naruto - kid years and Naruto Shippuden - teen years). -- 1989 04:51, 20 June 2017 (UTC)

• The archive link for the Naruto ani-manga cite is dead.

  @Mike Christie: Fixed. -- 1989 04:51, 20 June 2017 (UTC)

-- I'll go through more of the section and report back if I find any more issues. Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 00:32, 20 June 2017 (UTC)

I've checked all the remaining points above, and spot-checked some more sources, and everything looks good. I'll do one more copyedit pass, this morning if I have time, or else tonight. 1989, can you confirm that all the citations are in consistent format? I'm terrible at checking that sort of thing and I know you've added a few. Once that's done, I think it'll be ready to nominate again. Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 10:42, 20 June 2017 (UTC)

OK, I did another copyedit of the lead, which was the main thing I wanted to do. The lead seems a bit short for the length of the article, but I don't think that's a big issue. I think this is ready for FAC. Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 11:09, 20 June 2017 (UTC)

@Mike Christie: I expanded it a little bit, and I can see that you just copyedit it. A few archive links were missing, so I filled it in. I have no issues to proceed; would you mind if I marked you as a co-nominator? -- 1989 16:05, 20 June 2017 (UTC)

Thank you; that's generous of you. Please go ahead. Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 16:25, 20 June 2017 (UTC)

• Done. @Tintor2, Gen. Quon, Aoba47, ISD, Jaguar, Adamstom.97, Casliber, and FunkMonk: For the people tagged on this comment who were formerally involved in the previous FAC, would you be able to re-review the article for FA in your earliest convenience? Thanks. -- 1989 16:47, 20 June 2017 (UTC)

• I'll try to look at it soon. I will say (and I only learned this a few weeks ago), if you've archived a web source, you don't need the "retrieved" date, as it's redundant (the archive date is more important). At FAN the other day, I was told to clean up my citations by removing those dates, and they might ask the same of this article.--Gen. Quon (Talk) 17:12, 20 June 2017 (UTC)
• I will try to look at this and provide commentary by the end of today. I agree with Gen. Quon's comment in that access dates should be removed from the references/citations as soon as the source is archived to avoid having three separate dates in the reference section. Good luck with this nomination this time around. It seems that you got a lot of very helpful feedback prior to putting this up. Aoba47 (talk) 17:23, 20 June 2017 (UTC)
• I'll have a look through it when I can. ISD (talk) 17:34, 20 June 2017 (UTC)

1989: This is used to support "While manga author Hiroaki Samura praised the way Kishimoto handled ninjas for a younger audience, Kishimoto responded saying this resulted in criticism from Western fans" but I don't see anything in the source that talks about a younger audience. Am I missing something? Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 10:11, 22 June 2017 (UTC)

@Mike Christie: I tweaked it. -- 1989 19:16, 22 June 2017 (UTC)

That's more faithful to the source, but now I think we should just cut it. All it says is "Sunamura says it's great; Kishimoto says not everyone likes it". I don't think that really gives a reader any new information; there are plenty of people who like Naruto who could be quoted -- why should we quote this? Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 21:53, 22 June 2017 (UTC)

I tweaked it again. -- 1989 21:59, 22 June 2017 (UTC)

Sorry, 1989, I still don't think that's worth including. Google Translate says the quote is " the ninja it was a big bold decision. Because the ninja statue of "NARUTO" has grabbed overseas ninja lovers as well"; I suspect a more colloquial translation would be something like " the ninja it was a very good decision, because "NARUTO" has grabbed overseas ninja lovers as well". In other words, "it turned out to be a good decision, because it was successful overseas". That's not very useful -- the reader already knows it was very successful internationally, and having Samura say so isn't interesting. Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 11:07, 23 June 2017 (UTC)

Removed. -- 1989 12:59, 24 June 2017 (UTC)

Questions about a couple of edits

@1989: can you clarify one of the edits you made in response to the FAC comments?

• ' the character Rock Lee, a character who wears a green jumpsuit who inspires to be strong as a ninja due to lack of performing jutsu abilities': what does "inspires to be strong as a ninja" mean? Does he inspire others? Or do you mean that he aspires to be a ninja, even though he has none of the magical jutsu abilities? And how important is it to mention the jumpsuit? It seems like a minor detail.

  • He can't perform magical jutsu abilities. The jumpsuit isn't really that important. -- 1989 20:28, 15 July 2017 (UTC)

    OK -- I tweaked the sentence accordingly. Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 20:34, 15 July 2017 (UTC)

I cut "before he awakens his Mangekyō Sharingan, an upgrade to the Sharingan from losing someone close by death": I think this would require even more explanation, and it's really not necessary to give more details about the book contents -- we can just say it was set shortly after Sasuke's fight with Itachi. Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 20:22, 15 July 2017 (UTC)

@Mike Christie: Fine by me. -- 1989 20:28, 15 July 2017 (UTC)

Proposed Infobox change

Does this image can be used as infobox image? Special:Diff/794972830 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Phoenix God (talk • contribs)

@Phoenix God: As you were told on your talk page, per guidelines the first volume of the manga is shown in the article to represent the initial release of the manga. -- 1989 08:18, 11 August 2017 (UTC)

@1989: I've read that guideline, but that guideline is for Books only. And this article is about anime, movies, games, databook, novels and even music.-- Phoenix God (talk) 08:25, 11 August 2017 (UTC)

@Phoenix God: Mostly this article is about the manga, which is a book. As the media franchise was born from the manga, that guideline stands with this article and anything manga related, whether the article talks about other media or not. -- 1989 08:29, 11 August 2017 (UTC)

@1989: Then, can you this place image on list of characters. -- Phoenix God (talk) 08:32, 11 August 2017 (UTC)

I'll leave that up to Tintor2 to decide, but for me, I don't find it necessary. There is already two images that show how the characters look in their young to teen years, and IMO this image is not all that special to warrant a replacement. -- 1989 08:35, 11 August 2017 (UTC)

@Phoenix God: I already told Phoenix God if he could post it in the character page. Seems better than the anime Shippuden image because it is art by Kishimoto rather than the anime staff.Tintor2 (talk) 13:37, 11 August 2017 (UTC)

@Tintor2: I further explained on his talk page why that isn't such a good idea. -- 1989 13:40, 11 August 2017 (UTC)

This show was aired on TV3 in Malaysia for both Naruto and Naruto Shippuden. I want to edit but i dont know how to put the country and tv channel in the box (want to earn some points so i can create a new page in wikipedia) Nurul23495 (talk) 19:06, 1 October 2017 (UTC)

Actually there are other animes that has aired in Malaysia that doesnt include in their English wikis like shana, Trinity blood, etc Nurul23495 (talk) 19:10, 1 October 2017 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 20 February 2018

Coolnaveen2602 (talk) 07:27, 20 February 2018 (UTC)I am a great fan of naruto and I would like to suggest some changes regarding the plot.

According to me, it becomes necessary to publish some minor changes. I assure you that i would bring out the necessary changes and you would like them. As per my thoughts and thinking it would improve the content. I hope you would allow my request and regarding the changes, you will see after I publish. Sorry for disturbance.

 Not done: Not a request. ToThAc (talk) 15:11, 20 February 2018 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 22 February 2018

Coolnaveen2602 (talk) 11:54, 22 February 2018 (UTC)

I request you to please allow me to edit the plot of Naruto. I am a big fan of Naruto and I think I would be able to improve the content.

 Not done: this is not the right page to request additional user rights. You may reopen this request with the specific changes to be made and someone will add them for you, or you can wait until you are autoconfirmed and edit the page yourself. DRAGON BOOSTER ★ 13:49, 22 February 2018 (UTC)

Article for Jashinism (the actual religion, not Naruto)

I find it very disturbing that the only information that comes up when searching for a religion is an article to a children's show. The religion originates from Japan and has enough attention there for Hashimoto to know about it. I myself have gathered a bunch of information on the topic. I don't know if it's enough, but the only known text on Jashinism (written by Buddhist priests/monks in 1963) Inshi to Jashin has yet to be translated. Would other people be willing to help me get information together and work on an article? — Preceding unsigned comment added by ChimericalPhoenix (talk • contribs) 15:06, 9 April 2018 (UTC)

Jashin is completely fictional and is only featured during Hidan and Kakuzu's arc. The religion is further explored in the novel Konoha Shinden but it doesn't develop anything. Furthermore, the Naruto wikia just compares it with the thuggee cult but Kishimoto hasn't explained in any guidebook if he aimed to criticze cults based on the character's dialogues. If I remember correctly, there is another religion related the ninja's origins but it has not been further explored other than some questions in Road to Boruto.Tintor2 (talk) 15:43, 9 April 2018 (UTC)

Jutsu

Where is justu or techniques page for Naruto Lisolethu (talk) 12:00, 25 August 2018 (UTC)

@Lisolethu:The article had to be deleted per WP:Fancruft. You can still read about jutsus on the Naruto wikia though.Tintor2 (talk) 14:48, 25 August 2018 (UTC)

May i ask why it was deleted Lisolethu (talk) 17:28, 25 August 2018 (UTC)

@Lisolethu: The article dealed with a lot of in-universe information that that goes within fancruft. See the guideline. Naruto's Rasengan, Ransenshuriken, among other moves are now explained in the character articles instead. In case you are disappointed with this (which I understand) you could join the Narutowikia that has an article for every move.Tintor2 (talk) 17:31, 25 August 2018 (UTC)

But it is not explained in detail in character article Lisolethu (talk) 17:38, 25 August 2018 (UTC)

That's the problem with francruft. We can't explain every detail of a jutsu like why Sasuke needs to activate the Sharingan to perform a Chidori. We only have to show most prominent parts of the Jutsu and how it affects the character.Tintor2 (talk) 23:20, 25 August 2018 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 22 September 2018

tatti khan naruto kute ka bacha hai Awesomemanisawesome (talk) 14:00, 22 September 2018 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Hhkohh (talk) 15:09, 22 September 2018 (UTC)

Original run

Weekly Shonen Jump #1562 (No. 43, 1999) was released on September 20, 1999 so please change:
Infobox: "Original run September 21, 1999 – November 10, 2014" to ""Original run September 20, 1999 – November 10, 2014"
Media, Manga: "Naruto was published in Shueisha's magazine, Weekly Shōnen Jump from September 21, 1999 (No. 43), to November 10, 2014 (No. 50)." to "Naruto was published in Shueisha's magazine, Weekly Shōnen Jump from September 20, 1999 (No. 43), to November 10, 2014 (No. 50)." 176.175.61.47 (talk) 22:27, 18 November 2018 (UTC)

 Not done The source provided is not reliable. See WP:UGC for more information. -- 1989 (talk) 00:05, 19 November 2018 (UTC)

Well then what is your source about it being released on September 21, 1999? Issues are released two weeks before their cover date, front cover of issue #1562 indicates a cover date for October 4, 1999, please review my edit request. 176.175.61.47 (talk) 03:03, 19 November 2018 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. — LeoFrank  ^Talk 12:44, 25 November 2018 (UTC)

References

Edit request

This part underneath "Conclusion" Needs to be removed for 3 reasons. 1) Kishimoto has confirmed this isn't true. 2) It's a pointless sentence that doesn't add anything and 3) It's just more shipping garbage "Kishimoto chose Hinata Hyuga as Naruto's romantic partner from the early stages of the manga, since Hinata had always respected and admired Naruto even before the series' beginning, and Kishimoto felt this meant the two of them could build a relationship." — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gojirafan430 (talk • contribs) 06:37, 5 May 2019 (UTC)

 Not done: The sentence is supported by the source in the article. [8] NiciVampireHeart 08:40, 8 May 2019 (UTC)

Dr who

Here is a video [[9]], but unsure of the copyright. Now is anyone seriously saying this is not similar?Slatersteven (talk) 09:29, 19 July 2019 (UTC)

Gfycat is not a reliable source. 1989 (talk) 09:30, 19 July 2019 (UTC)

Are you saying the video is fake?Slatersteven (talk) 09:31, 19 July 2019 (UTC)

No, I’m saying Gfycat is not a reliable source. See WP:RS. 1989 (talk) 09:32, 19 July 2019 (UTC)

For what? that Lakertyans run in this way?Slatersteven (talk) 09:34, 19 July 2019 (UTC)

Correct. A statement with no source cannot stay on an article like this. 1989 (talk) 09:35, 19 July 2019 (UTC)

Actually a TV show is an RS for itself. Anyone who watches the show will see this running style. I cannot actually link to the clip, because it is copyright.Slatersteven (talk) 09:42, 19 July 2019 (UTC)

Not only without a source, it’s pointless to add. What is significant of adding that to the article? I don’t recall it being an inspirational thing to the creator of the manga. It seems trivial per Wikipedia:Trivial mentions and such things are unimportant. 1989 (talk) 09:47, 19 July 2019 (UTC)

That applies to article creation, not content (and yes it has a source, the actual show itself episode one). As to why add it, because its not new or original. The idea of "backwards airplane arms" is not unique of even invented by this manga (as it currently implies).Slatersteven (talk) 09:58, 19 July 2019 (UTC)

Nowhere does it says it applies to article creation only, and linking an episode is not a source. Adding a reference with a source does, and without the signature. Also, nowhere in the section does it say it’s an original move made by the creator. It’s a noteworthy move in the series that became popular. 1989 (talk) 10:10, 19 July 2019 (UTC)

But its clear your not going to allow this, fine. I cannot force you to accept it, only argue that it should be here.Slatersteven (talk) 09:59, 19 July 2019 (UTC)

@Slatersteven: Never assume bad faith in Wikipedia. 1989 has provided responses in the polite manners and provided guidelines in regards to why such content cannot be allowed.Tintor2 (talk) 14:35, 19 July 2019 (UTC)

I am not assuming bad faith, they have made it clear they will not allow this, how is it bad faith to say that? Policy allows the use of a TV shows actual footage as an RS for what the show is showing, I have said the show shows this running style in use. Also the Policy he misapplies is not in fact a policy, but an essay. So none of the objections to inclusion seem valid (and are not based upon policy).Slatersteven (talk) 14:41, 19 July 2019 (UTC)

An essay that references pages that are upon policy. 1989 (talk) 17:52, 19 July 2019 (UTC)

@Slatersteven: You are the one making the claim that there is a connection between the two. Such claims require reliable sources in order to comply with Wikipedia's No original research. Unless you find a reliable source directly stating that there is a connection between the two, it does not belong on Wikipedia. —Farix (t | c) 10:32, 20 July 2019 (UTC)

Nickelodeon

If I remember right I think there was a cartoon version of Naruto on Nickelodeon around like 2008 or so but it was different from the anime version but had the same logo and characters but it had different episodes form the anime and art work was different — Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.222.180.90 (talk) 14:53, 27 August 2019 (UTC) Also, why is this page listed in the category "Television censorship in the UK"? no evidence, surely??? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2001:8003:F04D:5A01:7D28:2F86:2731:97C7 (talk) 11:22, 10 December 2019 (UTC)

This would require a reliable source per WP:Verifiability.Tintor2 (talk) 16:38, 27 August 2019 (UTC)

Ninja rankings

Why isn't anything about the ninja rank names not mentioned in the plot at least? I don't think references are required in fictional stories, but I would replace things like "Naruto becomes a ninja" to "..becomes a genin, "the elite ninja Kakashi" to "jonin Kakashi", and "..advance to a higher rank and take on more difficult missions.." to "...a higher rank, chunin.." It would give much more context.--92.244.17.51 (talk) 13:35, 3 March 2019 (UTC)

What are u saying i understand nothing Carol mazibuko (talk) 09:49, 5 May 2020 (UTC)

U should try to add other characters pictures Drawertsotetsi (talk) 23:51, 11 May 2020 (UTC)

Images count as non free content. Unless there is a fight scene or something like that that earns attention in the prose, there is no need to add. The characters already have their own list for this.Tintor2 (talk) 01:35, 12 May 2020 (UTC)

Rewriting section about the conclusion

The section about the conclusion’s development in production is interesting, and perhaps notable, but is poorly written. Bert303 (talk) 07:50, 19 September 2019 (UTC)

Yep. Copyediting is the best choice.Tintor2 (talk) 17:04, 19 September 2019 (UTC)

I agree with this. It is really poorly written. HANZHIZOU (talk) 14:32, 16 June 2020 (UTC)

I tried trimming it a bit and rearrange.Tintor2 (talk) 15:38, 16 June 2020 (UTC)

It is extremely poorly written -- also, the points of plot references in it are not the conclusion of Naruto. As the first sentence states, the conclusion was with Naruto & Sasuke. It for some reason backtracks multiple hundred episodes to include the fight against Nagato/Pain, and a bunch of random fragment sentences. Please remove this section. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2604:2000:F18D:5A00:1D7:6D5A:C8DB:63D6 (talk) 06:00, 4 July 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 9 August 2020

I think it would be appropriate to also mention the name of his father, changing "the leader of Konoha, The Fourth Hokage(along with his wife...." to "the leader of Konoha, The Fourth Hokage, Namikaze Minato(along with his wife...." under subheading Part 1....leaving out the father's name is weird since all other major characters are named there. EditorByChoice (talk) 10:12, 9 August 2020 (UTC)

That might be unfitting cos it would mean tell the entire plan of how Obito attacked them after being treated by Madara. Further details about the plot would be count as wp:fancruft or wp:plot. Naruto's heritage does seem more appropiate for his character article than the plot section based on how editors treated when dealing with FA review in a similar fashion to how Itachi's assassination is more detailed in his article and Sasuke's.Tintor2 (talk) 19:41, 26 October 2020 (UTC)

The Shipping Wars

I mean seriously, why is there nothing about the NaruSaku-NaruHina ship wars? It is practically common knowledge not just across the population of Naruto fans but otakus in general. I myself ended up coming to the wiki page coz I've never watched it & I couldn't remember which of them ended up being canon, so much was the chaos about it. I'd say the topic deserves at least a couple lines in the Reception if not a whole section by itself, especially considering the mangaka got death threats over it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 49.36.119.219 (talk) 19:15, 4 January 2021 (UTC)

Probably cos it has nothing to do with the series. It's really common in fictional works. The focus on romance is only mentioned in the articles from the Last and the couple.Tintor2 (talk) 19:18, 4 January 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 15 February 2021

72.27.33.75 (talk) 15:28, 15 February 2021 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Best, DanCherek (talk) 15:49, 15 February 2021 (UTC)

Genres

User @1989: removed the genres listed in the article, a move I don't agree with. Martial arts was sourced by two reliable sources but they were removed and changed for comedy because Viz Media, the official series' publisher, uses said genre. While it is true that Naruto has comedy elements, it is not one of the most notable elements of the series, or at least it is definitely not more a comedy series than the average Weekly Shōnen Jump action series. Also, Viz Media doesn't always tend to use the correct tags for their series, for example: They tagged Berserk: The Golden Age Arc as sci-fi, a genre that is not usually used by websites when they talk about it, or they also uses "Family" for Hikaru no Go, when I don't see how that could even be a genre. Per MOS:A&M, we should use the three most relevant genres, and martial arts is more representative than comedy, even if the official website uses other tag. - Xexerss (talk) 00:07, 21 February 2021 (UTC)

References

• I personally think the Viz Media source is enough to state the three genres the manga belongs to. It should not take three sources to do that. Articles like Dragon Ball (manga), One Piece, and Bleach (manga) follow this. The note with the genres parameter states to not change the genres based on personal interpretations. It seems they were able to bypass this by finding sources to fit their ideas on how the genres should be. Based on that, I oppose the change they are suggesting. 1989 (talk) 00:29, 21 February 2021 (UTC)

Personal interpretations mean adding genres without sources, based exclusively on what someone could think what the series is about. Adding sources that support what genre the series belongs to is not a personal interpretation. And that those three series use Viz website to source their genres doesn't mean that Viz Media is the only valid source. Also, per WP:PSTS, we should prioritize secondary sources, Viz Media is a primary source, and while it is not wrong to use it for basic facts like genres, it is not correct to take their word as an absolute just because they are the official publisher. - Xexerss (talk) 00:39, 21 February 2021 (UTC)

1989 you haven't given any rationale for your removal aside from just not wanting to add another source. That isn't an argument. If you disagreed with martial arts or felt the sources weren't reliable then there would be something to discuss. Add martial arts and just combine comedy with fantasy into comic fantasy. I believe people take the "Genres should be based on what reliable sources list them as and not on personal interpretations. Limit of the three most relevant genres in accordance with MOS:A&M." note way too literal. It is not a hard rule that there can only be 3; if you guys wanna put both martial arts and comedy bringing the total to 4 that is perfectly ok. Everything should be a case by case basis using common sense or, especially when there might be a dispute, "personal interpretations"/opinions to decide what the most relevant are. Considering the entire series is about fighting using the martial art of ninjutsu, I'm definitely of the opinion that the martial arts genre should not be omitted. Xfansd (talk) 03:22, 21 February 2021 (UTC)

I'm of the idea that three genres are enough and while I don't agree with labeling Naruto as a comedy, if it is sourced by reliable websites, I can't oppose it. Anyway, I just think it's rude to have the genres removed and simply impose the idea of how this genre system should work instead of bringing it to discussion on the talk page in the first place. - Xexerss (talk) 04:08, 21 February 2021 (UTC)

Splitting the infobox

I oppose splitting the infobox. The infobox should be at the top of the article (not in the middle) to make it easy for the reader to get the information they search for. All the anime-related and manga-related articles put the infobox at the top and the "Anime television series" section has always been a part of the main infobox and never was separated. So why this article in particular should be different? Shorouq★The★Super★ninja2 (talk) 22:41, 13 March 2021 (UTC)

I don't know the reason behind that decision or if there was a discussion about it beforehand. It is the only article with this splitting that I've seen. I agree that the infoboxes should include all media summary at the top of the article and I don't see a particular reason to have these kind of separations. - Xexerss (talk) 12:20, 14 March 2021 (UTC)

Before changes were made, the infobox was very long and desperately needed trimming similar to One Piece. Infoboxes should not be cluttered with information, it should be compacted and easier for the reader to read, especially for a featured article. That said, I do not support bringing the infobox back where it was. 1989 (talk) 16:25, 14 March 2021 (UTC)

User:1989 you shouldn't have made this decision by yourself without having it discussed on the talk page. You made it harder for the reader to find the information they looking for. Even if the infobox is too long, it still summarizes the information that is hard to find in the article, this is what the infoboxes are made for. By shrinking the infobox and making it smaller you are forcing the reader to search in a very long article for the information, and by directing them to another articles it makes it even harder.

You can use collapsed infobox section template to make a bit easier to read.

And the infoboxs are made to be at the top of the article not in the middle! Putting the infobox in the middle of the article is so confusing! Shorouq★The★Super★ninja2 (talk) 23:33, 16 March 2021 (UTC)

It seems you're not aware of the WP:BOLD guideline, nor WP:SHOUT. I strongly disagree with your view that's the animes and etc is "hard to find" and "they have to search for it". When you click on the links, the information you're looking for is right there, so I didn't "make it harder" to do anything. I don't understand how multiple infoboxes makes you confused, you don't even make any arguments to back it up. 1989 (talk) 06:16, 17 March 2021 (UTC)

My fifty cents to Superninja. Maybe it would help to create an article dedicated to the two animes Naruto and Naruto Shippuden in a similar fashion One Piece and Attack on Titan have. However, obtaining material for such articles can be quite difficult.Tintor2 (talk) 12:22, 17 March 2021 (UTC)

Answer question: Is Disney XD ended on 98 epiosdes?

CORRECT! This channel is ended on 98 episodes on November 5, 2011. And please do not put 97 episodes this is not ended on October 8, i really hates when peoples are idiots knowing about and saying 'Is the channel ended on 97 or 98 episodes?' (And then) '97 episodes correct' (INCORRECT!) when is finally news says in August, 2019, it was edited by GalaxyFighter55. If you do edited ended on 97 episodes again, we will be reverted edits. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.82.119.167 (talk) 11:58, 20 March 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 28 April 2021

I want to add some videos form the anime so that it would make people understand and visualize it better! Chiro 2001 (talk) 11:24, 28 April 2021 (UTC)

Videos are copyrighted material. We could add an image that would stand out within the prose but that's hard to find. See Masashi Kishimoto's Jackie Chan inspired move as an example of outstanding image.Tintor2 (talk) 11:34, 28 April 2021 (UTC)

 Not done: We can't include copyrighted content unless it meets fair use criteria. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 11:50, 28 April 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 30 April 2021

The quote in the "Naruto Run" section has an extra comma in it (which does not exist in the cited source). It should end with "Let's see them aliens.", not "Let's see them, aliens."

If a quote is poorly written grammatically we can't correct them. Instead we could use sic.Tintor2 (talk) 13:49, 30 April 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 31 July 2021

change The story is told in two parts – the first set in Naruto's pre-teen years, and the second in his teens to The story is told in two parts-the first part happened before Naruto's puberty, and the second part happened when he was a teenager. 24.90.177.211 (talk) 17:33, 31 July 2021 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. ––𝗙𝗼𝗿𝗺𝗮𝗹𝗗𝘂𝗱𝗲^(talk) 19:28, 31 July 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 31 July 2021 (2)

change 写輪眼 to 血轮眼 24.90.177.211 (talk) 17:48, 31 July 2021 (UTC)

 Not done. I'm pretty sure the former is correct. ◢  Ganbaruby!  (talk) 01:11, 1 August 2021 (UTC)

More information required .

please put up more information about Naruto tv series. GoodkidX (talk) 06:33, 23 August 2021 (UTC)

But what? This is an article primarily focused on the manga.Tintor2 (talk) 11:59, 23 August 2021 (UTC)