Talk:Nayak (title)

Merging

I propose to merge the page Naidu with this article. There is no necessity to keep a seperate page for the article Naidu. The information on Naidu page is mentioned in this article as well.

--= No ||| Illusion = (talk) 13:24, 19 August 2010 (UTC)Mayasutra

I too second this request.Naidu/Naicker is nothing but a regional variation of Nayak title.-Raghavan(Talk) 15:13, 19 August 2010 (UTC)

Naidu denotes a different social grouping and in a different region.. It does not denote the Naidu term in present days Social structure although both of them might have shared the same origins.. Nayaka is a more kannada, Oriya and Marathi term... Naidu is a Telugu word... both are different profession but also denote different social groupings in difeerent states.. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Panel1 (talk • contribs) 02:31, 1 March 2008 (UTC)

The naicker in tamilnadu has moved in mediveal period and have considerable difference with the naidus in andhra, so this article should no be merged Ramkumaran7 08:30, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

Wrong Notion To Merge Naidu With Nayak:
It is highly unwarranted to merge Naidu with Nayak . Naidu is the CASTE NAME of Telugu people belonging to Kapu caste(Balija Naidu,Telaga and Ontari) of Andhra Pradesh,Tamil Nadu,Karnataka,Kerala,Maharashtra,Orissa,Chattisgarh etc.This NAIDU CASTE people represent about 25% of the population of Andhra Pradesh. The term Naidu is also used as a title by this major caste as well as by some other Telugu castes. It is nonsensical to jumble up the Telugu Kapu caste name with Nayak which (the latter)barely has any thing to do with the former.Though Balija Nayaka (Balija Naidu/Kapu/Telaga/Ontari)) kings of Madurai and Thanjavur Telugu dynasties were called as Nayak kings(short form of Nayaka),there is nothing in common between NAIDU and Nayaks of different castes from different provinces of India. Naidu word exclusively belongs to Telugu people and hence there is no compelling reason or justification to Merge Naidu with Nayak.Undoubtedly merging of these two would complicate things unnecessarily .True meaning of each entity would prevail only if they are uncoupled at the earliest. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.177.234.74 (talk) 02:59, 12 September 2008 (UTC)

nayak in nepal

"nayak" a surname is also found in the terai area of nepal.they belong to the "suri" caste and have similar culture as that of "teli", "kalwar" .originally businessmen they now are spread all over the terai region .marraiges are allowed "arranged" in "suri","teli" and "kalwar" castes. Badri nayak a student in "Nepal Engineering College,Nepal" has edited this section on behalf of his caste. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 116.90.224.116 (talk) 12:29, 15 June 2009 (UTC)

Nayar(Nair)

I think Nair should be added to this list,Nair is derived from word Nayak,used by military and aristrocratic community in kerala.(books?id=9mR2QXrVEJIC&printsec=frontcover&dq=malabar+manual&hl=en&ei=X2OmTvyUK8fSrQfv-8G5DQ&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CDEQ6AEwAA#v=snippet&q=nayar&f=false) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 117.206.63.239 (talk) 07:33, 25 October 2011 (UTC)

rephrasing

Please, can someone rephrase this article's sentence in proper English and into a simpler form (the last part doesn't make sense at all, see bolded section)? --› "In south Kanara of Karnataka state the 96 kuli Maratha people (also known as marathi in the area) using common term Naik instead of using their surnames like More jadhav, yadhav, Madhav, shevade like on there are more than hundreds of surnames, they are having now they are also getting the scheduled tribe benefit although they belongs to kshatriya caste nayak in up brahmins." Toffanin (talk) 17:47, 26 December 2011 (UTC)

references

The following were listed in the References section:

• [3] Jains in the World (John E Cort)
• [4] The Tribes and Castes of Bombay (Reginald Edward Enthoven)
• [5] Rethinking India's Oral and Classical Epics (Alf Hiltebeitel)
• [6][8] The Tribes and Castes of the Central Provinces of India (R V Russell and R.B.H. Lai)
• [7] Removal of Untouchability (Vimal P. Shah)
• [9] A Study of the Political, Administrative, and Social Structure of the Kandyan Kingdom of Ceylon (Lorna Srimathie Dewaraja)
• [10] The Tribes and Castes of the Central Provinces of India (R.V.Russell)
• [11] At the Feet of the Goddess (Lynn Foulston)
• [12] Castes and Tribes of Southern India, Vol. 5; p. 138 (Edgar Thurston)
• [14] Balijakula Charithra(Kante Narayana Desai)
• [15] Hindus (Julius Lipner)

The info given here isn't enough to identify all of these books. More importantly, with no page numbers or indication what these reference, they don't help verify anything. Plus, without more info, I'm not certain that they're even reliable sources. So, that means it's time to start seriously trimming the article, maybe even stubbing it, until sources are found. I'll tag it, and give people time to find something useful. Qwyrxian (talk) 13:34, 22 February 2012 (UTC)

I have now stubbed the article. Information of this type is too contentious to leave in unsourced. If someone actually has sources and can verify that they are reliable, information can be re-added. Qwyrxian (talk) 23:33, 9 April 2012 (UTC)