Talk:Pump Up the Volume (film)

Golden Space Needle

I can't cite for this, but I believe that this film winning the Golden Space Needle Award was what led directly to a major change in the balloting for that award. The Golden Space Needle started out as something of a joke; it was mainly an audience popularity award, balloting was very informal, and studios began to realize it could easily be rigged through ballot-box stuffing, which is almost certainly what happened for this film. The next year they changed the system to one where audience members rate a single film at a time, voting only on their way out of the theater where they have just seen it. -- Jmabel | Talk 07:46, 8 November 2005 (UTC)

Goofs (or maybe not)

...you can hear the words "drug awareness" clearly, however during the actual interview when the guidance counselor says "drug awareness", Harry is talking at the same time, therefore this song could have not been created from the actual broadcast tape of the show.

Unless of course the mic and phoneline were for some reason panned to opposite stereo channels during the broadcast and the sample was taken from the channel carrying the telephone audio ! 87.113.68.35 17:58, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

The FCC announcing their arrival at a press conference and using brightly painted vans (and a helicopter) is a lot more implausable though.

The Internet

I'm entirely confused by the inclusion of this sentence, under Theatrical Release: "The imminent debut of the internet as the favored mode of expression for the teenage population would soon make the pirate radio antics of Mark Hunter seem quaint and dated by comparison." I took it out. This movie came out in 1990. What teenager was using the Internet in 1990? None, that I know of. That was completely out of place and pretty much untrue. So, I deleted it. Huzzah!

I don't know about anyone else, but I for one spent a TON of time on Bulletin Board Systems and on Prodigy. Perhaps the original writer meant that sort of thing? Most of the preteens & teens I knew were also using these services, and quite a few of my friends ran BBS's also. Just a thought. Pixiestix (talk) 07:10, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

list

what is wrong with that list? it pretty clearly falls under "a list style may be preferable to a long sequence within a sentence" - having a paragraph saying all the actors and their roles would be very awkward. i'll give it awhile in case anyone wants to disagree, then if not i'll take out that box. --dan (talk) 03:21, 28 April 2008 (UTC)

Actually, its really more of a need to make it a real list rather than a table. Per the Film MoS, it should be a real bulletted list with a short summary of each character. AnmaFinotera (talk) 03:36, 28 April 2008 (UTC)

okay i understand now. i thought you wanted it in like paragraph form, and that seemed ridiculous. --dan (talk) 00:52, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

bootleg/soundtrack

and while i'm here complaining, i also would like to put back in that paragraph about the bootleg soundtrack. it doesn't need a huge presence, but if it's out there i think that should be mentioned. thoughts? --dan (talk) 03:23, 28 April 2008 (UTC)

Unless it can be done with RELIABLE sources that do not link to copies of the bootleg, then no, it shouldn't be mentioned. AnmaFinotera (talk) 03:36, 28 April 2008 (UTC)

okay i googled and found nothing good for the bootleg, so i'll grant that. but now, why did you take out the entire (legit) soundtrack track listing? "per Film MoS and project consensus" but the MoS specifically says "If the soundtrack does not have a separate article and is included in the film article use the WikiProject Albums' Track listing guideline" which says to list it basically as it was. and, as it hasn't been discussed at all here, i don't know what consensus you are refering to. --dan (talk) 01:01, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

anyone opposed to putting the soundtrack track listing back in? (the real one, not the bootleg) --dan (talk) 07:43, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

Notability of the line, "Eat your cereal with a fork..."

I believe that Mark Hunter's (Christian Slater) line, "Eat your cereal with a fork and do your homework in the dark," is a notable one, worthy of mention in the article. Doniago disagrees and contends that there's no source for its notability. My evidence for its notability is:

1. The phrase is used in Don DeLillo's novel Libra in 1988, before the film was released. He quotes Weird Beard, a DJ, saying, "Eat your cereal with a fork. Do your homework in the dark. And trust your radio before you trust your mother." It appears on page 266, which is unfortunately not part of the book's preview on Amazon or books.google.com. However, the full text is available on The Internet Archive, although without page numbers.
   • Thus, the quotation relates to the theme of pirate radio found in Pump Up the Volume.
2. It is quoted in Amanda Palmer's song "Ukulele Anthem", which she explains on her tumblr. The DeLillo book is also mentioned in her blog post.
   • The full lyrics for "Ukulele Anthem" are available on Palmer's Bandcamp page. She re-works the DeLillo original line in interesting ways.

What do other folks think? --Jeremy Butler (talk) 22:32, 5 August 2020 (UTC)

I'd feel better about it if there were sources explicitly stating that the uses of the quote in the novel and song were inspired by the movie. Otherwise, for all we know someone randomly said the line in the presence of DeLillo and Palmer and they thought it was good enough to use in their work. We should have sources that make a direct connection between the film and the works in question, not our own interpolation, no matter how likely it may be.

I also question whether this belongs in the Plot section in particular, as it doesn't seem especially relevant to the plot. I think it would be more appropriate in a section discussing the legacy of the film, or In Popular Culture or such.

TL;DR, this seems like original research and a potential violation of WP:IPCV. DonIago (talk) 00:27, 6 August 2020 (UTC)