Talk:Soumen Mitra/GA1

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Nominator: Sohom Datta (talk · contribs) 13:31, 15 July 2024 (UTC)

Reviewer: Queen of Hearts (talk · contribs) 18:29, 16 July 2024 (UTC)

I'll hopefully get to this within the next few days. Queen of Hearts ^talk 18:29, 16 July 2024 (UTC)

@Queen of Hearts Friendly ping about this (even I forgot about it for a while) :) Sohom (talk) 09:41, 14 August 2024 (UTC)

@Sohom Datta, I completely forgot about this; I'll get to it soon. Thanks, Queen of Hearts (talk) 15:56, 14 August 2024 (UTC)

Well-written

• Throughout his career he served as a police superintendent in Barrackpore, Howrah, and Murshidabad uses an Oxford comma, but the rest of the article doesn't

 Done Sohom (talk) 23:08, 24 August 2024 (UTC)

• Infobox spells the city he was born in "Calcutta", while the body spells it "Kolkata". I don't know what the guidance is on Indian place names like these, but it should be consistent

 Done, switched to Kolkata which is the officially recognized spelling Sohom (talk) 23:08, 24 August 2024 (UTC)

• Born in 1961 in Kolkata, Mitra was educated at St. Xavier's Collegiate School, Kolkata, Presidency College, Kolkata and Jawaharlal Nehru University, New Delhi, completing his BA, MA and M.Phil opaque initalisms that create an WP:EGG issue

 Fixed Sohom (talk) 23:08, 24 August 2024 (UTC)

• In 2015, he helped restore the Police Training School which had previously served as one India's first mental asylum → In 2015, he helped restore the Police Training School which had previously served as one of India's first mental asylums or something along those lines

 Done Sohom (talk) 23:08, 24 August 2024 (UTC)

• He is credited to have started the Chandradeep Mela in Hariharpara, an area known for its communal violence which helped stabilize the atmosphere – the communal violence helped stabilize the atmosphere? this sentence doesn't make sense
  • (ah, reading it again, I now understand – there should be a comma at the end of "an area known for its communal violence" and the article should clarify what type of thing the Chandradeep Mela is. a community center? a group?)
    • (also consider linking communal violence)
      • Added the comma, clarified and wikilinked communal violence

Verifiable

• lead and infobox say he was born 16 December 1961, but the body just says "1961"

 Fixed Sohom (talk) 23:08, 24 August 2024 (UTC)

• tidy cites aren't a GA requirement, but cite 3 has "MP, Team" as the author and cites 3 and 16 have a website as the "work" (should be changed to "Millenium Post" and "India TV" respectively) and the article is inconsistent on if works are linked
• Spotcheck
  • Ref 3 ("Soumen Mitra becomes new Kolkata Police Commissioner"):
    • none of Born in 1961 in Kolkata, Mitra was educated at St. Xavier's Collegiate School, Kolkata, Presidency College, Kolkata and Jawaharlal Nehru University, New Delhi(→), completing his Bachelor of Arts, Master of Arts and Master of Philosophy. A history graduate, he qualified for the Civil Services examinations and was inducted into the Indian Police Service is verified by this or cite 4 AFAICT

That's on me, I should double checked the previous work done by other editors. Added two cites that back up the facts.

• • • Later, he was also put in charge of the Criminal Investigation Department of the West Bengal Police isn't verified by this or cite ten
      • The two sources mention he was the ADG (Additional Director General) which is the highest office of the CID (criminal investigation department). While it's not explicitly mentioned, occupying the highest office would imply that he was "in charge" of the dept

Broad

fine

Neutral

fine

Stable

looks stable

Illustrated

no images (and can't easily find any), so automatic pass

Miscellaneous

• term start in the infobox has an unnecessary cite; this is already verified in the body

 Done Sohom (talk) 05:05, 10 September 2024 (UTC)

• is it necessary to specify the predecessors and successors were IPS officers? Commissioner of the Kolkata Police tells me that they're all IPS, and if Vineet Kumar Goyal wasn't, this is better explained in the body than the infobox

Removed Sohom (talk) 05:05, 10 September 2024 (UTC)

• "rank" param is unnecessary in Infobox police officer; already in Infobox officeholder

   Not done, it seems that the rank in {{Infobox officeholder}} puts it in "Military career" Sohom (talk) 05:05, 10 September 2024 (UTC)

  Sorry, I meant that Mitra being a Director General of Police was implied by Infobox officeholder stating he was Police Commissioner of Kolkata (or at least that's my understanding), so Infobox police officer having the rank is unnecessary clutter. Charlotte (Queen of Hearts • talk) 22:57, 10 September 2024 (UTC)

  Ah got it, fixed :) Sohom (talk) 12:50, 11 September 2024 (UTC)

• "service years" in infobox should have an ndash

 Done Sohom (talk) 05:05, 10 September 2024 (UTC)

• "Education" and "Alma mater" would be better as {{ubl}} (or {{hlist}} for the former) in the infobox

 Done Sohom (talk) 05:05, 10 September 2024 (UTC)

• See also section is unnecessary, the article already links to a list of police commissioners of Kolkata and it's weird to arbitrarily link to one

 Done Sohom (talk) 13:11, 12 September 2024 (UTC)

Good Article review progress box Criteria: 1a. prose () 1b. MoS () 2a. ref layout () 2b. cites WP:RS () 2c. no WP:OR () 2d. no WP:CV () 3a. broadness () 3b. focus () 4. neutral () 5. stable () 6a. free or tagged images () 6b. pics relevant () Note: this represents where the article stands relative to the Good Article criteria. Criteria marked are unassessed

@Queen of Hearts: any update on this review? It looks like the last of the comments were addressed about a week ago and I just wanted to check in on this while I've been going through some older reviews. Thanks! Fritzmann (message me) 21:09, 19 September 2024 (UTC)

Hello @Fritzmann2002, I apologize to all parties involved for how long this has taken, but I just need to finish spotchecking and this can be wrapped up. Thanks, Charlotte (Queen of Hearts • talk) 19:20, 21 September 2024 (UTC)

No need to apologize and feel free to take your time :) It's been nice to come back from time to time to fix issues that have been identified. Sohom (talk) 04:18, 22 September 2024 (UTC)

Status query

Queen of Hearts, Sohom Datta, where does this review stand? It's been open for four months now, and coming up on two months since the last posts on this page. Any chance it can get moving and be completed soon? Thanks! BlueMoonset (talk) 02:56, 17 November 2024 (UTC)