Talk:Thai Massage (film)

Requested move 26 March 2023

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: Moved to Thai Massage (film), and Thai Massage redirected to Thai massage, with a hatnote. No such user (talk) 11:30, 3 April 2023 (UTC)

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Thai Massage → Thai Massage (film) – The traditional practice of Thai massage is considered a proper noun and capitalised by several sources (e.g. [1], [2]), and thus in this case the film is not the primary topic even of the capitalised form, and WP:DIFFCAPS is not adequate for differentiating the topics. Thai Massage should redirect to Thai massage with a hatnote to the film. (Contested at RMTR by Station1 and Born2cycle. Paul_012 (talk) 07:38, 26 March 2023 (UTC)

• Strong support per WP:DIFFCAPS, evidence of Google Books shows that Thai Massage is frequently capitalised, and the obscure 2022 Hindi film is barely mentioned in any English sources. There's no point having DIFFCAPS if people aren't going to check GBooks. In ictu oculi (talk) 07:45, 26 March 2023 (UTC)
• Oppose per WP:DIFFCAPS. It's true that the therapy is occasionally written with a capital M, but lower case seems to be more common, at least judging by the refs in the article. Lower case is also WP house style for that type of topic. Since pageviews aren't tremendously greater for the therapy over the film,[3] it seems likely that a significant majority of readers bothering to type a capital M are looking for the film, meaning the therapy is not primary for the capitalized term. It's also likely that some readers not bothering to type the capital M might also be looking for the film. In any case, since hatnotes have now been added to both articles, there would also be no additional benefit to having a 2-entry dab page. Station1 (talk) 08:12, 26 March 2023 (UTC)
• Oppose. Gbooks reflects title case in titles of books, chapters and sections covering the practice, so frequent capitalization found there is not as significant as some may think. Anyone bothering to capitalize Massage when searching on WP is likely looking for the film, not the practice. This is a quintessential example of where DIFFCAPS does, and should, apply. —В²C ☎ 09:42, 26 March 2023 (UTC)
• Strong Support, the massage technique remains the prime topic lowercased, uppercased, or misspelled. DIFFCAPS should not be used to break or end-around long-term historical significance. Randy Kryn (talk) 13:32, 26 March 2023 (UTC)
• Strong Support precisely per In ictu oculi and Randy Kryn. It is trivially easy to find works referencing the technique as "Thai Massage", in running text in that capitalization (see also [4], [5]). BD2412 T 20:10, 26 March 2023 (UTC)
• Leaning support the generic meaning has slightly more views (8,370) than the film (6,216)[[6]] perhaps DAB? Crouch, Swale (talk) 16:07, 27 March 2023 (UTC)
• Support per nom. Capitalisation is too common to rely on it for disambiguation. -- Necrothesp (talk) 10:27, 29 March 2023 (UTC)

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