Talk:Tricycle
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Patented by M.A. Cherry?
editI've read the trike was patented by M.A. Cherry. Anybody confirm, with year? Include it? Trekphiler 04:35, 30 December 2005 (UTC)
- Can you provide any kind of citation? adamrice 15:15, 30 December 2005 (UTC)
- That's why I'm asking... Trekphiler 17:22, 25 August 2007 (UTC) (Boy, really on top of this one, huh?)
- I found an image of his patent at https://www.google.com/patents/US382351
- UNITED STATES MATTHEW A. CHERRY, OF WASHINGTON, DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA.
- SPECIFICATION forming part of Letters Patent. No. 382,351, dated May 8, 1888.
- Application filed October l 1887. Serial No. 252,473.
- To all whom it may concern:
- Be it known that I, MATTHEW A. CHERRY, a citizen of the United States, residing at Washton, in the District of Columbia, have invented certain new and useful Improvements in Velocipedes; ...
- It might have three wheels, a steerable one in front, and two in the rear on an axle with cranks to be driven by treadles, but I cannot tell for sure from the available text or drawings. Anyone else? -AndrewDressel (talk) 21:56, 28 August 2017 (UTC)
- The date, 1888, is pretty late to the game, however. By then McCammon (1884), Linley (1885), and Swift (1886) had all introduced chain driven safety bicycles. -AndrewDressel (talk) 22:02, 28 August 2017 (UTC)
- The answer to this question is either published in secondary sources, or it isn't. If it isn't, then Wikipedia's role is to leave it unanswered. It's very misleading for anyone to see us checking primary sources like patents as if we are in a position to research who invented what first. Those judgements belong to secondary sources only. --Dennis Bratland (talk) 22:07, 28 August 2017 (UTC)
- Oh. Well then never mind. Sorry I looked into it. -AndrewDressel (talk) 12:22, 29 August 2017 (UTC)
- I didn't mean to sound so dramatic. Just felt like it had to be said. --Dennis Bratland (talk) 17:02, 29 August 2017 (UTC)
- I was interested to read about it, although as you say he was pretty late to the game. Pinkbeast (talk) 19:38, 29 August 2017 (UTC)
- Oh. Well then never mind. Sorry I looked into it. -AndrewDressel (talk) 12:22, 29 August 2017 (UTC)
- The answer to this question is either published in secondary sources, or it isn't. If it isn't, then Wikipedia's role is to leave it unanswered. It's very misleading for anyone to see us checking primary sources like patents as if we are in a position to research who invented what first. Those judgements belong to secondary sources only. --Dennis Bratland (talk) 22:07, 28 August 2017 (UTC)
- I found an image of his patent at https://www.google.com/patents/US382351
- That's why I'm asking... Trekphiler 17:22, 25 August 2007 (UTC) (Boy, really on top of this one, huh?)
Tricycle or bicycle?
edithttp://www.machinedesign.com/ASP/viewSelectedArticle.asp?strArticleId=58742&strSite=MDSite&catId=0 --CylePat 17:27, 31 December 2005 (UTC)
- As usual, a solution to a non-problem which will inhibit the learning of the very skill which they are supposed to learn. Take off the training wheels, take off the pedals, lower the saddle. Let them scoot until they get the idea of steering. The pedals on, raise the saddle and off you go. It took 45 minutes to teach my youngest to ride a bike. - Just zis Guy, you know? [T]/[C] AfD? 17:34, 31 December 2005 (UTC)
I tried to teach my late mother to ride a bike, telling her to turn the handlebars right when you want to turn right. On reflection, that is wrong. To turn right you turn to the left slightly, which causes the bike to bank to the right, then you quickly turn right into the turn until completion. :-( WonderWheeler (talk) 06:58, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
Picture of children's tricycle needed
editA picture of children's tricycle would be nice to add to the other forms of tricycles allready pictured since that is what I think allot of people think of when they hear the word tricycle. --Cab88 18:17, 19 January 2006 (UTC)
- is there such thing as request for photo's. --CyclePat 02:02, 21 January 2006 (UTC)
- Yah! those who want a help out. user:CyclePat/wikipedia:request for media
humm... we could decide the name... request for images (RfI isn't taken)? request for photo (RfP)? dunno? any hints? --CyclePat 02:36, 21 January 2006 (UTC)
- I have no way of getting a picture of a children's tricycle either, but I definitely think the article should have one. There should also be mention of children's tricycles in the article. Zweifel 18:44, 18 August 2007 (UTC)
I agree. In fact, this article doesn't describe children's tricycles at all, even though quite a few people only ride tricycles as kids. Bigpeteb (talk) 20:11, 17 September 2008 (UTC)
The Tricycle
editI wonder, with three "other uses" at the top of the article now, should a disambig page be created? The top of this article could be made a bit less cluttered, listing instead "This is about the three-wheeled vehicle. For other uses, see Tricycle (disambiguation)." What do people think? LordAmeth 11:40, 5 July 2007 (UTC)
I think there should be mention made of the Tortera طرطيرة a rickety motorized tricycle used at least in Syria.
Tricar
editShould the likes of Moggie be included, since they were (technically) tricycles? Also the mod French delivery vans? Trekphiler 09:22, 6 September 2007 (UTC)
The Morgan 3-wheeler would be a great addition for those interested in history. WonderWheeler (talk) 06:54, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
Picture?
editWhy is there a picture of an aurora for hand & foot trike? Is this some sort of mistake or am I just missing the relevance? --BennyD (talk) 21:31, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
I think someone was trying to show the full spectrum of possibilities. Although it is funny that the most commmon or regular image of a child on their trike is not shown anywhere. WonderWheeler (talk) 06:52, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
Competing Category
editThere are two competing pages that cover much of the same info
1. Three_wheeled_vehicle (aka three wheel car ) 2. Tricycle
While trying to clarify "tadpole" I tried to edit both items above to provide links to eachother.
I don't necessarily like the name tadpole and it is not generally understood. My particular design for a tadpole is a tetrahedron shape with a sharp edge on the front, horizontally , a square section in the middle, and a sharp edge on the rear, vertically. More efficient than a teardrop, and not the same "shape" as a real tadpole IMHO WonderWheeler (talk) 09:51, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
differentials and gearing?
editit would be helpful to include (at least) a paragraph about solutions to the problems associated with two drive wheels needing to turn at different rotational speeds. cars and motor trikes usually solve this with differentials.
i've seen some trikes which have only one of two rear wheels driven. are there other solutions? do any pedal trikes use differentials? what are the trade-offs?
- Some (upright) trikes do have both rear wheels driven, either through a paired freewheel arrangement or a diff. My Ken Rogers is 2WD. Advantage is that they are less affected by the camber of the road; disadvantages include weight and complexity. Mr Larrington (talk) 17:12, 5 October 2014 (UTC)
note that tadpole designs usually eliminate this problem altogether by using only one rear drive wheel.
this might seem like an overly technical detail for an encyclopedia, but i think this is a key mechanical difference between bicycles and tricycles and deserves at least a mention.
(i'd love to be able to contribute this, but i don't have the information. (at least not yet.) i looked up this article hoping to find about this. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.248.248.11 (talk) 15:33, 20 July 2009 (UTC)
Tricycles in the Philiipines
editI added a redirect link to the lead section to the auto rickshaw. I understand that there was already a link in the disambiguation page, but I believe this alone is insufficient to avoid having articles concerning the public utility vehicle link here.
You see, to a person living in the Philippines, tricycles are auto rickshaws, period. However, the term "auto rickshaw" is virtually unknown there, as is tuk-tuk. They simply know them as tricycles. A quick check to the What Links Here page confirmed this: There were about 50 articles concerning Filipino provinces and municipalities that simply contained links to tricycle. Even the temple
contained such a link, as if this page should have been included in that template.
I've fixed most of these links and updated the auto rickshaw article to include tricycle as one of the aliases listed in the lead section, but unless there is also a prominent redirect in this page, this issue is likely to recur. Brog Likes Rocks (talk) 13:15, 9 May 2010 (UTC)
I have added a photo and description of an Indian trike but the editor had deleted it. Is there a preference to Philippine over Indian? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.90.197.139 (talk) 21:41, 28 December 2011 (UTC)
- Linking to offsite photos like that is discouraged. It's better to find a properly licensed photo and upload it to Commons. Or go to Wikipedia:Requested pictures and request an image there. --Dennis Bratland (talk) 22:14, 28 December 2011 (UTC)
law
editI learned that threewheeler drivers did not need a driving license in Great Britain, nor did they have to pay taxes. This rule was valid from the 1930s to the 1970s. A similiar law was given in Germany from 1928 on, while I do not know how long it was valid. Does anyone know further sources and would mind to add this info? --Traut (talk) 07:26, 22 December 2010 (UTC)
- UK three-wheelers were treated as motorcycles for the purposes of taxation and driver licencing. I'm a bit hazy on the details - i think there may have been some restriction concerning reverse gear as well. OTOH I don't think trike pilots are required to wear a helmet but ICBW. Mr Larrington (talk) 17:08, 5 October 2014 (UTC)
- In the UK in the 1950s a full motor-cycle licence included the right to drive a three wheeler which did not have a functioning reverse gear. It was possible to obtain plates which blanked off the reverse gear, at which point a car became a motor-bike. My father held a full motor-cycle license before he married, but when his first child (me) was on the way he bought a Reliant, blanked the reverse and drove it unaccompanied and without "L" plates. In due course he passed the car test and removed the blanking plate. Martin of Sheffield (talk) 21:56, 14 September 2015 (UTC)
- They never "became motor bikes". They became a three wheeler that you could drive on a motorbike licence. There is a difference. They were still taxed as cars rather than bikes, for one thing. Andy Dingley (talk) 22:43, 14 September 2015 (UTC)
- In the UK in the 1950s a full motor-cycle licence included the right to drive a three wheeler which did not have a functioning reverse gear. It was possible to obtain plates which blanked off the reverse gear, at which point a car became a motor-bike. My father held a full motor-cycle license before he married, but when his first child (me) was on the way he bought a Reliant, blanked the reverse and drove it unaccompanied and without "L" plates. In due course he passed the car test and removed the blanking plate. Martin of Sheffield (talk) 21:56, 14 September 2015 (UTC)
tread
editI'm removing the text stating that children's tricycles should have a textured tread for improved traction. For bicycles on pavement, a textured tread does not improve traction, and may degrade it.[1] --Fbfree (talk) 03:02, 19 July 2011 (UTC)
References
- ^ Brown, Sheldon. "Bicycle Tires and Tubes". Retrieved 19 July 2011.
driving the wheels
editAnybody who has been out the Far East must see the frequently hideous injuries caused by drive chains snapping and injuring riders and passengers. Any vehicle with a chain drive to only one wheel turns far tighter in one direction than the other making riding such a machine almost hazardous.
One other reason for the popularity of the Volkswagon trike conversion was the shaft drive incorporating a differential. This not only made turning in either direction a normal experience but without the chain was inherently safer.
These entries are reasonbly good descriptions but could it be made clearer which are the chain driven models and which are the much safer shaft drive vehicles.AT Kunene (talk) 16:59, 18 April 2012 (UTC)
Needing a list?
editPerhaps there should be a list of commercially manufactured tricycles? In Category:Tricycle I found mentions of "Catrike", "StreetStrider", and "TerraTrike". Some searching found "Greenspeed" (www.greenspeed.com.au), "HP Velotechnik" (www.hpvelotechnik.com), and "ICE" (www.icetrikes.co). I imagine there are others and people could be looking for information. 74.104.188.4 (talk) 05:00, 22 March 2018 (UTC)
- Wikipedia isn't a shopping guide. I know you find a lot of lists that look like shopping guides, but it's not supposed to be that way. --Dennis Bratland (talk) 06:31, 22 March 2018 (UTC)
This article is about human-powered vehicles with three wheels
editThere are two pictures of tricylces which do not belong to this article:
1) „An 19th-century tricycle in Paris, France“, which is steam-driven.
2) „HD Trike“, which is apparently a motorcycle. Dä Chronist (talk) 08:33, 29 January 2024 (UTC)