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Updates to Primary/Caucus Voting Age in the US

The current reference http://www.fairvote.org/primary_voting_at_age_17#facts_17_year_old_primary_voting has updated which states allow voting in primaries before age 18. For example, South Carolina now appears to allow voting in both primaries if someone will be 18 on or after the next general election http://www.scvotes.org/south_carolina_voter_registration_information. There are a few other states that changed, and I would update that section, but fairvote.org changed their map graphic. Now there are two separate maps for which states allow Democratic and Republican early voting. If we want one map, we might have to make our own graphic and constantly update it. Alexzork (talk) 22:19, 24 January 2016 (UTC)

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ithank you for enlightening me in the discussion of the voting age. I may be only 14 but i will soon be 16 and i hope to be mature enough to praticipate in being an active citizen and deciding who is going to be the leader of my country. I would be very pleased to know that I had an impact on who sucessful or unsucessful our country is doing.

Municipal election suffrage 16 in Germany (Berlin and Bremen)

Hi! i also have no idea about editing and don't want to mess things up, so here are the sources (constitutions) for the municipal elections in Germany (suffrage 16):
Berlin: http://www.berlin.de/rbmskzl/verfassung/abschnitt6.html (article 70)
Bremen: http://bremen.beck.de/default.aspx?vpath=bibdata%2fges%2fBrOBG%2fcont%2fBrOBG.P3.htm (paragraph 3)--130.92.9.57 (talk) 15:01, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

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Austria voting age 16

Hi there i don't know how to properly edit wikipedia (i don't want to make a mess), i just wanted to share with you that the voting age in austria has already been lowerd to 16. i hope someone can change this. Source: http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2007/06/05/europe/EU-POL-Austria-Voting-at-16.php —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.59.50.81 (talk) 22:33, 2 September 2008 (UTC)

Yee Yee Ireland boys

Map

An excellent map Jklamo, thanks a lot. --Ross UK 22:29, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

The map says that the minimum age to vote in Uzbekistan is 25, but the article says that is 18. As only the article have sources, I removed the map. - Eduardo Sellan III (talk) 04:22, 6 July 2011 (UTC)

I've changed Uzbekistan to green on the map, although the change may not show up immediately for you because of cacheing. - htonl (talk) 15:17, 6 July 2011 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2001:569:F986:6800:7404:4DA1:76BF:104B (talk)

Can we edit the colour scheme of the map? This gradient is difficult to see the difference on the map.

"Youngest of any country"

I don't see the need to make this remark for Iran, as the fact in question is easily discernable from the list itself. --Ross UK 21:25, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

Iraq

"Iraq: formerly 18 years of age; universal". Should it say "formally"? (If so, in what sense?) If not, what is the current minimum age? --21:12, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

Some recent amendments

We can be confident of the changes for the Isle of Man (reduced to 16) and Uzbekistan (25, whether or not recently changed) [1]. Iran's very disappointing increase to 18 has been ratified and is verifiable [2]; a shame as this was previously the most interesting factoid on the voting age.

The others are more doubtful. I can find no verification for municipal elections in Berlin, so that will have to go until a source can be found. I would dearly love a national reduction to 16 in the Netherlands to be true, even though I want the UK to be the first, but again there is no source. --Ross UK 22:29, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

Fixed typo

Found a typo, fixed it. Wolverineh8ter 23:51, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

Pictures!

If someone could find some appropriate images it would be much appreciated, as we're desperately in need of them. --Ross UK (talk) 18:58, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

Japan

Are any parties in Japan trying to lower the voting age?Andycjp (talk) 02:17, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

Rising the voting age

Maybe it should be noted, that there have been instances of rising the voting age. In Germany that voting age had been 20 since 1920. But after 1945 it was 21 (until 1970). And in the German State of Hesse the conservative government of Roland Koch raised the voting age for local elections from 16 back to 18. Martinwilke1980 (talk) 22:58, 31 August 2008 (UTC)

Lower v. Abolish

ASFAR as I know, NYRA is the only US organisation in favor of lowering the voting age. 75.118.170.35 (talk) 11:52, 30 January 2009 (UTC)

Voting age to 13

How about 13 to reduce the voting age? Can we have many agree arguments? --Jenpsh (talk) 14:35, 11 March 2009 (UTC)

Jenpsh, please see my proposal below concerning the issue of total abolition of any voting age limits.--N.Al-Saratan (talk) 21:40, 29 November 2009 (UTC)

Marginal note

In the article is written: The Czech Republic was early to act, reducing its age to 18 in 1946

In fact there was no subject with name ,,Czech republic in 1946". The state in current territory of the Czech Republic was called Czechoslovakia. Thats not the same only from juristical point of view, nor real-political. For more see the history of the Czech republic or article Czechoslovakia. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.102.8.53 (talk) 12:53, 16 April 2009 (UTC)

United Kingdom

I would question the factual accuracy of the list of organisations favouring a lowering of the voting age, especially in the case of the two major parties. -92.2.109.94 (talk) 10:40, 31 May 2009 (UTC)

I would concur. This list currently has every single major political party. Were this list accurate, surely the voting age would have been lowered already. Could anybody source it?Hrcolyer (talk) 21:21, 6 June 2009 (UTC)

Any chance that somebody can put, at the top of the "UK" section, what the voting age actually *is*, as opposed to how many times reducing it to 16 has been debated? One of the few times that I've come to wikipedia, and not found a well-referenced answer.

First democracies

"When the right to vote was first accorded in democracies the voting age was generally set at 21, or in some cases at an even higher level." - first democracy was ancient Greece. I', not really sure what age was there, but I think it will be not this. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.54.3.69 (talk) 11:58, 24 July 2009 (UTC)

Consider New Section: Total Abolition of Voting Age Limits

I would propose to add a new section discussing the total abolition of voting age limits. As far as I know the international scientific literature, Germany is the only country where there has been a quite vast, very intensive and controversial debate especially amongst political scientist and scholars from law schools. Nevertheless, I suppose that this might be interesting also to the users of the en.WP. Do you agree? I would be ready to contribute this new section (There is lots of literature on this issue, most in German, but also a few scientific articles in English and Italian). However, I am not sure whether it is more appropriate to add it under this article or rather in the article Youth suffrage? What do you think?--N.Al-Saratan (talk) 21:40, 29 November 2009 (UTC)

Article needs more neutral tone

Some parts of the article need to be made a bit more neutral. E.g. "During the historic Youth Parliament debates of 30 October 2009 in the House of Commons, Votes at 16 was debated and was voted for overwhelmingly as a campaign priority"; "the issue ... has ... gained the wide spread support of the major political parties [in Britain]" (which, if true, would surely mean it should have happened by now - I think what is meant that it has widespread support within each of the major parties, i.e. some in each, not the support of all of them). "Both have yet to favour a reduction to 16" (i.e. it's only a matter of time; one can see that this is not neutral if you consider the alternative "they have not yet returned the age to 21").

The point is that 16 is a controversial idea. Probably some of us like it and some of us don't, but the Wikipedia article should be written with NPOV. Aardwolf (talk) 18:15, 20 September 2010 (UTC)

Broken Link

The vote16 link for Canada is broken. Eomund (talk) 04:47, 17 November 2010 (UTC)

Fixed now.That-Vela-Fella (talk) 15:47, 23 May 2011 (UTC)

Concern about Chronology...18 section

There are 30 countries listed, with the date they lowered it and sometimes the relevant legislation. There is one that gives a mini-history lesson (a U essay, if you will). Any objections to me trimming it into line with the rest of the world? InedibleHulk (talk) 07:17, 21 June 2012 (UTC)

No problem trimming it a bit more, even if it's as much as a line is all that might be taken.That-Vela-Fella (talk) 17:54, 21 June 2012 (UTC)

Converting list to table

Are there any objections to turning the long list of countries into a sortable table? I just think the current layout is a little unwieldy. I'm working on it in my sandbox. If not, I'll be bold Comradezombie1 (talk) 15:45, 19 July 2014 (UTC)

A sortable table would be a substantial improvement in my estimation. --Anton.t.gregersen (talk) 10:56, 24 May 2021 (UTC)

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I added a Dubious tag to one part as it wasn't clear what the original author meant (there's probably a better tag than that - sorry). It currently reads as, "Several states (Georgia, Kentucky) already allowed 18-year-olds to vote prior to passage of the 26th amendment." First off, it says "several states" and then names only two. "Several" means three or more, so somethings missing there. Also, the meaning of the rest of the sentence is unclear, as any State could have a voting age under 21 for State and local elections, but it could not lower the age for Federal elections, which required the 26th Amendment.

I also corrected a factual error on the passage of the 26th Amendment. It originally ended with, "and President Nixon signed it into law...". U.S. Presidents have nothing to do with Constitutional Amendments so there is nothing for a President to sign. __209.179.36.56 (talk) 17:50, 3 July 2016 (UTC)

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Brexit and 16-17 year olds

Re "Opinion polls conducted during the votes for the referendum show that the excluded voters would have voted with an overwhelming majority for remain and that an inclusion of the age-group of 16-17 year old citizens would have lead to a win of the remain campaign" I don't dispute that if 16 and 17 year olds had been allowed to vote they would have voted in large numbers and with a clear majority for Remain. But to overturn the Brexit majority they would have needed something close to a 100% turnout and a 100% Remain vote. 70% turnout and 70% for Remain would have been more likely but only about half the votes needed to reverse the result. ϢereSpielChequers 07:31, 12 July 2016 (UTC)

Agreed. I will remove it. Sumorsǣte (talk) 22:20, 27 November 2016 (UTC)

Iceland and the Faroe Islands - mistakes

Under the section 'alphabetical list of countries', there is a map on the right hand side. Iceland and the Faroe Islands are coloured grey, indicating the voting age in these countries is 21, however the alphabetical list has both countries voting ages as 18. Either there are mistakes on the map or in the list. If someone could please fix this, that would be great. Helper201 (talk) 07:22, 1 February 2017 (UTC)

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Taiwan

Hello. There is a 2022 Taiwanese constitutional referendum which will likely be scheduled for 26 November 2022, and concern lowering the voting age from 20 to 18. Got to keep an eye on this one. Cordially.--Aréat (talk) 12:48, 22 August 2022 (UTC)

Wiki Education assignment: Introduction to Policy Analysis - Summer Session22

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