Talk:Women's cinema

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Introduction and organization needs addressing

I believe that the introduction paragraph for this page needs some clarification. I feel like it does not give information about what this page is trying to address. Is this page about the history of women involved in the making of cinema? Or about specific films that deal with the portrayal of women and their impact on society? I also do not see within this article where it is that it talks about women distancing themselves from fear, or specific character development that it discusses in the introduction, so its almost a tiny bit misleading. I feel like this page is trying to address too many topics within the subject. Axmbwiki (talk) 20:55, 3 February 2017 (UTC)

Agree with this. The first sentence literally says "Women's cinema is a variety of topics bundled together". There should be a single simple way to describe the topic of any page. Also, the page includes sections on various countries, but notably excludes the Americas while including separate sections on African Americans and Latin Americans. I'm not disputing the notability of any of the information here, but rather that the article needs to be better organized. Would it be appropriate to have one section organized by nationality and another section by ethnicity? Are there really no women in cinema in Canada? ---Vroo (talk) 01:09, 4 June 2022 (UTC)

I have added a new section specifically about United States (and moved the section about African-American cinema to this as a subsection). Also added Canada section (however I'm not so familiar with Canadian cinema, except for Mary Harron's work. Of course, I agree, this topic is important and this article needs continuous work and improvement. Er nesto (talk) 21:21, 5 June 2022 (UTC)

List or essay?

I noticed that the beginning of this article starts out using paragraphs and then slowly starts getting smaller and smaller until you reach the list of films and film festivals. It might be beneficial if instead of the one line sentences about some of these women listed in different countries, it was a list of them with the hyperlink to their page. Some women have a lot more information about them listed, while others hardly anything at all. This is confusing to me, because some of the greats are hardly discussed in length, such as Lina Wertmuller, who was the first women to be nominated for an academy award for directing. If it were in list form, it might be easier to navigate to their information. If it is trying to be in essay form, I feel that it would help to include more information about each women listed as having an impact. Axmbwiki (talk) 21:07, 3 February 2017 (UTC)

countries

The countries section with little bits of information should be taken down or fulfilled so that the country has useful information about women in the film industry. The section is just to vague and seems non beneficial. Filthyflores (talk) 23:36, 3 February 2017 (UTC)

"Resisting violence and violent resistance"

This section of the article I believe is ORIGINAL RESEARCH which is unwanted on any Wikipedia site. "Wikipedia articles must not contain original research. The phrase "original research" (OR) is used on Wikipedia to refer to material—such as facts, allegations, and ideas—for which no reliable, published sources exist. This includes any analysis or synthesis of published material that serves to reach or imply a conclusion not stated by the sources." I almost took this section out entirely but I thought I'd wait for others input. A side not would be that there is no sources to that section as well. Filthyflores (talk) 23:48, 3 February 2017 (UTC)

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Bibliography

Some sources need further clarification. The book attached below would help expand more on the topic of women's cinema. It specifies on the true meaning of what women cinema is.

Butler, A. (2005). Women's cinema: The contested screen. London: Wallflower. https://books.google.com.qa/books?hl=en&lr=&id=eVtPK6iwo4IC&oi=fnd&pg=PP11&dq=women%27s+cinema&ots=3kynsedVGI&sig=QwuJuQgiIJUs0pLIsyjyxPKygb0&redir_esc=y#v=onepage&q=women's%20cinema&f=false — Preceding unsigned comment added by Amna-alh (talk • contribs) 10:25, 22 February 2019 (UTC)

Aisha Al-Thani's Peer Review

This article page has an extremely organized contents page. My only comment is that there are many many subheadings but they're not dense. Some have a sentenced or two underneath them. So instead of quantity of "countries" covered. Try to combine all the countries under continent by continent with a more in depth analysis or a longer paragraph at least. I wish to see a comparison between different continents and how women's cinema differs in each of them. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Aisha Hamad Al Thani (talk • contribs) 19:28, 25 March 2019 (UTC)

Aisha Hamad Al Thani - I have just seen your comment, after creating a TOC limit which has somewhat reduced this problem. Laterthanyouthink (talk) 08:49, 31 August 2022 (UTC)

Split article

I suggest making a separate list article for the now unwieldy list of films. Laterthanyouthink (talk) 08:49, 31 August 2022 (UTC)

I agree, it is a good idea. What would you recommend to call the new list article (exact title)? Er nesto (talk) 17:07, 31 August 2022 (UTC)

Hello, I have moved the list - List of Women's cinema films Er nesto (talk) 15:31, 1 September 2022 (UTC)

Sorry, Er nesto, I didn't get back yesterday. I have changed the title slightly, and it needed to be in sentence case, so I have just moved it. Thanks for doing that. Laterthanyouthink (talk) 08:57, 2 September 2022 (UTC)

Thank you! Er nesto (talk) 10:12, 2 September 2022 (UTC)