Template:Did you know nominations/Gene Camarena

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: rejected by reviewer, closed by Launchballer talk 07:25, 9 September 2024 (UTC)

Gene Camarena, Yolanda Camarena

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~~... that Gene and Yolanda Camarena were inducted together into the Kansas Business Hall of Fame?~~ Source: Jones, Shayndel (2024-04-25). "Kansas Business Hall of Fame announces 2024 inductees". WIBW. Emporia, Kansas: Gray Television. Retrieved 2024-06-13.
- ALT1: ~~... that Gene and Yolanda Camarena gave $1 million to Wichita State University, with over half that amount designated for scholarships for Hispanic and Black students?~~ Source: Leiker, Amy Renee (2020-09-01). "$1M gift to help students of color at WSU". The Wichita Eagle. pp. A1, A5 – via Newspapers.com.
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/John S. McCain Sr. and Template:Did you know nominations/Reduced Gravity Walking Simulator
- Comment: Thanks for the review!

Created by Bsoyka (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 11 past nominations.

Bsoyka (t • c • g) 17:22, 19 July 2024 (UTC).

Will review this. BeanieFan11 (talk) 14:22, 20 July 2024 (UTC)

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Adequate sourcing: Neutral: Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:

Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Cited: Interesting:

QPQ: Done.

Overall: Nearly there. Only need a source in Gene's article for the statement After attending KU, Camarena moved to Wichita, Kansas, where he has lived since, except for his two years spent at Harvard. BeanieFan11 (talk) 16:00, 20 July 2024 (UTC)

@BeanieFan11: Ah, good catch, thanks! Added. Bsoyka (t • c • g) 05:26, 23 July 2024 (UTC)

@BeanieFan11: Hey, just following up here! Bsoyka (t • c • g) 23:55, 27 July 2024 (UTC)

Oops. Apologies for the delay.

BeanieFan11 (talk) 00:49, 28 July 2024 (UTC)

No worries—thanks again for the review! Bsoyka (t • c • g) 16:57, 28 July 2024 (UTC)

As a note, this probably needs to go on hold (or at least wait to be promoted) until the {{Notability}} tag added to the article and this associated discussion resolve themselves, per WP:DYKTAG. Bsoyka (t • c • g) 21:12, 4 August 2024 (UTC)
- ~~consensus on the talkpage is that this article is not notable and it has been PRODed. Queen of Hearts (talk) 20:47, 11 August 2024 (UTC)~~
  - I missed that this was a double hook. This can proceed without Yolanda, although the hook should probably be reworked. Queen of Hearts (talk) 20:49, 11 August 2024 (UTC)
    - Ah, thanks for the note! Suggesting the following Gene-only hooks below: Bsoyka (t • c • g) 00:01, 12 August 2024 (UTC)
      - ALT0b: ... that Gene Camarena was inducted into the Kansas Business Hall of Fame? Source: Jones, Shayndel (2024-04-25). "Kansas Business Hall of Fame announces 2024 inductees". WIBW. Emporia, Kansas: Gray Television. Retrieved 2024-06-13.
      - ALT2: ... that Gene Camarena is in the International Pizza Hut Franchise Holders Association Hall of Fame? "Board of Directors". Pizza Hut Foundation. Retrieved 2024-06-13.
      - ALT3: ... that Gene Camarena oversees over 60 Pizza Hut locations? "Locations". La Raza Pizza. 2010. Retrieved 2024-06-13.
        New reviewer needs for ALTs 2 & 3 (0b seems uninteresting). ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 00:34, 13 August 2024 (UTC)

I'm sorry, I don't find either ALT2 or ALT3 interesting. What's unusual about a businessman winning a business award?--Laun chba ller 22:12, 15 August 2024 (UTC)

Maybe it's just me, but I did find it rather interesting that there's even an international hall of fame for Pizza Hut franchisees. ALT3 is interesting to me (though less than ALT2), but maybe it's because I'm not from a business background. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 10:37, 16 August 2024 (UTC)

I'm gonna pop in and suggest an alt hook, do with it what you will.

ALT4: ... that the CEO of a pizza chain has multiple honorary doctorates? https://mag.newmanu.edu/honorarydegrees15/, https://foundation.wichita.edu/gene-and-yolanda-camarena-receive-honorary-doctorates/ Di (they-them) (talk) 15:44, 16 August 2024 (UTC)

As Bsoyka has already given the article a full review and the hooks have already been checked, I'm giving both ALT2 and ALT4 a tick. However, as an objection was raised to ALT2, my preference would be ALT4. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 09:35, 21 August 2024 (UTC)

The hook has been pulled from Q6 per this comment. BorgQueen (talk) 01:44, 1 September 2024 (UTC)

@Theleekycauldron, BorgQueen, AirshipJungleman29, and Launchballer: The nominator hasn't been active since August 23rd. What should be done with the nomination at this point? Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 13:17, 4 September 2024 (UTC)

Are there any usable hooks? If not, this should close. In the interests of fairness, giving @Bsoyka: one final ping.--Laun chba ller 14:21, 4 September 2024 (UTC)

I also left them a DM on Discord but they did not respond. For what it's worth, the issue that led to the pull wasn't an issue with the hook, but rather the a major section being largely reliant on non-independent sources. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 16:02, 4 September 2024 (UTC)

With the nominator not having edited since August 23rd, and not responding to both on-Wiki and off-Wiki messages, regrettably the time has come to mark the nomination for closure as abandoned. If another editor is willing to adopt this then they can do so and the nomination can continue. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 06:58, 9 September 2024 (UTC)