Template:Did you know nominations/List of Muslim philosophers
- The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: rejected by Fuebaey (talk) 06:52, 17 December 2014 (UTC)
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Although I appreciate the effort being made here, it's clear that this article needs to be rewritten to avoid close paraphrasing. I am closing this because it has been two months since this was first nominated and I do not think that this will become eligible in the near future. Please feel free to renominate this if it reaches GA status.
List of Muslim philosophers
edit- ... that the new development of philosophical thought among Muslim philosophers was due to treasury of knowledge left behind by the Shi'a Imams?
5x expanded by Hadi.anani (talk). Nominated by Mhhossein (talk) at 12:47, 12 October 2014 (UTC).
I have problems with the "Authenticity" section. It is not sourced, and uses an improper tone. ViperSnake151 Talk 17:56, 7 November 2014 (UTC)
- @ViperSnake151:
Done! Thanks to hadi.anani the above problems are resolved. Mhhossein (talk) 12:03, 9 November 2014 (UTC)
- I still do not think the tone of that section sounds encyclopedic and clear enough. ViperSnake151 Talk 16:15, 21 November 2014 (UTC)
- Yeah you're right. I'll fix it by my self. Mhhossein (talk) 19:06, 21 November 2014 (UTC)
- @ViperSnake151:
Done I checked the section. I think this section does not add to the article at all. In fact, the editor is trying to explain how the divisions were done and what references were used, which are not necessary to be mentioned and the readers themselves will understand by checking the references. Removing this section will not hurt the article. Mhhossein (talk) 19:21, 21 November 2014 (UTC)
Problem addressed. ViperSnake151 Talk 20:44, 21 November 2014 (UTC)
- @ViperSnake151:
Some of the phrasing in this article is too close to that of external sources. Compare for example "provides an extensive and detailed picture of Muslim theology and interpretive strategies on the eve of the modern period and is still evoked by numerous contemporary Islamic movements" with "provides an extensive and detailed picture of Muslim theology and interpretive strategies on the eve of the modern period and is still evoked by numerous contemporary Islamic movements" from this source, or "a religion (such as Islam) may be divine and unchanging, but our understanding of religion remains in a continuous flux and a totally human endeavor" with "a religion (such as Islam) may be divine and unchanging, but our understanding of religion remains in a continuous flux and a totally human endeavor" from this source. Nikkimaria (talk) 01:05, 24 November 2014 (UTC)
- @ViperSnake151:
Done phrasing in this article are no longer too close to that of the external sources. Mhhossein (talk) 13:10, 27 November 2014 (UTC)
- I require a final check from @Nikkimaria:. ViperSnake151 Talk 06:07, 2 December 2014 (UTC)
No, there are still problems here. For example, "his cosmology and metaphysics develop a concept of God as the one beyond both being and non-being" is taken directly from this source. Nikkimaria (talk) 02:00, 3 December 2014 (UTC)
- @Nikkimaria: How is it now? Mhhossein (talk) 11:15, 3 December 2014 (UTC)
- "reexamine the fundamental texts of Islam and interpret them in light of their own cultural background" is identical to this source. At this point, this article needs a far more thorough, source-by-source check and rewrite. Nikkimaria (talk) 14:44, 3 December 2014 (UTC)
- @ViperSnake151:
- Hello @Nikkimaria:. I did as you advised. Thanks for taking time. Hadi.anani (talk) 06:31, 7 December 2014 (UTC)
- Hello Hadi, perhaps you should seek out someone else to do this? There are still problems here - for example, " the challenge that religious diversity poses to religious belief" is copied directly from doi:10.1111/phc3.12007 . Nikkimaria (talk) 15:47, 7 December 2014 (UTC)
- Hello again @Nikkimaria: and thanks for being patient with me. I have been editing this work, so would you please take another look at it and see if there is any other problem? Best Hadi.anani (talk) 07:42, 10 December 2014 (UTC)