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The result was: promoted by Allen3 talk 10:44, 3 September 2015 (UTC)

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Mining industry of Guinea

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Moved to Mainspace by Rosiestep (talk), Nvvchar (talk), and Dr. Blofeld (talk). Nominated by Rosiestep (talk) at 17:29, 2 July 2015 (UTC).

Previous discussion
  • All 16 QPQs done.--Nvvchar. 22:41, 14 July 2015 (UTC)
  • I'd be surprised if the mining industry in any country didn't contribute to that country's GDP and boost its economy. As with the other nom I commented on, I suspect that there are far more interesting things to say about each individual topic than there is to say about all of them collectively. --Jakob (talk) aka Jakec 21:52, 30 July 2015 (UTC)
  • Before this review goes any further, I'd like to point out that in addition to being dull, the hook is also false: the first sentences of Mining_industry_of_Lesotho and Mining industry of Libya both explicitly say that the mining industry in those countries does not contribute significantly to the economy. I'll take this opportunity to split this into a number of more interesting hooks. Some will need to be referenced and I have not checked the veracity of any, but here they are. --Jakob (talk) aka Jakec 14:58, 10 August 2015 (UTC)


Took out the "Hide" feature so I can see the individual hooks and keep track. Hope that is alright. Here is the first, and I will continue with the rest. I assume that we are now doing the 16 individual hooks. Let me know if I am doing it wrong.--Doug Coldwell (talk) 17:24, 11 August 2015 (UTC)

  • ... that mining in Guinea includes 94 percent of Africa's mining of bauxite?
    -Guinea - nominated 1 day after created, length of over 3600 characters is adequate, reference citations check, hook source verified of the 94 percent and is interesting, no copyvio or plagiarism, Commons picture in article of 2006 is copyright free, but not used in DYK nomination. QPQ of Tom Catena done. --Doug Coldwell (talk) 17:24, 11 August 2015 (UTC)
    I've returned this from prep as there are some errors in the article (or at least contradictions between uncited sources). "Guinea's bauxite reserve is estimated at more than a billion tonnes (metric tons), which is almost 50% of the world's reserves."; according the KPMG report it has 26.4% and 7.4 billion tons; "ranks at 6th in the world not only in bauxite reserves"; KPMG says it is number one; "High-grade iron ore reserves account for more than 4 billion tonnes"; none of the sources seem to say that. Aren't I just the parade-pisser-on-er?; sorry. Belle (talk) 09:30, 12 August 2015 (UTC)
  • ... that diamond mining in Lesotho contributes virtually nothing to the country's economic growth?
    -Lesotho - nominated 1 day after created, length of over 3300 characters is adequate, reference citations check, hook source verified and is interesting, no copyvio or plagiarism, no picture in article. QPQ of Bharatiya Janata Party done.--Doug Coldwell (talk) 17:56, 11 August 2015 (UTC)
    The hook fact is uncited in the lede and contradicted by the final sentence of the lede and in the history section. Belle (talk) 01:14, 12 August 2015 (UTC)
  • ... that although 155,000 carats of diamonds are officially mined in Liberia annually, far more are smuggled illegally?
    -Liberia - nominated 1 day after created, length of over 3800 characters is adequate, reference citations check, hook source verified and is interesting, no copyvio or plagiarism, book illustration in article is copyright free but not used in DYK nomination. QPQ of Eliza Meek done.--Doug Coldwell (talk) 18:15, 11 August 2015 (UTC)
    The 155,000 carat figure was for 2001; you can't claim that as a regular annual figure. Belle (talk) 01:14, 12 August 2015 (UTC)
  • ... that even though Libya may have one of the world's largest iron ore deposits, the mining industry of Libya does not contribute significantly to the county's economy?
    -Libya - nominated 1 day after created, length of over 2200 characters is adequate, reference citations check, hook source verified and is interesting, no copyvio or plagiarism, 3 pictures in article are copyright free plus Flickr picture properly licensed, but none used in DYK nomination. QPQ of William Troy (abolitionist) done.--Doug Coldwell (talk) 18:37, 11 August 2015 (UTC)
    I would think most of the data in the article is badly out of date as it is pre the fall of the Gaddafi regime and the ongoing civil war; I don't suppose any industry is contributing much to the economy at the moment. Belle (talk) 01:14, 12 August 2015 (UTC)
  • ... that the mining industry of Madagascar was ignored by the government until the 2000s?
    -Madagascar - nominated 1 day after created, length of over 3000 characters is adequate, reference citations check, hook source verified and is interesting, no copyvio or plagiarism, 2 pictures in article are Commons copyright free, but none used in DYK nomination. QPQ of Hexagenia bilineata done.--Doug Coldwell (talk) 18:54, 11 August 2015 (UTC)
    Hook wording not supported by source. "Ignored" did not get involved in mining whatsoever. The source states "neglected", which has a different meaning (to allow to slip into decay through insufficient action, usually not deliberate). The wording is present in the article as well and must be fixed before this is promoted. The hook is also overly vague; when I first read the hook, I thought it meant the government ignored mining that was occurring (i.e. turned a blind eye to environmental concerns) rather than ignoring the potential for economic development through mining. ~ RobTalk 09:58, 12 August 2015 (UTC)
  • ... that the percentage contribution of the mining industry of Malawi to that country's GDP may double between 2013 and 2023?
    @Nvvchar, Dr. Blofeld, and Rosiestep: A little puzzled on "double between 2013 and 2023." I think I got it, but just to be sure = it is 10% to 20%, right? Otherwise, looking good.--Doug Coldwell (talk) 19:18, 11 August 2015 (UTC)
  • @Doug Coldwell:Thanks for all the reviews. Yes, You are right? It refers to the percentages. Can I add imgs to each of the hooks now? It will be an extra burden on you to review.--Nvvchar. 00:20, 12 August 2015 (UTC)
  • @Doug Coldwell: - modded the hook Victuallers (talk) 08:27, 18 August 2015 (UTC)
  • ... that aside from gold and diamonds, the only mining in Mali is of rock salt and semi-precious stones?
    -Mali - nominated 1 day after created, length of over 2800 characters is adequate, reference citations check, hook source verified and is interesting, no copyvio or plagiarism, 2 pictures in article are Commons copyright free, but none used in DYK nomination. QPQ of Qasim al-Ahmad done.--Doug Coldwell (talk) 19:36, 11 August 2015 (UTC)
    The article and the source contradict themselves over this; both later state there is limited phosphate mining. Belle (talk) 01:14, 12 August 2015 (UTC)
  • ... that the mining industry of Morocco includes more phosphate production than any country save for the United States and China?
    -Morocco - nominated 1 day after created, length of over 3400 characters is adequate, reference citations check, hook source verified and is interesting, no copyvio or plagiarism, 2 Flickr pictures in article properly licensed plus 1 map image licensed correctly, but none used in DYK nomination. QPQ of Romy Gundermann done.--Doug Coldwell (talk) 19:54, 11 August 2015 (UTC)
    Needs further checking for factual errors and verifiability. I spot-checked the lead, and the source states that phosphate makes up 75% of exports, not the world's reserves, which are only "more than 30%" according to the source. ~ RobTalk 10:02, 12 August 2015 (UTC)
  • ... that the much of the mining done in Senegal is illegal?
    -Senegal - nominated 1 day after created, length of over 3500 characters is adequate, reference citations check, hook source verified and is interesting, no copyvio or plagiarism, 1 Flickr picture in article properly licensed plus 1 Commons image licensed correctly, but none used in DYK nomination. QPQ of Norma (constellation) done.--Doug Coldwell (talk) 20:10, 11 August 2015 (UTC)
    The reference cited for "Illegal mining is prevalent in the country" [1] doesn't say that; it says that there has been an impact in some coastal areas because of the illegal extraction of sand for building. Belle (talk) 01:14, 12 August 2015 (UTC)
  • ... that a moratorium on licenses for mining in South Sudan was imposed in 2010?
  • ... that most gold mining in Sudan is done by artisanal miners?
    The source says that there are approximately 250,000 artisanal miners but doesn't mention their contribution to the output. Belle (talk) 01:43, 12 August 2015 (UTC)
  • ... that the mining industry of Swaziland includes what may be the world's oldest iron mine?
    This is the historical mining industry; the mine has been closed since the 1970s. Belle (talk) 01:43, 12 August 2015 (UTC)
  • ... that airborne silica exposure in Tanzanian mines is more than three hundred times the limit set by NIOSH in the United States?
  • ... that the mining industry of Togo includes the mining of almost a million tons of clinker annually?
    This will need a new hook (maybe just changing it to " production of over a million" if the article is updated), as that figure was for 2002 and Togo now produces over a million tons (I think from reading the clinker article that it must be produced and isn't mined directly). Belle (talk) 01:14, 12 August 2015 (UTC)
  • ... that only the government of Tunisia is allowed to own mines in that country?
  • ... that in the 1990s, the mining industry of Uganda accounted for nearly half the country's revenue receipts?
    The source cited says that in the 1990s revenues from mining increased by 48% (not that they accounted for 48% of total revenue). Belle (talk) 01:43, 12 August 2015 (UTC)


  • Full review needed of nomination, including complete reviews of all 16 articles and checks of the QPQs. There is certainly no requirement to do individual hooks, though the hook or hooks ultimately used should be interesting ones. BlueMoonset (talk) 19:38, 9 August 2015 (UTC)
  • Starting the Reviewing now. I'll do the 16 = one by one! BTW - thanks for adding the Comment: all the articles were moved from sandbox to article space on 1 July 2015.--Doug Coldwell (talk) 14:18, 10 August 2015 (UTC)
Sorry, I realise this is mid-review but I agree with Jakec in that the hook is really mundane. I usually give leeway to "interesting" (subjective as that might be) when it comes to multi-article hooks since the length tends to draw readers, and because of the difficulty in finding an intriguing fact to encompass them all. Yet this hook is basically: industry exists in country(s), which contributes to economy(s). I didn't think it was possible to make a mild hook worse before coming across this. Anyone with rudimentary knowledge of the word economy knows that industrial production contributes to it - is there a need to state the obvious? Fuebaey (talk) 22:00, 10 August 2015 (UTC)
As someone who studies economics, I can say with certainty that anyone who has done the same doesn't need this hook to know that mining contributes to GDP. It falls into the "obvious" category. On the other hand, those who aren't interested in economics just won't care. The hook fails the "interesting" criteria, and I heavily support either the use of individual hooks supplied by Jakob above or the bundling into a few multiple-article hooks that are more interesting. You could also attempt another hook that encompasses all articles, but I suspect you'll have trouble finding something interesting to do that with. How would you like to proceed, Rosiestep? ~ RobTalk 00:56, 11 August 2015 (UTC)
Thank you for your review. I'd say that if you do not want to approve the present hook, then the "Mildly interesting to fascinating individual hooks" are a good alternative; and other alternative hooks are fine by me, too. My goal was to deal with what seemed to me as blatant systemic bias. My hope is that if the articles appear in the DYK section of the mainpage, maybe some editor somewhere might see them and be inspired to work on African economic topics. With that in mind, let me know what else you need me to do and I'll do my best to get it done. --Rosiestep (talk) 02:16, 11 August 2015 (UTC)
Honestly, I'm not 100% sure how to proceed if you want to do the individual hooks. The best way forward may be to have you procedurally renominate the individual ones. If it were a manageable number (6 or less), we could keep them all here and promote them to different preps, but it's impossible to promote all of the individual hooks at the same time without putting together hook sets that have more than one mining-related hook in them. Since hook sets should be diverse, that isn't desirable (and gets you less time of coverage on the main page for African econ hooks, which is your goal). Let me start a thread at WT:DYK and ask for opinions; I've never encountered a situation like this before. ~ RobTalk 04:13, 11 August 2015 (UTC)
@Rosiestep: After a discussion at the DYK talk page, I think the best way to go about it is to renominate each article (other than Mining industry of Guinea, which is already covered here). I plan to review all of these articles, so if you can do the nominations, I'll complete the actual reviews fairly quickly to expedite these. Please don't feel obligated to make all the nominations at once. Remember to place the templates for the nominations in the proper place on the WP:DYKN page based on creation date, but note in the comments section that they are being split off another nomination (linking to this page). You can either ping me in the comment or post a message on my talk page, and I'll get to the nominations ASAP. I'll review Guinea in an hour or two. If you have any questions about this or prefer to go another route, let me know. This might be a tiny bit of extra work, but I think this is the best way to go given your stated goal to increase coverage in African econ articles. This method will get 16 different hooks on the main page on 16 different days, and they're more likely to interest editors as well given the improved content of the hook. Thanks Did not see that Doug is already reviewing these. If he wants to review them all in this nomination, that's up to him. Prep builders will just need to be careful when promoting. and clearly mark each hook as it's promoted. ~ RobTalk 13:00, 11 August 2015 (UTC)
@Doug Coldwell: Thanks for making a go of this, Doug. I recognize it's a lot of work. --Rosiestep (talk) 14:40, 11 August 2015 (UTC)
@BU Rob13: Yes, I will continue at reviewing the individual articles now that I know what I should be doing. I was a little confused with all this activity. I'm going to lunch, but will be back on the job in a couple of hours.--Doug Coldwell (talk) 15:35, 11 August 2015 (UTC)
@BU Rob13: Will finish the rest tomorrow. --Doug Coldwell (talk) 20:16, 11 August 2015 (UTC)
I think it's highly troubling that all but a few of the 16 proposed single hooks have been significantly flawed, and that every one of the reviews of hooks that were approved yesterday failed to find those flaws (thank you, Belle, for your excellent work here in finding them). Rosiestep, since you, Dr.Blofeld and Nvvchar wrote the articles and presumably understand them better than Jakec, perhaps you could come up with a new set of hooks, since the original single 16-article hook also had issues. It would be nice if a full 16 weren't needed, and some hooks created that included more than one article. It is probably a good idea to halt the reviews of the remaining hooks and wait for a new set. BlueMoonset (talk) 14:22, 12 August 2015 (UTC)
I agree, but just want to remind that some of the issues pointed out are issues that will have to be resolved before any hook can make it to the front page (factual errors, contradictions, etc). ~ RobTalk 14:31, 12 August 2015 (UTC)
Thanks, everyone, for your reviews and re-reviews. We will work on resolving the significant flaws. --Rosiestep (talk) 04:05, 13 August 2015 (UTC)
So @Nvvchar: has been working on the issues. He also has several ALT suggestions. Please clarify if these should be brought here for continuity, or if you'd prefer we start separate noms? --Rosiestep (talk) 03:29, 14 August 2015 (UTC)
Do we really have to make separate noms for these? Seems a waste of everybody's time over pointless bollocks when this could simply be approved and we can create more content.♦ Dr. Blofeld 07:19, 15 August 2015 (UTC)
@Dr. Blofeld: While individual noms would likely be easier for individual hooks, it's not required. If you want to handle them all in this nomination, you can. We still need alt hooks, though, as many of the ones above had issues. I'd recommend putting each proposed alt in a collapsed template to make this a lot easier to review (or I can do that if you just propose the alts). ~ RobTalk 18:46, 17 August 2015 (UTC)
I'm checking whether anyone wants to unstick this logjam and I offer the alt below based on Belle's comments which joined with the review above should enable this to go forward. @Doug Coldwell: @BU Rob13: Victuallers (talk) 08:18, 18 August 2015 (UTC)
Rosiestep, Nvvchar, Dr. Blofeld, if you'd like me to and if nobody else is going to step back in, I'm willing to do the reviews; I'll probably want to throw myself down a mine by the time this is over though; it will have to be a diamond mine though; all about the bling. To make it easier to see what is going on can we just add any alts at the bottom, rather than threading them into the previous hook proposals (I've moved Victuallers' comment and hook for just this reason, I hope you don't mind). Belle (talk) 01:39, 19 August 2015 (UTC)

Belle - I have fixed the text (and created an a stub for Diabougou (Senegal) which was misdirected. I'm optimistic that if we can just tick one of these and send it to main then it wont seem such a logjam. I added an extra alt. Victuallers (talk) 15:36, 20 August 2015 (UTC)

  • @Rosiestep, Belle, Victuallers, and BU Rob13: I don't mind chipping in with some reviews. Would anyone here mind if I went ahead and split these noms though? I think it would be less confusing for both the reviewer and prep builder if we clear the above mess and start over. Fuebaey (talk) 22:06, 20 August 2015 (UTC)
  • As the first Reviewer, whatever plan you suggest to get these going again is fine by me.--Doug Coldwell (talk) 22:09, 20 August 2015 (UTC)
  • No objection from me. Handling these all in one would be fine if no problems popped up, but since it appears many of these hooks and articles will have issues that need to be taken care of, this is too complicated to handle in one nom. ~ RobTalk 22:25, 20 August 2015 (UTC)
  • With the exception that this template should continue to be used for the "Mining industry of Guinea" solo nomination, that sounds like a fine idea. The new templates should be placed in T:TDYK on the date that the article in question was first created in mainspace (or moved to mainspace, if they were created elsewhere); if they aren't all July 1, then it's perfectly fine to reopen dates to hold them. BlueMoonset (talk) 00:39, 21 August 2015 (UTC)
  • Just ping me if you want me to look at any of them. Belle (talk) 01:15, 21 August 2015 (UTC)
  • @Belle: and everyone else, thank you so much for being so collaborative; I am jazzed. I know that @Nvvchar: has some ALTs ready to propose. What would be the best way to move forward with them? --Rosiestep (talk) 04:00, 21 August 2015 (UTC)
  • Rosiestep, somebody has to bite the bullet and start the individual noms <whistles and looks in the other direction>. Probably that should be Nvvchar as he has the ALTs (sorry, Nvvchar). Belle (talk) 12:06, 21 August 2015 (UTC)
  • Okay, I'll split this. I was going to abandon it since half of these have been reviewed, but I'm already concerned about the first hook, both factually and grammatically. Give me a few. Fuebaey (talk) 21:53, 21 August 2015 (UTC)
@Belle: Here is enough to make one of the noms. As you see I've written an article around one of the villages mentioned in the Senegal mining article (and it has more than one claim to notability). There should be enough to write a stub about Demba Diawara. The village article needs polishing but I'm off out. Victuallers (talk) 12:26, 21 August 2015 (UTC)
  • I am making the following Hook suggestions keeping in view the comments made by reviewere earlier.Nvvchar. 21 August 2015

Guinea

Made changes in the text as per review comments.

  • ALT1... that the mining in Guinea includes 94 percent of Africa's mining of bauxite and holds sixth position of its world reserves?
    -Guinea - nominated 1 day after created, length of over 3600 characters is adequate, reference citations check, hook source verified of the 94 percent and holds sixth position. Hook is interesting, no copyvio or plagiarism, Commons picture in article of 2006 is copyright free, but not used in DYK nomination. QPQ of Tom Catena done.--Doug Coldwell (talk) 17:58, 21 August 2015 (UTC)

Lesotho

Modified text in view of comments. Suggesting alternative hook

  • ALT1 ... that the mining in Lesotho of diamonds has contributed to the economic growth of the country from zero percent to 4%?
    -Lesotho - nominated 1 day after created, length of over 3100 characters is adequate, reference citations check, hook source verified of 4%. Hook is interesting, no copyvio or plagiarism, no picture in article. QPQ of Bharatiya Janata Party done.--Doug Coldwell (talk) 18:22, 21 August 2015 (UTC)

Liberia

Alternate hook suggestion

  • ALT1...that although 155,000 carats of diamonds were officially mined in Liberia in 2001 but far more were smuggled to neighboring countries illegally?
    -Liberia - nominated 1 day after created, length of over 3800 characters is adequate, reference citations check, hook source verified of smuggled to neighboring countries illegally in 2001 verified. Hook is interesting, no copyvio or plagiarism, book illustration in article is copyright free but not used in DYK nomination. QPQ of Eliza Meek done.--Doug Coldwell (talk) 18:35, 21 August 2015 (UTC)

Libya

I suggest the following alternative hook in view of review comments.

  • ALT1... that in the Mining industry of Libya the Wadi ash-Shati' may hold one of the world's biggest iron ore deposits?
    -Libya - nominated 1 day after created, length of over 2200 characters is adequate, reference citations check, hook source verified of Wadi ash-Shati' may hold one of the world's biggest iron ore deposits. Hook is interesting, no copyvio or plagiarism, 3 pictures in article are copyright free plus Flickr picture properly licensed, but none used in DYK nomination. QPQ of William Troy (abolitionist) done.--Doug Coldwell (talk) 18:49, 21 August 2015 (UTC)

Madagascar

Made changes in the text to “neglected” instead of “ignored”. New Hook suggestion is

  • ALT1...that the Mining industry of Madagascar was struggling in 2013 due to "low metals prices and distrustful companies", attributed to a 2009 coup?
    -Madagascar - nominated 1 day after created, length of over 3000 characters is adequate, reference citations check, hook source verified of "low metals prices and distrustful companies", attributed to a 2009 coup. Hook is interesting, no copyvio or plagiarism, 2 pictures in article are Commons copyright free, but none used in DYK nomination. QPQ of Hexagenia bilineata done.--Doug Coldwell (talk) 19:01, 21 August 2015 (UTC)

Malawi

Review by Doug Coldwell is in order and his observations have been confirmed by me. There is no dispute on this hook. Hence, the hook could be the same as earlier reviewed.

Mali

Text modified in the article to include phosphates. The earlier hook should be changed to

  • ALT1 ... that apart from gold and diamonds, the mining in Mali is also of rock salt, semi-precious stones and phosphates?
    -Mali - nominated 1 day after created, length of over 2800 characters is adequate, reference citations check, hook source with additionally phosphates verified. Hook is interesting, no copyvio or plagiarism, 2 pictures in article are Commons copyright free, but none used in DYK nomination. QPQ of Template:Did you know nominations/Romy Gundermann done.--Doug Coldwell (talk) 19:34, 21 August 2015 (UTC)

Morocco

Mine at Mount Uixan

This reference [2] confirms that mining contributed up to 35% of exports and 5% of GDP in 2011 as per reference. I have made the correction. 75% reserves is correct as per this reference. Hence, I am suggesting an alt hook.

  • ...that the mining industry of Morocco includes more phosphate production than any country save for the United States and China?
  • ALT1 Hook ... that the mining industry of Morocco has the world's third largest production of phosphate, behind China and USA?
    @Nvvchar: Just need a little help on verification on this. I assume you meant the "ALT1 Hook" to be ...third largest production of phosphate, behind China and USA so stuck the one on top which was the original hook. Too many hooks and not enough RAM. Morocco - nominated 1 day after created, length of over 3400 characters is adequate, reference citations check, hook source of "has the world's third largest production of phosphate, behind China and USA" I seem to have lost (now found). Just tell me where it is. Otherwise -> QPQ of Template:Did you know nominations/Norma (constellation) done. Looks good. --Doug Coldwell (talk) 20:22, 21 August 2015 (UTC)
    @Nvvchar: - Never mind. Found it in Morocco Labor Laws and Regulations Handbook, page 265. For "has the world's third largest production of phosphate, behind China (1st) and USA (2nd)."
  • Good To Go for ALT1 Hook. Morocco - nominated 1 day after created, length of over 3400 characters is adequate, reference citations check, hook source of "has the world's third largest production of phosphate, behind China and USA" verified. Pictures are from Commons and copyright free. --Doug Coldwell (talk) 20:44, 21 August 2015 (UTC)


  • Need a break = will continue tomorrow and finish off.--Doug Coldwell (talk) 20:22, 21 August 2015 (UTC)

Senegal As the earlier hook is not coreectly worded I suggest the following hook

  • Alt1 hook … that the Government of Senegal has planned to attract foreign investors and use mining to facilitate national economic growth by some 7%?

The following Hook suggestions of Belle could also be considered

South Sudan

Earlier hook is repeated

Sudan

Sentence in the text has been changed, in view of review comments. The hook suggestion is modified as;

  • ...that gold mining in Sudan is also credited to a very large work force of artisanal miners?

Swaziland

Tanzania

Daimonf mining

No change from the earlier hook which reads:

  • ...that airborne silica exposure in Tanzanian mines (pictured) is more than three hundred times the limit set by NIOSH in the United States?

Togo

Tunisia

Salt extraction

No change of this hook which reads:

Uganda

Guinea

  • -Guinea - nominated 1 day after created, length of over 3600 characters is adequate, reference citations check, hook source verified of the 94 percent and is interesting, no copyvio or plagiarism, Commons picture in article of 2006 is copyright free, but not used in DYK nomination. QPQ of Tom Catena done. --Doug Coldwell (talk) 17:24, 11 August 2015 (UTC)
  • I've returned this from prep as there are some errors in the article (or at least contradictions between uncited sources). "Guinea's bauxite reserve is estimated at more than a billion tonnes (metric tons), which is almost 50% of the world's reserves."; according the KPMG report it has 26.4% and 7.4 billion tons; "ranks at 6th in the world not only in bauxite reserves"; KPMG says it is number one; "High-grade iron ore reserves account for more than 4 billion tonnes"; none of the sources seem to say that. Aren't I just the parade-pisser-on-er?; sorry. Belle (talk) 09:30, 12 August 2015 (UTC)

Made changes in the text as per review comments.

  • ALT1... that the mining in Guinea includes 94 percent of Africa's mining of bauxite and holds sixth position of its world reserves? Nvvchar 16:06, 21 August 2015 (UTC)
  • -Guinea - nominated 1 day after created, length of over 3600 characters is adequate, reference citations check, hook source verified of the 94 percent and holds sixth position. Hook is interesting, no copyvio or plagiarism, Commons picture in article of 2006 is copyright free, but not used in DYK nomination. QPQ of Tom Catena done.--Doug Coldwell (talk) 17:58, 21 August 2015 (UTC)
  • Doesn't fully address Belle's comment. There's no mention of "holds sixth position of its world reserves" in the source (p18). The country is "the world’s sixth largest bauxite producer in 2012 and holds 26.4 percent of the world’s reserves at 7.4 billion tons, more than any other country." I'm also not sure how reliable this user generated source is. Fuebaey (talk) 23:13, 21 August 2015 (UTC)
  • I would like to request that Doug Coldwell recuse himself from further reviewing on any of the sixteen mining articles, including on the new templates as Fuebaey separates them out. Again and again other reviewers—Belle and Rob and Fuebaey—have found problems with the hooks that Doug has approved. I'm not sure where the disconnect is, but it's been consistent over the past ten days. We need a different reviewer here. BlueMoonset (talk) 23:30, 21 August 2015 (UTC)
  • Get your act together guys, this is a complete waste of everybody's time. Next to nobody cares.♦ Dr. Blofeld 06:17, 22 August 2015 (UTC)
    • Regardless of your opinions of DYK, I'm sure we can all agree running a factual error on the front page of the encyclopedia is not desirable. If you'd like to expedite this, the best way to do that would be to propose a factually true alt hook. ~ RobTalk 08:21, 22 August 2015 (UTC)
Mining in Guinea
  • ALT2 hook is good. The image is PD. I just have a question about the sourcing for the second half of the hook. Could you point me to the source that specifically links Guinea's 6th-place position in extraction of high-grade bauxite with the extraction of aluminium ore? Page 18 of the Guinea Mining Guide seems to be referring to bauxite and aluminium production as two different things. Thanks, Yoninah (talk) 19:58, 1 September 2015 (UTC)
  • @Yoninah: Thanks for the review. allumniumm ore was only an extended explanation. Probably it is redundant. I have shortened the hook to:
  • ALT2 ... that the mining industry of Guinea (pictured) ranks first in the world in bauxite reserves and also 6th in the extraction of high grade bauxite? Nvvchar. 01:24, 2 September 2015 (UTC)
  • Yes, that's better. ALT2 hook ref verified and cited inline. ALT2 and image good to go. Yoninah (talk) 08:51, 2 September 2015 (UTC)
  • Comment: since the picture is of a woman mining gold, according to its information on Commons, I don't think it's appropriate to run with a hook talking about mining bauxite. BlueMoonset (talk) 23:39, 2 September 2015 (UTC)
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