Template:Did you know nominations/Regional council of Grand Est

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The result was: promoted by Yoninah (talk) 23:27, 5 June 2018 (UTC)

Regional council of Grand Est

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... that the National Front political group in the regional council of Grand Est split into three separate groups? Source: "C'est une nouvelle crise auquel le Front National du Grand Est doit faire face. Après le départ, en septembre dernier, de dix élus du groupe à la suite de Florian Philippot, six conseillers régionaux de plus vont former un nouveau groupe, éloigné de l'extrême-droite, sous l'étiquette Conseil national indépendants et paysans (CNIP)." (France 3 Grand Est, 28 March 2018)
- ALT1:... that the French Socialist Party unsuccessfully called upon its own candidate to step down in order to stop the National Front from winning the Regional council of Grand Est? Source: "Jean-Pierre Masseret, tête de liste socialiste en Alsace-Champagne-Ardenne-Lorraine, a confirmé, lundi 7 décembre, son refus de se retirer au second tour des élections régionales. Sa liste a été déposée en préfecture lundi en fin d’après-midi — soit vingt-quatre heures avant la date limite. L’élu a agi en dépit des consignes données plus tôt par le premier secrétaire du Parti socialiste, Jean-Christophe Cambadélis, appelant à faire barrage au Front national." (Le Monde, 7 December 2015)

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Created by Mélencron (talk). Self-nominated at 17:59, 23 April 2018 (UTC).

Mélencron, I can't find the single vote for Choserot in this article. Drmies (talk) 15:42, 28 April 2018 (UTC)

@Drmies: it's about two-thirds of the way down: Dans le décompte des voix pour la présidence, un suffrage est allé à Christophe Choserot (ex-PS aujourd'hui LREM mais toujours groupe de gauche au conseil régional , maire de Maxéville). Mélencron (talk) 15:45, 28 April 2018 (UTC)

Mélencron, I got you--I misunderstood; the one vote is in the reference before, and this one does indeed support the article text. Thank you so much; I'll finish this up when I can. Drmies (talk) 17:58, 28 April 2018 (UTC)
Mélencron, just about the only thing left here is the phrase "win the council". We're talking about "winning the majority", right? And in the graphics, in the big one the right-wingers are all in one heap, all 46 of em, but in the infobox they're divvied up, correct? (Why the difference?) Anyway, Philippot's FN is grey in the image but dark blue (or green) in the legend. Drmies (talk) 01:30, 29 April 2018 (UTC)

By that, yes, I mean winning the majority of seats – I'd rather make that clear in the hook, but I couldn't keep it under 200 characters. (It should be lowercase, by the way, per WP:DYKSG#B2, and I'm using the name "regional council of Alsace-Champagne-Ardenne-Lorraine" because it was the name at the time of the election – the region wasn't renamed until later – and permitting the redirect per WP:NOTBROKEN as noted in WP:DYKSG#F9.) The difference between the two graphics showing the composition of the regional council is that one shows the election result (with the three lists), while the other depicts the "political groups" in the regional council with whom elected officials decide to sit.
As for the color difference in the graphics, it's mainly due to a discrepancy between French and English Wikipedia on this and an outstanding dispute – gray or black is the traditional color of the FN (as a party traditionally classified as being on the "extreme-right"), but some users on the English Wikipedia will insist on using "official" colors of parties, which results in what I view as unusual discrepancies (e.g. when a party has no official color – like LREM – or when there are colors "officially" used by parties that are never used by media and others to depict it, like the purple "officially" used by the UDI, when light blue is usually used to depict the traditional centrist parties). Basically... I could either change the graphics temporarily, use a hardcoded hex code in the table, or see if I can change #F8F9FA to use gray (the latter is my preferred solution), but I don't know if that'd just resume a long-running edit war. The last is my preferred solution since it causes minimal disruption, given that it isn't used on many existing maps or graphics (and where it is there's a usually a version that can be swapped out). Mélencron (talk) 01:44, 29 April 2018 (UTC)

Full review needed; previous comments never got as far as an icon, and this has been stalled for a month. BlueMoonset (talk) 02:34, 30 May 2018 (UTC)

This article is new enough and long enough. The hook facts are cited inline and either hook could be used, although I prefer ALT1. The article is neutral and I detected no policy issues. @Mélencron: This article appears to be, at least in part, a translation of the French Wikipedia article. If that is so, you need to provide attribution. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 09:38, 30 May 2018 (UTC)

Are you referring to the history section? The text of this article is essentially based on regional council of Auvergne-Rhône-Alpes; I prefer to avoid direct translations and complete any necessary research myself in order to ensure that the listed sources match the referenced text and are up-to-date. Mélencron (talk) 14:13, 30 May 2018 (UTC)

That's fine, and no attribution is necessary. Cwmhiraeth 05:38, 5 June 2018 (UTC)