Please note: this is only a test of what I can put here. If I am violating a policy please alert me!
Administrative backlog
editReports
edit- 2a02:c7c:9002:2b00:8107:f1a7:b26c:26a6 (talk · contribs · (/64) · deleted contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RBLs · http · block user · block log) – Tripped filter 1233 five times in the last 5 minutes (Long string of characters with no punctuation or markup, details). Report false positive. DatBot (talk) 20:43, 2 November 2024 (UTC)
Warned user. Level II. Ad Orientem (talk) 21:21, 2 November 2024 (UTC)
- 178.40.53.162 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RDNS · RBLs · http · block user · block log) – Tripped disruption-catching filters five times in the last 5 minutes (details). Report false positive. DatBot (talk) 21:15, 2 November 2024 (UTC)
Declined. No disruption since last warning. Now at level III. Ad Orientem (talk) 21:22, 2 November 2024 (UTC)
- 2001:d08:df:aba:2ca0:67cc:86c:81f9 (talk · contribs · (/64) · deleted contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RBLs · http · block user · block log) – Tripped filter 139 (Fixed position vandalism, details). Report false positive. DatBot (talk) 21:40, 2 November 2024 (UTC)
- 2600:1700:4930:5590:6825:bd48:2a68:e592 (talk · contribs · (/64) · deleted contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RBLs · http · block user · block log) – Tripped disruption-catching filters five times in the last 5 minutes (details). Report false positive. DatBot (talk) 21:51, 2 November 2024 (UTC)
- 2a04:cec0:1936:bd55:340c:9675:445:9083 (talk · contribs · (/64) · deleted contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RBLs · http · block user · block log) – Tripped filter 926 (Image vandalism II, details). Note: Please carefully consider context before blocking. Report false positive. DatBot (talk) 22:08, 2 November 2024 (UTC)
- 2a04:cec0:f076:e63e:c546:e40a:120:5077 (talk · contribs · (/64) · deleted contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RBLs · http · block user · block log) – Tripped filter 926 (Image vandalism II, details). Note: Please carefully consider context before blocking. Report false positive. DatBot (talk) 22:17, 2 November 2024 (UTC)
- 2a04:cec0:f07c:706b:a55c:e2f6:6113:b79f (talk · contribs · (/64) · deleted contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RBLs · http · block user · block log) – Tripped filter 926 (Image vandalism II, details). Note: Please carefully consider context before blocking. Report false positive. DatBot (talk) 22:22, 2 November 2024 (UTC)
User-reported
edit- 2A04:CEC0:193A:C5A4:C902:6827:50EF:B808 (talk · contribs · (/64) · deleted contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RBLs · http · block user · block log) – On Portal talk:Current events/November 2024: vandalism after final warning. AntiDionysius (talk) 21:46, 2 November 2024 (UTC)
- Also editing as 2A04:CEC0:F069:2E82:48A7:545C:22A5:EC84 (talk · contribs · (/64) · deleted contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RBLs · http · block user · block log)
- A rangeblock of 2a04:cec0::/32 (talk · contribs) may be necessary. AntiDionysius (talk) 21:57, 2 November 2024 (UTC)
- 2601:CD:C883:FB90:A455:6665:EE68:BC67 (talk · contribs · (/64) · deleted contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RBLs · http · block user · block log) persistent vandalism after final warning. signed, Willondon (talk) 22:23, 2 November 2024 (UTC)
- 143.44.133.112 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RDNS · RBLs · http · block user · block log) – On Romeo Travis: vandalism after final warning. Dieter Lloyd Wexler 22:24, 2 November 2024 (UTC)
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| StayCalmOnTress | CU requested | 2024-11-01 11:54 | Saqib | 2024-11-01 13:11 | Girth Summit | 2024-11-01 12:53 |
| Eldhorajan92 | CU requested | 2024-11-02 18:35 | Pbritti | 2024-11-02 18:35 | ||
| بوكوس | Awaiting clerk | 2024-08-28 16:47 | Izno | 2024-11-02 16:11 | Izno | 2024-11-02 16:11 |
| Farmaiop | Awaiting clerk | 2024-09-01 20:13 | Dreamy Jazz | 2024-09-01 20:38 | Dreamy Jazz | 2024-09-01 20:38 |
| OCDD | Awaiting clerk | 2024-10-07 13:36 | Izno | 2024-10-19 22:52 | Izno | 2024-10-19 22:52 |
| Md Sunnat Ali Mollik | CU completed | 2024-08-09 13:20 | Izno | 2024-11-01 17:50 | Izno | 2024-11-01 17:50 |
| Rawna Praveen singh solanki | CU completed | 2024-08-20 01:05 | Izno | 2024-09-29 01:57 | Izno | 2024-09-29 01:57 |
| Hunnic Enjoyer | CU completed | 2024-08-28 21:53 | Izno | 2024-10-01 15:50 | Izno | 2024-10-01 15:50 |
| Arun GKA | CU completed | 2024-09-19 22:37 | RoySmith | 2024-10-25 01:22 | RoySmith | 2024-10-25 01:22 |
| Blogleads | CU completed | 2024-09-30 05:20 | Izno | 2024-10-05 17:14 | Izno | 2024-10-05 17:14 |
| Icewhiz | CU completed | 2024-10-09 23:09 | Makeandtoss | 2024-11-01 12:52 | Izno | 2024-10-30 21:08 |
| SmileyShogun | CU completed | 2024-10-15 09:43 | 2603:8001:7106:C515:712C:C412:9D24:F191 | 2024-10-29 07:40 | RoySmith | 2024-10-23 22:39 |
| Silvia Cost | CU completed | 2024-10-23 03:18 | Izno | 2024-10-23 20:53 | Izno | 2024-10-23 20:53 |
| Albanian atdhetar | CU completed | 2024-10-28 05:14 | RoySmith | 2024-10-29 16:27 | RoySmith | 2024-10-29 16:27 |
| Rpgea | CU completed | 2024-10-31 07:47 | Girth Summit | 2024-10-31 11:17 | Girth Summit | 2024-10-31 11:17 |
| Materhand | CU completed | 2024-11-02 05:05 | Izno | 2024-11-02 05:38 | Izno | 2024-11-02 05:38 |
| Milktaco | CU completed | 2024-11-02 10:39 | Bamnamu | 2024-11-02 17:38 | RoySmith | 2024-11-02 15:08 |
| Sunuraju | CU completed | 2024-11-02 11:12 | Girth Summit | 2024-11-02 12:50 | Girth Summit | 2024-11-02 12:50 |
| Atlantaborn | CU completed | 2024-11-02 17:08 | Izno | 2024-11-02 17:19 | Izno | 2024-11-02 17:19 |
| Amadi2340 | Open | 2024-11-02 18:30 | Watercheetah99 | 2024-11-02 22:07 | ||
| SOTProductions | Open | 2024-11-02 21:24 | ZLEA | 2024-11-02 21:25 | ||
| Smileyface143 | More info req. | 2024-11-02 09:02 | Girth Summit | 2024-11-02 12:20 | Girth Summit | 2024-11-02 12:20 |
| Md Sunnat Ali Mollik | Closed | 2024-08-09 13:20 | Izno | 2024-11-01 17:50 | Izno | 2024-11-01 17:50 |
| بوكوس | Closed | 2024-08-28 16:47 | Izno | 2024-11-02 16:11 | Izno | 2024-11-02 16:11 |
| Msp7com | Closed | 2024-09-29 06:19 | RoySmith | 2024-10-27 15:17 | RoySmith | 2024-10-27 15:17 |
| Researcherofgreatness | Closed | 2024-10-11 23:26 | Izno | 2024-10-27 22:24 | Izno | 2024-10-27 22:24 |
| Korean National History | Closed | 2024-10-19 23:31 | RoySmith | 2024-10-30 15:42 | RoySmith | 2024-10-30 15:42 |
| Amansharma111 | Closed | 2024-10-23 09:56 | Girth Summit | 2024-10-31 15:37 | Girth Summit | 2024-10-31 15:37 |
| RAGULVARMA PRABHU | Closed | 2024-10-25 15:37 | RoySmith | 2024-10-26 00:54 | RoySmith | 2024-10-26 00:54 |
| BlueDIAMOND20s | Closed | 2024-10-26 11:34 | Izno | 2024-10-27 23:08 | Izno | 2024-10-27 23:08 |
| Phạm Văn Rạng | Closed | 2024-10-26 20:15 | Sir Sputnik | 2024-11-02 20:19 | Sir Sputnik | 2024-11-02 20:19 |
| Saqib | Closed | 2024-10-27 00:52 | RoySmith | 2024-10-27 23:30 | RoySmith | 2024-10-27 23:30 |
| DivineReality | Closed | 2024-10-27 07:06 | RoySmith | 2024-10-27 22:25 | RoySmith | 2024-10-27 22:25 |
| Elmenhorster | Closed | 2024-10-28 13:39 | RoySmith | 2024-10-29 15:55 | RoySmith | 2024-10-29 15:55 |
| Harishmo sen | Closed | 2024-10-28 14:24 | RoySmith | 2024-10-28 15:23 | RoySmith | 2024-10-28 15:23 |
| Maymuni | Closed | 2024-10-29 00:55 | RoySmith | 2024-10-29 22:48 | RoySmith | 2024-10-29 22:48 |
| Kjiouhu | Closed | 2024-10-29 21:08 | Muboshgu | 2024-10-29 22:14 | RoySmith | 2024-10-29 22:09 |
| Btw Santhosh | Closed | 2024-10-29 23:04 | RoySmith | 2024-10-29 23:21 | RoySmith | 2024-10-29 23:21 |
| Zaid Zayd | Closed | 2024-10-29 23:36 | Mmnwla | 2024-10-30 18:09 | RoySmith | 2024-10-30 14:56 |
| Nenoniel | Closed | 2024-10-30 00:38 | Muzilon | 2024-10-30 04:21 | Izno | 2024-10-30 03:12 |
| Hyunardo | Closed | 2024-10-30 06:32 | RoySmith | 2024-10-31 22:32 | RoySmith | 2024-10-31 22:32 |
| XpediaF1 | Closed | 2024-10-30 11:59 | RoySmith | 2024-10-30 17:04 | RoySmith | 2024-10-30 17:04 |
| Ararat arev | Closed | 2024-10-30 13:08 | RoySmith | 2024-10-30 22:27 | RoySmith | 2024-10-30 22:27 |
| MariaJaydHicky | Closed | 2024-10-30 15:56 | Girth Summit | 2024-10-30 19:47 | Girth Summit | 2024-10-30 19:47 |
| Slowking4 | Closed | 2024-10-30 18:50 | Izno | 2024-10-30 18:57 | Izno | 2024-10-30 18:57 |
| Faizhaider123 | Closed | 2024-10-30 19:08 | Izno | 2024-10-30 19:18 | Izno | 2024-10-30 19:18 |
| LearnGurbani | Closed | 2024-10-30 19:30 | Izno | 2024-10-30 19:41 | Izno | 2024-10-30 19:41 |
| Lenslinks888 | Closed | 2024-10-30 20:24 | Lard Almighty | 2024-10-30 21:03 | Sir Sputnik | 2024-10-30 20:53 |
| Lisa865 | Closed | 2024-10-30 21:00 | Izno | 2024-10-30 21:39 | Izno | 2024-10-30 21:39 |
| Ahmetdemircan1903 | Closed | 2024-10-30 22:41 | Izno | 2024-10-30 23:11 | Izno | 2024-10-30 23:11 |
| Brettandelle | Closed | 2024-10-31 14:20 | Drmies | 2024-11-01 03:14 | Drmies | 2024-11-01 03:14 |
| S M Jahid Hasan1971 | Closed | 2024-10-31 15:55 | Izno | 2024-10-31 18:34 | Izno | 2024-10-31 18:34 |
| BJSelavka | Closed | 2024-10-31 18:23 | RoySmith | 2024-10-31 18:45 | RoySmith | 2024-10-31 18:45 |
| Jha09 | Closed | 2024-10-31 21:11 | RoySmith | 2024-11-01 13:33 | RoySmith | 2024-11-01 13:33 |
| Aguahrz | Closed | 2024-11-01 08:25 | RoySmith | 2024-11-01 15:02 | RoySmith | 2024-11-01 15:02 |
| DylanPuma20 | Closed | 2024-11-01 10:18 | Yamla | 2024-11-01 14:35 | Yamla | 2024-11-01 14:35 |
| Dny123 | Closed | 2024-11-01 11:36 | RoySmith | 2024-11-01 15:46 | RoySmith | 2024-11-01 15:46 |
| Harrietchan | Closed | 2024-11-01 15:15 | RoySmith-Mobile | 2024-11-01 17:28 | RoySmith | 2024-11-01 16:49 |
| Direktorot | Closed | 2024-11-01 16:17 | Izno | 2024-11-01 17:04 | Izno | 2024-11-01 17:04 |
| Η Ἀθηνᾶ δεν είναι κύκνος | Closed | 2024-11-01 18:27 | RoySmith | 2024-11-01 21:30 | RoySmith | 2024-11-01 21:30 |
| Trevranasaurausrex | Closed | 2024-11-01 20:50 | Centcom08 | 2024-11-01 20:50 | Izno | 2024-11-01 20:50 |
| Vishal Kandassamy | Closed | 2024-11-01 21:38 | Izno | 2024-11-01 21:53 | Izno | 2024-11-01 21:53 |
| Amingon | Closed | 2024-11-01 23:49 | Sir Sputnik | 2024-11-02 02:08 | Sir Sputnik | 2024-11-02 02:08 |
| Sadifan | Closed | 2024-11-02 02:36 | RoySmith | 2024-11-02 02:55 | RoySmith | 2024-11-02 02:55 |
| Anantam tripathi | Closed | 2024-11-02 04:32 | Izno | 2024-11-02 05:33 | Izno | 2024-11-02 05:33 |
| Berber.Enjoyer2 | Closed | 2024-11-02 04:34 | Izno | 2024-11-02 16:21 | Izno | 2024-11-02 16:21 |
| CosmicEmperor | Closed | 2024-11-02 05:16 | Izno | 2024-11-02 05:24 | Izno | 2024-11-02 05:24 |
| Anzor.akaev | Closed | 2024-11-02 12:31 | Izno | 2024-11-02 16:19 | Izno | 2024-11-02 16:19 |
| Sita786 | Closed | 2024-11-02 15:42 | Bbb23 | 2024-11-02 15:56 | ||
| Aryashahnaughty | Closed | 2024-11-02 16:44 | Izno | 2024-11-02 16:44 | Izno | 2024-11-02 16:44 |
| 91838jeu72737 | Closed | 2024-11-02 16:57 | Izno | 2024-11-02 17:14 | Izno | 2024-11-02 17:14 |
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Current requests for increase in protection level
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Temporary semi-protection: Persistent sockpuppetry – Vandalism edits by Long-term abuser User:Brianmagallano IP Sock. Gunther : Talk 06:56, 2 November 2024 (UTC)
Temporary semi-protection: Persistent vandalism – Some IPs keeps adding promotional links to the page. SecretSpectre (talk) 08:10, 2 November 2024 (UTC)
Temporary extended confirmed protection: Persistent sockpuppetry – Being edited by socks of blocked accounts. Rht bd (talk) 08:11, 2 November 2024 (UTC)
Reason: High levels of IP vandalism, as well as blanking. Fantastic Mr. Fox (talk) 10:19, 2 November 2024 (UTC)
Create protection: Repeatedly recreated. — Saqib (talk I contribs) 10:37, 2 November 2024 (UTC)
Temporary semi-protection: Persistent vandalism – Frequent vandalism since 16:01, 25 May 2024. Alith Anar 13:39, 2 November 2024 (UTC)
- Declined – Not enough recent disruptive activity to justify protection. While the article does appear to undergo spates of vandalism, in the last 30 days there has only been one instance of vandalism, by an IP editor which was almost immediately reverted. Our WP:NO-PREEMPT policy requires protection be applied for the shortest period possible to stop the disruption. There is no period of protection short enough to arrest a single instance of vandalism. However, if a pattern emerges, please re-report. Chetsford (talk) 19:56, 2 November 2024 (UTC)
Reason: Hello, I would like to request Extended confirmed protection for the The Bloodline article. There are too many accounts making too many changes against Wikipedia's policy and guidelines such as No original research, Fancruft as well as straight up vandalism by editors with no regard or little knowledge of how Wikipedia works and due to the popularity of the article there is simply no way to control it and it is slowly descending into chaos. This is why I request this and I hope this issue can be fixed. Lemonademan22 (talk) 14:07, 2 November 2024 (UTC)
Temporary semi-protection: Persistent disruptive editing – Long term repost of unreferenced sentence written in future tense, mostly from a single domain. The vandalism is being signed now with various Sri Lankan names in the edit summaries, so it's probably a bunch of kids having a laugh. Hiding the recent edit summaries might also deter future abuse when the protection expires. Wikishovel (talk) 15:14, 2 November 2024 (UTC)
Temporary semi-protection: Persistent addition of unsourced or poorly sourced content – Persistent addition of unsourced content and/or factual errors by various IP ranges since 3 October 2024. — Paper9oll (🔔 • 📝) 15:29, 2 November 2024 (UTC)
Temporary semi-protection: Persistent addition of unsourced or poorly sourced content – Persistent addition of unsourced content and/or factual errors by various IP ranges since 3 October 2024. — Paper9oll (🔔 • 📝) 15:30, 2 November 2024 (UTC)
Indefinite extended confirmed protection: Arbitration enforcement – Directly related to WP:PIA. M.Bitton (talk) 16:29, 2 November 2024 (UTC)
Reason: Edit warring, COI editing, unsourced additions. Encoded Talk 💬 18:35, 2 November 2024 (UTC)
- Declined – Warn the user appropriately then report them to AIV or ANI if they continue. There have only been two recent problematic edits to this article, one by a probable WP:COI editor and the second almost certainly by the same editor forgetting to login to their account. At this time, there are less onerous way to mitigate this issue than protection. Only once those methods are exhausted can we protect this article. Chetsford (talk) 20:21, 2 November 2024 (UTC)
Temporary extended confirmed protection: Edit-warring by new users, autoconfirmed but not extended-confirmed. Suggest ECP rather than full protection. Robert McClenon (talk) 19:07, 2 November 2024 (UTC)
Reason: Page has been blanked several times, or sourced information has altered, with editors noting a desire to keep the content secret. However, this is content that is already extensively reported in published and online sources. This page has existed and hosted essentially the same chart since 2005, but the first attempt to remove it was not until 2021. Maltice (talk) 20:04, 2 November 2024 (UTC)
Semi-protected for a period of 60 days, after which the page will be automatically unprotected. I'm not sure 60 days will solve the underlying issue, but it's the best I can do given the short history of page protection. If this is insufficient, it can be re-reported and protection of longer duration applied. Chetsford (talk) 20:14, 2 November 2024 (UTC)
Semi-protection: Ongoing IP spam. SNUGGUMS (talk / edits) 20:12, 2 November 2024 (UTC)
Temporary semi-protection: Persistent vandalism – I don't what happened, but there are multiple IPs vandalizing this page to insult this guy. I believe he won some competition, and people didn't like that. Gaismagorm (talk) 20:44, 2 November 2024 (UTC)
Temporary semi-protection: Large amount of IP/possible sockpuppet editors with continual edit warring and original research. Red Phoenician (talk) 20:56, 2 November 2024 (UTC)
Temporary semi-protection: BLP policy violations. Binksternet (talk) 21:17, 2 November 2024 (UTC)
Reason: Socking resumed 71.246.109.203 (talk) 21:21, 2 November 2024 (UTC)
Reason: Sockpuppetry resumed. 71.246.109.203 (talk) 21:22, 2 November 2024 (UTC)
Reason: Recent uptick in disruptive editing 71.246.109.203 (talk) 21:22, 2 November 2024 (UTC)
Temporary extended confirmed protection: Persistent disruptive editing – Persistent addition of unsourced content; I did some research but couldn't find any sources for the additions. AntiDionysius (talk) 21:23, 2 November 2024 (UTC)
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My suggestion is to leave out the following 2 sentences in the "German complicity" paragraph as they seem to be based on misunderstandings:
"She also highlighted police suppression of pro-Palestine protests throughout Germany[509] as evidence of state complicity.[508] Karen Wells et al. highlight how Germany has entrenched its complicity in Israel's actions by banning use of the word "genocide" in reference to Israel.[471][better source needed]"
1. In general violent protests are not allowed in Germany. As some of the first pro-Palestine protests were violent, they were sometimes forbidden by courts, if they were expected to turn violent. But that is common policy in Gemany with all subjects and not special for pro-Palestine protests.
Meanwhile, there even is a calendar concerning pro-Palestinian protests[1] with daily up to 20 protests all over Germany. Thus, there is no general police suppression of pro-Palestine protests as is suggested by the current wording.
2. The word “genocide” is not banned in reference to Israel in Germany - maybe that was a misunderstanding: What is not allowed in Germany is to call for genocide against Jews. The slogan “From the river to the sea” is seen as such call and banned. Gilbert04 (talk) 15:34, 11 October 2024 (UTC)
- @FortunateSons: A quick browse shows at least for the first part support for removal, can you add any additional incite? -- Cdjp1 (talk) 12:38, 16 October 2024 (UTC)
- I can confirm that both statements are broadly true. IMO, the best resource for this discussion (in the contemporary context) is probably Steinberg: Versammlungsfreiheit nach dem 7. Oktober - NVwZ 2024, 302. Direct citation: “Die Subsumtion unter diesen Tatbestand bereitet aber auch sonst Probleme. Die Stadt Frankfurt a. M. hatte dem Anmelder einer Versammlung „Frieden in Nahost" am 2.12.2023 untersagt, während der Versammlung zur Vernichtung Israels aufzurufen, dem Staat Israel das Existenzrecht abzusprechen, sowie die Aussagen „Israel Kindermörder", „Juden Kindermörder", „Israel bringt Kinder um" sowie „From the river to the sea" zu tätigen. Diese Beschränkungen hob das VG Frankfurt vollständig auf. Auf die Beschwerde der Stadt differenzierte der VGH Kassel Aufrufe zur Vernichtung Israels verstießen - wie gesagt - gegen § 111 StGB und die Aussage „Juden Kindermörder" erfülle den Tatbestand der Volksverhetzung (§ 130 StGB). Demgegenüber wurden andere Außerungen wie „Kindermörder Israel" oder die Bezeichnung der israelischen Militäroperationen in Gaza als „Genozid" nicht beanstandet und die Entscheidung des VG insoweit aufrechterhalten. Es sei davon auszugehen, dass bei den militärischen Verteidigungshandlungen Israels auch Kinder zu Schaden kämen. Eine solche laienhafte Zuspitzung sei im Rahmen der Meinungsfreiheit hinzunehmen. Anders hatte der VGH Mannheim am 21.10.2023 ein Verbot der Parole „Israel Kindermörder" und „Israel bringt Kinder um" durch die Versammlungsbehörde trotz bestehender Zweifel über deren Strafbarkeit aufrechterhalten; im Verfahren des vorläufigen Rechtsschutzes sei nur eine summarische Prüfung möglich; eine einmal getätigte Äußerung könne nicht rückgängig gemacht werden. Die Unterscheidung zwischen antisemitisch und antiisraelisch stellt sicherlich eine Gratwanderung dar, die hier im Einzelnen nicht beschrieben werden kann“autotranslated: “However, the subsumption under this offense also causes other problems. On December 2, 2023, the city of Frankfurt am Main had prohibited the person registering a meeting "Peace in the Middle East" from calling for the destruction of Israel during the meeting, from denying the State of Israel the right to exist, and from making the statements "Israel, child murderer," "Jews, child murderer," "Israel kills children" and "From the river to the sea." The Administrative Court of Frankfurt completely lifted these restrictions. In response to the city's complaint, the Administrative Court of Kassel differentiated that calls for the destruction of Israel violated - as mentioned - Section 111 of the Criminal Code and that the statement "Jews, child murderer" constituted incitement to hatred (Section 130 of the Criminal Code). In contrast, other statements such as "Israel, child murderer" or the description of Israeli military operations in Gaza as "genocide" were not objected to and the Administrative Court's decision was upheld in this respect. It can be assumed that children would also be harmed in Israel's military defense actions. Such a lay exaggeration must be accepted within the framework of freedom of expression. On October 21, 2023, the Mannheim Higher Administrative Court upheld a ban on the slogans "Israel, child murderer" and "Israel kills children" by the assembly authority despite existing doubts about their criminal liability; in the interim legal protection procedure, only a summary examination is possible; a statement once made cannot be reversed. The distinction between anti-Semitic and anti-Israeli is certainly a balancing act that cannot be described in detail here.” There is no broad ban on pro-Palestinian protests either, and they were even allowed to happen on Oct. 7 of this year (in some cases). While there are legal disputes on specifics for both, I’m pretty confident that no reasonable person would disagree with “broadly permitted” regarding both claims. FortunateSons (talk) 16:54, 21 October 2024 (UTC)
- Bonus: there can be cases where something isn’t criminal, but can be restricted in other ways, for example due to different burdens of proof or social pressures. FortunateSons (talk) 17:11, 21 October 2024 (UTC)
- I can confirm that both statements are broadly true. IMO, the best resource for this discussion (in the contemporary context) is probably Steinberg: Versammlungsfreiheit nach dem 7. Oktober - NVwZ 2024, 302. Direct citation: “Die Subsumtion unter diesen Tatbestand bereitet aber auch sonst Probleme. Die Stadt Frankfurt a. M. hatte dem Anmelder einer Versammlung „Frieden in Nahost" am 2.12.2023 untersagt, während der Versammlung zur Vernichtung Israels aufzurufen, dem Staat Israel das Existenzrecht abzusprechen, sowie die Aussagen „Israel Kindermörder", „Juden Kindermörder", „Israel bringt Kinder um" sowie „From the river to the sea" zu tätigen. Diese Beschränkungen hob das VG Frankfurt vollständig auf. Auf die Beschwerde der Stadt differenzierte der VGH Kassel Aufrufe zur Vernichtung Israels verstießen - wie gesagt - gegen § 111 StGB und die Aussage „Juden Kindermörder" erfülle den Tatbestand der Volksverhetzung (§ 130 StGB). Demgegenüber wurden andere Außerungen wie „Kindermörder Israel" oder die Bezeichnung der israelischen Militäroperationen in Gaza als „Genozid" nicht beanstandet und die Entscheidung des VG insoweit aufrechterhalten. Es sei davon auszugehen, dass bei den militärischen Verteidigungshandlungen Israels auch Kinder zu Schaden kämen. Eine solche laienhafte Zuspitzung sei im Rahmen der Meinungsfreiheit hinzunehmen. Anders hatte der VGH Mannheim am 21.10.2023 ein Verbot der Parole „Israel Kindermörder" und „Israel bringt Kinder um" durch die Versammlungsbehörde trotz bestehender Zweifel über deren Strafbarkeit aufrechterhalten; im Verfahren des vorläufigen Rechtsschutzes sei nur eine summarische Prüfung möglich; eine einmal getätigte Äußerung könne nicht rückgängig gemacht werden. Die Unterscheidung zwischen antisemitisch und antiisraelisch stellt sicherlich eine Gratwanderung dar, die hier im Einzelnen nicht beschrieben werden kann“autotranslated: “However, the subsumption under this offense also causes other problems. On December 2, 2023, the city of Frankfurt am Main had prohibited the person registering a meeting "Peace in the Middle East" from calling for the destruction of Israel during the meeting, from denying the State of Israel the right to exist, and from making the statements "Israel, child murderer," "Jews, child murderer," "Israel kills children" and "From the river to the sea." The Administrative Court of Frankfurt completely lifted these restrictions. In response to the city's complaint, the Administrative Court of Kassel differentiated that calls for the destruction of Israel violated - as mentioned - Section 111 of the Criminal Code and that the statement "Jews, child murderer" constituted incitement to hatred (Section 130 of the Criminal Code). In contrast, other statements such as "Israel, child murderer" or the description of Israeli military operations in Gaza as "genocide" were not objected to and the Administrative Court's decision was upheld in this respect. It can be assumed that children would also be harmed in Israel's military defense actions. Such a lay exaggeration must be accepted within the framework of freedom of expression. On October 21, 2023, the Mannheim Higher Administrative Court upheld a ban on the slogans "Israel, child murderer" and "Israel kills children" by the assembly authority despite existing doubts about their criminal liability; in the interim legal protection procedure, only a summary examination is possible; a statement once made cannot be reversed. The distinction between anti-Semitic and anti-Israeli is certainly a balancing act that cannot be described in detail here.” There is no broad ban on pro-Palestinian protests either, and they were even allowed to happen on Oct. 7 of this year (in some cases). While there are legal disputes on specifics for both, I’m pretty confident that no reasonable person would disagree with “broadly permitted” regarding both claims. FortunateSons (talk) 16:54, 21 October 2024 (UTC)
- I've removed #2. But there does seem to be evidence that pro-Palestine protests have been banned in parts of Germany at times.[2][3][4].VR (Please ping on reply) 14:55, 16 October 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you. Maybe the following article gives a bit more clarity.[[5]] Gilbert04 (talk) 18:10, 16 October 2024 (UTC)
- Unfortunately that source seems incomplete. Germany has indeed suppressed peaceful criticism of Israel.[6] And Washington Post says "A planned photo exhibit in southwestern Germany was canceled as a result of social media posts by its curator, including one describing “genocide” in Gaza."[7] VR (Please ping on reply) 22:32, 16 October 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you. Maybe the following article gives a bit more clarity.[[5]] Gilbert04 (talk) 18:10, 16 October 2024 (UTC)
Consider changing "The Israeli government rejected South Africa's allegations, and accused the court of being antisemitic, which it often does when criticised" to "The Israeli government has been accused of consistently weaponizing antisemitism against it's critics, including in the ICJ ruling." Ecco2kstan (talk) 23:12, 13 October 2024 (UTC)
- The Weaponization of antisemitism page hyperlinked over "often done" has many sources to draw from regarding the accusations' consistency and nature.
- My main concern with the original text is that it's voiced as if it's an observation made by a Wikipedian. The benefit here is that the weaponization of antisemitism has a clearer consistency grounded outside of Wikipedia. Perhaps other ways to word this out include adding a time scale (increasingly accused since Oct. 7th) or specifying the critique (against critiques of their actions since Oct 7th).
- If a lead paragraph change is necessary, there may be reason to outline Israeli motives and conditions for the genocide, including Zionism and anti-Arab racism. Ecco2kstan (talk) 23:25, 13 October 2024 (UTC)
- @Ecco2kstan, how about: "The Israeli government rejected South Africa's allegations. Supporters of Israel say that accusing Israel of genocide is both antisemitic[10][11] and a form of Holocaust erasure[12], but others argue antisemitism shouldn't be exploited to shield Israel from such allegations.[13][14][15][16]".VR (Please ping on reply) 00:12, 16 October 2024 (UTC)
- I'm not as familiar with the Holocaust erasure claims, but I'm happy with that reworking! If that weaponization of Holocaust denial detail isn't on the weaponization of antisemitism page already, it might be a worthwhile phenomenon incorporate if there's more citations you can find. I might look into it myself. Thanks! Ecco2kstan (talk) 03:10, 16 October 2024 (UTC)
- That does sound quite balanced. +1 from me. Neutral Editor 645 (talk) 18:02, 17 October 2024 (UTC)
- @Vice regent: Would you please make this change, so we can close this request? ~Anachronist (talk) 21:28, 24 October 2024 (UTC)
- @Ecco2kstan, how about: "The Israeli government rejected South Africa's allegations. Supporters of Israel say that accusing Israel of genocide is both antisemitic[10][11] and a form of Holocaust erasure[12], but others argue antisemitism shouldn't be exploited to shield Israel from such allegations.[13][14][15][16]".VR (Please ping on reply) 00:12, 16 October 2024 (UTC)
Stated Israeli tank losses in casualty and losses infobox are incorrect, attributed article from Business Insider states "The IDF again had problems with anti-tank missiles during the 2006 war in Lebanon, when Hezbollah employed Russian-made Kornets. Though about 50 Merkavas were damaged, only five were destroyed, according to the IDF, which also struggled with poorly maintained vehicles and ill-trained crews." Casualties and losses box states this number as if it was from current conflict. Article does, however, state that "Israel has lost nearly two dozen tanks during fighting with Hamas since October 7." I believe losses of tanks in the infobox should be fixed to reflect this. 155.225.2.98 (talk) 14:17, 29 October 2024 (UTC)
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