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A barnstar for you!
The Defender of the Wiki Barnstar | |
Thank you for keeping the wiki a safe and reliable resource! RichDiamondPlayz (talk) 11:19, 4 May 2020 (UTC) |
- Hi RichDiamondPlayz! Thank you for the barnstar! It means a lot to me and I appreciate it greatly. I hope that you're doing well, and please remember that I'm available and more than happy to help should you ever need my input, thoughts, assistance, or other such matters. ;-) Cheers - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 05:01, 13 May 2020 (UTC)
oops
I broke the search box in my simple English Wikipedia talk page archives, how can I fix it? --Thegooduser Life Begins With a Smile :) 🍁 17:11, 4 May 2020 (UTC)
- Thegooduser I would ask someone else as Oshwah seems to be AFK. Or wait for a talk page stalker to answer. Your choice. The4lines |||| (You Asked?) (What I have Done.) 17:17, 4 May 2020 (UTC)
- The4lines Sorry what does AFK mean, I'm autistic and It's hard for me to figure out what those words mean --Thegooduser Life Begins With a Smile :) 🍁 17:58, 4 May 2020 (UTC)
- Thegooduser Oh it’s fine I don’t know what they mean either I have to look them up. I think it means Away from keyboard, or offline. Hope this helps, The4lines |||| (You Asked?) (What I have Done.) 18:14, 4 May 2020 (UTC)
- Got it! --Thegooduser Life Begins With a Smile :) 🍁 18:15, 4 May 2020 (UTC)
- Cool, see you around! The4lines |||| (You Asked?) (What I have Done.) 18:20, 4 May 2020 (UTC)
- Got it! --Thegooduser Life Begins With a Smile :) 🍁 18:15, 4 May 2020 (UTC)
- Thegooduser Oh it’s fine I don’t know what they mean either I have to look them up. I think it means Away from keyboard, or offline. Hope this helps, The4lines |||| (You Asked?) (What I have Done.) 18:14, 4 May 2020 (UTC)
- Thegooduser - Did you manage to resolve your issue on simple-en with your search bar? Or do you still need help? Do keep in mind that I'm neither an admin or an interface admin on simple-en; I'm limited by how much I can interactively help you with your code there... ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 05:02, 13 May 2020 (UTC)
- I don't know what I did, but I broke it... --Thegooduser Life Begins With a Smile :) 🍁 15:17, 13 May 2020 (UTC)
Article request
I'm trying to submit it to AFC (Articles for Creation), but I don't know what category to put it in. Could you or someone start an article about ProWritingAid? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.52.88.234 (talk) 17:23, 5 May 2020 (UTC)
- This is the same user here; can you please respond to this talk page message? 209.52.88.122 (talk) 02:02, 9 May 2020 (UTC)
- Hi there! Sorry for the delay responding to your request here. What exactly is "ProWritingAid"? Is it a company, product, software? What is it? What categories are you having issues with including this draft page in? I'll be happy to help you once I have some more information about what you're writing... :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 05:04, 13 May 2020 (UTC)
- ProWritingAid is a professional proofreading software, and its website is at prowritingaid.com. It can correct many things such as word hyphenation (e.g. "in depth" → "in-depth") or the example on their website (e.g. "make an announcement" → "announced"). However, unlike a more popular professional proofreading software, Grammarly (which has more than ten million downloads in the Google Play Store), it also has a public API documentation as well—and in that documentation, you can choose between academic, formal, informal, business, neutral/general/etc. types of writing so that the software can give you the best results. I don't know exactly what "subcategory" in the so-called "computer/software" category to put it in AfC, but I do know that no one requested that in AfC at the time I wrote the initial message on your talk page. Feel free to use either the abovementioned link or Draft:ProWritingAid to start your article/draft. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.52.88.146 (talk) 14:54, 13 May 2020 (UTC)
- Hi there! Sorry for the delay responding to your request here. What exactly is "ProWritingAid"? Is it a company, product, software? What is it? What categories are you having issues with including this draft page in? I'll be happy to help you once I have some more information about what you're writing... :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 05:04, 13 May 2020 (UTC)
Elgin Marbles
Sorry about that Oshwah.
You did right to revert that edit; this IP Address is a school, and usually we're unable to do edits from here (E.g. Elgin Marbles).
Usually this IP address is blocked from making edits; has something gone wrong?
And if there has been a change, do you know of a way that we can expedite getting this IP blocked?
Thanking you in anticipation.
— Preceding unsigned comment added by 131.242.7.13 (talk) 12:06, 6 May 2020 (UTC)
- Hi there, and thanks for the message! We usually do not block users and IP addresses unless they've violated policy or have done something that warrants its implementation. We have honored a block request from a network / IT administrator in charge of a school that was submitted to our volunteer response team in the form of a ticket, but I don't believe that the subsequent action that the admin took (approving the request and applying the block) was in compliance with our blocking policy; the request should've been declined and the IP range left unblocked until such a block was actually warranted. I could be wrong, though... If you're concerned and would like to request a block, you are certainly welcome to request it by following the instructions on Wikipedia's contact page. Please know that your request will likely not be approved, at least not without submitting some information to us to review and verify (such as proof that you're an administrator of this network, etc). It's only happened once that I've seen, so please go forth with these expectations in mind. If you have any more questions, please let me know and I'll be happy to answer them. :-) Best regards - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 05:15, 13 May 2020 (UTC)
A barnstar for you!
The Random Acts of Kindness Barnstar | |
I give you this barnstar RichDiamondPlayz (talk) 12:29, 6 May 2020 (UTC) |
- Hi RichDiamondPlayz! I appreciate the barnstars and your very kind messages, but I don't want to be given barnstars simply because "I don't have that particular one yet", or because someone is "just giving them out" or just "being generous" and without my actually doing something for them. ;-) I want to earn the barnstars I receive from other editors and because I actually did something that they noticed, that made a positive impact upon them or upon this project, and because they felt that my actions merited their kindness and because I deserved it. :-) Again, I appreciate your kind messages, your courteousness toward me, and your bright, awesome, and positive attitude and conduct - just remember to read about what barnstars (and other such things) are meant to be used or given out for, and before you start using them. It doesn't make them feel special if people simply gave them out with the same thought that people put into when they give out "likes" on Facebook comments and posts. :-P ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 05:26, 13 May 2020 (UTC)
A barnstar for you!
The Resilient Barnstar | |
I started fining barnstars you don't but should have and this is 1 RichDiamondPlayz (talk) 12:32, 6 May 2020 (UTC) |
- See my response to your barnstar above. My case in point: You gave this one to me simply because I haven't been awarded it by someone before. Give out barnstars to editors when they do something above-and-beyond and something that made a positive impact somewhere on Wikipedia... something that they did to earn it. :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 05:28, 13 May 2020 (UTC)
New message from Hell in a Bucket
Message added 22:58, 7 May 2020 (UTC). You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.
Hell in a Bucket (talk) 22:58, 7 May 2020 (UTC)
- BY email I meant sorry. Hell in a Bucket (talk) 22:59, 7 May 2020 (UTC)
- Hi Hell in a Bucket! Thanks for letting me know; I'm getting caught up with my Wikipedia messages here, and I'll be checking my Wikipedia email afterwards. I'll get back to you once I do so. :-) Cheers - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 05:29, 13 May 2020 (UTC)
User:UBX/Oshwah
can I use this on simple wiki? I no longer edit here --Thegooduser Life Begins With a Smile :) 🍁 00:02, 8 May 2020 (UTC)
- Hi Thegooduser - Why don't you edit here any more? What made you interested and want to move over to the simple-wiki project? I'm just curious to know. :-) HAHAHA, if you want to... Sure. I believe that you'll need to create that page on simple-wiki if you wish to transclude it as a template. I know that you can link across projects, but I don't believe that you can template across them... ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 05:34, 13 May 2020 (UTC)
- I'll email you the reason I don't want to edit here anymore, one of the reasons is that Simple Wiki needs more editors there and I find it easier there to read the policies and the guidelines than here on the regular english Wikipedia, I get a huge headache reading a page on Wikipedia guidelines, it's too complex here than on Simple Wiki --Thegooduser Life Begins With a Smile :) 🍁 15:18, 13 May 2020 (UTC)
- I mean, there are some key differences between the two regarding policy, but underneath the surface - the policies are mostly the same. But hey, if simple-en is where you find yourself more comfortable and attracted to in regards to contributions, then by all means - you should absolutely volunteer where you enjoy doing so. :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 15:35, 13 May 2020 (UTC)
- I also find this Wikipedia too big and overwhelming to edit in, Simple English Wikipedia is much more relaxed and small, and only a small admin team, so there is not 100's of noticeboards of where to report things, just two, vandalism and admins noticeboard. And the pages are too long here to a point where I need to read them over and over again and get a headache doing so --Thegooduser Life Begins With a Smile :) 🍁 18:49, 26 May 2020 (UTC)
- I mean, there are some key differences between the two regarding policy, but underneath the surface - the policies are mostly the same. But hey, if simple-en is where you find yourself more comfortable and attracted to in regards to contributions, then by all means - you should absolutely volunteer where you enjoy doing so. :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 15:35, 13 May 2020 (UTC)
- I'll email you the reason I don't want to edit here anymore, one of the reasons is that Simple Wiki needs more editors there and I find it easier there to read the policies and the guidelines than here on the regular english Wikipedia, I get a huge headache reading a page on Wikipedia guidelines, it's too complex here than on Simple Wiki --Thegooduser Life Begins With a Smile :) 🍁 15:18, 13 May 2020 (UTC)
A quick question about a move I made (which I probably shouldn't have)
Hey Oshwah, long time no see! I've been mostly off wikipedia lately, and I may have forgot some rules and guidelines. So, let's get to the topic: I moved Decommunization_of_Serbia back to Draft:Decommunization_of_Serbia after I noticed it failed AFC, but the creator moved it to mainspace anyway. Now, the more I think about it, the more I believe I shouldn't have done that, and should've went with AFD, but I'm not sure (and I also don't know if I should undo my move, or just let it be for now?). Would you (or any talk page watcher) be willing to make the decision or at least tell me what should I do about it? Thanks in advance! =) byteflush Talk 02:48, 10 May 2020 (UTC)
- (talk page stalker) (did someone call for a talk page watcher?) Byteflush, draftifying was an entirely reasonable thing to do to that article (and in fact was done half an hour before you by Flori4nk), seeing as it's entirely unsourced and possibly original research. My usual standard is that if I think that a page has at least some chance of surviving AfD (that is, I'm not prepared to say "this is definitely not notable) I'll draftify instead of AfD. In this case, I don't think there's any need to undo the draftify. creffett (talk) 02:56, 10 May 2020 (UTC)
- Thanks Creffett, really appreciate the input. Yes, that was my thought as well, however Flori4nk was the reviewer in the AFC process so I thought I went too far by moving it back to Draft as I was not involved in there (for full disclosure - I have been paying some attention to page creator's edits as there have been several source misuses in the past, but I don't think it amounts to WP:HOUNDING). byteflush Talk 03:01, 10 May 2020 (UTC)
- I just have to notice that the said article/draft is nonsensical. It title is "Decommunization in/of Serbia" (which would be an interesting topic), but there is nothing about decommunization in the text. It's all about ambitious economic projects of the Serbian Government. Vanjagenije (talk) 11:16, 10 May 2020 (UTC)
- Thanks Creffett, really appreciate the input. Yes, that was my thought as well, however Flori4nk was the reviewer in the AFC process so I thought I went too far by moving it back to Draft as I was not involved in there (for full disclosure - I have been paying some attention to page creator's edits as there have been several source misuses in the past, but I don't think it amounts to WP:HOUNDING). byteflush Talk 03:01, 10 May 2020 (UTC)
- Hi Byteflush! It's been a long time, indeed! I hope that you're doing well, and I'm happy to see that you're back! :-) Other than the small bit of information here, I don't believe that there's an actual policy or in-depth guide on when or when not to "draftify" a page (AKA taking an article and moving it to the draft space). I've done so a few times in circumstances where I believe that the article likely has notability and has promise, but where the creator is very new and would benefit from having the time and space to build the article slowly and where I can protect that user from being bitten or left frustrated.
- I often notice that some new page patrollers will quickly tag newly-created articles for speedy deletion - often when they've been published less than a few minutes ago. Many of these creations were performed by brand new users in good faith, and where the article and/or its subject has promise and is likely notable. Of those articles that quickly get slapped with a CSD tag, I've noticed that the patrolling admin will delete it and within a timeframe where you know that they didn't examine the content and/or subject carefully first - they couldn't have. The admin deletion part is much more rare; most will do their part and their due diligence, but it has happened before. This is what I try to protect new users from when I move an article into the draft space; it's in situations where I believe that this is likely going to happen for one reason or another.
- Just keep in mind that the section I linked you to above says that "draftifying" an article should not be performed as a backdoor alternative or a way to get around the deletion process. If an article needs to go through that process, then we must put it through that process when appropriate. Other than that, there isn't much text in the form of policy - it's pretty open to your judgment, and the trust that you'll do it for good reasons that benefit the project. ;-) I hope that I answered your question, even though it's likely been answered above... lol ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 05:53, 13 May 2020 (UTC)
Lucian Plane
Good evening,
You have contacted me to say you have removed my edit; sadly, you have the wrong person.
I edited (my first) Wikipedia page in respect of the actor Adam James as there was an omission in his list of TV shows. He appeared in an episode of 'Endeavour' as a writer by the name of Kent Finn. Can't remember the epi off the top of my head. I did this about a month ago, not 2018 as ascribed to Lucian Plane, whoever he is.....
Perhaps you can track down the correct person now, but it's an interesting name, nonetheless. As is yours.
Love Wikipedia and will continue to use it. Keep safe all of you.
Sincerely,
Beverly F
88.106.37.157 (talk) 22:13, 10 May 2020 (UTC)
- Hi there! You likely received a message or warning from an edit you didn't make - most likely because your IP address is shared between more than one person, or because you were given an IP address from your network after someone had used it to edit. If you didn't make the edit, you have nothing to fear and you can ignore the message. This issue and potential confusion can be resolved by creating an account. This way, by using an account to edit, you won't receive warnings and messages for edits you didn't make. :-) Cheers - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 06:11, 13 May 2020 (UTC)
Re-adding unsourced info
Hello. Can you check a look at this Ardalani dialect page?[1] One user keeps re-adding unsourced info and potential OR. I've pinged the user on the talk-page for clarification but to no prevail. There seem to be counterfactual info as well and I've advocated for a redirect to Sorani. Thanks in advance. --Semsûrî (talk) 09:12, 12 May 2020 (UTC)
- Hi Semsûrî! I apologize for the delay responding to your request for assistance here. I took a look through the page history, and I agree that the content Alijamal1357 has been adding to the article is mostly unsourced, possible original research, and also has some neutral point of view and other issues as well. I also discovered that he/she added content that was copied straight from an external website, which I've since removed and warned them for that. Unless multiple users are edit warring over this content dispute (usually 4+ users is where I base my "line"), I don't resort to fully protecting the article - I'll step in and deal with the problematic users themselves, but only the disruption is currently happening and it continues despite the involved users being given a warning and asked to stop edit warring.
- I think that what you're doing is right; you're asking for references and citing Wikipedia policies and guidelines when questioning the content, and you're attempting to reach out to the user on the article's talk page. Just be careful in regards to back-and-fourth reverting; don't get sucked into the "edit warring pitfall", and remember to stick to the three-revert rule regardless of how correct and in-the-right you feel. File a report on this noticeboard if Alijamal1357 breaks that rule and if warning them about edit warring does nothing... Just don't cross that line yourself. ;-) It doesn't look like you two have broken 3RR over this issue, but it looked as if you two were on track toward doing so on May 9 if things had been allowed to continue. You don't wanna do that and find yourself in the same "penalty box" as Alijamal1357. ;-)
- Please let me know if I can help you with anything else. This user appears to have been editing this article for some time, so I'm sure that we'll likely have to handle this beyond just today. If you haven't messaged the user directly about the talk page discussion, I'd recommend doing so and asking that the user participate and respond. Explain your concerns, and be positive and civil. This might poke the user into taking a look and responding. :-) Keep me updated, and let me know how things go. ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 07:26, 13 May 2020 (UTC)
RevDel
There is a phone number on a vandal's edit at the "2017 deaths" category [[REDACTED - OSHWAH] here] and I think RevDel will work here. (I initially put this at WP:AN but didn't read the top; I thought I would get a comment faster than contacting an admin but here I am) I'm not perfect but I'm almost (talk) 19:47, 12 May 2020 (UTC)
- Hi I'm not perfect but I'm almost - I've gone ahead and suppressed that diff and the information, since it definitely qualifies as personal identifiable information. Thanks for messaging me about this; I saw that you came back and deleted it after another admin had rev del'd it, but I wanted to pull the message "out of the grave" and let you know what I did.
- Also, make sure that any issues or requests that involve rev del or suppression are emailed to me instead of left here publicly. I'm sure that you've heard of the Streisand effect; leaving messages here notifies everyone who has my user talk page on their watchlist - which is just over 1000 people. Many people, upon being notified of the change on their watchlist and seeing that the message involves something that they're soon not going to be allowed to view or see, will rush over to view the message and view the content before it gets hidden from public viewing. Leaving messages here about rev del or suppression-related matters will always result in the opposite effect than what we need to achieve, which is to draw as little attention to the information as possible. ;-) Don't worry or feel bad; it happens, and I was able to resolve the matter relatively fast - we just want to make sure that private matters are communicated on private channels is all. :-) Cheers - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 00:01, 13 May 2020 (UTC)
Question regarding watchlists
Hi, Oshwah. I hope you are doing well. Thank you for previously providing me with helpful information about how IP addresses work (that was a little over my head and I still need to learn more about). You seem to know a lot about how Wikipedia architecture works, and I was wondering there was a way to have my watchlist not sort by individual days, and instead just list all changes in the filter range together? I've tried looking for a way, but without any success. If you know of anything, that would be wonderful. Thanks. – wallyfromdilbert (talk) 04:30, 13 May 2020 (UTC)
- Hi Wallyfromdilbert! You're very welcome! I'm happy that I was able to try and help you by explaining how all that stuff works. ;-) If you're not fond of how the results are arranged, they have to be arranged by newest-to-oldest. If it wasn't, it would create an absolute mess as far as understanding and viewing the data. A result pointing to an older change to a page might get listed above another result pointing to a newer change to that same page, and you can probably see from there how that would cause all sorts of confusion with timeline, which edit came before which, and what-not.
- If you're only concerned with how your results are grouped (you just don't want to see them separated by day, but just listed), I don't believe that this can be modified - at least not at this time. :-) You can elect to have your results grouped by page so that multiple results can be expanded under one entry, but the overall grouping of the results by day still occur. If you locate the settings box on the right side and underneath the drop-down where you change how results are filtered and highlighted (it has a gear icon and will be labeled with something like "250 changes, 7 days"), you can expand that to see what you can change.
- There are two different scripts that you can try out that will add various enhancements to your watchlist - the first one might give you what you're looking for. I haven't tried them out myself, so I can't tell you for sure. The first script is UncleDouggie's "smart watchlist" script, and the other is Evad37's script. Try the first script out and see if it might have what you're looking for. The second script adds unrelated enhancements, but you might like it nonetheless. ;-)
- As your watchlist grows and you add more pages to it, and hence more changes get added to your watchlist results - you'll notice this grouping-by-day less and less. It seems annoying now, but when your watchlist grows to be as big as mine, you'll learn to appreciate that grouping when you cross over from one day to the next - especially when you're going trough numerous entries... ;-)
- Good luck, and I hope that I was able to point you in the right direction. Let me know if that script gives you the options that you're looking for. :-) Cheers - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 06:52, 13 May 2020 (UTC)
- As always, thank you for your thoughtful explanation. My main goal is to make the "since last visit" option not be limited to a 24-hour period. I'm not sure if those those scripts can do that yet, but I will check them out more when I have time, since they seem to have a lot of options. I really appreciate your help. Take care. – wallyfromdilbert (talk) 21:07, 13 May 2020 (UTC)
- Wallyfromdilbert - You bet; always happy to help! Please don't hesitate to reach out to me if I lend you a hand with anything else. ;-) Cheers - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 21:19, 13 May 2020 (UTC)
- As always, thank you for your thoughtful explanation. My main goal is to make the "since last visit" option not be limited to a 24-hour period. I'm not sure if those those scripts can do that yet, but I will check them out more when I have time, since they seem to have a lot of options. I really appreciate your help. Take care. – wallyfromdilbert (talk) 21:07, 13 May 2020 (UTC)
Hello
Hello It’s been a while since I last messaged you about something. I decided to fully return to Wikipedia today. My question is how do you put your YT channel description in the
. Anyways if you know I would appreciate it. Thanks A.R.M. 19:02, 13 May 2020 (UTC)
- Hi ARMcgrath! Welcome back! I'm always happy to see people return and want to continue contributing with us! :-) I would highly advise that you not link your user page to your YouTube channel. Aside from the fact that it could present the image to other editors that it's there in order to advertise or promote it, when you start linking your user page (or other pages in your user space) to external information about yourself, you're starting to open the door for possible doxxing, harassment, and other threats and intimidation. This user box will link viewers to a page where they could locate information about you in one level or another, even if it's only a small amount - and use that to find more information about you, and so on...
- Please take a look at this essay so that you have a better understanding of what I'm talking about - I added to this significantly, and I think that it's important that you know about this before you decide to post this information. If, after giving it some thought, taking my recommendations to mind, and after reading through that essay - you decide that you still wish to add that user box and include a link to your YouTube channel, you can do so by simply modifying the template and including the information that it needs (see the directions here). Basically, you do this: {{User:UBX/YouTube|put-your-youtube-username-here}}
- Please let me know if I can answer any more questions or help you with anything else, and I'll be more than happy to do so. Again, welcome back! I'm happy to see that you're here! :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 21:15, 13 May 2020 (UTC)
Interface-protected edit request on 13 May 2020
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Im not able to search my page
Im not able to search my page on Wikipedia in new tab, by username ( hussian.ahmed.007) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hussian.ahmed.007 (talk • contribs) 01:08, 14 May 2020 (UTC)
- Hussian.ahmed.007 - What is it exactly that you're trying to search for? User pages are not indexed by external search engines, and in order to locate a user page by searching within Wikipedia, you would type "User:Hussian.ahmed.007" (note the "User:" at the beginning). This tells Wikipedia that you're looking for a user page. If you could let me know what it is that you're looking for (give me the name of the page) and how and where you are searching for them (the words you're typing in, and where you're searching), I'll be able to help you further. :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 02:43, 12 June 2020 (UTC)
Pages created correctly???
Hello Oshwah, you've been so very helpful in the past. I think I may have done something wrong, and hope that you can shed some light. I recently created a few new pages (Santa Maria del Canneto (Pula, Croatia) and Antonio Maria Zanetti (the younger)). The pages seem to work, but they're not showing up as suggestions in the search box. Let me try to explain. As you know, whenever you start to type something in the search box, various suggestions come up, and they become more refined as you type more. In the case of these two pages, they never show up as suggestions. So, if you type the titles exactly (or follow a link from another page) you can get there ... otherwise not. Other pages that I've created (e.g. Manuscripts in the Biblioteca Marciana) show up fine in the search box. Did I do something wrong? Thank you in advance.Venicescapes (talk) 11:16, 14 May 2020 (UTC)
- Hi Venicescapes! You likely did nothing wrong if these pages are published to the mainspace. It takes time for newly created articles to become indexed and part of search suggestions like that. While part of the reason is because there's a system that has to pull a big list of data in order to find what should be indexed and added (it takes some time to get done), I also believe that the delay is set to be a bit longer on purpose, so that any new pages that are malicious, abusive, or that grossly violate policy don't get a chance to make it to the search as a suggestion before an admin has a chance to delete it. How long ago did you create these articles? Did you recently rename or move them at all? ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 00:36, 15 May 2020 (UTC)
- Good Morning Oshwah, as always, thank you for the speedy and kind reply. The pages were created on 9 and 13 May. So, as you point out, it may simply be too soon. It's almost as if they're ghost pages at present. They sort of exist, but not fully. The important thing is that I apparently didn't do anything wrong ... for a change. I'll wait for a while to see what happens. Have a nice day.Venicescapes (talk) 06:55, 15 May 2020 (UTC)
- Hi Oshwah. Nothing yet. Neither Santa Maria del Canneto (Pula, Croatia) nor Antonio Maria Zanetti (the younger) show up in the search box as suggestions. Is it still too early to panic?Venicescapes (talk) 17:54, 22 May 2020 (UTC)
- (by talk reader) @Venicescapes: I'm not sure exactly what the problem you describe is and I'm curious if you have a conflict of interest here. I typed santa maria del canneto in Wikipedia's search window and the article you wrote came up as a suggestion. Further, when I searched the same term in Google, the article about it came up although not at the very top. Is this to what you refer? Chris Troutman (talk) 18:09, 22 May 2020 (UTC)
- No conflict of interest. I'll try to explain in greater detail. Type just 'Antonio Maria Zan' in the search box. The only suggestion is Antonio Maria Zanetti and NOT Antonio Maria Zanetti (the younger). They are two different people. The same thing occurs if you type just 'Santa Maria del Ca'. There is no suggestion for Santa Maria del Canneto. You have to type it fully.Venicescapes (talk) 18:17, 22 May 2020 (UTC)
- Thanks for clarifying! That's not my user experience. When I type Antonio Maria Zan I get both suggestions. When I type Santa Maria del Ca the article you wrote is the fourth suggestion; below two del Carmines and a del Ca. I can't explain why you get the results you do; it may have something to do with your browser or your preferences. I would be confident that other Wikipedia readers are finding what you wrote. You can use {{Graph:PageViews}} or other such template to observe your readership. Chris Troutman (talk) 18:28, 22 May 2020 (UTC)
- Thank you for verifying. It might be my browser. The important thing is that readers can find it even if they don't type exactly the full article name.Venicescapes (talk) 18:35, 22 May 2020 (UTC)
- Venicescapes - Sorry for the late follow-up. Yes, your browser certainly can have an impact on search suggestions. If you're caching pages in your browser (you're almost certainly doing so) and if they haven't expired and your browser hasn't pulled the changed code from the site, you won't see those suggestions until it does so. I know that Firefox allows you to override the page cache when you refresh a page - you have to press CONTROL+SHIFT+R to perform a cache-bypass refresh if you use Windows, or press COMMAND+SHIFT+R to do this if you're using MacOS. You especially have to do this on Wikipedia if you implement a new script in your common.js, common.css, vector.js, vector.css, etc. I apologize for the delayed response, but it appears that you were able to get your questions answered. :-) A big "thanks" to Chris troutman for responding and for assisting above! Much appreciated! :-D ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 02:51, 12 June 2020 (UTC)
- Thank you Oshwah. Sorry to be a bother. It's working now.Venicescapes (talk) 09:51, 12 June 2020 (UTC)
- Venicescapes - No problem! And no apologies are needed; this is what we're here for - to help others. :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 10:14, 12 June 2020 (UTC)
- Thank you Oshwah. Sorry to be a bother. It's working now.Venicescapes (talk) 09:51, 12 June 2020 (UTC)
- Venicescapes - Sorry for the late follow-up. Yes, your browser certainly can have an impact on search suggestions. If you're caching pages in your browser (you're almost certainly doing so) and if they haven't expired and your browser hasn't pulled the changed code from the site, you won't see those suggestions until it does so. I know that Firefox allows you to override the page cache when you refresh a page - you have to press CONTROL+SHIFT+R to perform a cache-bypass refresh if you use Windows, or press COMMAND+SHIFT+R to do this if you're using MacOS. You especially have to do this on Wikipedia if you implement a new script in your common.js, common.css, vector.js, vector.css, etc. I apologize for the delayed response, but it appears that you were able to get your questions answered. :-) A big "thanks" to Chris troutman for responding and for assisting above! Much appreciated! :-D ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 02:51, 12 June 2020 (UTC)
- Thank you for verifying. It might be my browser. The important thing is that readers can find it even if they don't type exactly the full article name.Venicescapes (talk) 18:35, 22 May 2020 (UTC)
- Thanks for clarifying! That's not my user experience. When I type Antonio Maria Zan I get both suggestions. When I type Santa Maria del Ca the article you wrote is the fourth suggestion; below two del Carmines and a del Ca. I can't explain why you get the results you do; it may have something to do with your browser or your preferences. I would be confident that other Wikipedia readers are finding what you wrote. You can use {{Graph:PageViews}} or other such template to observe your readership. Chris Troutman (talk) 18:28, 22 May 2020 (UTC)
- No conflict of interest. I'll try to explain in greater detail. Type just 'Antonio Maria Zan' in the search box. The only suggestion is Antonio Maria Zanetti and NOT Antonio Maria Zanetti (the younger). They are two different people. The same thing occurs if you type just 'Santa Maria del Ca'. There is no suggestion for Santa Maria del Canneto. You have to type it fully.Venicescapes (talk) 18:17, 22 May 2020 (UTC)
- (by talk reader) @Venicescapes: I'm not sure exactly what the problem you describe is and I'm curious if you have a conflict of interest here. I typed santa maria del canneto in Wikipedia's search window and the article you wrote came up as a suggestion. Further, when I searched the same term in Google, the article about it came up although not at the very top. Is this to what you refer? Chris Troutman (talk) 18:09, 22 May 2020 (UTC)
Possible RfA?
Hello Oshwah,
I hope you are doing well. I have a question I have been very hesitant to ask. I am thinking about doing a possible RfA in about the next 6-12 months. To be clear, I am OK with being an administrator and I am also OK with staying a non-admin. I just want to serve Wikipedia well regardless of whether or not I am an admin. I don't think it is a smart move to go start an RfA without consulting an admin first because it could fail miserably. I thought about putting myself out there at WP:ORCP, but I feel more comfortable consulting with individual editors first. Right now, I don't feel I could pass right now since I think WP:NOTQUITEYET applies to me at this time. I think the administrative tools would be helpful because as a vandal fighter and new page patroller, I could help with blocking those who break our rules and deleting articles according to the CSD criteria especially vandalism and spam. I would like to know your thoughts on what an RfA could look like. Interstellarity (talk) 19:36, 14 May 2020 (UTC)
- Hi Interstellarity! I think you're doing the right thing by inquiring about the process and getting general input about your ideas and possible plans with others. I can definitely share with you my general thoughts based on my experience with both participating and reading other users' RFAs, as well as having barely survived (lol) my RFA. If you're interested in running for the toolset in the somewhat-near future, you should keep in mind there's much more that I (and many others) look for in good candidates than just having a record of solid dedication to recent changes patrolling. Passing an RFA solely (or even mostly) on your level of experience and dedication toward recent changes patrolling and reverting vandalism is extremely rare. I was able to pass mine on that basis because I was, at the time, one of the largest patrollers of all-time, and I came into that RFA process with years of experience and where I was well-known to the community for my work in that area. Had I been any less experienced with vandal-fighting, I'm damn sure that I wouldn't have even come close to passing.
- The community looks for many other important strengths, experience, and involvement in the applications that they feel would make good administrators. You'll want to make sure that you can demonstrate a high level of Wikipedia policy knowledge, experience and understanding of consensus and process, as well as good communication skills and dedication toward helping new editors and those who are finding themselves in need of guidance. Good administrators also have near-infalliable knack for remaining civil toward other editors - even in situations where someone is (figuratively) spitting in your face and telling you in ALL CAPITAL LETTERS that you'd be better off dead and that you should go kill yourself. Remember that, aside from having the knowledge and competence to use those tools properly and within compliance of policy, you're also someone who sets the example for how editors should edit, comment, and behave on this project when you hold those tools. ORCP isn't a bad place to go to if you're not planning on running for adminship soon, but have that as a long-term goal or in your planbook within the next year. Just take the responses and input in a "take the meat and leave the bones" kind of manner. While you should take any opinions and analogies that one editors might make there with a grain of salt, you should definitely take the collective feedback that multiple participants touch on and agree with in their individual evaluations as a good representative of where you stand.
- I think that if you build yourself and your experience in areas where you're explaining and elaborating on policy often (such as AFD for example), and you spend time helping new users and demonstrating your patience, willingness to help, and your ability to effectively communicate with other users - that you'll be on the right track for having community support and at least standing in an RFA with a fair chance of passing and where you'd (worst case scenario) have a fair RFA turnout and result, and where it doesn't sink to the bottom like the Titanic like where we've often seen happen with many RFAs. :-) I hope that my response helped to at least give you a sense of what the community will look for and expect in good candidates, and give you a starting point to where you can set some goals and do well with meeting them during the 6-12 month timeline that you said was when you might consider running. Please let me know if you have any questions or if I can provide you with any more input or thoughts, and I'll be happy to do so. :-) Keep me posted, and let me know what you decide will be your long-term plans and goals. :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 06:23, 15 May 2020 (UTC)
- Hello Oshwah, Thank you for your response. I do understand that there is more to being an administrator than just reverting vandalism. I also have experience helping others at the Teahouse where I started out as a newbie asking for help there. I have participated in AFD discussions and have closed a few AFDs and RMs which call for evaluating consensus. I have had new users come to my talk page why their articles got declined at AFC. I try to explain to them what was it that got the article declined. I try to communicate with users and evaluate their concerns and seek help whenever I need it. I don't think my experience is there yet, but I hope it will get there. Interstellarity (talk) 11:55, 15 May 2020 (UTC)
- And while your here, I know I’m not close to a RFA soon but what do you think I should improve. Signed,The4lines |||| (You Asked?) (What I have Done.) 14:15, 15 May 2020 (UTC)
- (by talk reader) @The4lines: Please focus on being a good Wikipedian and the rest will sort out. You're still learning about NPP. All three articles you ever created were deleted. Keep contributing everyday for the next five years and other editors will ask you. Chris Troutman (talk) 15:30, 15 May 2020 (UTC)
- @Chris troutman: Ok, thanks for your input. I am still welcome to Oshwah input too. Signed,The4lines |||| (You Asked?) (What I have Done.) 15:36, 15 May 2020 (UTC)
- The4lines - Is this a question you were asking for me? Do you still need it answered? Let me know. ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 02:59, 12 June 2020 (UTC)
- (by talk reader) @The4lines: Please focus on being a good Wikipedian and the rest will sort out. You're still learning about NPP. All three articles you ever created were deleted. Keep contributing everyday for the next five years and other editors will ask you. Chris Troutman (talk) 15:30, 15 May 2020 (UTC)
- And while your here, I know I’m not close to a RFA soon but what do you think I should improve. Signed,The4lines |||| (You Asked?) (What I have Done.) 14:15, 15 May 2020 (UTC)
- Hey Oshwah, nice seeing you, I don't think so. I'll come back soon when the question again ;). Best, Signed,The4lines |||| (You Asked?) (What I have Done.) 16:07, 12 June 2020 (UTC)
- Hello Oshwah, Thank you for your response. I do understand that there is more to being an administrator than just reverting vandalism. I also have experience helping others at the Teahouse where I started out as a newbie asking for help there. I have participated in AFD discussions and have closed a few AFDs and RMs which call for evaluating consensus. I have had new users come to my talk page why their articles got declined at AFC. I try to explain to them what was it that got the article declined. I try to communicate with users and evaluate their concerns and seek help whenever I need it. I don't think my experience is there yet, but I hope it will get there. Interstellarity (talk) 11:55, 15 May 2020 (UTC)
- (talk page watcher) Interstellarity, if you don't mind, I have a couple suggestions. If you want more, drop me a talk page message. I'd focus on some content work. You do good work, but there will be !voters who want to see that you can handle writing to the encyclopedia. I'd write a GA/FA or two, which will detract anyone with this mindset (recently CaptainEek passed, but probably wouldn't have done for not having worked on Cactus Wren.) Having good experience working in wikipedia mainspace, no history of abuse and a need for the tools is usually enough for most people. You might have issues with tenure (your account is very old, but you've been editing consistently since 2019), and editcount, but both of these things will be helped by getting some content created. I hope some of this is helpful. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 15:46, 15 May 2020 (UTC)
- Interstellarity - Echoing what Lee Vilenski said above, I also consider one's experience with article creation and expansion when I make a decision in an RFA. I don't need to see a decorated array of GA's or FA's under your belt, but I do like to see that they have enough demonstrable evidence of creation or expansion to where I feel confident that you understand Wikipedia's important and various policies, guidelines, and etiquette. I'll tell you this from experience: Demonstrating a good grasp on these very concepts when it comes to recent changes patrolling and vandal-fighting is one thing, but demonstrating that same level of knowledge when you're actually writing and expanding content and contributing to discussions that directly involve what you're creating or expanding is absolutely another. When I first became an admin, I felt 100% confident and comfortable with my knowledge of when you should report users to AIV and hence when those users should be blocked... Or at least I thought I felt that way, until I went to start exercising my knowledge of these policies in the position of a user who was actually going to be pushing the block button - something that I was completely new at doing. I found myself double-and-triple-checking everything, re-reading the blocking policy in a somewhat-unique situation with a report at AIV - even though I've read through it forwards and backwards 40+ times in the past, and looking through the reported users' edits more than once - even in somewhat-blatant cases - before I'd block the user.
- What's my point in telling you all of this? To explain why I look at content creation and expansion in RFAs. I wasn't going so slowly and carefully through AIV as an admin because I didn't understand the relevant policies and had no knowledge of them at all. It's because I had never exercised that knowledge while in the position of being the blocking admin before, and I had to build my confidence and experience with the knowledge and understanding of these policies from a completely different position. Good knowledge of policy is shown by one's ability to cite them in situations when asked and apply them in one's contributions to a certain area. What I want to see in a candidate is that they are comfortable applying that knowledge in more than one major area or position of this project, because I know that you're capable of slowing down, doing what's needed to do things right, and that you don't get overconfident take your knowledge of policy and charge into a new area at full-blast without checking yourself. :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 16:38, 15 May 2020 (UTC)
- @Lee Vilenski and Oshwah: Thank you both for your responses. I have no doubt that I can always improve as a Wikipedia editor. My ultimate goal is to make Wikipedia a better place for readers and our editors. I do have some experience with content creation. The latest article I created was Impact of the COVID-19 pandemic on hospitals. I believe I have a lot of potential to become one of our best editors in the future. I will continue to improve my skills by learning from my mistakes. Don't forget to stay safe and stay healthy!! :-) Interstellarity (talk) 21:47, 15 May 2020 (UTC)
- Interstellarity - No problem. Always happy to help! :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 02:58, 12 June 2020 (UTC)
- @Lee Vilenski and Oshwah: Thank you both for your responses. I have no doubt that I can always improve as a Wikipedia editor. My ultimate goal is to make Wikipedia a better place for readers and our editors. I do have some experience with content creation. The latest article I created was Impact of the COVID-19 pandemic on hospitals. I believe I have a lot of potential to become one of our best editors in the future. I will continue to improve my skills by learning from my mistakes. Don't forget to stay safe and stay healthy!! :-) Interstellarity (talk) 21:47, 15 May 2020 (UTC)
Help regarding IP address and internet usage
Last May 9, 2020 (Philippine Standard Time), the modem of my home internet got broken. So I had use to mobile data of my cellphone service in order to edit articles. Fast forward to May 11, 2020, I couldn't edit anything in Wikipedia not even my talkpage because the IP that I was using was ranged blocked. I checked my block log, I wasn't blocked but the IP that I was under was blocked for editing. I'm messaging you because I don't want my account to be blocked because of IP hopping. I didn't even know there's such a thing regarding IP hopping. Now, my home internet got a new modem and now I can edit again here in Wikipedia using my home internet connection. Is there anyway you could help me, that my account wouldn't get in trouble because If incase I used a different internet connection and different IP address? And I am specifically asking you, because your name was attached to the blocked notice to the IP adress I was using. TheHotwiki (talk) 10:07, 15 May 2020 (UTC)
- Hi Hotwiki, and thanks for the message! I'll be happy to answer your questions and address your concerns. :-) Unfortunately, range blocks made to mobile networks that cover a wide number of IP addresses is not an uncommon occurrence at times. It's easy for people to change their IP address (both purposefully and unintentionally) on these networks due to the fact that the mobile providers have to accommodate for the mobility and travel of their users. Mobile ISPs have to allocate IP addresses with large subnet addresses and with the ability for them to change often. This is because people travel and move, go from tower to tower, area to area, drop in and out of connectivity as they switch to WiFi networks and go unto tunnels, and do all sorts of different daily tasks that make it hard to force each mobile device to keep one IP address only. When someone uses a mobile IP to cause vandalism, disruption, or abuse on Wikipedia, and at a very large scale or severity - and when the evidence is clear that they're quickly changing IP addresses and continuing to cause the disruption, administrators at many times have to apply a block to the network range in order to stop it. It's not their choice; they don't do that for fun. :-)
- That being said, it doesn't mean that you're automatically guilty of causing vandalism, abuse, or disruption simply because you happened to try and edit using an IP address under a range that's currently blocked. So long as you're actually not participating in the disruption, you have nothing to worry about. If you happen to come up as part of a search or investigation by checkusers, they have access to data outside of just the IP address you used to edit (your user agent being an example). Rest assured, they have the proper tools, knowledge, and training in order to investigate each matter thoroughly and carefully, and make the right decision as far a blocking goes. Like I said, if you haven't actually done anything abusive or malicious, you need not worry at all. :-)
- Please let me know if I can answer any questions or address any further concerns, and I'll be happy to do so. :-) Thanks again for the message, and I wish you a great day and happy editing. :-D Best regards - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 10:44, 19 May 2020 (UTC)
- Okay. Thanks a lot for your response! I appreciate it.TheHotwiki (talk) 10:48, 19 May 2020 (UTC)
- Hotwiki - No problem; always happy to help! ;-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 10:56, 19 May 2020 (UTC)
- Okay. Thanks a lot for your response! I appreciate it.TheHotwiki (talk) 10:48, 19 May 2020 (UTC)
Naturopathy page
Hello, I was wondering about protecting pages. The naturopathy page seems to be regularly protected but it’s clearly being protected with such a biased and derogatory description that I don’t understand how someone could let that stand. Who makes such decisions? And who is responsible for checking this content for accuracy?
Thanks. Almarune (talk) 21:48, 18 May 2020 (UTC)
- @Almarune: You should check out WP:GEVAL and WP:FRINGE to understand why the page is protected. In short: "Neutral" doesn't mean that we give false balance in favor of a concept rejected by mainstream academia. If a concept is rejected by mainstream scientific sources, then that's the "side" we take. Ian.thomson (talk) 22:01, 18 May 2020 (UTC)
- Hi Almarune, and thanks for messaging me with your questions and concerns. I highly recommend that you read Ian.thomson's response above, as these pages will help you to understand the reason behind the decision to add protection to this article at the time. I am slightly confused though; this article was last protected back in March 2020 (about two months ago) - is there a particular reason that you're bringing these concerns to me now? I see that your first edit was with your message here. Have you edited Wikipedia before? I'm just trying to figure out the context of the situation and where your thoughts are coming from. :-) Thanks - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 10:25, 19 May 2020 (UTC)
- Hi,
- No, I’ve never edited Wikipedia before. I’m not sure I’m responding in the right place now as this is all new to me. Apologies if I’m putting things in the wrong place. I was just shocked when I came across the inflammatory and biased tone of this entry about naturopathy. I‘ve always found Wikipedia to seem neutral, encyclopedic and informative. To its credit, I’ve never come across an article that made me notice or think about the author. This one was just so out of step with the regular balanced tone of Wikipedia that it surprised me. It seemed so personal and angry that it made me question the process - so I wrote in to ask. Thanks for your previous response. Almarune (talk) 21:13, 19 May 2020 (UTC)
- Hi Almarune! No worries, and welcome to Wikipedia! Since you're brand new here, I recommend that you go through and complete Wikipedia's new user tutorial. t will provide you with many helpful walkthroughs, guides, interactive lessons, and other information that will be very helpful to you. Most users who take this advice and complete the tutorial tell me later that it was significantly helpful to them and saved them hours of time and frustration they would've experienced otherwise. If you run into any questions, concerns, or issues (such as this), please don't hesitate to reach out to me and let me know. I'll be happy to take a look and help you. :-) Best - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 23:29, 19 May 2020 (UTC)
- No, I’ve never edited Wikipedia before. I’m not sure I’m responding in the right place now as this is all new to me. Apologies if I’m putting things in the wrong place. I was just shocked when I came across the inflammatory and biased tone of this entry about naturopathy. I‘ve always found Wikipedia to seem neutral, encyclopedic and informative. To its credit, I’ve never come across an article that made me notice or think about the author. This one was just so out of step with the regular balanced tone of Wikipedia that it surprised me. It seemed so personal and angry that it made me question the process - so I wrote in to ask. Thanks for your previous response. Almarune (talk) 21:13, 19 May 2020 (UTC)
BAN on wiki for my username!
Hi, i am a Bulgarian photographer, my ph pages are called COCAINE VISION. I got ban bc of my name! FIX IT! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Damyan Dechev (talk • contribs) 12:36, 21 May 2020 (UTC)
- (by talk reader) @Damyan Dechev: No. Wikipedia is an encyclopedia. People register accounts in order to contribute to our articles. We are not an advertising platform and you have no right to your preferred promotional name. Chris Troutman (talk) 13:32, 21 May 2020 (UTC)
- Hi Damyan Dechev. Your username was in violation of Wikipedia's username policy for multiple reasons. You're welcome to use this account to edit, but the other account cannot be unblocked unless the username is changed and it complies with the username policy. I'm sorry if this frustrated you, but (as said above) we are an encyclopedia, and we're here to build and contribute to it. If accounts violate policy with the username they chose, or the user violates policy with their edits or behaviors, they can be blocked in order to prevent disruption. Please let me know if you have any questions about Wikipedia's policies, and I'll be happy to answer them. Thank you - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 01:10, 22 May 2020 (UTC)
Hello Sir I need some help to write articles easily and i want to become like you
Hello I want to write an article on YouTube vs TikTok which is currently a controversy running in our country India by which TikTok is now a low rated app in India. Many popular news articles covered this topic and tv channels too. Now the TikTok rating app is 1.2 well before controversy it was the top-rated app like up to 4.5 but everything changed by a small war between YouTube and TikTok creators which makes controversy. So I studied all the articles and talk to the persons who knows everything and covered everything on this current happenings. I just want to know whether I can write an article on this issue or not and I just want your help to get started. Hope I 'll get help from you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Chanduyelga9 (talk • contribs) 20:32, 21 May 2020 (UTC)
- Hi Chanduyelga9, and welcome to Wikipedia! I advise going through and completing the new user tutorial before you start making any edits. It will provide you with many important walkthroughs, guides, interactive lessons, and other information that will be very helpful to you. Most users who take this advice and complete the tutorial tell me later that it was significantly helpful to them and saved them hours of time and frustration they would've experienced otherwise. I highly advise that you read this help page before you get started, as it will help you avoid typical issues and pitfalls when creating your first article. Afterwards, I advise using the articles for creation page to help you create the article as a draft. This will give you all the time that you need to build, expand, and get the article ready before you publish it. This also gives you easy access to help from experienced editors should you need assistance with anything. If you run into any questions, please don't hesitate to let me know and I'll be happy to help. Again, welcome to Wikipedia! I hope that you enjoy your stay with us; take off your jacket and have a seat. :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 01:48, 22 May 2020 (UTC)
Question
Can you provide a documentation of your QuickBlockScript, along with a screenshot of QuickBlockScript in action, please? --107.242.113.52 (talk) 02:43, 22 May 2020 (UTC)
- Hi there! Sure, I'll be happy to do that. I'll put that on my to-do list; it'll be documented here once I get that done. :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 03:01, 12 June 2020 (UTC)
Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 27 May 2020
{{edit extended-protected|User:Oshwah|answered=yes}} There's a swear word which is too violent than the other words. It's also more bad than the N-word. It's called the S-word (not "s**t", "stupid". Please replace with "silly". The secret weapon for the account Denimbabel 16:08, 27 May 2020 (UTC)
- (talk page stalker) The secret weapon for the account Denimbabel, For which page? Wikipedia is not censored, so as long as the swear word isn't attacking a person, or is a not threat, it's generally fine --Thegooduser Life Begins With a Smile :) 🍁 16:33, 27 May 2020 (UTC)
- Hi Denimalt! What page are you referring to and requesting protection for? Pages have to be eligible for page protection per Wikipedia's page protection policy, meaning that they usually have to be the subject of high-rate disruption by multiple users (at least more than two users) that's currently ongoing and in-process. Let me know. What is the word that you're referring to, exactly? It's okay to state the word in context if you're just using it to explain the word itself; "Nancy said the word 'ass' to another person today" is different than "Nancy is nothing but an ass who should stay out of my way". One is being used in context to explain the behavior, the other is not. ;-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 03:07, 12 June 2020 (UTC)
User:Abelmoschus Esculentus/UISU.js
There's a change I want to make to this --Thegooduser Life Begins With a Smile :) 🍁 01:54, 28 May 2020 (UTC)
- Thegooduser - I'd normally say that you should talk to Abelmoschus Esculentus and suggest or coordinate your change with them, but seeing that they've retired, this is obviously not possible. Why not just copy that code into your own .js page and modify it there instead? Then you can just implement your version of this code instead of Abelmoschus Esculentus' version by modifying your .js page where you include that code... ;-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 03:09, 12 June 2020 (UTC)
Article I wrote was deleted because personal info wasn't divulged
Wrote an article for a friend as my job was closed and he thought I might have fun with it (I am an English teacher in Hanoi who writes in his spare time). Article was up for a while and seemed to be getting attention and then some administrator says it's paid content and removes it. Article was on a relatively famous company in the area that I live in (I literally live in the apartment behind its office). Not sure what to do. Admin won't respond to me. I used other articles on this site as reference (ie; Russia, India, etc) and have made it as unbiased as possible. I am not getting paid.
what is your recommendation?
If content that I spent a long time working on can be deleted over arbitrary reasons, especially when I have been as open and nonconfrontational as possible, I'm not sure I want to contribute to this site longer. I have very severe anxiety problems and do not like divulging personal information. Need an answer.
Would be appreciated. — Preceding unsigned comment added by KyleVietnam (talk • contribs) 07:51, 28 May 2020 (UTC)
- Hi, KyleVietnam! I'm a talk-page stalker. Are you talking about Rikkeisoft? It is not deleted, it has been just removed from the main article space to the Draft space – you can find it here: Draft:Rikkeisoft and work on it so that the article meets Wikipedia standards and conforms Wikipedia policies.
- User:Lapablo, who moved your article to the Draft space, left a clear message in the move summary: Undersourced, incubate in draftspace (Possible WP:PROMO and violation of WP:TOU vet through WP:AFC (via script) as well as at your talk page. Please see the linked pages and try to fix problems, or - if the problems are not apparent - discuss them with other editors.
- It would be understandable if you decide to leave Wikipedia after a negative experience. However, be aware that writing a good article from scratch is one of the hardest tasks in Wikipedia, and for a novice it is next to impossible. No offence, this simply is a reality; everyone here has had hard time in the beginnings. --(talk page stalker) CiaPan (talk) 12:39, 28 May 2020 (UTC)
- (talk page watcher) CiaPan, I think you may have been on Wikipedia a little too long if you think
Possible WP:PROMO and violation of WP:TOU vet through WP:AFC (via script)
constitutes "a clear message". Everyone has off days, and it's easy to sometimes forget on occasion that one's addressing a new editor and as a consequence slip into gibberish wiki-jargon. That said, use plain English [in the edit summary] rather than cryptic abbreviations has been a part of one of Wikipedia's most respected and adhered-to guidelines for years (although WP:BITE may technically be "just a guideline", it's been de facto policy throughout Wikipedia's history); if I saw an editor making a habit of addressing new editors like this, rather than the occasional slip-up, I'd consider it clear grounds for a block for disruption if they kept it up. ‑ Iridescent 17:49, 28 May 2020 (UTC)
- (talk page watcher) CiaPan, I think you may have been on Wikipedia a little too long if you think
- Thank you for getting back to me CiaPan and Iridescent. I deeply appreciate it.
- I'm not sure what is meant by Undersourced then. I tried very hard to be as detailed with citations as possible. I happen to be a ployglot (I am a native in both English and Japanese and later picked up Russian and Vietnamese), so the sites are very easy for me to understand. I made very certain to look for public news-sources, so as to avoid bias.
- It would be a shame if the article couldn't be put back up. It seems like Vietnamese companies are not well-represented on this website (I live in Hanoi), so I really want to fix that.
- What is the issue that makes it undersourced? Is it that my references are all in Vietnamese and Japanese?
- I'm also not sure what makes it the promotion of business as I've, again, tried to keep things as objective as possible, knowing that this is an encyclopedia and not an advertising network.
- Essentially, I want to ask what is wrong and how I can better improve it so that it meets Wikipedia's standards. KyleVietnam
- Hi KyleVietnam! It looks like your questions have been relayed to other pages, including the Teahouse. Since the Teahouse is a much better venue for having your questions answered, I'm going to point you over to the discussion you started there, since more editors will be able to help you. If you do have any further questions for me, please don't hesitate to let me know. Otherwise, I recommend that you follow-up with your discussion at the Teahouse and take any advice given to you there. :-) Best regards - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 03:15, 12 June 2020 (UTC)
- Essentially, I want to ask what is wrong and how I can better improve it so that it meets Wikipedia's standards. KyleVietnam
Oshwah, this story has continued: I tried to give KyleVietnam some advice on identifying the references so that it would be easier to see how many were valid for determining notability, and there is further conversation on my talkpage and now at the Teahouse; the draftified article got quick-failed with what seem to me rather harsh comments, and since I am a known softie and can't read either Japanese or Vietnamese, I'm not sure what further changes to advise beyond removing of the unsourced 2nd paragraph under corporate responsibility, which appears to have been added by a different editor. I'm on my laptop these days with no Mirc with which to bother you, so updating you here. Yngvadottir (talk) 16:56, 2 June 2020 (UTC)
- Yngvadottir - Okay, thanks for letting me know. I'll just allow those conversations to continue on those pages rather than here, since the Teahouse will be a better venue for this user to receive help from others. :-) Cheers - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 03:13, 12 June 2020 (UTC)
User:Thegooduser/common.css
Can't remember where I got the settings to change the colors of the bell, new message alert, etc. I want to know so I can attribute the author --Thegooduser Life Begins With a Smile :) 🍁 22:50, 30 May 2020 (UTC)
- Thegooduser - I believe that MusikAnimal helped provide the code you were looking for in a discussion on my user talk page. See this archived discussion; if I remember correctly, this is where you got the code from. :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 03:23, 12 June 2020 (UTC)