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October 2024
editWelcome to Wikipedia. I noticed that your username, "๐๐ฌ๐๐ฃ๐ฃ", may not meet Wikipedia's username policyย because it uses Unicode characters resembling but not functioning as ordinary letters. If you believe that your username does not violate our policy, please leave a note here explaining why. As an alternative, you may ask for a change of username by completing the form at Special:GlobalRenameRequest, or you may simply create a new account for editing. Thank you. Remsenseย โฅย ่ฎบ 06:48, 30 October 2024 (UTC)
Introduction to contentious topics
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November 2024
editPlease refrain from making unconstructive edits to Wikipedia, as you did at Creationism. Your edits appear to be disruptive and have been or will be reverted.
- If you are engaged in an article content dispute with another editor, please discuss the matter with the editor at their talk page, or the article's talk page, and seek consensus with them. Alternatively, you can read Wikipedia's dispute resolution page, and ask for independent help at one of the relevant noticeboards.
- If you are engaged in any other form of dispute that is not covered on the dispute resolution page, please seek assistance at Wikipedia's Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents.
Please ensure you are familiar with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines, and please do not continue to make edits that appear disruptive. Continued disruptive editing may result in loss of editing privileges. Thank you. tgeorgescu (talk) 23:02, 7 November 2024 (UTC)
- For the (insert number above 3)th time, what unconstructive edits? You're not an admin. ๐๐ฌ๐๐ฃ๐ฃ (talk) 01:49, 8 November 2024 (UTC)
- I'm not an admin, nor is Remsense. Remsense gave you a warning you should take heed of. If only admins could issue warnings, very few editors would get blocked. It's just not practical. tgeorgescu (talk) 02:14, 8 November 2024 (UTC)
- You literally said that what the admins think is more important than what I think. You didn't specify anything else. Remsense actually gave a valid point and I am waiting for my username change request to be processed. You on the other hand...aren't listening to me. I can reread the rules all you want, and I have read and concluded that my edit wasn't disruptive. If someone came up and said that a scientific study was pseudoscience, then that would be disruptive to science overall. Stop breaking the rules already. ๐๐ฌ๐๐ฃ๐ฃ (talk) 02:26, 8 November 2024 (UTC)
- Here's a rule you should look at: Wikipedia:Sockpuppetry. Have a look at the very first bullet point in the opening section. Drmies (talk) 02:31, 8 November 2024 (UTC)
- Wait I didn't edit ANYWHERE when I was logged out. ๐๐ฌ๐๐ฃ๐ฃ (talk) 02:33, 8 November 2024 (UTC)
- Here's a rule you should look at: Wikipedia:Sockpuppetry. Have a look at the very first bullet point in the opening section. Drmies (talk) 02:31, 8 November 2024 (UTC)
- You literally said that what the admins think is more important than what I think. You didn't specify anything else. Remsense actually gave a valid point and I am waiting for my username change request to be processed. You on the other hand...aren't listening to me. I can reread the rules all you want, and I have read and concluded that my edit wasn't disruptive. If someone came up and said that a scientific study was pseudoscience, then that would be disruptive to science overall. Stop breaking the rules already. ๐๐ฌ๐๐ฃ๐ฃ (talk) 02:26, 8 November 2024 (UTC)
- I'm not an admin, nor is Remsense. Remsense gave you a warning you should take heed of. If only admins could issue warnings, very few editors would get blocked. It's just not practical. tgeorgescu (talk) 02:14, 8 November 2024 (UTC)
{{unblock|reason=Your reason here ~~~~}}
. ย Drmies (talk) 02:33, 8 November 2024 (UTC)Block appeal
edit๐๐ฌ๐๐ฃ๐ฃ (block log โข active blocks โข global blocks โข contribs โข deleted contribs โข filter log โข creation log โข change block settings โข unblock โข checkuser (log))
Request reason:
I was blocked for removing the word "pseudoscience" from an article, then arguing about it with someone who reverted the edit. I wasn't socking. As in, I share a computer. I may have argued too much, but I was still contributing to the encyclopedia, a simple check at my edit history should fix that. Wasn't trolling. ๐๐ฌ๐๐ฃ๐ฃ (talk) 04:57, 8 November 2024 (UTC)
Decline reason:
ย Confirmed and blatant WP:LOUTSOCK, no comment as to the specific IP address involved. This was clearly not done in good faith. It's also very clear you don't understand how Wikipedia works and what our policies say. Yamla (talk) 10:40, 8 November 2024 (UTC)
If you want to make any further unblock requests, please read the guide to appealing blocks first, then use the {{unblock}} template again. If you make too many unconvincing or disruptive unblock requests, you may be prevented from editing this page until your block has expired. Do not remove this unblock review while you are blocked.
- Sorry that I'm jumping into this, but the amount of edit filter tripping by your usernames have already caught my attention. You're saying that, an IP that comes out of nowhere to support you as their first edit is not a WP:LOUTSOCK? Please don't attempt to deceive users, it will just kill your chances of being unblocked. ABG (Talk/Report any mistakes here) 05:03, 8 November 2024 (UTC)
- Yeah, I'm saying a person came IRL and caused trouble. Online, out of nowhere. ๐๐ฌ๐๐ฃ๐ฃ (talk) 17:38, 14 November 2024 (UTC)
Question
editLooking at rules
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Um how do I personally talk to an admin about this? If I don't tell my entire story no one will believe me, but if I put my entire story in an unblock request then it's against the rules. Now what? (why would anyone answer this? I'm not trusted anymore) ๐๐ฌ๐๐ฃ๐ฃ (talk) 16:51, 9 November 2024 (UTC)
- You can leave your entire story in a comment here on this page. Specifically, this is the appropriate place to do so. I'll warn you, though, WP:WALLOFTEXT may apply. It's hard to see how your "entire story" could possibly address your inappropriate edits and your violation of WP:LOUTSOCK, along with your attempt to mislead us about WP:LOUTSOCK. --Yamla (talk) 17:02, 9 November 2024 (UTC)
- You are also going to have to pick a new username in order to be unblocked. See WP:USERNAME. --Yamla (talk) 17:04, 9 November 2024 (UTC)
- Wait wait wait when I try to send a username request it says I can't because I'm blocked. And then I can't become unblocked unless I convince an admin that I'm telling the truth and I change my username...and I can't do that unless I become unblocked. ๐๐ฌ๐๐ฃ๐ฃ (talk) 17:07, 9 November 2024 (UTC)
- You can include your planned new username in your unblock request. Your username is a much smaller issue than the other concerns that lead to your block. --Yamla (talk) 17:11, 9 November 2024 (UTC)
- Ok, thanks! ๐๐ฌ๐๐ฃ๐ฃ (talk) 17:21, 9 November 2024 (UTC)
- You can include your planned new username in your unblock request. Your username is a much smaller issue than the other concerns that lead to your block. --Yamla (talk) 17:11, 9 November 2024 (UTC)
- Wait wait wait when I try to send a username request it says I can't because I'm blocked. And then I can't become unblocked unless I convince an admin that I'm telling the truth and I change my username...and I can't do that unless I become unblocked. ๐๐ฌ๐๐ฃ๐ฃ (talk) 17:07, 9 November 2024 (UTC)
- You are also going to have to pick a new username in order to be unblocked. See WP:USERNAME. --Yamla (talk) 17:04, 9 November 2024 (UTC)
A story
editI wanted to tell my story, so here it is: "oh look wikipedia, i want to make an account...oh no it capitalizes my username...maybe i can put a character that's always lowercase d...oh look unicode symbols!""oh no look my username is bad"*send usename request* *edit edit edit* "hmm...looks like this article could use some improving. But i should talk about it first.""hey look this is controversial may i delete it?"someone else:"no because..." *arguing**arguing* "ok then i will do something smaller so that it still says the same thing but doesn't break the rules." "Hey that's not allowed!" *more arguing* *my little sister comes over irl and causes some trouble* *admin comes over and blocks me indefinitely* *i finally get a response to my username change and it's declined* *i scold my sister irl* *get a block appeal declined because it looks like socking* *i rethink my life* *hoping this story doesn't count as a wall of text* ๐๐ฌ๐๐ฃ๐ฃ (talk) 21:40, 9 November 2024 (UTC)
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Request reason:
I wasn't loutsocking, first of all. Look above. Second, I was trying to build the encyclopedia. I was blocked indefinitely for making a sentence sound less wordy and more neutral. Third, may I have a username of "I am dsJjj"? :Sorry for arguing too much. Maybe I should be blocked for more like 8 years instead of indefinitely, because I just argue too much everywhere.ย :๐๐ฌ๐๐ฃ๐ฃ (talk) 22:19, 11 November 2024 (UTC)
Decline reason:
Per WP:LITTLESISTER. From a checkuser standpoint, this looks like textbook logged-out socking. You may want to consider the Standard Offer. Ponyobons mots 19:23, 15 November 2024 (UTC)
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- I was blocked indefinitely for making a sentence sound less wordy and more neutralโthat's your POV. My reading of your edits is that you were violating WP:PSCI and WP:ARBPS, and several admins seem to agree that my reading is right. tgeorgescu (talk) 23:21, 11 November 2024 (UTC)
- Ahem. Same ideas. It has the same ideas. When I edited that I made sure it had the same ideas. ๐๐ฌ๐๐ฃ๐ฃ (talk) 23:24, 11 November 2024 (UTC)
- When editing Wikipedia one has to think how WP:RULES get applied intersubjectively. So, your own interpretation of your own edits is a very small piece of the big picture. tgeorgescu (talk) 23:26, 11 November 2024 (UTC)
- I think I already know that.
- I don't want to get blocked for arguing...oh wait, I'm already blocked. I think I already know that as well, so I don't think you need to elaborate. ๐๐ฌ๐๐ฃ๐ฃ (talk) 23:32, 11 November 2024 (UTC)
- When editing Wikipedia one has to think how WP:RULES get applied intersubjectively. So, your own interpretation of your own edits is a very small piece of the big picture. tgeorgescu (talk) 23:26, 11 November 2024 (UTC)
- Ahem. Same ideas. It has the same ideas. When I edited that I made sure it had the same ideas. ๐๐ฌ๐๐ฃ๐ฃ (talk) 23:24, 11 November 2024 (UTC)
- I was blocked indefinitely for making a sentence sound less wordy and more neutralโthat's your POV. My reading of your edits is that you were violating WP:PSCI and WP:ARBPS, and several admins seem to agree that my reading is right. tgeorgescu (talk) 23:21, 11 November 2024 (UTC)
Another question
editQuestion below.
Wait what about block appeals?
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I've had a block appeal on my talk page for a while, the thing is, it's a reply to my own topic. Does that affect how admins see it? Another thing: does "assuming good faith" have anything to do with my POV? Am I too annoying? ๐๐ฌ๐๐ฃ๐ฃ (talk) 19:02, 15 November 2024 (UTC)
- You have no open unblock requests. You need to use the template as described in the block notice. I would click "edit" and not "reply" to post your request. 331dot (talk) 19:52, 15 November 2024 (UTC)
Stuff people want to hear
editOk, questions:
Do you agree to the policies? Yes.
Do you think you did anything wrong? Yes, arguing too much.
What do you think of admins? They're trying their best. I tell a true story and it looks false. I don't blame them.
Do you understand the policies? Yes. I've read them so many times that...(insert something here)
Are you open to being asked questions? Yes.
Do you reallyโ Probably yes.
You will not see more edits from 75.164.23.34 the IP address. I'll make sure of that (because I am responsible for it). I don't want to hear any more "it was obvious" "you don't know the rules" and "you are dumb" because I know that is not true. That's just insulting my intelligence and my memory.
๐๐ฌ๐๐ฃ๐ฃ (talk) 23:08, 15 November 2024 (UTC)
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Request reason:
- Ok, now that I have stuff up there...what to say now? Oh yeah, the "disripting editing" thing...all you have to do is go to the page, write the sentence down, and then say it out loud. It's really not that different. An innocent person blocked for a single word and some misunderstanding.
- Thanks for being really polite to me. It means a lot. The admins are trying to keep stuff off of Wikipedia. I understand. Now, I would like my username to be "I am dsJjj" with the "d" lowercase and the "J" uppercase. My username isn't helping things here.
- ๐๐ฌ๐๐ฃ๐ฃ (talk) 17:39, 2 December 2024 (UTC)
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{{unblock reviewedย |1=Hi, I have waited a while, and some questions people may ask me are up there. When I said I shared a Chromebook, that was true. But now, because of past bad people, I have to take responsibility for it. I will. You won't see any sockpuppeting if I can help it. :Ok, now that I have stuff up there...what to say now? Oh yeah, the "disripting editing" thing...all you have to do is go to the page, write the sentence down, and then say it out loud. It's really not that different. An innocent person blocked for a single word and some misunderstanding. :Thanks for being really polite to me. It means a lot. The admins are trying to keep stuff off of Wikipedia. I understand. Now, I would like my username to be "I am dsJjj" with the "d" lowercase and the "J" uppercase. My username isn't helping things here. :[[User:๐๐ฌ๐๐ฃ๐ฃ|๐๐ฌ๐๐ฃ๐ฃ]] ([[User talk:๐๐ฌ๐๐ฃ๐ฃ#top|talk]]) 17:39, 2 December 2024 (UTC)ย |decline = {{subst:Decline reason here}} ~~~~}}
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{{unblock reviewedย |1=Hi, I have waited a while, and some questions people may ask me are up there. When I said I shared a Chromebook, that was true. But now, because of past bad people, I have to take responsibility for it. I will. You won't see any sockpuppeting if I can help it. :Ok, now that I have stuff up there...what to say now? Oh yeah, the "disripting editing" thing...all you have to do is go to the page, write the sentence down, and then say it out loud. It's really not that different. An innocent person blocked for a single word and some misunderstanding. :Thanks for being really polite to me. It means a lot. The admins are trying to keep stuff off of Wikipedia. I understand. Now, I would like my username to be "I am dsJjj" with the "d" lowercase and the "J" uppercase. My username isn't helping things here. :[[User:๐๐ฌ๐๐ฃ๐ฃ|๐๐ฌ๐๐ฃ๐ฃ]] ([[User talk:๐๐ฌ๐๐ฃ๐ฃ#top|talk]]) 17:39, 2 December 2024 (UTC)ย |accept = accept reason here ~~~~}}
๐๐ฌ๐๐ฃ๐ฃ (talk) 17:39, 2 December 2024 (UTC)
- Listen to my sincere advice: if you will return to arguing that creationism isn't pseudoscience, there is no reason for unblocking you. tgeorgescu (talk) 18:03, 2 December 2024 (UTC)