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Music navboxes

Please do not add music venues, record labels, genres, and similar to navboxes for bands/musicians, unless the band/musician has a controlling interest in the topic - i.e. if it's a record label owned by the band, etc. I think you may also have been adding towns where bands come from - this is also not appropriate. --woodensuperman 15:40, 6 December 2018 (UTC)

I disagree with this supposedly being inappropriate, as the histories of many bands include venues, labels, and genres. It's all relevant to the entire picture of a band, especially in the "Related Articles" navbox. If you look at the pages for The Beatles, it lists many important venues and associations with the group, and I think that's a good template for all bands. I added two individuals integral to The Band's history--John Simon and Elliott Landy--as well as two historically important concerts they were apart of. Why would that be inappropriate for their related articles section? The navboxes should be as complete as possible.

Because these labels, venues and people are not specifically and intrinsically linked to a single band. Any entry in a navbox needs to be subject specific. --woodensuperman 09:03, 7 December 2018 (UTC)

With all due respect, I still disagree. If what you claim is true, then why are the various navboxes for The Beatles (just one example out of many) so comprehensive with their own sections for associated people, places, and articles? This should be the standard for all, because all historically significant musical groups have complex histories that intersect with many people and places during their careers. If those said people and places also have Wikipedia pages, then why not link them to convey the larger picture of a bands history? It makes no sense if you're truly trying to present a comprehensive documentation, which is what Wikipedia should be. Also, to say that these "labels, venues and people are not specifically and intriniscally (sic) linked to a single band." is simply unfair to base anything on, because no venue or label is just linked to one group, but many groups formulate their sound and image in them, therefore turning them into a crucial element of their story. This is even more true when dealing with a venue where a specific group holds their first shows (I.E Ramones at CBGB). These are important connections, not frivolous edits and I would greatly appreciate if you refrained from removing them without first questioning me. They aren't spam, malicious or misinformed. I'm editing as a hobby but my knowledge comes from the experience of a published music journalist, for over 15 years.

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