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redirect in R. Stevie Moore navbox

I'm perfectly aware of that, I used the redirect to make sure we get a more realistic picture for the analysis in Talk:Bob Moore (executive)#Requested move 13 February 2024. --Joy (talk) 15:03, 15 February 2024 (UTC)

I'm pretty sure anyone navigating from {{R. Stevie Moore}} will be looking for his father, not the food executive. Besides, any analysis will be completely skewed now by the very existence of the RM. --woodensuperman 15:34, 15 February 2024 (UTC)

That's where the redirect goes, too, there's no change in functionality. --Joy (talk) 18:15, 15 February 2024 (UTC)

Dear friend

Please take a good look at my edits. I'll be busy reading yours. -- Best Jamplevia (talk) 16:53, 4 March 2024 (UTC)

A serious question

You will possibly delete this without answering, but was wondering if you've actually created any navboxes. You dislike so much about them that other editors like, but you put a lot of attention on them. Do you have any favorites that you've created, or keep watch on because they are your favorites? Thanks. Randy Kryn (talk) 13:04, 9 March 2024 (UTC)

I've created loads. I like simple navboxes that are to the point. In fact I created {{Nancy Mitford}} just the other day. --woodensuperman 18:07, 9 March 2024 (UTC)

Didn't know you create them, thanks. The Mitford navbox could use a family section (much of her page is devoted to family). Randy Kryn (talk) 23:40, 9 March 2024 (UTC)

Absolutely not, but there could be a separate {{Mitford family}} navbox to match the corresponding article. --woodensuperman 08:37, 10 March 2024 (UTC)

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Template distribution

Thank you for the clean and full distribution of the various American founding documents navboxes. Nice work. I'm glad you did it, as I don't understand how you were able to distribute the navboxes to the signatory and some of the other pages without editing the page itself (the mysteries of coding above my pay grade). Randy Kryn (talk) 10:42, 15 May 2024 (UTC)

Well, creating redirects from the dedicated signatories navboxes helped. I'd have liked to have been a bit more thorough with checking everything, but hopefully I've caught most of them. I know we've had disagreements about this, but I hope you're happy with the result. It may need further cleanup, as I've tried to retain what was on the original large navbox, but for some there were already dedicated navboxes, so some links may have slipped through the net. --woodensuperman 10:46, 15 May 2024 (UTC)

Yes, quite happy. The full collapsed template was valuable in its connections to the topic (America's founding) but the result exceeded my expectations of distribution concerns. Will double-check some of the pages, thanks. Randy Kryn (talk) 10:56, 15 May 2024 (UTC)

Just to follow-up on this, please make sure {{split article}} attribution is given on each of the templates related to the split. Thanks. Primefac (talk) 12:19, 24 May 2024 (UTC)

@Primefac:  Done, although not sure I've missed something, as links to talk pages actually link back to the template pages themselves. --woodensuperman 12:47, 24 May 2024 (UTC)

I'm a Celebrity

Fair enough, but please do this for Matt Hancock as well, check out Category:Matt Hancock, where you'll see that the 2022 series is included. Thanks, This is Paul (talk) 15:48, 15 July 2024 (UTC)

Thanks,  Done --woodensuperman 15:53, 15 July 2024 (UTC)

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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of @midnight episodes (2013–14)

Hello, Woodensuperman,

I just closed this bundled AFD and when I was looking it over, I noticed that you neglected to inform all of the page creators about this AFD discussion, you only notified one. If you make bundled nominations in the future, please do not repeat this oversight, inform the article creators of every article included in the discussion. Especially with these articles, which had hundreds of edits, it's important that content creators are informed. I think if you use Twinkle to set up the AFD discussion, that program will take care of the notifications. But if it doesn't, then you should leave personal or template messages yourself. Thank you. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 07:42, 28 August 2024 (UTC)

Thanks, and apologies. I used Twinkle, but only for the first one, don't think you can multi AfD in Twinkle. I guess I probably assumed all created by the same editor. If it gets re-instated will nom again properly. --woodensuperman 07:47, 28 August 2024 (UTC)

Deletion of episodes of After Midnight

I'm very disappointed by the deletion of the episode list on the page as it was my only tool to track when new episodes are supposed to be available. But the inconvenience to myself notwithstanding, I think the deletion of the content was incorrect for another reason.

I understand that you consider a "winners list" of a gameshow does not meet the "notability" requirement, but this is a "game show" in name only, and deleting the list of comedians and other celebrities appearing on the show is more akin to deleting a list of the hosts and musical guests on Saturday Night Live. (Yes, After Midnight doesn't have the cultural cachet of SNL, but the point still holds true.)

I ask you to reconsider the removal of information I personally consider critical, and that may actually meet the notability requirements when viewed in the suggested light. Dlairman (talk) 18:20, 3 September 2024 (UTC)

It's WP:INDISCRIMINATE information, and by no means suitable for an encyclopedia. Other tools to track episodes of TV series are available,[1][2] this is not what Wikipedia is for. WP:NOTTVGUIDE. --woodensuperman 08:13, 4 September 2024 (UTC)

U.S. presidents navboxes

Would have been nice and helped if you had kept your comments up. It's become a mess, and right now even Watergate isn't mentioned on Richard Nixon's navbox, and goes downhill from there. The closer may become easily confused by the same points. Since I'm here (thanks for the tea and cakes) there has been discussion at the White House talk page which may interest you (although more of the same) and a point of contention seems to have arisen about president's homes being listed on navboxes (let them try removing Mount Vernon), including the White House, that could use much more input. Thanks. Randy Kryn (talk) 13:58, 4 September 2024 (UTC)

Hi Randy, hope you're well. It's been a while (a good thing I hope!) Honestly, it's a mess, and to unpack everything that editor has commented would take up way too much of my time. Will put my comments back, but I'm not going into it with them, maybe the ANI will resolve the situation. --woodensuperman 14:45, 4 September 2024 (UTC)

Hello, and well, you too I hope. Thanks. I haven't looked at the ANI in a couple days, and better check on it later, thanks for reminding me. Navboxes are god's gift to Wikipedia, or at least a gift from somebody (wonder who came up with the things). Randy Kryn (talk) 14:57, 4 September 2024 (UTC)

Template changes for Arrested Development and It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia

Hi. Could you please explain why you have been removing the colors from the Arrested Development and It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia templates? Is there a guideline or MOS reason for it? Mjks28 (talk) 11:14, 30 September 2024 (UTC)

Yes, WP:NAVDECOR. --woodensuperman 11:23, 30 September 2024 (UTC)

Ok, thanks for letting me know. Since you didn't provide an edit summary, I wasn't sure why you were randomly removing the colors. Please use an edit summary in future to avoid confusion. Mjks28 (talk) 11:26, 30 September 2024 (UTC)

Also MOS:ACCESS and the fact that it isn't clear which are links if you change the colour of the text. --woodensuperman 11:27, 30 September 2024 (UTC)

Is there a reason why The Simpsons and South Park have colored templates when the aforementioned ones don't? Mjks28 (talk) 11:29, 30 September 2024 (UTC)

I can't see a good reason for it. --woodensuperman 11:52, 30 September 2024 (UTC)

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Hello, and a question

Happy everything as we enter into the holiday season, and I hope all goes well. A question, are screenwriter navboxes allowed? I thought of doing one of Dalton Trumbo which would include his screenwriting credits. I know directors navboxes are allowed, and see screenwriting mentions within those, but not sure about the writers themselves. Thanks. Randy Kryn (talk) 13:38, 28 November 2024 (UTC)

Hi Randy, thanks for your kind words, hope you are well too. Seems we haven't interacted for a while, not sure if that's a good thing or not! ;)

The pertinent guideline is WP:FILMNAV, the point being whether someone can be considered a "primary creator" of something, usually that limits it to director and writer, and sometimes producer, and in the case of musicals, the lyricist/composer.

That being said, I think screenwriter only navboxes are rare, but by pure conincidence, I did happen to notice {{Alma Reville}} a couple of days ago. However, as there are novels, etc too, I'd say go for it! --woodensuperman 13:50, 28 November 2024 (UTC)

Not a good thing, as I think you and I are among the few main advocates of navboxes which, from time to time, are under criticism as a unit. We may differ on tidbits of navboxes, but not in their importance to the project. Once in awhile an editor mentions that they should be abolished because they are "not seen on mobile", but countering that is the 30% of English Wikipedia views who view the project on laptop and desktop - many millions of readers a day - who read pages which may include navboxes. When this occurs I've called them "features of original Wikipedia" (classic Wikipedia?). Point is, we may have to stand guard if someone gets serious and tries to remove them (I've had one WMF employee threaten me in person with their removal, which started my paying attention to criticism of the Foundation). If you spot any of these criticisms or outright attempts please ping me.

As for Trumbo, he kind of stands out among screenwriters for several reasons, so I wouldn't make it a "thing" to start making screenwriting navboxes and would even object to many more. But he's kind of a special case, so I may get to that within during the weekend (today is Thanksgiving in the states, and tomorrow's a family birthday, so my attention would be somewhat too divided to put up a medium-size navbox). Thanks for your okay on it though, wanted to run something like that past you. Will let you know when it arrives (my only qualm is adding it to the huge ungamely and justly-criticized stack of navboxes on some films, but it would be an important addition nonetheless given Trumbo's unique history). Randy Kryn (talk) 14:09, 28 November 2024 (UTC)

{{Dalton Trumbo}}, done. Was surprised to see that there were 334 screenwriter navboxes before this one (having seldom worked on screenwriters), and surprised that nobody did Trumbo's out of the 334. A head scratcher (either that or lice, I'm hoping for the former). Randy Kryn (talk) 13:35, 3 December 2024 (UTC)

Well done Randy! I think that of those 334, most of them are not purely screenwriters. A lot of them are directors or known for other disciplines too... --woodensuperman 13:42, 3 December 2024 (UTC)

Thanks. True, just that, thinking of doing a screenwriter's navbox, the first ones I'd think of would be Hitchcock, Welles, Tarantino, Capra, Allen and Trumbo. I find it a strange late-to-the-party template, but at least it got there. He directed one film, I'll add 'Screenwriter/director' as a stand-alone section for that one. Love Roman Holiday, the main reason for doing the thing. Randy Kryn (talk) 13:55, 3 December 2024 (UTC)