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Have done so, not sure why but the ref=name section hadn't had the information filled in on its first mention, so it just came out blank. Thanks for pointing it out SGGH14:40, 28 March 2007 (UTC)
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Could you please explain the reasoning behind this edit? The tag you replaced is the standard one when ref tags are used and the one you placed there doesn't appear to offer anything different. - Mgm|(talk)09:55, 5 April 2007 (UTC)
Sorry for not explaining clearly in the edit summary. The code {{reflist}} is more popularly used (I see it in almost FA articles). Also when the ref list of the article grows longer, the big font size coded by <reference/> will make the article look too long (I assume a lot of information about this cute bear will added hereafter) so I replaced the code. Cheers!(p/s:I'm happy to know a Dutch admin like you because I love the Netherlands so much) Apple••w••o••r••m••13:07, 6 April 2007 (UTC)
Ah, I see. You can do that with the tag I used too as you can see in this edit which would leave open the option of placing the refs in two columns for the browsers that allow it. - Mgm|(talk)14:55, 6 April 2007 (UTC)
Oh, thanks for letting me know another code. But I'm too lazy to write a long one :). If divide the list into 2 columns, I think {{reflist|2}} is OK. But I don't know why it just appears 2 columns in Firefox. Maybe your suggestion will solve the problem. Apple••w••o••r••m••15:41, 6 April 2007 (UTC)
Agent → employee
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Hi Gintar77. I have seen you edit a lot in CIA article. I almost agree with your editing, but I still wonder why you have changed most of "agent" to "employee"? Can you explain it to me? Thanks. Apple••w••o••r••m••14:54, 6 April 2007 (UTC)
Thanks for asking about this. It is a common misconception that someone who is a staff (or even contract) employee for CIA is called an "agent". A more narrow definition, but still incorrect, is that an "agent" is a CIA employee who runs undercover operations. In actuality, any staff employee of CIA is known as an "officer", whether it be an intelligence officer, a case officer, a reports officer, etc. An "agent" is someone, a foreign asset, the CIA recruits to obtain its intelligence.[1] Hope this helps. —Gintar7716:43, 6 April 2007 (UTC)
BTW, I want to promote CIA to good article. However, it still contains trivia section which is suggested to be avoided in a good article. Could you help me to classify and put each piece of information to somewhere appropriately? AW16:45, 6 April 2007 (UTC)
It may be difficult for me to work on the article this weekend since I will be away visiting family for the holiday. But, I'll see what I can do when I get back. By the way, someone added a sentence to the "torture" manual section saying that captives are made to eat feces and drink urine. I highly suspect the manuals say no such thing, but I haven't had time to go through them. —Gintar7716:47, 6 April 2007 (UTC)
Oh, I see now. What a big misconception! Thanks for your clarification. About the CIA article, don't be worry and wish you have a good holiady. Give my best regards to your family members. I'm also busy some days and we will collaborate later. Cheers. (p/s:I sent you message nearly the same time you sent me. How strange.) AW16:56, 6 April 2007 (UTC)
Hi Gintar. It seems that you've come back from holiday. So could you please check throughout the article for me? I've merged the trivia section into the remain parts. I still wonder whether my edits are appropriate or not. Also, I couldn't find somewhere that's suitable for adding the information "On January 25, 1993, Mir Amir Kansi murdered 2 people and injured 3 others in their cars in front of CIA headquarters in Langley. Kansi was later captured and was executed by the Commonwealth of Virginia in 2002." Thus I left it out because it's just an exceptional event and seems not to state anything important (or add it to "Criticism for ineffectiveness?). Comment. AW16:20, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
Actually, I like the way you incorporated the trivia. Good work! Maybe we can add a section about the CIA Memorial Wall. The people killed by Kansi are memorialized there (sources:[2][3]) and that would be a good place to put that information. Additionally, we can probably add info on such notable CIA deaths as Johnny Micheal Spann and William Francis Buckley. Oh, and by the way, the correct spelling of Kansi's name, according to his wiki page, is Mir Aimal Kansi. —Gintar7723:54, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
Thanks. Your idea is good. Writing a new section is the best way to add that piece appropriately (do you think it's funny someone put the image of CIA memorial wall here, in the section about Indonesia). By the way, one of the example you gave me, Johnny Micheal Spann, has already been mentioned in the article. I'm drafting the content now. AW17:59, 13 April 2007 (UTC)
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Hi Rlevse. Do you mind taking time reviewing my new proposed-GA article? The article belongs to Government Agencies and now it stands alone in that section. You can be assured that there're no long-queuing candidates, except for mine. Thanks forward. AW16:51, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
more...footnotes comes after punctuation not before--you're inconsistent here, your footnotes are better but not perfect--make all the web ones look akin too number 80--fill in whatever template parameters apply, fn 53 is all whacked, you don't link solo years, need fn at end of first para in history, sentence on first Nazi agents is too wordy--in fact you have several very wordy and lengthy sentences, see WP:DATE on how and what dates to link, there is no space btwn a period and a foonote, you don't list the heraldry items in the same order that you discuss them, where is the opening parens here -- "called the strategy of tension).", "as many as tens of thousands"--what number is that--were there really that many Nazi agents?, Guatemala needs a summary of the main article, why does this: "Further information: CIA and the war on terror (This article)" say 'this article'?--makes no sense, article is very long--consider more subarticles. Rlevse00:47, 14 April 2007 (UTC)
Hi. I'm trying to improve the article as you suggested. However, I still don't understand some points. Can you explain more clearly about the order of heraldry items? And if Guatemala section needs a summary about its main article, so should Iran need, too? If such, the article will become longer. About "Further information: CIA and the war on terror (This article)", I think it originally means more information would be shown in the section "CIA and the war on terror" in the article itself. However, if it doesn't make sense, I have no problem removing it. AW02:19, 14 April 2007 (UTC)
You list the heraldy as a/b/c but describe them in a/c/b order. Yes, Iran too, but it's not so long that you HAVE to shorten it, just don't add too much. Yes, rm "this article". Rlevse02:23, 14 April 2007 (UTC)
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Hi Appleworm, I hope you are fine. Sorry I didn't reply sooner, I was busy and haven't checked my talk page or wiki email for a month, partly because I didn't expect that there would be messages sent to me during the time I'm not editing. It's so nice to hear from you. Just a note, I'm now back to action. See you around. PeaceNT15:21, 14 April 2007 (UTC)
Welcome back my lazy friend. I've wating for your return for long and finally you've come back. You must have been very busy with your work, right? AW15:26, 14 April 2007 (UTC)
Wow, that was one of the fastest replies I've ever got. Lazy am I? Hmm, probably. I'm feeling guilty because I asked you to be my adoptee and then was off for a month. I've noticed you work here, good job for a newcomer! (You don't seem to need my help anymore). Also, thanks for the welcome back. PeaceNT15:32, 14 April 2007 (UTC)
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Thanks, Peacy. I can't help myself from telling off all my thoughts though I could make the user feel dissatisfied. I have seen you huge contributions yesterday. I have to learn a lot from you, horrible editor. AW04:32, 15 April 2007 (UTC)
Why do you call me "Peacy"? Actually, I'm not comfortable with that name. Call me Peacent if you don't like the caps, please not Peacy... PeaceNT04:36, 15 April 2007 (UTC)
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Your move of the Ophelia pages was in contrary to the concensus reached on the talk page about a year ago, that the main article should be about the character and link to the disambig page. Please revert it. darkskyz06:58, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
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