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Hi, need your help

I saved my password on my brother's laptop accidentally, he's now threatening to change my password. Should that arise I ask that you ask for my Committed Identity String which only I know, while my Committed Identity itself is publically viewable he does not know the string that produces the hash. Regards, —Ғяіᴆaз'§Đøøм • Champagne? • 08:41, 18 September 2010 (UTC)

If he does manage to hijack my account or my account behaves strangely, please do not hesitate to hardblock my account. —Ғяіᴆaз'§Đøøм • Champagne? • 08:44, 18 September 2010 (UTC)

He has also threatened to create spam accounts on the IP I am currently using. I will notify you when this situation ceases and there is no longer a threat. Regards, —Ғяіᴆaз'§Đøøм • Champagne? • 08:48, 18 September 2010 (UTC)

FD, change your password. It doesn't matter if your brother has your old password, if the password has changed ;-) Do it now!!! TFOWR 08:52, 18 September 2010 (UTC)

Alright, I've done that now. Thanks for reminding me TFOWR :) —Ғяіᴆaз'§Đøøм • Champagne? • 08:53, 18 September 2010 (UTC)

About WP:TYPO

What are you supposed to do on WP:TYPO because it doesn't show you what articles you need to fix? Wayne Olajuwon chat 19:26, 18 September 2010 (UTC)

You're right; there's no list. Just fix them if you come across any. WP:TYPO does offer ways to search for an fix typos, though, starting with Wikipedia:TYPO#Methods_for_searching_and_correcting_typos. Airplaneman ✈ 19:45, 18 September 2010 (UTC)

Okay. Wayne Olajuwon chat 00:21, 19 September 2010 (UTC)

Not quite taking off...!

Y'aarrrr! Per your attempt to disamb Thunderbirds in the You Only Live Twice article to Thunder Birds (1942 film) I would like to introduce you to Thunderbirds (TV series). Well worth a watch! :-P Bigger digger (talk) 00:37, 19 September 2010 (UTC)

Whoops! Thanks for catching that :) Airplaneman ✈ 02:01, 19 September 2010 (UTC)

NASCAR related

Hey Airplaneman, I would like to get you opinion if 2010 NASCAR Sprint Cup Series should be moved to 2010 NASCAR Sprint Cup Series season, or should we start with 2011? Nascar1996 01:23, 19 September 2010 (UTC)

Well, if you think the word "season" should be added, then yes, for consistency, all articles should be moved. I am indifferent; adding "season" is more descriptive, but the title "XXXX NASCAR Sprint Cup Series" gets the job done as well. How about asking around at WT:NASCAR? Airplaneman ✈ 05:38, 19 September 2010 (UTC)

I was only wanting one other opinion. Nascar1996 14:29, 19 September 2010 (UTC)

Also, could you help me find images that are alllowed from other webites, or teach me how I can tell if I can and cannot use them? Nascar1996 01:45, 19 September 2010 (UTC)

Most of the time, I would think the images or other media would be copyrighted. Policy pages explain this stuff better and in more detail that I can, so I'll give you some links: WP:FILE, WP:C, and specifically Wikipedia:C#Guidelines_for_images_and_other_media_files. Those are good starter pages, which will lead you to other pages on Wikipedia, images, and copyright. Files aren't my strength, so I may be missing something. Off the top of my head, I know User:Magog the Ogre is a file expert, so try asking him as well if I don't cover everything or I am not making sense to you :). Airplaneman ✈ 05:38, 19 September 2010 (UTC)

Okay Nascar1996 14:29, 19 September 2010 (UTC)

Mentoring

I accepted (requested) a request for mentorship of User:Inka 888. He (or atleast comes across me as a Male) is in trouble for disruptive edits. Any suggestions for advice to give once his one week wikibreak is done? Thanks--intelati^(Call) 04:51, 19 September 2010 (UTC)

Pretty much just to listen to what others have told him in the past, to not take them as being scolded, and to use the suggestions as points to improve on. Of course it's embarrassing when anyone makes a mistake; I can attest to that myself. Even as an admin, I've blundered more than once already. That's pretty much it. Inka, if you're reading this, one of the best things about you is your enthusiasm for the project. We need more of that! Airplaneman ✈ 05:15, 19 September 2010 (UTC)

Thanks. Your on the top of my list for help. :) --intelati^(Call) 05:19, 19 September 2010 (UTC)

Regarding Page Deletion

I am trying to understand why the Theta Alpha Omega page I wrote was deleted. I stated on its talk page that I was the owner of the content that I had "infringed" (thetaalphaomega.com) and that I was pursuing donating said content for public use. I also added the proper hangon tag to the main page. Then, while I was trying to figure out exactly how to notify Wikipedia that I was indeed the registered owner of the content, the page gets deleted. What is the purpose of using a hangon tag if the speedy deletion still happens speedily?

Edit: I gave up on figuring out how to prove I owned the site via email, since the domain has no mail server, and posted the statement of release on the page. Orsonscottcard (talk) 00:22, 20 September 2010 (UTC)

Well, the page can't really exist until you acquire permission for it to. In short, Wikipedia can't risk being sued for hosting copyrighted material, regardless of whether the poster claims that they want to release it. It is a free encyclopedia after all, so non-free material isn't welcome. Once you obtain permission to release your material, feel free to repost. Using a hangon tag does not guarantee temporary immunity to deletion; it just lets the reviewing admin know that the page's creator objects to the page's deletion. Please don't get the impression that I like deleting others' hard work, because I don't. :) Honest. I hope this helps clarify things. Regards, Airplaneman ✈ 00:35, 20 September 2010 (UTC)

P.S. If you'd like to repost using your own writing and the page as a source, please make sure it passess WP:N without question; otherwise, you'll risk getting the page deleted again. Airplaneman ✈ 00:35, 20 September 2010 (UTC)

If you go look at http://www.thetaalphaomega.com/aboutus.htm, the page I "infringed", you will see that I have added the necessary permissions at the bottom of that page. I would appreciate it if the page could be restored so I do not have to recode the info box, etc. Orsonscottcard (talk) 00:41, 20 September 2010 (UTC)

It might just be my browser, but I'm not seeing it. Airplaneman ✈ 00:43, 20 September 2010 (UTC)

It's in black all-caps text directly above the mailing address, following the last line of yellow body text. I'm viewing it in Firefox and I can see it with no problem. It's also clearly visible in the page source, directly below the "footer" tag. Orsonscottcard (talk) 00:48, 20 September 2010 (UTC)

A thread has been started on this at WP:EAR#Proper way to handle problematic deletion. I can confirm I can now see the page has a free licence attached, so G12 no longer applies and the article can be undeleted. Did you clear your browser cache when you reloaded the page? SpinningSpark 01:43, 20 September 2010 (UTC)

It's actually at WP:HD#Proper way to handle problematic deletion. I pointed out the page has a coding error which causes some browsers to not display the license. PrimeHunter (talk) 01:48, 20 September 2010 (UTC)

The coding error has been fixed, so the footer should display properly now. Orsonscottcard (talk) 01:50, 20 September 2010 (UTC)

I have restored the page! Thanks to everyone for chiming in :). SpinningSpark, I didn't see the thread you started (the link doesn't work). Airplaneman ✈ 01:56, 20 September 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for the restoration. I appreciate you being thorough and fair about all of this! Orsonscottcard (talk) 01:58, 20 September 2010 (UTC)

No problem :). Happy editing! Airplaneman ✈ 02:05, 20 September 2010 (UTC)

SpinningSpark linked the wrong help page. It's WP:HD#Proper way to handle problematic deletion. PrimeHunter (talk) 02:01, 20 September 2010 (UTC)

Thanks. I've posted there. Airplaneman ✈ 02:05, 20 September 2010 (UTC)

Yay

We have currently 166 open article submissions, 3 open redirect requests, and 85 open file upload requests. The cabal dictates that you deal with them. /ƒETCHCOMMS/ 03:48, 20 September 2010 (UTC)

I saw the backlog slowly grow over the past few weeks, so I thought it'd be time to try something new! Is there an instruction page that details exactly what to do that would be good to look at, or do I just start? Airplaneman ✈ 03:55, 20 September 2010 (UTC)

Script dash thing

Hi, I just saw this edit that you made to List of Brownlow Medal winners (thanks for the semi-protection by the way) and I had a look at that script thing that you used, but I have no idea how to work stuff like that, so I was wondering if you could run that script over the List of Melbourne Football Club players article, if it's not too much trouble. Cheers, Jenks24 (talk) 06:38, 20 September 2010 (UTC)

Done! User:GregU/dashes.js is really easy to use. Just put

importScript("User:GregU/dashes.js");

in User:Jenks24/vector.js (if you're using the new format). For example, here's mine. After purging your cache, it should work under the drop-down menu next to the watchlist star when you're editing a page. Airplaneman ✈ 22:33, 20 September 2010 (UTC)

Thank you! Thanks for doing that and you won't be bothered by me again, cos, thanks to your instructions, I can now run the script myself :). Cheers, Jenks24 (talk) 04:49, 21 September 2010 (UTC)

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ANI: Ajona1992

Hi Airplaneman! I left a bunch of comment's on User:AJona1992's ANI and I am hoping since you commented earlier, that you can provide feedback, or tell me if I am way off base or whatever you think is suitable. Best, ROBERTMFROMLI ^TALK/_CNTRB 22:35, 21 September 2010 (UTC)

That's awesome! I saw no red flags; you were very kind of you to extend a hand :). Good luck to you both with the mentorship! Airplaneman ✈ 23:02, 21 September 2010 (UTC)

Much thanks and thank you for your comments at ANI! Best, Rob / ROBERTMFROMLI ^TALK/_CNTRB 23:06, 21 September 2010 (UTC)

Hey again, SandyGeorgia brings up a valid point that we may need an admin or admins who agree to be willing to impose the accelerated sanctions if the need arises (which hopefully it wont of course). Hoping if you find all else good with the final proposal, that you would be willing to act in that capacity and indicate such on the ANI page. Much thanks (and I'll try to stop bugging you for a while) :-) Best, Robert ROBERTMFROMLI ^TALK/_CNTRB 03:44, 22 September 2010 (UTC)

I'll be standing by. Airplaneman ✈ 04:22, 22 September 2010 (UTC)

Much thanks, I added a note to the ANI (referring to here) just in case you dont find the time to make your own comment. Best, Robert ROBERTMFROMLI ^TALK/_CNTRB 04:39, 22 September 2010 (UTC)

Force Bill

Airplaneman,

I really don't think it is accurate that the Force Bill was used by any U.S. President in modern history. I searched for it online for a bit, and I could not find any references to it (I am a lawyer, I have some skills wrt such searches).

It seems that the Force Bill wikipedia page is in error. The discussion page has been abandoned since March 2010.

Can we agree to delete the incorrection section?

66.133.220.110 (talk) 03:53, 22 September 2010 (UTC)

Of course. I'll remove it now. It just looked suspicious because you did not explain why you were removing it (you can do so using an edit summary). Sorry if the generic warning I posted (saves time, etc., etc., especially when dealing with loads of bad faith additions when recent change patrolling) seemed a bit harsh. Hope you stick around :). Best, Airplaneman ✈ 04:03, 22 September 2010 (UTC)

Info

Are you a wikipedia addict? (66.222.6.20 (talk) 03:55, 22 September 2010 (UTC))

yes, yes he is.:)--intelati^(Call) 03:56, 22 September 2010 (UTC)

LOL :). I do make sure I keep up IRL, though ;)! Airplaneman ✈ 03:59, 22 September 2010 (UTC)

Category:Murderers of children

Was your revert here actually by a bot, as the IP claimed when reverting you? "Undid revision by Airplaneman's bot, which has no appreciation for this debate." Thanks. Dougweller (talk) 08:55, 22 September 2010 (UTC)

Nope, it was me using Igloo. My diff, their diff. I don't run any bots on my account :). I actually hovered over the revert button for a while, but decided to go ahead with it. Hope this clears things up, Airplaneman ✈ 21:10, 22 September 2010 (UTC)

We Will Bury You

Hi, could you undo your deletion of We Will Bury You (Comics), please, just so I can copy/paste it, and redo it to wikipedia standards? You can obviously delete after. —Preceding unsigned comment added by JonnyOSullivan (talk • contribs) 17:26, 22 September 2010 (UTC)

What would the point be, if I am just to delete it after? It'd be a waste of time for us both, IMO. Airplaneman ✈ 21:20, 22 September 2010 (UTC)

Airplaneman may not be familiar with userfication (copying the code to your userspace so that you may edit it in an attempt to make it suitable for Wikipedia). I'll work on getting it userfied for you. OlYeller^Talktome 19:30, 23 September 2010 (UTC)

Looks like it's already been reposted but you probably already knew that. OlYeller^Talktome 19:32, 23 September 2010 (UTC)

I am indeed familiar with the userfication process; I just didn't see the point in restoring if I was to delete it again. I may have misread; sorry! I see no reason why the current version We Will Bury You (comics) should be speedy deleted. Airplaneman ✈ 21:28, 23 September 2010 (UTC)

Australian snakes

Why do u keep editing my post when I proved an accurate link. Australia does NOT have the ten most toxic snakes. It has 6 of the top 10.

Here a link and please read it. Your deleting my posts and you are completely wrong in doing so.

http://www.venomdoc.com/LD50/ld50sc.html

The many banded krait, saw scaled viper, and congo water cobra are not australian snakes. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.78.238.204 (talk) 00:15, 23 September 2010 (UTC)

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Ref fill

Whoa! Thank you very much for this. I've been meaning to do that for days, but kept forgetting. That's a big help to me. Appreciate it a lot. Paralympiakos (talk) 22:47, 23 September 2010 (UTC)

No problem :). Good luck with the GAN! Airplaneman ✈ 22:50, 23 September 2010 (UTC)

What do you think? ...

Hello again, as of right now how does this article look for GAN then FA? I am considering nominating it for GA, but since your a good reviewer will you please skim over it. Thanks, --Nascar1996 22:58, 23 September 2010 (UTC)

It's a solid article. Two things popped out at me: there's no short summary of the race in the lead. Also, the references to news articles need an author and publication date - use {{cite news}} (remember I mentioned that at my last GA review with you?) If you nominate for GA, I will most likely just stand by, watch, and help make fixes. I'm busy (tired now, but of course, I had to log in :D) and am having trouble reviewing GAs in a timely manner (currently reviewing Talk:Avro Vulcan/GA1). Airplaneman ✈ 23:15, 23 September 2010 (UTC)

Note - before going to FA if you are, make sure to cleanup the "On lap..." and "By lap..." as this would fail 1a. of the FA criteria (choppy prose). Otherwise, consider taking a look at 2008 Japanese Grand Prix which was featured on the main page a month ago. Good luck! Derild4921☼ 23:18, 23 September 2010 (UTC)

I knew you was busy, I just wanted your opinion. Also when you replied, I added the race resummary in the lead. I'll fix the refs next. Also, since Formula One races are a million times shorter than NASCAR races, most of their passing and stuff are on the same lap, unlike NASCAR when the drivers tend to get spread out, which makes the description more spread out. --Nascar1996 23:23, 23 September 2010 (UTC)

That gives you the extra challenge of making sure the prose sounds good ;) Airplaneman ✈ 23:26, 23 September 2010 (UTC)

I most definately can't. Any other ways it doesn't make sense to me. Someone else would have to, if it will become a FA. Nascar1996 23:36, 23 September 2010 (UTC)

2011 NASCAR Sprint Cup Series

Why is it taking a long time for the rest of the 2011 NASCAR Sprint Cup Series races to be announced? Wayne Olajuwon chat 23:35, 23 September 2010 (UTC)

Dunno. Airplaneman ✈ 03:06, 24 September 2010 (UTC)

Okay. Wayne Olajuwon chat 20:29, 24 September 2010 (UTC)

Thank you

I would like to say that I am so thankful that you have come to the AN/I and decided to keep me around. I won't let any of you guys down, I want to keep reaching my goals which is to transform stub articles into GA and FA's which I have almost successfully have done. Thank you, your such a kind person who I am so happy to have meet in my life. Thank you. AJona1992 (talk) 01:37, 24 September 2010 (UTC)

Ron "The Monster" Sparks

My did you delete my page on Ron "the monster" Sparks when I provided an adequate reference and mentioned that he is a member of a major organization? Mattdemers (talk · contribs) 04:51 24 September 2010 (UTC) --intelati^(Call) 04:55, 24 September 2010 (UTC)

Hmm... I can restore it to User:Mattdemers/Ron Sparks (fighter) and help you work on it. It indeed claimed notability, and this was an errant deletion; my apologies. Airplaneman ✈ 01:52, 25 September 2010 (UTC)

New England Immortals

Hi,

Was a bit surprised to see this pop-up on my delete log, as I removed the CSD tag yesterday as it did make a claim to significance, I agree that it might not meet the WP:GNG and if memory serves was tagged as such - thinking that it may be better off goint through AfD ? Codf1977 (talk) 06:50, 24 September 2010 (UTC)

Hi Codf1977 - it was retagged by 24.147.75.86 (talk · contribs) at 00:01, 24 September 2010 (UTC) with the summary "Added db-club tag. Re: Codf1997 -- Not recognized as AMNRL member on AMNRL webpage or wiki page." Upon reflection, the article did claim notability as part of a league. Rest assured, I did do some quick research on this, but I'll be happy to restore it and keep it (no afd or anything) provided that maybe another reference or two be added. Also, the "Players" section will need to be removed or fixed, because it's a direct copy from [1], the only ref. Maybe I could userfy it to User:Codf1977/New England Immortals? Airplaneman ✈ 01:36, 25 September 2010 (UTC)

I have no feeling on the article one way or another, I fell that the re-tagging by the IP was out of processes (for example, repeated re-taging and no notification of article creator). I am also not sure that a list of names like that can be the subject of copyright. Can I suggest a compromise here if it is ok with you - I/we/you ask the WP copyright guru User:Moonriddengirl for comment on the copyvio status, if she feels it is a copyvio then leave it as it is now deleted, if she is happy it is not a copyvio then restore it and I will nom it for AfD ? Codf1977 (talk) 02:38, 25 September 2010 (UTC)

Sounds like a plan! Admittedly, copyrights aren't my strength. My reasoning was that it was a direct copy (format and all); I may be wrong. I will ask her now. Airplaneman ✈ 02:42, 25 September 2010 (UTC)

Thanks Codf1977 (talk) 02:59, 25 September 2010 (UTC)

Hi. :) List articles are a pain. :/ They are copyrightable to the extent that there is creativity in the information or the presentation. The information seems entirely uncreative, but I'm not so sure about the presentation. Presentation is deemed uncreative if it is the bog standard way to present such information and the same way that most people would do it given the same set of facts. I'd agree that the information in each listing (taking #1 for example: "1 (Boston 13s) Lance Gaines: Full-Back ") is probably bog standard, but putting the team first and in parentheses seems a bit unusual to me (given my vast inexperience with sports). I would say that this one falls into the "if in doubt..." standard of WP:C ("If in doubt, write the content yourself, thereby creating a new copyrighted work which can be included in Wikipedia without trouble.") and if I had encountered it on my own, undeleted, I would have reworked it for safety's sake. I probably would have turned it into a table or something and put team affiliation last. I'll leave it to you guys to determine if it's worth restoring. :) --Moonriddengirl ^(talk) 12:25, 25 September 2010 (UTC)

Given that, happy to rework the team name to after the players name (which I agree is more normal) and then nom it for Afd. Codf1977 (talk) 12:40, 25 September 2010 (UTC)

Thank you Moonriddengirl!! I've restored the article. Airplaneman ✈ 20:50, 25 September 2010 (UTC)

Thanks - Have re worked the list, and will nom it for AfD later this morning. Codf1977 (talk) 04:46, 26 September 2010 (UTC)

Another editor has converted it to a redirect, so leaving it as that. Codf1977 (talk) 07:55, 26 September 2010 (UTC)

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Indefinitely protect File:NASCAR practice.jpg

Can you indefinitely fully protect File:NASCAR practice.jpg because it's a highly visible image? Wayne Olajuwon chat 01:18, 25 September 2010 (UTC)

It's actually on Wikimedia Commons, so I can't (not an amin there). Sorry, Airplaneman ✈ 01:24, 25 September 2010 (UTC)

Will you please protect Wikipedia:WikiProject NASCAR/Newsletter/201010? Nascar1996 01:26, 25 September 2010 (UTC)

 Done Airplaneman ✈ 01:28, 25 September 2010 (UTC)

Thanks, what about helping me some (protection) ;) Please and thank you. Nascar1996 01:38, 25 September 2010 (UTC)

 Done! Airplaneman ✈ 01:41, 25 September 2010 (UTC)

Thanks, thats all. :) Nascar1996 01:43, 25 September 2010 (UTC)

Why don't you also protect all of my archives? Wayne Olajuwon chat 02:01, 25 September 2010 (UTC)

 Done!! Airplaneman ✈ 02:08, 25 September 2010 (UTC)

Thanks, Airplaneman! Wayne Olajuwon chat 02:22, 25 September 2010 (UTC)

Add this one to your list too. ;)--intelati^(Call) 02:04, 25 September 2010 (UTC)

That page doesn't belong in a list of archives. Wayne Olajuwon chat 02:05, 25 September 2010 (UTC)

IT was a joke. :)--intelati^(Call) 02:06, 25 September 2010 (UTC)

I know. Wayne Olajuwon chat 02:19, 25 September 2010 (UTC)

appropriate sources

Hello Airplaneman,

How've you been? You were so kind in welcoming me to wikipedia, I thought I'd ask you about this. I've been dipping into wikipedia now and again. Mostly I look for articles I can add value to through research or editing or fact-checking. I happened to see a section of Cher's page with no inline citations. I added a whole bunch, but I found it quite challenging to find verifiable sources. Mostly, the basis for the facts was circular: the sites cut and pasted from the wiki or had completely unsourced material that repeated the same "facts."

I'd really appreciate any suggestions you'd have about this. One of the great things about wikipedia it seems to me is that it's so inclusive. It's a shame when appropriate verifiable sources cannot be found for sections of writing for all appearances are written by someone who knows their subject well and cares about it.

Any thoughts?

Hope all is well.

--AshokaPurr 12:05, 25 September 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ashokapurr (talk • contribs)

Hello! I've been busy but happy, still with enough time to edit daily. How about you? I know it can get quite frustrating looking for reliable refs for articles on subjects without widespread coverage but enough notability for inclusion. Here are some good links I found that may be of help:

• WP:REF
• WP:REFB
• WP:SHARED
• Template:Find sources (use the links provided)

Oh, and don't forget to sign your posts on discussion pages (use ~~~~) . Best, Airplaneman ✈ 21:19, 25 September 2010 (UTC)

SOCCORSO CLOWN

Could you please undelete this article? We have received OTRS permission for it which I can add as soon as it is restored. VernoWhitney (talk) 13:15, 25 September 2010 (UTC)

 Done Airplaneman ✈ 20:34, 25 September 2010 (UTC)

Thank you! VernoWhitney (talk) 20:55, 25 September 2010 (UTC)

question

I tried to install Lupin and it won't do anything, Is there something I'm missing here? --Inka⁸⁸⁸ 02:29, 26 September 2010 (UTC)

Did you purge your cache? According to WP:LUPIN#Usage, "There should now be five new items in your toolbox (just under the Search bar)". Also, make sure your browser is compatible (see Wikipedia:LUPIN#Compatibility). Airplaneman ✈ 03:31, 26 September 2010 (UTC)

Couple questions,

1 how do I purge the catche?

2 does it work on firefox?

--Inka⁸⁸⁸ 04:32, 26 September 2010 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) Everything works on Firefox AFAIK. Access Denied ^{[FATAL ERROR]} 04:39, 26 September 2010 (UTC)

Follow the blue link I gave above: WP:PURGE. There are also directions on your monobook.js page. Airplaneman ✈ 17:53, 26 September 2010 (UTC)

It is still not working I put the code in there and hit CTRL+SHIFT+R and it did not do anything. Do you know what the problem is? --Inka⁸⁸⁸ 18:36, 26 September 2010 (UTC)

<TPS> Try Control+F5. That's what I do and it works. Derild4921☼ 18:57, 26 September 2010 (UTC)

CTRL+F5 is for Internet Explorer. Do you have the most recent version of Firefox (3.6.10)? Access Denied ^{[FATAL ERROR]} 21:20, 26 September 2010 (UTC)

Check your toolbox, and tell me what you see... Airplaneman ✈ 21:22, 26 September 2010 (UTC)

removed whitespace. Airplaneman ✈ 21:36, 26 September 2010 (UTC)

By toolbox you mean, the options up top by the edit tab? Inka⁸⁸⁸ 01:39, 27 September 2010 (UTC)

On the left side of the screen it says Toolbox and under it there should be "What links here", "related changes" etc. Derild4921☼ 01:45, 27 September 2010 (UTC)

Yup. There should be some new links there, as explained on WP:LUPIN, including "Monitor my watchlist". Airplaneman ✈ 02:24, 27 September 2010 (UTC)

I don't have any of those tools. Inka⁸⁸⁸ 02:26, 27 September 2010 (UTC)

Are you sure you're using monobook and not the vector skin? Try creating User:Inka 888/vector.js and adding the script in. Derild4921☼ 02:35, 27 September 2010 (UTC)

Still not working is this how it should look this this how it should look? Inka⁸⁸⁸ 02:56, 27 September 2010 (UTC)

Yes. If it still isn't working, I'm not sure what's up... (looks like there's a thread on your talk about this as well). Airplaneman ✈ 04:39, 27 September 2010 (UTC)

AN/I

Hello. This message is being sent to inform you that there currently is a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. It's located here: [2] Thank you. ROBERTMFROMLI ^TALK/_CNTRB 02:33, 27 September 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for the heads-up. :) Airplaneman ✈ 04:40, 27 September 2010 (UTC)

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