AjAirFlex

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Katherine Hoover

A page in your userspace isn't allowed to be filed in any mainspace categories at all. It doesn't matter if they're "duplicates" or not — the page simply is not allowed to be filed in categories at all as long as it remains in your userspace. Categories are permitted to appear on the page in disabled form, so that they display as text links to the category but do not directly file the page in the category — but if a page in your personal user sandbox is actually appearing in a category as an entry, then that category has to be either disabled or removed, because sandbox pages are not allowed to be filed in mainspace categories. Bearcat (talk) 15:27, 10 January 2022 (UTC)

No. The current list of categories on the page are already disabled, which means they're not a problem. However, if and when you do move the page back into articlespace, then you'll need to take out the colon in front of the word "Category" in each category link so that the page will actually become filed in the appropriate categories — but as of right now, since they're already disabled you don't need to do anything else to them. Bearcat (talk) 01:55, 11 January 2022 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Katherine Hoover (January 14)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by KylieTastic was: Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit when they have been resolved.

• If you would like to continue working on the submission, go to Draft:Katherine Hoover and click on the "Edit" tab at the top of the window.
• If you now believe the draft cannot meet Wikipedia's standards or do not wish to progress it further, you may request deletion. Please go to Draft:Katherine Hoover, click on the "Edit" tab at the top of the window, add "{{Db-g7}}" at the top of the draft text and click the blue "publish changes" button to save this edit.
• If you do not make any further changes to your draft, in 6 months, it will be considered abandoned and may be deleted.
• If you need any assistance, or have experienced any untoward behavior associated with this submission, you can ask for help at the Articles for creation help desk, on the reviewer's talk page or use Wikipedia's real-time chat help from experienced editors.

KylieTastic (talk) 20:13, 14 January 2022 (UTC)

Hello, AjAirFlex! Having an article declined at Articles for Creation can be disappointing. If you are wondering why your article submission was declined, please post a question at the Articles for creation help desk. If you have any other questions about your editing experience, we'd love to help you at the Teahouse, a friendly space on Wikipedia where experienced editors lend a hand to help new editors like yourself! See you there! KylieTastic (talk) 20:13, 14 January 2022 (UTC)

Hey

Sorry, you came on the help chat when I was dealing with my cats.

The problem with your work on the Katherine Hoover draft is that we already have an article on her. You're welcome to integrate your content into that. DS (talk) 02:55, 15 January 2022 (UTC)

Major problem

If the only source for the information is "I went and talked to Hoover's family and this is what they told me, nobody else has this information, it's not been published anywhere," then we can't use it.

Wikipedia can never be the first place the information is published. This is per our general prohibition on original research.

I'm sure you're telling the truth, but it's the general principle. If we allowed "I talked to this person's family after they died, trust me, this is what they told me, I have no reason to lie"... well, people would abuse that. Because humans are terrible. DS (talk) 06:04, 15 January 2022 (UTC)

Why continue editing?

You have been told that Katherine Hoover exists, so why continue editing Draft:Katherine Hoover? Instead, copy/paste content you have into the existing article. Do NOT include interview information. Do NOT include any mention of her unpublished writings (her desk papers). Also, as you clearly have been in direct contact with the family, that constitutes a conflict of interest. The nature of your connection should be described on your User page. David notMD (talk) 09:47, 15 January 2022 (UTC)

Your thread has been archived

Hi AjAirFlex! The thread you created at the Wikipedia:Teahouse, Citations, need a lot of helpt, has been archived because there was no discussion for a few days. You can still read the archived discussion. If you have follow-up questions, please . See also the help page about the archival process. The archival was done by Lowercase sigmabot III, and this notification was delivered by Muninnbot, both automated accounts. You can opt out of future notifications by placing {{bots|deny=Muninnbot}} on top of the current page (your user talk page). Muninnbot (talk) 19:01, 18 January 2022 (UTC)

Do not submit your draft

You have been advised that an article about KH exists. Thus, do not submit your much longer draft to AfC. Instead, merge your content into the existing article. This can involve deleting content from the existing article if you are of the opinion that your references are better. Earlier, you were advised to declare a conflict of interest on your User page, as there is evidence that you have been in personal contact with KH family or others as part of your researching the topic. ( "I went and talked to Hoover's family and this is what they told me.") Do not neglect this declaration. David notMD (talk) 08:12, 19 January 2022 (UTC)

Your not submitting your draft is appreciated. See Wikipedia:Reliable sources for some guidance. "Completed dissertations or theses written as part of the requirements for a doctorate, and which are publicly available (most via interlibrary loan or from Proquest), can be used but care should be exercised, as they are often, in part, primary sources. Some of them will have gone through a process of academic peer reviewing, of varying levels of rigor, but some will not. If possible, use theses that have been cited in the literature; supervised by recognized specialists in the field; or reviewed by independent parties. Dissertations in progress have not been vetted and are not regarded as published and are thus not reliable sources as a rule. Some theses are later published in the form of scholarly monographs or peer reviewed articles, and, if available, these are usually preferable to the original thesis as sources. Masters dissertations and theses are considered reliable only if they can be shown to have had significant scholarly influence." David notMD (talk) 10:16, 22 January 2022 (UTC)

Recent edit reversion

In this edit here, I reverted some information that appears to be a violation of our copyright policy.

I provided a brief summary of the problem in the edit summary, which should be visible just below my name. You can also click on the "view history" tab in the article to see the recent history of the article. This should be an edit with my name, and a parenthetical comment explaining why your edit was reverted. If that information is not sufficient to explain the situation, please ask.

I do occasionally make mistakes. We get hundreds of reports of potential copyright violations every week, and sometimes there are false positives, for a variety of reasons. (Perhaps the material was moved from another Wikipedia article, or the material was properly licensed but the license information was not obvious, or the material is in the public domain but I didn't realize it was public domain, and there can be other situations generating a report to our Copy Patrol tool that turn out not to be actual copyright violations.) If you think my edit was mistaken, please politely let me know and I will investigate. ~~~~ S Philbrick(Talk) 18:22, 23 October 2023 (UTC)

Please forgive my reply to the wrong location. You will see a new topic Katherine Hoover.

Also, if you compare the current list of known compositions within her main article, Each of our compositions is fully cited and there are no copyright violations. For example, If you review the ways to improve a composer's article to increase its grade you will see that they would like to see the duration of the work, how many minutes it takes to play, added. That additional information can be found in the various citations. Other things that they like to see added is inspirations for the art, premier performance info, famous musicians who've performed the music.

I truly hope I can fix this. Any advice is welcome. Thanks, AJ, AjAirFlex (talk) 19:14, 23 October 2023 (UTC)

I think I responded elsewhere. S Philbrick(Talk) 00:22, 24 October 2023 (UTC)

AfC notification: Draft:Lists of Compositions by Katherine Hoover has a new comment

I've left a comment on your Articles for Creation submission, which can be viewed at Draft:Lists of Compositions by Katherine Hoover. Thanks! CurryTime7-24 (talk) 21:43, 24 October 2023 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: List of compositions by Katherine Hoover has been accepted

List of compositions by Katherine Hoover, which you submitted to Articles for creation, has been created.

Congratulations, and thank you for helping expand the scope of Wikipedia! We hope you will continue making quality contributions.

The article has been assessed as List-Class, which is recorded on its talk page. You may like to take a look at the grading scheme to see how you can improve the article.

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Thanks again, and happy editing!

Vanderwaalforces (talk) 10:07, 6 November 2023 (UTC)