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Or the person who sings about it :) But yes that's where the name comes from - the song, that is. I think you're the first to guess. StarM01:49, 23 April 2009 (UTC)
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We don't always agree, but I am behind you 100% on this one. I liked your good search and have done some work on the article. You ever think of joining WP:ARS? Schmidt,MICHAEL Q.00:33, 25 April 2009 (UTC)
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OK, just for the record.. today I purchased a bottle of Bacon Salt. Let me just say it tastes NOTHING like bacon. It's just another hickory flavored seasoning. Even the inventors/company say "There's no bacon in the product". If there IS NO bacon in the product, it can't even remotely taste like bacon. Sorry. That's the fact. As a Southerner - which makes me an authority on bacon.. or at least the taste of bacon - Bacon Salt is an affront to my very existence.
Bacon makes baby Jesus cry. I'm a Southerner (by the grace of God, of course...amen and amen *APK begins to speaks in tongues and bark*), but the thought of eating greasy, hard, pig fat = no maam. Anywho, I've been searching for an image of Tocowa. No luck yet, but APK will keep looking. I was lucky in regards to finding photos for thesetwo ghost town articles. Speaking of deserted places covered in spider webs, how's yo puss been durrin? APKstraight up now tell me04:47, 25 April 2009 (UTC)
Good luck with the Tocowa picture search. I've been looking ever since I created the article. And my poonanny isn't covered in spider webs. That's an impossibility with a "26yo horny all the time chaser twink" as a husband unit. :P - ℅ ✰ALLST☆R✰echo04:58, 25 April 2009 (UTC)
APK doesn't like bacon? Your arteries are happy about that, but your taste buds miss out. I'm not surprised to hear that "bacon salt" tastes nothing like bacon, ASE. LadyofShalott05:01, 25 April 2009 (UTC)
He likes bacon if it comes in the form of a gay police officer, I'm sure of it. And because I was so disappointed in Bacon Salt, I won't even bother buying to try their other creation, Baconnaise - not that I like mayonnaise anyway. Can't stand the stuff. When I cook burgers or make a sandwich, I use Miracle Whip instead. And here's a recipe tip: next time you do mac & cheese (hopefully it's the good kind with the creamy cheese and not the powdery cheese), add in a tablespoon of Miracle Whip with the cheese sauce. YUM YUM! - ℅ ✰ALLST☆R✰echo05:11, 25 April 2009 (UTC)
I'm with me Lady. I hate Miracle Whip as well. There were many reasons I never fit into the redneck society of Eastern North Carolina. Besides the obvious, APK doesn't like most "Southern food." I hate pork chops, mashed potatoes, all types of beans/peas, cabbage, squash, fish stew, bacon, etc. But I looooooove collard greens, hush puppies, deviled eggs, and most casseroles. I'm weird, thanks. (APK goes back to restoring his files, all thanks to an evil computer crash that happened this week) APKstraight up now tell me05:29, 25 April 2009 (UTC)
Thanks, will do. Is there anyway to add the option to choose class and importance? I just tested the Mississippi one and it seems like even more work to use the script to tag the talk page, then have to go back to manually edit the talk page to add the class and importance. Also, a suggestion.. a configuration parameter to only include the projects you want to see in the list. For example, I'm not a member of the Albums project nor do I tag any pages with that project, so a configuration parameter to not show it in the list of projects would be a nice feature. - ℅ ✰ALLST☆R✰echo21:09, 25 April 2009 (UTC)
Thanks; those are both on my to-do list. The code is kind of complicated, but I do hope to add both of those additional features when possible. –Drilnoth (T • C • L) 21:23, 25 April 2009 (UTC)
3O
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Hi. I've removed your request for a 3O since there isn't really any third opinion to be given. From what I can tell, neither you nor the other editor have really discussed the edits; all I see are back and forth reversions amounting to a small edit war. I've started a discussion on Talk:Millsaps College, so you should discuss it there first. Once it's clear that you two are at odds, then request a 3O. Does that make sense? — HelloAnnyong(say whaaat?!)01:58, 28 April 2009 (UTC)
Mississippi State
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Uniform combinations are not alternate uniforms. An alternate uniform is a completely different jersey style. Just like on the NFL wiki-pages, uniform combinations would be a seperate pic. Please do not replace them again. Thank you. JohnnySeoul (talk) 01:58, 1 May 2009 (UTC)
They should be presented in all combinations of their new uniforms in which they are worn. In this case, Mississippi State specifically unveiled 4 combinations. You need to update the image or I will change it again. Thank you. - ℅ ✰ALLST☆R✰echo02:11, 1 May 2009 (UTC)
How is this any different from the NFL wiki-pages? Nobody has ever had an issue with this. Therefore, the regular home/away uniforms only will be placed in the main uniform template. The uniform combinations will be a seperate pic. If you disagree, then we can start a discussion on each NCAA team page instead of changing it back and worth. Like I said, this is the way it was been for every single NFL wiki-page and there is zero justification to diviate this. JohnnySeoul (talk) 02:51, 1 May 2009 (UTC)
The Mississippi State football wiki-page now has a Logo and Uniform section for all logos (past/present), past uniforms, and all uniform combinations. JohnnySeoul (talk) 03:06, 1 May 2009 (UTC)
SSP
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Sorry I just edited Pink's page because I saw the article on Digitalspy stating she was Bisexual. I should of checked the sources stating she wasn't too. But you know Lindsay Lohan is it okay to add the LGBT templates to her page, as she has admitted this and had a relationship with a woman. I'm trying to update the LGBT categories.Raintheone (talk) 00:00, 4 May 2009 (UTC)
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That dang Slap Chop remix won't get out of my head. Do you know what it's like hearing "You're gonna love my nuts..." while trying to sleep? Hmmm. On second thought, you probably do. BTW, it looks eenie weenie. APKstraight up now tell me20:06, 3 May 2009 (UTC)
lmao It always does look eenie weenie from a distance.. then again, objects are closer than they appear in mirrors. - ℅ ✰ALLST☆R✰echo20:10, 3 May 2009 (UTC)
Well, damn. Now I'm gonna be hearing that for days, too. I came here to give you the trout that Icestorm815 suggested, but now I think you should be slap chopped! :D —Travistalk02:30, 4 May 2009 (UTC)
Aaargh. Slap Chop has been in my head for days; it finally seemed to have escaped when I stumbled across your talk page while browsing ANI. I now hold you personally responsible for it being back in my head. Stop having boring tuna, stop having a boring life... ~ mazcat|c11:33, 4 May 2009 (UTC)
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Hi,
Firstly, this parameter was never discussed, and was only actually implemented the morning. Secondly, the exact type of scoreboard used in a stadium is trivial and will rarely be sourced. By adding trivia to infobox templates we dilute their value. I'd prefer for this param to be removed again until such point as there is consensus that it's a useful addition. Chris Cunningham (not at work) - talk13:28, 5 May 2009 (UTC)
Does it really make sense to need consensus for something that is OPTIONAL? Seriously? It's an optional parameter so no one has to, or is being forced to use it, and as such, why does it hurt anyone to have the option in the template? Did you go see the parameter live in action at Vaught-Hemingway Stadium and see in the actual article where it's sourced? Sources are generally well found for scoreboards, especially when they are replaced with big multi-million dollar high tech ones as the case was with Vaught-Hemingway Stadium. -ALLST✰R▼echowuz here @19:49, 5 May 2009 (UTC)
It "hurts" because, as previously stated, it's trivia which isn't going to be commonly-sourced. That it can be made optional does not imply that it is free, because it encourages people to add trivia to templates. But to be honest I'm not really that bothered - it does need to be re-added to the doc page, however. Chris Cunningham (not at work) - talk13:03, 6 May 2009 (UTC)
Wikipedia and bias
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All the cites go back to Gossip Boy, which has yet to confirm that they actually spoke to the actor himself. His publicist denies the story happened, if you read the talk page for the Wiki article, and asked to have the mention removed. I've been trying to get corroboration from Gossip Boy editors and am still waiting. Portia327 (talk) 01:06, 7 May 2009 (UTC)
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What exactly is this "layout purposes" you are referring to? Wikipedia images are mostly supposed to follow the standard thumbnail layout (that is the whole purpose of the standard, right?). Only when it doesn't work, you need to put in additional size parameters. Try using the "upright" code, if you like. But, making images smaller than your eyeball serves no purpose at all. And, please, conduct article discussions on article talk pages, not on your talk page. That way it's more visible to third parties, and are more helpful in building a consensus in case of a dispute. Aditya(talk • contribs)14:15, 7 May 2009 (UTC)
If you can't see the layout problems that too many images at undefined size causes, you need new eyeballs. As for the "if it aint broke, don't fix it" smartassness in your edit summary.. it is broke, so I was trying to fix it. You must think I'm a newb? At any rate, it's hardly worth spending any more of my time over so carry on, move along, nothing to see here. -ALLST✰R▼echowuz here @15:20, 7 May 2009 (UTC)
AN thread
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AllStarecho, I've been operating with the premise to become an enormous nuisance to Grockl due to his flagrant conflict of interest with pulsatile irrigation. My friends and I were having fun with it by making prefuse homosexual references on his talk page as well as the talk page of administrators that got in our way.
I grew up in a place where, frankly, we don't have any homosexuals. None. If there are any, they certainly do not come out as it would likely endanger them. One of my friends came out, and he was sent to special school for several years. I was raised in an environment where comments like the ones I made on Grockls page are considered funny and insulting. Among my friends, it is practically a reflex.
When we discovered that we had unknowingly directed our remarks at an individual that is actually gay, we were horrified. Please know that these comments were made blindly without thinking. My friends and I are good people, but we learned a huge lesson today. I can assure you that this was a huge wakeup call for us. I feel like I should kill myself. I won't make comments like this again, and I can assure you that I don't find them funny anymore.
I'm trying to make this is sincere as I can, but I'm not sure what to even say. I've never felt so ashamed of myself in my life. As mentioned by other editors, I can't even imagine the discrimination you have endured. I do not ever want to make another human being feel pain because of a part of their identity that cannot, and should not, be changed.
Some of the files are copyrighted, some aren't. The ones that are, I left the Csd tag on them. No lie, when I was "new" to Wikipedia, I did stupid stuff like this. Thanks for pointing out these old uploads of mine. I wonder if there's a way to go back and look at all file uploads by a user so that I can correct any more of that dumbness I did? -ALLST✰R▼echowuz here @17:19, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
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I have reported the above editor's recent image tagging edit war behavior to AN/I, here. Please direct any comments on the subject there now. Thanks, Wikidemon (talk) 07:29, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
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I liked the picture - actually you are sort of right - I *do* think there is a cabal but I think that about *every* subject area here. I think that articles tend to work best when they have a mixture of people who are passionate about a subject and those who don't care or look at it with a more analytical eye. The fighting between the two then leads to better quality articles. Take the Violence article - that's better sourced now from me asking difficult questions. So I do think that the editors at the LGBT wikiproject will close ranks but I'd think the same of the gundam project or the House project or the Newcastle FC wikiproject. Don't confuse that to mean I think that those issues have an equal *importance* to a LGBT or other civil rights issues in a real world context but that the nature of people forming sub-organisational groupings such as wikiprojects lends itself to the development of cultures which start to think "this is how we do thinks here". Where I think it's slightly more problematical with emotive issues such as race, civil rights or the LGBT experience is that, by their very nature, they tend to attract people who a) are strongly affected by the issues or b) are homophobes, racists etc and the two tend to butt heads. Am I saying that I'm a homophobe or a bigot - no - but I know I am a blunt rude prick, so I can understand the confusion... --Cameron Scott (talk) 19:25, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
Interesting. Yes, Cameron, there is a need for different viewpoints, otherwise debate becomes a kind of warm fuzzy fest, with everyone agreeing, nodding their heads, and not really looking at issues. And that is clearly more comfortable. Some of what I have learned in life (life experience) is the result of others disagreeing with me, or bumping into reality walls, which forces self appraisal and growth. We don't grow and develop unless we expand our comfort boundaries and learn what doesn't work, and that goes for editing articles and debating them here as well. Good comments about the existence of cabals. I think that there are POV warriors that come here and try to slant articles, and groups of articles, one way or the other. Including commercial article, and controversial and hot button political, sexuality, and religious related articles. And despite that fact they they may not belong to a Wikiproject, they are effectively cabals also. These are facts of life. However, one of the marks of a good editor is to recognize that one brings cultural and experiential biases and filters to the table, and to then do one's best to overcome them. It's not easy, as our culture tends to value competition and winning above all else. See Winning isn't everything; it's the only thing. This is why I value editing here, as it tends to encourage editors more toward collaborative and consensus building efforts. If they are willing. Clearly there are multiple forces at work here. — Becksguy (talk) 12:41, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
FYI
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The "relist" tag is added whenever an AFD is extended for another 7 days. It doesn't require that the AFD be "closed" or "delisted". It's standard practice to use this tag when extending a discussion and if you view any AFD log such as this one you will see numerous discussions with the same tag. See Wikipedia:Deletion_process#Relisting_discussions for more information. --Ron Ritzman (talk) 02:17, 13 May 2009 (UTC)
I've reverted your closure for a couple of reasons - it seems widely agreed that non-admins should only ever close things that are clearly keeps, and it hasn't run the full 7 days since it was relisted. Thanks. Delicious carbuncle (talk) 11:29, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
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Thanks for your second non-admin closure. if User:DreamGuyre-opens yet again, perhaps an Admin will step in and settle the matter once and for all. I appreciate your recognizing my diligent search in the first instance, and my expansion and sourcing in the second and the nominator's wish to withdraw. Best regards, Schmidt,MICHAEL Q.18:54, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
Well, as the article now stands, its a keeper. I appreciate your proper boldness, specially as User:DreamGuy should not have reversed the first closure due to his involvement in the AfD. I thought this more worrisome as he in no way acknowledged the results of my own diligent search per WP:AFTER or the article's improvements through WP:CLEANUP. Good call and keep up the terrific work. Thanks, Schmidt,MICHAEL Q.19:37, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
Naomi King
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Please see User_talk:Debresser#Naomi_King where I had a short conversation with one of the editors of this article about the LGBT category. I argued - contrary to you - that her being gay herself might not be sufficiently established. I propose to continue the conversation there. Debresser (talk) 10:39, 13 May 2009 (UTC)
This subject has been dealt with by another user, who provided a reference to her personal webpage where she says she is gay.
Yes, I am unable to find anything. While all the signs are there as to his involvement in the LGBT community and him being highly regarded in LGBT related film, there's just nothing that says "this person is gay and out". I'd suggest removing the any related categories. -ALLST✰R▼echowuz here @18:38, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
That was my problem also. So technically you are right, and the cat should be removed. Personally I dislike removing unsourced information when I feel it is true, just because it is unsourced. In such cases I implement the old Jewish saying: sit and do nothing. Debresser (talk) 18:29, 16 May 2009 (UTC)
Thanks for adding that sig
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I believe there should be much more information available to expand the section and eventually fork it out as stand alone article. So far I haven't been able to get anyone to lend a hand. On my own it's kinda difficult, though I don't plan to retire from the hard work yet. Would you mind if I request you to collaborate on that particular section? The rest of the article is way easier, I guess. Aditya(talk • contribs)03:27, 18 May 2009 (UTC)
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I have inserted a pruned version of the article into the main text on the article for the Campaign for Homosexual Equality in the appropriate place, and once I got rid of the rhetoric it was substantially smaller. So, the original one can go, or be used to redirect.
I have created a draft page for the 1971 GLF action at the 'Festival of Light', and it is here: GLF 1971 Festival of Light zap.
Could you have a quick look over it, see if it looks OK, and if you and Benji are OK with it, I will create a new article for it. Thanks Mish (talk) 23:27, 18 May 2009 (UTC)
It looks ok to me except for the lede.. someone will no doubt have an issue with that intro. WP:PEACOCK. Also, I fixed the license issue on the image you uploaded at commons, File:Ink glf cover.jpg. You didn't have a license on it so it would have been deleted shortly. I can't say the license I used is the correct one but it seems to be the best and most related one according to commons:Commons:Copyright_tags. -ALLST✰R▼echowuz here @00:33, 19 May 2009 (UTC)
Thank you~
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No problem. However, since you changed the license, there's no need in a FUR since it's a free image and not under non-free fair use. Just FYI. -ALLST✰R▼echowuz here @09:58, 20 May 2009 (UTC)
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I noticed your edit to his talk page. I just noticed him yesterday with his edit to Matt Sanchez. This user has to be a sockpuppet of someone, possibly Eleemosynary. Look at his contributions - his very first edit was accusing another editor of sockpuppetry. LadyofShalott15:13, 21 May 2009 (UTC)
I agree. I had planned on filing a sock investigation for him as well, once the Bluemarine one get's finished. But feel free to do it youself. ;] -ALLST✰R▼echowuz here @15:16, 21 May 2009 (UTC)
Right now I'm just watching. I'm not sure what evidence to present other than that first edit. If you have thoughts on it, go ahead. (Please let me know if you do!) LadyofShalott16:22, 21 May 2009 (UTC)
BTW, if you haven't notified Bluemarine and Durova (as his mentor) of the SPI case about him, you probably should. :) LadyofShalott16:31, 21 May 2009 (UTC)
I've notified Durova. As his mentor, she can notify him. I imagine she will have to proxy for him since he's still banned and therefore technically, while not blocked, unable to edit anywhere, including the SI page. -ALLST✰R▼echowuz here @16:45, 21 May 2009 (UTC)
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I know I've felt like you probably do now, that you're the only one with any brains. I've found that the only thing that helps is ignoring it for a few days, then returning and rereading the discussions. If you still feel you're the only one that's right...oh well, you can't win them all --NE215:45, 23 May 2009 (UTC)
attack on LP removed
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That's been on my userpage for well over a year, maybe even close to 2 years now, and has nothing to do with his or my interaction here on Wikipedia. Besides, it's not an attack, it's a comment I made around that time. People found it funny and quoted it elsewhere at the time so I preserved it here via a quotebox. -ALLST✰R▼echowuz here @05:50, 23 May 2009 (UTC)
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My RfA
Thank you for participating in my "RecFA", which passed with a final tally of 153/39/22. There were issues raised regarding my adminship that I intend to cogitate upon, but I am grateful for the very many supportive comments I received and for the efforts of certain editors (Ceoil, Noroton and Lar especially) in responding to some issues. I wish to note how humbled I was when I read Buster7's support comment, although a fair majority gave me great pleasure. I would also note those whose opposes or neutral were based in process concerns and who otherwise commented kindly in regard to my record. I recognise that the process itself was unusual, and the format was generally considered questionable - and I accept that I was mistaken in my perception of how it would be received - but I am particularly grateful for those whose opposes and neutrals were based in perceptions of how I was not performing to the standards expected of an administrator. As much as the support I received, those comments are hopefully going to allow me to be a better contributor to the project. Thank you. Very much. LessHeard vanU (talk) 19:47, 24 May 2009 (UTC)
~~~~~
Well, back to the office it is...
U2 and IPs
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I just declined a bunch of your taggings on IP talk pages. Please note that U2 does specifically exclude IP addresses. If someone left an incorrect sock-template on such pages, just blank them instead. Regards SoWhy20:49, 24 May 2009 (UTC)
Just to be sure: Do you have that problem just now? (when I don´t)
Anyway, sorry for the inconvenience, I couldn´t be aware of the existence of this strange problem, I hope we could fix it as soon as possible. - Damërung...ÏìíÏ..._ΞΞΞ_. -- 22:31, 24 May 2009 (UTC)
Well... I´m not sure, but I think it´s broken (see that there is also a userbox (this user has two words for homophobes) overlaping the main image). p.s. Can you see the typeface of my signature? (it should look like this). p.p.s. You can use my shoutbox, as a gift (the source code in your page if you want). - Damërung...ÏìíÏ..._ΞΞΞ_. -- 04:47, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
