User talk:Bender235/2021 archive

Happy New Year!

Walter Elmer Schofield, Across the River (1904), Carnegie Museum of Art.		Best wishes for a safe, healthy and prosperous 2021.
		Thank you for your contributions toward making Wikipedia a better and more accurate place. BoringHistoryGuy (talk) 15:18, 26 December 2020 (UTC) Oneupsmanship: This painting turned the friendly rivalry between Edward Redfield and Elmer Schofield into a feud. Schofield was a frequent houseguest at Redfield's farm, upstream from New Hope, Pennsylvania, and the two would go out painting together, competing to capture the better view. Redfield served on the jury for the 1904 Annual Exhibition of the Carnegie Institute; at which, despite Redfield's opposition, Across the River was awarded the Gold Medal and $1,500 prize. It was not until a 1963 interview that the 93-year-old Redfield revealed the painting as the cause of the 40-year feud between them. Schofield may have painted it in England, but a blindsided Redfield knew that it was a view of the Delaware River, from his own front yard!

www.annualreports.com

Can you http://www.annualreports.com^(links) to your bot. Thanks --Nintendofan885^{T&Cs apply} 16:06, 12 January 2021 (UTC)

Sure can do. --bender235 (talk) 18:08, 12 January 2021 (UTC)

Looking for help cleaning-up Library of Congress Permalinks that are being tagged with markup as dead-links Comment

I was working through a dead-link clean-up list when I ran across a series of articles where permalinks to the Library of Congress were being marked as dead-link because the LoC now uses HTTPS and the URLs were using HTTP. It seems that you have a Bot that works on that issue. All the permalink URLs have a similar format to this link http://lccn.loc.gov/n50040087, the only difference being that the last element is a different string. Is this something your Bot can do? The list I was working on where I noticed it was at the dead-link clean-up list for Women Writers Thanks, IdRatherBeAtTheBeach (talk) 04:51, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

I just tried a link search; it seems most of http://lccn.loc.gov/ links are coming from citation templates. Which ones exactly are dead links? --bender235 (talk) 18:17, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

Bot deletes "="

Hi Bender235. Could you take a look at this edit by your bot? It removed the "=" while replacing a link with its secure equivalent. --Bsherr (talk) 06:42, 19 February 2021 (UTC)

Oh shoot. That wasn't supposed to happen. I'll take a look.--bender235 (talk) 15:36, 19 February 2021 (UTC)

urlhttps

All gone now Lotje (talk) 17:38, 19 February 2021 (UTC)

Indeed. Thanks for the help! --bender235 (talk) 17:40, 19 February 2021 (UTC)

Thank you both! --Bsherr (talk) 22:27, 19 February 2021 (UTC)

https request

Wikipedia:Link_rot/URL_change_requests#Bot_might_convert_links_to_httpS?. This request arrived at WP:URLREQ, my bot isn't set up for generalized HTTPS work. -- GreenC 17:14, 19 February 2021 (UTC)

Will do. --bender235 (talk) 17:16, 19 February 2021 (UTC)

BOT problem

Hello, there appears to be a problem with the BOT removing the = from the |url= parameter in this edit. Keith D (talk) 23:39, 19 February 2021 (UTC)

Dang it. Same problem as above. I'll fix it. --bender235 (talk) 00:02, 20 February 2021 (UTC)

StarWars.com

Wikipedia:Link_rot/URL_change_requests#StarWars.com -- GreenC 19:03, 25 February 2021 (UTC)

A great thank you to Bender's owner.

Thank you for this bot. This is a long and tedious task that i HATE DOING. This bot is a great help.

Sincerely, Chewie1138. Chewie1138 (talk) 03:03, 4 March 2021 (UTC)

I also consider the bot to be very useful. Thank you for creating and running it! Nuretok (talk) 06:50, 23 July 2022 (UTC)

Taylor Lorenz

Got your message about the discussion related to the birth date/year for Taylor Lorenz. Unlike the case that I worked on for Vernon Jarrett, I'm unable to research authoritative sources about her. I was able to research Vernon Jarrett easily, since I have access to historical documents (SSDI, census records) that lend credence to setting disputed information. Since Taylor Lorenz is far younger, none of those resources are available. The only way to document the probable birth year for anyone born later than the census releases is to rely on public information that the person (or someone close to that person) decides to release. BTW, the federal government releases census records 72 years after the census date (April 1), and the latest U.S. census is 1940.

A quick google search shows this information about Taylor Lorenz, although I cannot vouch for whether this information is valid. I'm also assuming that the name she uses is her birth name.

https colon slash slash www dot famousbirthdays dot com slash people slash taylor hypen lorenz dot html

--and--

https://www.google.com/search?q=taylor+Lorenz+birth+date&oq=taylor+Lorenz+birth+date&aqs=chrome..69i57j69i60.6342j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

I would not bet on either site giving valid information, given that there was an article swirling about as to how old she really would be.

https://freebeacon.com/satire/taylor-lorenz-age-investigation/

According to her website at http://www.taylorlorenz.com, Taylor Lorenz states that she lives in Los Angeles, California. So, I looked up possible leads on the truepeoplesearch.com website based on known, public information. On this website, I also did a generic search without referring to a city for the states of California (where she currently lives), Connecticut (where she was born/grew up), Washington, DC (where she lived for a short while), New York (where she lived for a while), and Colorado (where she went to college) along with separate searches on Los Angeles, CA, Brooklyn, NY, and New York, NY (found info at https://www.apartmenttherapy.com/taylor-lorenz-400-square-foot-brooklyn-apartment-36724339 that featured her rented apartment where she lived at that time). Based on the stated birth year in article (1984), some search results pointed to a person between 31 and 35 years old, which would put the birth year somewhere between 1986 (1985 if the birth date falls later this year) and 1990 (1989 if the birth date falls later this year).

That's the public information that I can see, given the limitations for record searches involving living people. Anything else requires payment for access to restricted databases that reveal far more personal information. →Lwalt ^♦ talk 17:05, 21 March 2021 (UTC)

This should probably be posted on Talk:Taylor Lorenz#Birthdate. The VPP discussion where I pinged you was more generally about the question of whether the type of research we did for Vernon Jarrett would be WP:SYNTHESIS or not. --bender235 (talk) 19:10, 21 March 2021 (UTC)

Blogspot

Hi, can you run your bot on *.blogspot.com

There's also these country specific domains

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Thanks --Nintendofan885^{T&Cs apply} 16:04, 27 March 2021 (UTC)

List of International Mathematical Olympiad participants

Hello. Can you briefly outline the criteria used for the naming of the participants as you turned the list into a table? It seems to me that you were placing the names from the original list. You also added further names yourself. May I know:

1. How did you get the necessary info (and verify them)? Is there an official database?
2. Would it be better to organize it in terms of the medals while maintaining the table format?

As a participant, I'd love to have it sorted out soon! and im also salty that I'm not on there Happy 2021 Eumat114 (Message) 02:21, 6 May 2021 (UTC)

That list simply compiles publicly available information, therefore is factually incomplete. The birthdates of the ones in the list essentially all come from their respective WP biographies. --bender235 (talk) 02:28, 6 May 2021 (UTC)

How about the restructuring of the table i mentioned in #2? Happy 2021 Eumat114 (Message) 03:26, 6 May 2021 (UTC)

This is what I intend to do:

Version 1: add medal bar

Name	Team(s)	Year	Awards	Age (on last day of IMO)
Terence Tao	Australia	1986	Bronze	10 years, 363 days
Raúl Chávez Sarmiento	Peru	2009	Bronze	11 years, 271 days
Terence Tao	Australia	1987	Silver	11 years, 364 days
Tsz Fung Chui	Hong Kong	2020	Silver	12 years, 156 days
Akshay Venkatesh	Australia	1994	Bronze	12 years, 241 days
Yeoh Zi Song	Malaysia	2014	Bronze	12 years, 245 days
Raúl Chávez Sarmiento	Peru	2010	Silver	12 years, 263 days
Terence Tao	Australia	1988	Gold	13 years, 4 days
Jeremy Kahn	United States	1983	Silver	13 years, 259 days
Raúl Chávez Sarmiento	Peru	2011	Gold	13 years, 273 days
Pawel Kröger	East Germany	1972 P	Perfect Score	13 years, 354 days
Ömer Cerrahoğlu	Romania	2009	Gold	14 years, 80 days
Jeremy Kahn	United States	1984	Silver	14 years, 258 days
Lisa Sauermann	Germany	2007	Silver	14 years, 309 days
Noam Elkies	United States	1981 P	Perfect Score	14 years, 329 days
Aleksandr Khazanov	United States	1994 P	Perfect Score	15 years, 77 days
Sergei Konyagin	Soviet Union	1972 P	Perfect Score	15 years, 83 days
Simon P. Norton	United Kingdom	1967	Gold	15 years, 135 days
Vladimir Drinfeld	Soviet Union	1969 P	Perfect Score	15 years, 156 days
Yuliy Sannikov	Ukraine	1994 P	Perfect Score	15 years, 259 days

Version 2: V1+ sort by medal instead

Name	Team(s)	Year	Awards	Age (on last day of IMO)
Terence Tao	Australia	1986	Bronze	10 years, 363 days
Raúl Chávez Sarmiento	Peru	2009	Bronze	11 years, 271 days
Akshay Venkatesh	Australia	1994	Bronze	12 years, 241 days
Yeoh Zi Song	Malaysia	2014	Bronze	12 years, 245 days
Terence Tao	Australia	1987	Silver	11 years, 364 days
Tsz Fung Chui	Hong Kong	2020	Silver	12 years, 156 days
Raúl Chávez Sarmiento	Peru	2010	Silver	12 years, 263 days
Jeremy Kahn	United States	1983	Silver	13 years, 259 days
Jeremy Kahn	United States	1984	Silver	14 years, 258 days
Lisa Sauermann	Germany	2007	Silver	14 years, 309 days
Terence Tao	Australia	1988	Gold	13 years, 4 days
Raúl Chávez Sarmiento	Peru	2011	Gold	13 years, 273 days
Ömer Cerrahoğlu	Romania	2009	Gold	14 years, 80 days
Simon P. Norton	United Kingdom	1967	Gold	15 years, 135 days
Pawel Kröger	East Germany	1972 P	Perfect Score	13 years, 354 days
Noam Elkies	United States	1981 P	Perfect Score	14 years, 329 days
Aleksandr Khazanov	United States	1994 P	Perfect Score	15 years, 77 days
Sergei Konyagin	Soviet Union	1972 P	Perfect Score	15 years, 83 days
Vladimir Drinfeld	Soviet Union	1969 P	Perfect Score	15 years, 156 days
Yuliy Sannikov	Ukraine	1994 P	Perfect Score	15 years, 259 days

Version 3: V1 but with "sub-headings" instead of award column (can't allow sorting until I know how to fix)

Name	Team(s)	Year	Age (on last day of IMO)
Bronze
Terence Tao	Australia	1986	10 years, 363 days
Raúl Chávez Sarmiento	Peru	2009	11 years, 271 days
Akshay Venkatesh	Australia	1994	12 years, 241 days
Yeoh Zi Song	Malaysia	2014	12 years, 245 days
Silver
Terence Tao	Australia	1987	11 years, 364 days
Tsz Fung Chui	Hong Kong	2020	12 years, 156 days
Raúl Chávez Sarmiento	Peru	2010	12 years, 263 days
Jeremy Kahn	United States	1983	13 years, 259 days
Jeremy Kahn	United States	1984	14 years, 258 days
Lisa Sauermann	Germany	2007	14 years, 309 days
Gold
Terence Tao	Australia	1988	13 years, 4 days
Raúl Chávez Sarmiento	Peru	2011	13 years, 273 days
Ömer Cerrahoğlu	Romania	2009	14 years, 80 days
Simon P. Norton	United Kingdom	1967	15 years, 135 days
Perfect Score
Pawel Kröger	East Germany	1972 P	13 years, 354 days
Noam Elkies	United States	1981 P	14 years, 329 days
Aleksandr Khazanov	United States	1994 P	15 years, 77 days
Sergei Konyagin	Soviet Union	1972 P	15 years, 83 days
Vladimir Drinfeld	Soviet Union	1969 P	15 years, 156 days
Yuliy Sannikov	Ukraine	1994 P	15 years, 259 days

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Which do you prefer? Thanks. Happy 2021 Eumat114 (Message) 08:05, 6 May 2021 (UTC)

Version 3 looks nice, but I think being able to sort by medal is useful. In that case, I would prefer V1. --bender235 (talk) 14:18, 6 May 2021 (UTC)

HTTPs by default

Hello.

I'm concerned about the mission to convert all llinks to https by default. There are legitimate reasons to use HTTP instead of HTTPS. Not least the computational costs of encryption, which might make the experience worse for cheap, simple devices, in turn making devices more expensive, and generally promoting a computational arms-race. Have you done any testing on lower end devices to ensure you are not degrading the quality of their experience?

It's worth noting that websites that offer both versions, have chosen not to upgrade connections to https, and editors who link in http, have also chosen not to upgrade to https, I'm also concerned about the automatic overridding of two fairly reasonable decisions made on a case by case basis.

Regards, Tomás. --TZubiri (talk) 23:54, 14 May 2021 (UTC)

The issue was discussed back in 2015, consensus was that converting links to HTTPS is a good idea. The privacy and security benefits easily outweigh any performance concerns. Also, most sites are much quicker via HTTPS than via HTTP (more info see here). I presume the percentage of Wikipedia users whose device is "too cheap and simple" for HTTPS is zero, since Wikipedia itself is HTTPS by default since 2015. Another point: being one of the most popular websites in the world, Wikipedia creates considerable inbound traffic for many websites, most of whom are very much interested in HTTP referer information (see for instance this request by Newspapers.com). Referring information is not transmitted from HTTPS→HTTP, only HTTPS→HTTPS. --bender235 (talk) 00:41, 15 May 2021 (UTC)

Commons http

Hello, I noticed your bot changing http links to https. I wonder if you are willing to take a task to replace http links to Wikimedia commons? Regex search shows there are currently 2,200 articles that use http link to commons as an external link. 600 more for direct url search. There are two ways that external links can be replaced -

1. http to https - [http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Example.jpg Wikimedia commons] → [https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Example.jpg Wikimedia commons]
2. http to interwiki link - [http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Example.jpg Wikimedia commons] → [[commons:File:Example.jpg|Wikimedia commons]]

The first way is easy and same as other tasks the bot handles. The second way is a bit more complicated but better since it provides protection against link rot. The existing 1,800 https external links can be converted to interwiki links as well. ಮಲ್ನಾಡಾಚ್ ಕೊಂಕ್ಣೊ (talk) 07:40, 28 May 2021 (UTC)

For any commons file, an interwiki link (rather than an HTTP or HTTPS "external" link) is clearly the better option. However, a change like this is beyond the mandate of my bot. I suggest you file a bot request and see if it finds approval. I, for one, would support the idea. --bender235 (talk) 17:15, 28 May 2021 (UTC)

Thanks. I just filed a Bot request here. ಮಲ್ನಾಡಾಚ್ ಕೊಂಕ್ಣೊ (talk) 18:04, 28 May 2021 (UTC)

BRFA filed, withdrawn due to it not being a suitable task for a bot. Primefac (talk) 00:23, 30 May 2021 (UTC)

What is the best thing to do now? If many of the links are inappropriate and are to be removed, is it worth mass changing http to https? Also note that while there are 2,200 http links in main space, there are 25,000 in all namespaces combined. ಮಲ್ನಾಡಾಚ್ ಕೊಂಕ್ಣೊ (talk) 03:43, 30 May 2021 (UTC)

As I've said, I prefer the second option of converting them to interwiki links. --bender235 (talk) 04:03, 30 May 2021 (UTC)

Nomination of Jim Acree for deletion

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"Crandall High School" listed at Redirects for discussion

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Precious anniversary

Precious

Eight years!

--Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:49, 17 June 2021 (UTC)

Waybach Machine

Why is Bender the Bot saying "Waybach Machine" instead of "Wayback Machine"? Is this a typo? —hueman1 (talk • contributions) 01:29, 25 June 2021 (UTC)

Oh, that was a typo. Luckily the URL wasn't affected. But thanks for letting me know. --bender235 (talk) 02:29, 25 June 2021 (UTC)

How to keep the bot from changing a link to https?

Hi! In this edit, the bot changed http://www.cs.columbia.edu/~ricardo/misc/docs/gps.pdf to https://www.cs.columbia.edu/~ricardo/misc/docs/gps.pdf. The former URL works, the latter doesn't (404), so I changed it back. Will the bot change it again some time? If yes, what can I do to stop it?

More generally: It seems that the https config for some user directories on cs.columbia.edu is broken. Examples: [1] is OK, [2] is 403; [3] is OK, [4] is 404. On the other hand, both [5] and [6] are OK. Strange. I guess it's not just a temporary problem – a Google search seems to return an http link when the https link wouldn't work. Should we teach the bot not to change these links? — Chrisahn (talk) 22:47, 5 July 2021 (UTC)

I won't run the bot for columbia.edu for now. --bender235 (talk) 22:56, 5 July 2021 (UTC)

OK, thanks! I'm just curious - how do you decide when to turn it back on? — Chrisahn (talk) 23:16, 5 July 2021 (UTC)

Spelling error

It's a minor thing, but at this page history it seems the bot should be saying "Wayback Machine" with a k.

WhisperToMe (talk) 04:23, 11 July 2021 (UTC)

I know, see two sections above. --bender235 (talk) 04:37, 11 July 2021 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of Template:NFLusealtColor

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ITN recognition for David Julius

On 5 October 2021, In the news was updated with an item that involved the article David Julius, which you created. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on the candidates page. Anarchyte (talk) 06:12, 5 October 2021 (UTC)

The_Way_Out_(2015_film)

I see that you have done some work on https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Way_Out_(2015_film). It is full of dead links and dubious claims. I am not qualified to clean it up or to run "Fix dead links," but it needs to be done. Can you please? Thanks.--Powhatan Terrace (talk) 18:15, 17 October 2021 (UTC)

Not sure what you mean. I don't run a bot that fixes dead links automatically, if that's what you're referring to. --bender235 (talk) 18:20, 17 October 2021 (UTC)

No. It just needs a lot of clean-up, including dead links. It needs a pro.--Powhatan Terrace (talk) 21:06, 17 October 2021 (UTC)

Nomination of Pop Princesses 2009 for deletion

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