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Charles Hay Cameron
Hi Charles. Hope you are well. I am popping by to ask what the best/most efficient way to update articles based on DNB articles? Or rather a systematic way to identify inconsistencies between the old and new articles? In this case, it is Charles Hay Cameron, with the death year given as 1880 in the DNB article, but given as 1881 elsewhere (maybe explained here as a tombstone giving the 1880 year). I was surprised not to find an easy way to get from the old DNB article to the new one. Do the DNB articles at wikisource not link to the revised articles in the ODNB (if they exist)? The 2004 revised ODNB article for Charles Hay Cameron appears to give the death year as 1880, which is puzzling (so this isn't a good example for identifying inconsistencies between old and new articles!). I haven't used the ODNB for a while - I thought they used to link to the DNB versions but can't see that any more. Carcharoth (talk) 15:05, 4 December 2017 (UTC)
- Hi. The DNB articles on Wikisource link via "data item" to Wikidata. That goes to a dedicated metadata item. From those items run "main subject" links to other Wikidata items. Those other Wikidata items should then link to the relevant ODNB article. I.e. it is three clicks away from the Wikisource version.
- At this precise moment that route is broken, because the ODNB has just changed URLs. Someone is working on fixing that on Wikidata: basically they have gone over to DOIs, which was done here in {{cite ODNB}} a while ago. Charles Matthews (talk) 15:12, 4 December 2017 (UTC)
- Wikidata appears to have switched to the DOI route as well. In the edit history at the Wikidata item, I see a bot removing the old value (101004437) and then adding the new value (4437), but there is no link. When I added the same value here, there is a working link. Puzzling. Might ask on Wikidata. I think the work you refer to is here (by Andrew Gray). Carcharoth (talk) 15:33, 4 December 2017 (UTC)
- Just to quickly confirm what happened here - at lunchtime today I put the formatter-URL in place for the property (I'd wanted to wait until most of the values were new-style and thus would actually work). It seems that pages edited after the change were updated to use the URL immediately, while others took a while longer (as you say, probably a job queue thing). You had the bad luck to try it during the couple of hours where it was in flux :-). Everything should be fine now - I just have to do a few last sanity-checks to make sure we got all the values correctly re-added but for 99.99% of cases, it's fully resurrected. Andrew Gray (talk) 21:35, 4 December 2017 (UTC)
- Yes, it's Andrew Gray who is fixing it. All in transition right now. Thread. Charles Matthews (talk) 15:36, 4 December 2017 (UTC)
- Thanks. Andrew can safely ignore this when he reads it! :-) Did you have any thoughts on the 1880 versus 1881 death year? I wonder what is said in The Times obituary? Carcharoth (talk) 15:40, 4 December 2017 (UTC)
OK, since the ODNB says 8 May 1880, that should be in the article, really; but if the biography you cite is considered scholarly, the article can use the 1881 date, just noting the other one. Charles Matthews (talk) 22:05, 4 December 2017 (UTC)
- Thanks (and to Andrew as well). Am still trying to find the obituary in The Times. It is proving elusive! Carcharoth (talk) 23:00, 4 December 2017 (UTC)
Your draft article, Draft:Liba Taub
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Thanks for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. TKK! bark with me! 03:47, 9 December 2017 (UTC)
Your draft article, Draft:Liba Taub
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Thanks for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. TKK! bark with me! 14:17, 11 December 2017 (UTC)
I moved it the main space and removed the deletion tag. She seems a notable historian and curator but not easy to find a wealth of info about her.♦ Dr. Blofeld 14:32, 11 December 2017 (UTC)
- @Dr. Blofeld: Yes, well. It was from an editathon, and I intended to brush it up some time. @Tikuko:, it is not a satisfactory process. It should be more like a PROD. It was deleted, I revived it, you speedied it again. Pretty pointless. Charles Matthews (talk) 17:34, 11 December 2017 (UTC)
- I speedied it because it has been untouched for over six months and I'm attempting to manage the AfC backlog. Apologies if I caused offense. G13 deletions do function more like a PROD in that you can request a refund of a deleted article without much question. --TKK! bark with me! 18:31, 11 December 2017 (UTC)
- Indeed. I'm an admin, so can deal with this. But you don't need to nominate it again two days later. Charles Matthews (talk) 19:37, 11 December 2017 (UTC)
I hadn't even noticed that it had only been two days. Apologies. TKK! bark with me! 05:00, 12 December 2017 (UTC)
Facto Post – Issue 7 – 15 December 2017
Facto Post – Issue 7 – 15 December 2017
 A new bibliographical landscapeAt the beginning of December, Wikidata items on individual scientific articles passed the 10 million mark. This figure contrasts with the state of play in early summer, when there were around half a million. In the big picture, Wikidata is now documenting the scientific literature at a rate that is about eight times as fast as papers are published. As 2017 ends, progress is quite evident. Behind this achievement are a technical advance (fatameh), and bots that do the lifting. Much more than dry migration of metadata is potentially involved, however. If paper A cites paper B, both papers having an item, a link can be created on Wikidata, and the information presented to both human readers, and machines. This cross-linking is one of the most significant aspects of the scientific literature, and now a long-sought open version is rapidly being built up.  The effort for the lifting of copyright restrictions on citation data of this kind has had real momentum behind it during 2017. WikiCite and the I4OC have been pushing hard, with the result that on CrossRef over 50% of the citation data is open. Now the holdout publishers are being lobbied to release rights on citations. But all that is just the beginning. Topics of papers are identified, authors disambiguated, with significant progress on the use of the four million ORCID IDs for researchers, and proposals formulated to identify methodology in a machine-readable way. P4510 on Wikidata has been introduced so that methodology can sit comfortably on items about papers. More is on the way. OABot applies the unpaywall principle to Wikipedia referencing. It has been proposed that Wikidata could assist WorldCat in compiling the global history of book translation. Watch this space. And make promoting #1lib1ref one of your New Year's resolutions. Happy holidays, all!  Links
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Books and Bytes - Issue 25
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Questions
- Would you mind writing an article for the Signpost?
- In principle. What subject? Charles Matthews (talk) 15:39, 21 December 2017 (UTC)
- Where can I get your book?
- How Wikipedia Works is available at https://archive.org/details/HowWikipediaWorks, so as PDF and as other types of download, e.g. Kindle. Also on Wikibooks, b:How Wikipedia Works. There are essentially no physical copies left with the publisher or authors: if you really want one, Amazon ... Charles Matthews (talk) 15:39, 21 December 2017 (UTC)
- Can I write a WP article about you?
- I have never wanted to have an article here. I don't see that I'm notable. These opinions of mine are not really relevant, but I'm quite sure there are more important topics that need adding here. Charles Matthews (talk) 15:39, 21 December 2017 (UTC)
- Best Regards, Barbara (WVS) ✐ ✉ and Merry Christmas 13:44, 21 December 2017 (UTC)
Seasons' Greetings
...to you and yours, from the Great White North! FWiW Bzuk (talk) 03:16, 24 December 2017 (UTC)
newspapers.com
Hello! Do you have access to https://www.newspapers.com/? If so, see [1]. Best regards,Jeff5102 (talk) 09:58, 9 January 2018 (UTC)
- Actually, no. I once had Wikipedia Library access to the British Newspaper Archive. Charles Matthews (talk) 10:04, 9 January 2018 (UTC)
- I see. Anyway, here is a clipping of the first part of the article: [2]. I would say it can be useful as a reference for all other clergymen involved in the Salter's Hall debates. Best regards,Jeff5102 (talk) 11:48, 12 January 2018 (UTC)
- It would be worth making a list article, based on that reference. Charles Matthews (talk) 11:51, 12 January 2018 (UTC)
- Maybe. I believe an extensive article on the Salter's Hall debates would be there first. Moreover, most of the clergy named do not have a separate article for themselves; that makes it unclear for me why they should be included in a list. But that is me. If you think it is worth to make a list article, I will not stop you. Best regards,Jeff5102 (talk) 12:02, 12 January 2018 (UTC)
- Under Wikipedia:Stand-alone lists#Selection criteria, having this sort of contemporary authority is a very good start. I would only link those ministers who seemed to me to be individually notable. But notability is not set in stone: when more sources are published, notability expands. In any case, I feel it would encourage the development of this area. Of course having a fuller list, subscribers and non-subscribers, would be better. Charles Matthews (talk) 12:18, 12 January 2018 (UTC)
- Good luck then! One thing: "Simon Brown" is actually called "Simon Browne" on Wikipedia.Jeff5102 (talk) 12:30, 12 January 2018 (UTC)
Facto Post – Issue 8 – 15 January 2018
Facto Post – Issue 8 – 15 January 2018
Metadata on the MarchFrom the days of hard-copy liner notes on music albums, metadata have stood outside a piece or file, while adding to understanding of where it comes from, and some of what needs to be appreciated about its content. In the GLAM sector, the accumulation of accurate metadata for objects is key to the mission of an institution, and its presentation in cataloguing. Today Wikipedia turns 17, with worlds still to conquer. Zooming out from the individual GLAM object to the ontology in which it is set, one such world becomes apparent: GLAMs use custom ontologies, and those introduce massive incompatibilities. From a recent article by sadads, we quote the observation that "vocabularies needed for many collections, topics and intellectual spaces defy the expectations of the larger professional communities." A job for the encyclopedist, certainly. But the data-minded Wikimedian has the advantages of Wikidata, starting with its multilingual data, and facility with aliases. The controlled vocabulary — sometimes referred to as a "thesaurus" as term of art — simplifies search: if a "spade" must be called that, rather than "shovel", it is easier to find all spade references. That control comes at a cost.   Case studies in that article show what can lie ahead. The schema crosswalk, in jargon, is a potential answer to the GLAM Babel of proliferating and expanding vocabularies. Even if you have no interest in Wikidata as such, simply vocabularies V and W, if both V and W are matched to Wikidata, then a "crosswalk" arises from term v in V to w in W, whenever v and w both match to the same item d in Wikidata. For metadata mobility, match to Wikidata. It's apparently that simple: infrastructure requirements have turned out, so far, to be challenges that can be met. Links
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Colegio Mayor de Santiago el Zebedeo
Dear Sir: In September 2013 you redirected the "Irish College at Salamanca" to "Colegio Mayor de Santiago el Zebedeo". (The corresponding article in Spanish is "Colegio del Arzobispo Fonseca (Salamanca)") I don't know whether the English title should be changed to conform or not, -and don't really care one way or the other. However, would you have any particularly strong objections to the "Irish College at Salamanca" as not a redirect, but a separate article with a link from Colegio Something or Other? (1) Most of its connection to English wiki would appear to be the Irish that went there, and in most of the sources I come across it is called Irish College at Salamanca. (2) Spanish wiki appears to indicate that the Colegio de San Patricio was established by Philip II in 1592 and apart from intermittent periods of war, occupied by Irish students until 1936, so for a substantial part of its existence it may have been located in Spain, but it had Irish students, teachers, and rectors. (3) "Colegio Mayor de Santiago el Zebedeo" is a one paragraph stub with links to a list of Irish colleges with no information about any of them. (4) I understand that the redirect will send users looking for Irish College at Salamanca to Colegio etc., and they will find there the three other names it is sometimes known by -in Spanish. I think this is not particularly helpful for English users. Vty. Mannanan51 (talk) 03:37, 5 February 2018 (UTC)
- If you want to create Irish College at Salamanca as an article, go ahead. Charles Matthews (talk) 09:59, 5 February 2018 (UTC)
Facto Post – Issue 9 – 5 February 2018
Facto Post – Issue 9 – 5 February 2018
Wikidata as HubOne way of looking at Wikidata relates it to the semantic web concept, around for about as long as Wikipedia, and realised in dozens of distributed Web institutions. It sees Wikidata as supplying central, encyclopedic coverage of linked structured data, and looks ahead to greater support for "federated queries" that draw together information from all parts of the emerging network of websites.  Another perspective might be likened to a photographic negative of that one: Wikidata as an already-functioning Web hub. Over half of its properties are identifiers on other websites. These are Wikidata's "external links", to use Wikipedia terminology: one type for the DOI of a publication, another for the VIAF page of an author, with thousands more such. Wikidata links out to sites that are not nominally part of the semantic web, effectively drawing them into a larger system. The crosswalk possibilities of the systematic construction of these links was covered in Issue 8. Wikipedia:External links speaks of them as kept "minimal, meritable, and directly relevant to the article." Here Wikidata finds more of a function. On viaf.org one can type a VIAF author identifier into the search box, and find the author page. The Wikidata Resolver tool, these days including Open Street Map, Scholia etc., allows this kind of lookup. The hub tool by maxlath takes a major step further, allowing both lookup and crosswalk to be encoded in a single URL. Links
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Hellow Charles, long time since Monmouthpedia. I hope you are keeping well. I've declined the above. Do you actually want it deleting? KJP1 (talk) 08:23, 11 February 2018 (UTC)
- Yes, it's a clear mistake in the name. Charles Matthews (talk) 08:39, 11 February 2018 (UTC)
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- @Legacypac:. Sorry, ridiculous process. Please read above. You could have read the history of the draft, too, where I comment. I'm deleting it now. Charles Matthews (talk) 20:33, 12 February 2018 (UTC)
- I found it stale and tagged as a promising draft. Sent it to AfC where they figured out it was under the wrong name. Thanks. Legacypac (talk) 20:36, 12 February 2018 (UTC)
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Facto Post – Issue 10 – 12 March 2018
Facto Post – Issue 10 – 12 March 2018
Milestone for mix'n'matchAround the time in February when Wikidata clicked past item Q50000000, another milestone was reached: the mix'n'match tool uploaded its 1000th dataset. Concisely defined by its author, Magnus Manske, it works "to match entries in external catalogs to Wikidata". The total number of entries is now well into eight figures, and more are constantly being added: a couple of new catalogs each day is normal. Since the end of 2013, mix'n'match has gradually come to play a significant part in adding statements to Wikidata. Particularly in areas with the flavour of digital humanities, but datasets can of course be about practically anything. There is a catalog on skyscrapers, and two on spiders. These days mix'n'match can be used in numerous modes, from the relaxed gamified click through a catalog looking for matches, with prompts, to the fantastically useful and often demanding search across all catalogs. I'll type that again: you can search 1000+ datasets from the simple box at the top right. The drop-down menu top left offers "creation candidates", Magnus's personal favourite. m:Mix'n'match/Manual for more. For the Wikidatan, a key point is that these matches, however carried out, add statements to Wikidata if, and naturally only if, there is a Wikidata property associated with the catalog. For everyone, however, the hands-on experience of deciding of what is a good match is an education, in a scholarly area, biographical catalogs being particularly fraught. Underpinning recent rapid progress is an open infrastructure for scraping and uploading. Congratulations to Magnus, our data Stakhanovite! Links
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STL uploads
Hi Charles,
Thanks for telling me about Commons allowing STL uploads. I've uploaded my first creation!
Sadly, it complains about not matching the MIME type if I had extra text after the endsolid line, despite http://linkedin.com/pulse/how-watermark-binary-stl-file-theodore-lee claiming
| “ | a simple method was described to watermark a ASCII STL just by entering arbitrary text after "endsolid" is declared inside the file. | ” |
This prevents me for embedding the script to generate the STL in itself (so that an editor can always modify and regenerate it), as I do for my generated SVGs.
Thought you might like to know...
Cheers,
cmɢʟee⎆τaʟκ 02:05, 16 March 2018 (UTC)
- Yes, thanks. Possibly you should let them know, on Commons. Charles Matthews (talk) 06:35, 16 March 2018 (UTC)
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Facto Post – Issue 11 – 9 April 2018
Facto Post – Issue 11 – 9 April 2018
The 100 Skins of the OnionOpen Citations Month, with its eminently guessable hashtag, is upon us. We should be utterly grateful that in the past 12 months, so much data on which papers cite which other papers has been made open, and that Wikidata is playing its part in hosting it as "cites" statements. At the time of writing, there are 15.3M Wikidata items that can do that. Pulling back to look at open access papers in the large, though, there is is less reason for celebration. Access in theory does not yet equate to practical access. A recent LSE IMPACT blogpost puts that issue down to "heterogeneity". A useful euphemism to save us from thinking that the whole concept doesn't fall into the realm of the oxymoron. Some home truths: aggregation is not content management, if it falls short on reusability. The PDF file format is wedded to how humans read documents, not how machines ingest them. The salami-slicer is our friend in the current downloading of open access papers, but for a better metaphor, think about skinning an onion, laboriously, 100 times with diminishing returns. There are of the order of 100 major publisher sites hosting open access papers, and the predominant offer there is still a PDF.  From the discoverability angle, Wikidata's bibliographic resources combined with the SPARQL query are superior in principle, by far, to existing keyword searches run over papers. Open access content should be managed into consistent HTML, something that is currently strenuous. The good news, such as it is, would be that much of it is already in XML. The organisational problem of removing further skins from the onion, with sensible prioritisation, is certainly not insuperable. The CORE group (the bloggers in the LSE posting) has some answers, but actually not all that is needed for the text and data mining purposes they highlight. The long tail, or in other words the onion heart when it has become fiddly beyond patience to skin, does call for a pis aller. But the real knack is to do more between the XML and the heart. Links
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Books & Bytes - Issue 27
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Facto Post – Issue 12 – 28 May 2018
Facto Post – Issue 12 – 28 May 2018
ScienceSource fundedThe Wikimedia Foundation announced full funding of the ScienceSource grant proposal from ContentMine on May 18. See the ScienceSource Twitter announcement and 60 second video.
The proposal includes downloading 30,000 open access papers, aiming (roughly speaking) to create a baseline for medical referencing on Wikipedia. It leaves open the question of how these are to be chosen. The basic criteria of WP:MEDRS include a concentration on secondary literature. Attention has to be given to the long tail of diseases that receive less current research. The MEDRS guideline supposes that edge cases will have to be handled, and the premature exclusion of publications that would be in those marginal positions would reduce the value of the collection. Prophylaxis misses the point that gate-keeping will be done by an algorithm. Two well-known but rather different areas where such considerations apply are tropical diseases and alternative medicine. There are also a number of potential downloading troubles, and these were mentioned in Issue 11. There is likely to be a gap, even with the guideline, between conditions taken to be necessary but not sufficient, and conditions sufficient but not necessary, for candidate papers to be included. With around 10,000 recognised medical conditions in standard lists, being comprehensive is demanding. With all of these aspects of the task, ScienceSource will seek community help. Links
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Secondary sources and open access
Most review articles are not open access as the pay to publish module does not work as well in that area. I guess what you will have mostly will be systematic reviews and metaanalysis?
Also are you removing predatory publishers / journals from what you upload? Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 14:56, 29 May 2018 (UTC)
- On the first point, yes, we are going to try to work round the issues with closed access, with the goal of finding good coverage of what is open. We may also go for abstracts of closed access papers, if we can persuade publishers to release those. At the least, we should end up with some idea of where the serious gaps in the open access literature are.
- For the predators, by running queries we should be able to check over what we have that could be problematic. For that, we'd need to construct a blacklist of journals. Any help with that would be appreciated: presumably there is some general background on what those journals are, but the knowledge may be tacit. Charles Matthews (talk) 15:18, 29 May 2018 (UTC)
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- You're welcome! The ScienceSource project gets under way tomorrow, and that means another year of issues. Also, more videos. Charles Matthews (talk) 19:49, 3 June 2018 (UTC)
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Facto Post – Issue 13 – 29 May 2018
Facto Post – Issue 13 – 29 May 2018
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Facto Post enters its second year, with a Cambridge Blue (OK, Aquamarine) background, a new logo, but no Cambridge blues. On-topic for the ScienceSource project is a project page here. It contains some case studies on how the WP:MEDRS guideline, for the referencing of articles at all related to human health, is applied in typical discussions. Close to home also, a template, called {{medrs}} for short, is used to express dissatisfaction with particular references. Technology can help with patrolling, and this Petscan query finds over 450 articles where there is at least one use of the template. Of course the template is merely suggesting there is a possible issue with the reliability of a reference. Deciding the truth of the allegation is another matter. This maintenance issue is one example of where ScienceSource aims to help. Where the reference is to a scientific paper, its type of algorithm could give a pass/fail opinion on such references. It could assist patrollers of medical articles, therefore, with the templated references and more generally. There may be more to proper referencing than that, indeed: context, quite what the statement supported by the reference expresses, prominence and weight. For that kind of consideration, case studies can help. But an algorithm might help to clear the backlog. 
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Facto Post – Issue 14 – 21 July 2018
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Officially it is "bridging the gaps in knowledge", with Wikimania 2018 in Cape Town paying tribute to the southern African concept of ubuntu to implement it. Besides face-to-face interactions, Wikimedians do need their power sources.  Facto Post interviewed Jdforrester, who has attended every Wikimania, and now works as Senior Product Manager for the Wikimedia Foundation. His take on tackling the gaps in the Wikimedia movement is that "if we were an army, we could march in a column and close up all the gaps". In his view though, that is a faulty metaphor, and it leads to a completely false misunderstanding of the movement, its diversity and different aspirations, and the nature of the work as "fighting" to be done in the open sector. There are many fronts, and as an eventualist he feels the gaps experienced both by editors and by users of Wikimedia content are inevitable. He would like to see a greater emphasis on reuse of content, not simply its volume. If that may not sound like radicalism, the Decolonizing the Internet conference here organized jointly with Whose Knowledge? can redress the picture. It comes with the claim to be "the first ever conference about centering marginalized knowledge online". 
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Facto Post idea
Would be nice if you created /Facto Post/current (or something like that) and updated it to transclude whatever the current issue is each time you release one. That way, we can just manually transclude the /current page where ever we like and always have a current copy, rather than be dependent on it being delivered as a talk post. This would work just like Wikipedia:Administrators' newsletter/Current issue, Template:Signpost-textonly, Template:ArbComOpenTasks, etc. — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼 12:22, 22 July 2018 (UTC)
- Not sure I see this. The mailing list is active (people are added, unsubscribe). Having it handled the current way is informative, and helpful for project metrics. Charles Matthews (talk) 05:53, 23 July 2018 (UTC)
- Well, you could ask people to sign on a list on its talk page that they're getting it this way. And, really, a large number of us get it via the group subscription at WT:TOL, I would think. That's the only reason I know it exists. — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼 22:05, 29 July 2018 (UTC)
- Good to know. But it is not delivered to WT:MED, because that project doesn't want it. Individual medical editors are signed up, and they certainly are a key audience.
- I can think some more about how to display back numbers. It is fair to say that the current system, in my user space, isn't ideal. Charles Matthews (talk) 09:53, 1 August 2018 (UTC)
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Facto Post – Issue 15 – 21 August 2018
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.jpg) To grasp the nettle, there are rare diseases, there are tropical diseases and then there are "neglected diseases". Evidently a rare enough disease is likely to be neglected, but neglected disease these days means a disease not rare, but tropical, and most often infectious or parasitic. Rare diseases as a group are dominated, in contrast, by genetic diseases. A major aspect of neglect is found in tracking drug discovery. Orphan drugs are those developed to treat rare diseases (rare enough not to have market-driven research), but there is some overlap in practice with the WHO's neglected diseases, where snakebite, a "neglected public health issue", is on the list. From an encyclopedic point of view, lack of research also may mean lack of high-quality references: the core medical literature differs from primary research, since it operates by aggregating trials. This bibliographic deficit clearly hinders Wikipedia's mission. The ScienceSource project is currently addressing this issue, on Wikidata. Its Wikidata focus list at WD:SSFL is trying to ensure that neglect does not turn into bias in its selection of science papers.
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Are Archdeacons notable by office?
Hi Charles, can I ask you to look at this Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Wandlyn SnelgroveBashereyre (talk) 13:24, 20 August 2018 (UTC)
- @Bashereyre: I actually don't think "notable by office" applies.
- As you know, I have taken the line in previous discussions that nominations for deletion have typically been flawed, by poor research. I am also no great fan of WP:GNG, when taken to be a necessary condition, given that it is stated as a sufficient condition. It is logically barbaric to do that.
- But in this case Wandlyn was ordained relatively recently. Such hope as there is would be to recover her earlier career. It might be under her maiden name, which is Crowther, I believe. She has been a teacher, and might well have gone into the church at around retirement age. Charles Matthews (talk) 16:23, 20 August 2018 (UTC)
- Thank you CharlesBashereyre (talk) 07:09, 24 August 2018 (UTC)
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The (many) Dean/Archdeacon articles I have created versus any Family Guy episode article
Most people I know in the real world are aware I am a big fan of Wikipedia. It seems to interest them a lot. I find most people start with a few lazy tropes then, as you explain how it really works, become more engaged. They then in turn are always surprised when I say I too have a beef with Wikipedia: namely, however you spin it the site does have a bias towards popular culture. What I would like to do is put an episode of Family Guy up for deletion. I anticipate that would get far more keep, merge, deletes on the Afd page than the ones I defend ever do. I would argue that any single episode of Family Guy would have to be notable in its own right not just because it is part of a series. Very occasionally a single episode of a series might warrant its own article. Take Dad's Army, that too seems to have an individual article for each episode. I could easily pick one of them for deletion, the latter series (in my opinion) contained some very weak episodes. I would argue that one or two definitely are notable ("Don't tell him Pike") but not all 82. Bashereyre (talk) 08:59, 27 August 2018 (UTC)
- WP:POINT, though. I know you find the climate annoying at times. I recognise the work you do. Charles Matthews (talk) 09:02, 27 August 2018 (UTC)
- Never have done this, Charles. As always you are the voice of reason Bashereyre (talk) 10:52, 27 August 2018 (UTC)
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Hello Charles, please have a quick look at the Louis-Philippe Boitard in french, it might be useful (I must confess I was lost with all the Boitards...). Yours, --Marc-AntoineV (talk) 09:23, 5 September 2018 (UTC)
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Extracting table data from PDF?
I have a PDF containing a large table, and I'd like to extract it into a spreadsheet or CSV or something editable of that sort. Unfortunately it doesn't extract easily. I believe ContentMine has a tool that helps with extracting table data. Can you direct me? The surrounding PDF, but not the table content, is copyright, so I can't post it. HLHJ (talk) 00:35, 10 September 2018 (UTC)
- I've sent a mail. Charles Matthews (talk) 12:48, 10 September 2018 (UTC)
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Practice makes perfect
I'm interested in your new WiR activity and so will try to get to the next Cambridge meetup. In the meantime, please take a look at mathematical practice which is under discussion at AfD and the maths project. I notice that your name appears in its early edit history and so you should see what has become of it. Andrew D. (talk) 06:43, 19 September 2018 (UTC)
- @Andrew Davidson: Thanks, on both counts, and for your other contact. I have done something about mathematical practice. Charles Matthews (talk) 07:16, 19 September 2018 (UTC)
Query
Hi Charles! Curious, how do you know if an article on your list of redlinks turns blue? Shyamal (talk) 06:44, 19 September 2018 (UTC)
- @Shyamal: I have a Wikidata query set up, is the short answer.
- In fact when I run this Petscan query https://petscan.wmflabs.org/?psid=5415973 I get alerted to articles in the Wikisource category s:Category:DNB No WP corresponding to some Wikidata item that does have an English Wikipedia link, for the DNB first edition. (There are a couple of false positive hits there, today.) So I became aware of Thomas Onwhyn that you had started, and added to Wikidata on 14 September, when I next ran the query.
- I also patrol the various lists at WP:WPDNB#Missing article topical lists, about once a month. Before I had a proper understanding of SPARQL, I had to put in much more effort with a special tool written by Magnus Manske, running on Wikisource. Charles Matthews (talk) 06:58, 19 September 2018 (UTC)
- @Charles Matthews: Aha! Thanks. Shyamal (talk) 07:34, 19 September 2018 (UTC)
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EB1911
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- Thanks for the explanation. Charles Matthews (talk) 11:47, 29 September 2018 (UTC)
Facto Post – Issue 16 – 30 September 2018
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 In an ideal world ... no, bear with your editor for just a minute ... there would be a format for scientific publishing online that was as much a standard as SI units are for the content. Likewise cataloguing publications would not be onerous, because part of the process would be to generate uniform metadata. Without claiming it could be the mythical free lunch, it might be reasonably be argued that sandwiches can be packaged much alike and have barcodes, whatever the fillings. The best on offer, to stretch the metaphor, is the meal kit option, in the form of XML. Where scientific papers are delivered as XML downloads, you get all the ingredients ready to cook. But have to prepare the actual meal of slow food yourself. See Scholarly HTML for a recent pass at heading off XML with HTML, in other words in the native language of the Web. The argument from real life is a traditional mixture of frictional forces, vested interests, and the classic irony of the principle of unripe time. On the other hand, discoverability actually diminishes with the prolific progress of science publishing. No, it really doesn't scale. Wikimedia as movement can do something in such cases. We know from open access, we grok the Web, we have our own horse in the HTML race, we have Wikidata and WikiJournal, and we have the chops to act. 
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Format of references to ODNB
Hi, you edited the format of references to ODNB in Taylor Professor of the German Language and Literature on 25 September and it is now showing three "access-date= requires |url=" messages. Should the access dates be deleted in the current referencing style? I clicked on help and am none the wiser.TSventon (talk) 09:52, 4 October 2018 (UTC)
- @TSventon: I fixed it by replacing "accessdate" by "access_date". So it is some artefact, because it used not to matter. Charles Matthews (talk) 10:23, 4 October 2018 (UTC)
- Thanks for fixing the references. I was using a Wikipedia cleanup listing which contains a mixture of serious and trivial problems. I have now found Template:Cite ODNB, which says "accessdate=month year — Not needed as the ODNB has both date of article modification, a builtin archive and a doi structure." Presumably there are reports which produce errors with "accessdate" but not "access_date".TSventon (talk) 10:51, 4 October 2018 (UTC)
- Well, I'm not sure I agree with the comment. From the point of view of maintenance via bot, it is not enough to say that a human can consult some resources. There would obviously be cases where it would be useful to apply automation. Charles Matthews (talk) 11:06, 4 October 2018 (UTC)
Dear sir need assistance
Dear sir need your help reviewing this article & fix needed as you're very old wikipedia member & have experience so could you kindly https://en.m.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:Kamal_Mustafa_(DJ)&preload=Template%3AAfc+preload%2Fdraft&editintro=Template%3AAfC+draft+editintro&create=Create+new+article+draft FIAPak (talk) 17:48, 11 October 2018 (UTC)
- @FIAPak: I have done some work cleaning up the draft. Good luck! Charles Matthews (talk) 19:17, 11 October 2018 (UTC)
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