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Facto Post – Issue 17 – 29 October 2018

Facto Post – Issue 17 – 29 October 2018
 

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Wikidata imaged

Around 2.7 million Wikidata items have an illustrative image. These files, you might say, are Wikimedia's stock images, and if the number is large, it is still only 5% or so of items that have one. All such images are taken from Wikimedia Commons, which has 50 million media files. One key issue is how to expand the stock.

Indeed, there is a tool. WD-FIST exploits the fact that each Wikipedia is differently illustrated, mostly with images from Commons but also with fair use images. An item that has sitelinks but no illustrative image can be tested to see if the linked wikis have a suitable one. This works well for a volunteer who wants to add images at a reasonable scale, and a small amount of SPARQL knowledge goes a long way in producing checklists.

 
Gran Teatro, Cáceres, Spain, at night

It should be noted, though, that there are currently 53 Wikidata properties that link to Commons, of which P18 for the basic image is just one. WD-FIST prompts the user to add signatures, plaques, pictures of graves and so on. There are a couple of hundred monograms, mostly of historical figures, and this query allows you to view all of them. commons:Category:Monograms and its subcategories provide rich scope for adding more.

And so it is generally. The list of properties linking to Commons does contain a few that concern video and audio files, and rather more for maps. But it contains gems such as P3451 for "nighttime view". Over 1000 of those on Wikidata, but as for so much else, there could be yet more.

Go on. Today is Wikidata's birthday. An illustrative image is always an acceptable gift, so why not add one? You can follow these easy steps: (i) log in at https://tools.wmflabs.org/widar/, (ii) paste the Petscan ID 6263583 into https://tools.wmflabs.org/fist/wdfist/ and click run, and (iii) just add cake.

 
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MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 15:01, 29 October 2018 (UTC)

Hi Charles,
Is there a list of the 53 Wikidata properties that link to Commons images? You wrote:
It should be noted, though, that there are currently 53 Wikidata properties that link to Commons...
Also if it's not too late to update the post, could you hyperlink "53 Wikidata properties that link to Commons" to point to that list?
Thanks,
cmɢʟeeτaʟκ 15:56, 1 November 2018 (UTC)

@Cmglee: It's actually in the next paragraph: this query. Charles Matthews (talk) 16:04, 1 November 2018 (UTC)

Excellent; thanks! cmɢʟeeτaʟκ 20:46, 1 November 2018 (UTC)

Old wikitext editor retirement

The deprecation described in this announcement might affect you - I think you might be using that old toolbar? Deryck C. 11:36, 6 November 2018 (UTC)

Ah, thanks. A button went missing, so a sign of the times, it seems. Charles Matthews (talk) 11:55, 6 November 2018 (UTC)

Nomination of Dilemma for deletion

 

A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Dilemma is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Dilemma until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article. Paradoctor (talk) 01:19, 14 November 2018 (UTC)

Hi Charles, please check this problem

Hi Charles, please check vandalizing edits made by user Moalli [1] who has continuously deleted the entire sourced content of a section in the article Cantonese intentionally [2] (31 October), [3] (14 November), under the mask of Clean up section despite having this user's vandalism reverted. Thanks. 153.205.14.229 (talk) 21:40, 14 November 2018 (UTC)

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Metallic currency listed at Redirects for discussion

 

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Facto Post – Issue 18 – 30 November 2018

Facto Post – Issue 18 – 30 November 2018
 

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WikiCite issue

GLAM ♥ data — what is a gallery, library, archive or museum without a catalogue? It follows that Wikidata must love librarians. Bibliography supports students and researchers in any topic, but open and machine-readable bibliographic data even more so, outside the silo. Cue the WikiCite initiative, which was meeting in conference this week, in the Bay Area of California.

 
Wikidata training for librarians at WikiCite 2018

In fact there is a broad scope: "Open Knowledge Maps via SPARQL" and the "Sum of All Welsh Literature", identification of research outputs, Library.Link Network and Bibframe 2.0, OSCAR and LUCINDA (who they?), OCLC and Scholia, all these co-exist on the agenda. Certainly more library science is coming Wikidata's way. That poses the question about the other direction: is more Wikimedia technology advancing on libraries? Good point.

Wikimedians generally are not aware of the tech background that can be assumed, unless they are close to current training for librarians. A baseline definition is useful here: "bash, git and OpenRefine". Compare and contrast with pywikibot, GitHub and mix'n'match. Translation: scripting for automation, version control, data set matching and wrangling in the large, are on the agenda also for contemporary library work. Certainly there is some possible common ground here. Time to understand rather more about the motivations that operate in the library sector.

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Feedback a good link is last week videos from SWIB Semantic Web in Libraries in Bonn playlist - Salgo60 (talk) 12:06, 1 December 2018 (UTC)
::Ah, thanks! Charles Matthews (talk) 12:19, 1 December 2018 (UTC)

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Since the change in background color from green to blue I have been unable to read Facto Post without first editing it to remove the color. The contrast between such a dark blue and the black text is too small, as is the contrast with the blue wikilinks. Please reconsider the color. Thankyou. StarryGrandma (talk) 17:52, 1 December 2018 (UTC)

Thanks for letting me know. I think it must depend on the browser. Charles Matthews (talk) 18:36, 1 December 2018 (UTC)
I've tried two other browsers now with the same effect. The color setting is just an instruction passed on to the hardware to set pixel intensities. The browser shouldn't matter. But a user's screen settings will. I am old so I need a bright screen. StarryGrandma (talk) 20:28, 1 December 2018 (UTC)

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Your objective opinion is needed

Hi. It's been a long time, I think, since we've spoken. I hope everything is going well. Years ago, you participated in some of the initiatives intended to resolve the problem of a serial policy violator. For some time now, I've been having trouble with an editor who's been exhibiting similar persistent behavior, and he seems to be escalating. I could really use your help. I've outlined the evidence of his behavior here. A summary list of his behavior is located near the bottom of that post, beneath the heading "Summary", in case you want to read that first. If you could offer your objective opinion on that evidence, I would appreciate it. Thanks. Nightscream (talk) 02:25, 12 December 2018 (UTC)

@Nightscream: Some better approaches needed. Draft articles, before the event, can reasonably be written in the Draft: namespace. Talk pages for articles/drafts are the appropriate places for suggesting improvements, and coming to some consensus. I find it is generally better to let minor stuff go by, rather than making it a matter of principle, which is not to say that I'm agreeing with them. Charles Matthews (talk) 08:56, 12 December 2018 (UTC)

It's not minor. This guy has been causing trouble with his arbitrary changes, his misrepresentation of policy/guidelines and various other behaviors since he started editing the South Park articles. It's not going to stop, and I dont' see how writing drafts has anything to do with it. Nightscream (talk) 14:21, 12 December 2018 (UTC)

I understand that there is a dispute. I don't feel that ANI necessarily resolves disputes, and I have much more experience of the ArbCom approach to which you made some reference above. I certainly got it that you are annoyed, but one thing I recommend is to de-escalate. Look, these things can become a time sink, as we all know. There are expectations of everyone who edits here, and they are symmetric: the two parties in a dispute can expect to hear the same things from me. You only have to look around the world today, to see that the divisive and the adversarial can be pretty unhelpful. Charles Matthews (talk) 15:43, 12 December 2018 (UTC)

IETF/ISOC

As discussed: IETF Newcomers Presentation (2016) Zazpot (talk) 18:09, 15 December 2018 (UTC)

DOAJ

I think you made a note of this, but in case not: Directory of Open Access Journals. Zazpot (talk) 19:25, 15 December 2018 (UTC)

@Zazpot:, thanks, that was a helpful steer. On this topic, do you consider List of open-access journals satisfies WP:LSC? Charles Matthews (talk) 20:57, 15 December 2018 (UTC)
List of open-access journals seems to me to satisfy WP:LSC, except perhaps in that none of its entries possess footnotes justifying their inclusion. WP:LSC states, In cases where the membership criteria are subjective or likely to be disputed ... it is especially important that inclusion be based on reliable sources given with inline citations for each item.
There has been some discussion, but not necessarily "dispute"; nor do the membership criteria seem to me, at the moment, to be sufficiently subjective to warrant serious concern. So, the article (well, list) is probably OK. I am quite tired, though; it is possible I have overlooked or misunderstood something. If you feel that I did overlook or misunderstand something, please ping me and I will take another look when feeling fresher! Zazpot (talk) 22:19, 15 December 2018 (UTC)

Books & Bytes, Issue 31

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Precious

plaudits for historic bios and kindness

Thank you for quality articles such as biographies in neglected fields, working from lists such as English and Welsh endowed schools, such as Giovanni Francisco Vigani and François de Pâris, for thoughts about COI, for activity at meetups and for fighting systematic bias, for earning plaudits for kindness, - Charles (repeating from ten years ago): you are an awesome Wikipedian!

Awesome
 
Ten years!

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WikiProject Genealogy - newsletter No.6

Newsletter Nr 6, 2018-12-25, for WikiProject Genealogy (and Wikimedia genealogy project on Meta)
 

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Now 100 supporters

At 3 December 2018, the list of users who support the potential Wikimedia genealogy project, reached 100!

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You can already now try out the demo for a genealogy wiki at https://tools.wmflabs.org/genealogy/wiki/Main_Page and try out the functions. You will find parts of the 18th Pharao dynasty and other records submitted by the 7 first users, and it would be great if you would add some records.

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Facto Post – Issue 19 – 27 December 2018

Facto Post – Issue 19 – 27 December 2018
 

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Learning from Zotero

Zotero is free software for reference management by the Center for History and New Media: see Wikipedia:Citing sources with Zotero. It is also an active user community, and has broad-based language support.

 
Zotero logo

Besides the handiness of Zotero's warehousing of personal citation collections, the Zotero translator underlies the citoid service, at work behind the VisualEditor. Metadata from Wikidata can be imported into Zotero; and in the other direction the zotkat tool from the University of Mannheim allows Zotero bibliographies to be exported to Wikidata, by item creation. With an extra feature to add statements, that route could lead to much development of the focus list (P5008) tagging on Wikidata, by WikiProjects.

Zotero demo video

There is also a large-scale encyclopedic dimension here. The construction of Zotero translators is one facet of Web scraping that has a strong community and open source basis. In that it resembles the less formal mix'n'match import community, and growing networks around other approaches that can integrate datasets into Wikidata, such as the use of OpenRefine.

Looking ahead, the thirtieth birthday of the World Wide Web falls in 2019, and yet the ambition to make webpages routinely readable by machines can still seem an ever-retreating mirage. Wikidata should not only be helping Wikimedia integrate its projects, an ongoing process represented by Structured Data on Commons and lexemes. It should also be acting as a catalyst to bring scraping in from the cold, with institutional strengths as well as resourceful code.

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Captions in January

The previous message from today says captions will be released in November in the text. January is the correct month. My apologies for the potential confusion. -- Keegan (WMF) (talk) 20:43, 7 January 2019 (UTC)

Structured Data - file captions coming this week (January 2019)

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Hi all, following up on last month's announcement...

Multilingual file captions will be released this week, on either Wednesday, 9 January or Thursday, 10 January 2019. Captions are a feature to add short, translatable descriptions to files. Here's some links you might want to look follow before the release, if you haven't already:

  1. Read over the help page for using captions - I wrote the page on mediawiki.org because captions are available for any MediaWiki user, feel free to host/modify a copy of the page here on Commons.
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Parturient listed at Redirects for discussion

 

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Wikipedia talk:Did you know#Really old error?

Comments appreciated. Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 20:46, 27 January 2019 (UTC)

My comment is that I don't think DYKs should be such a big deal. Charles Matthews (talk) 07:43, 28 January 2019 (UTC)

Great French War listed at Redirects for discussion

 

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Category:Savoy Conference has been nominated for discussion

 

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Facto Post – Issue 20 – 31 January 2019

Facto Post – Issue 20 – 31 January 2019
 

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Everything flows (and certainly data does)

Recently Jimmy Wales has made the point that computer home assistants take much of their data from Wikipedia, one way or another. So as well as getting Spotify to play Frosty the Snowman for you, they may be able to answer the question "is the Pope Catholic?" Possibly by asking for disambiguation (Coptic?).

Amazon Echo device using the Amazon Alexa service in voice search showdown with the Google rival on an Android phone

Headlines about data breaches are now familiar, but the unannounced circulation of information raises other issues. One of those is Gresham's law stated as "bad data drives out good". Wikipedia and now Wikidata have been criticised on related grounds: what if their content, unattributed, is taken to have a higher standing than Wikimedians themselves would grant it? See Wikiquote on a misattribution to Bismarck for the usual quip about "law and sausages", and why one shouldn't watch them in the making.

Wikipedia has now turned 18, so should act like as adult, as well as being treated like one. The Web itself turns 30 some time between March and November this year, per Tim Berners-Lee. If the Knowledge Graph by Google exemplifies Heraclitean Web technology gaining authority, contra GIGO, Wikimedians still have a role in its critique. But not just with the teenage skill of detecting phoniness.

There is more to beating Gresham than exposing the factoid and urban myth, where WP:V does do a great job. Placeholders must be detected, and working with Wikidata is a good way to understand how having one statement as data can blind us to replacing it by a more accurate one. An example that is important to open access is that, firstly, the term itself needs considerable unpacking, because just being able to read material online is a poor relation of "open"; and secondly, trying to get Creative Commons license information into Wikidata shows up issues with classes of license (such as CC-BY) standing for the actual license in major repositories. Detailed investigation shows that "everything flows" exacerbates the issue. But Wikidata can solve it.

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Note to self: fr:Sobia Tahir. Charles Matthews (talk) 21:13, 16 February 2019 (UTC)

The Linux Command Line, etc

William Shotts's book; helpful, I hope: http://www.linuxcommand.org/tlcl.php/ Zazpot (talk) 13:36, 19 February 2019 (UTC)

Your draft article, Draft:Timothy Richard Matthews

 

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Books & Bytes, Issue 32

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Issue 32, January – February 2019

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Facto Post – Issue 21 – 28 February 2019

Facto Post – Issue 21 – 28 February 2019
 

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What is a systematic review?

Systematic reviews are basic building blocks of evidence-based medicine, surveys of existing literature devoted typically to a definite question that aim to bring out scientific conclusions. They are principled in a way Wikipedians can appreciate, taking a critical view of their sources.

 
PRISMA flow diagram for a systematic review

Ben Goldacre in 2014 wrote (link below) "[...] : the "information architecture" of evidence based medicine (if you can tolerate such a phrase) is a chaotic, ad hoc, poorly connected ecosystem of legacy projects. In some respects the whole show is still run on paper, like it's the 19th century." Is there a Wikidatan in the house? Wouldn't some machine-readable content that is structured data help?

File:Schittny, Facing East, 2011, Legacy Projects.jpg
2011 photograph by Bernard Schittny of the "Legacy Projects" group

Most likely it would, but the arcana of systematic reviews and how they add value would still need formal handling. The PRISMA standard dates from 2009, with an update started in 2018. The concerns there include the corpus of papers used: how selected and filtered? Now that Wikidata has a 20.9 million item bibliography, one can at least pose questions. Each systematic review is a tagging opportunity for a bibliography. Could that tagging be reproduced by a query, in principle? Can it even be second-guessed by a query (i.e. simulated by a protocol which translates into SPARQL)? Homing in on the arcana, do the inclusion and filtering criteria translate into metadata? At some level they must, but are these metadata explicitly expressed in the articles themselves? The answer to that is surely "no" at this point, but can TDM find them? Again "no", right now. Automatic identification doesn't just happen.

Actually these questions lack originality. It should be noted though that WP:MEDRS, the reliable sources guideline used here for health information, hinges on the assumption that the usefully systematic reviews of biomedical literature can be recognised. Its nutshell summary, normally the part of a guideline with the highest density of common sense, allows literature reviews in general validity, but WP:MEDASSESS qualifies that indication heavily. Process wonkery about systematic reviews definitely has merit.

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Draft:Charles Henry Blake

Just to let you know, this draft is stale and is eligible for a G13 speedy deletion. -- Dolotta (talk) 16:25, 6 March 2019 (UTC)

Your draft article, Draft:Charles Henry Blake

 

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John Cornford Family

Hello. My husband’s uncle was John Cornford and I wanted to say hello. I have some questions about historical family members and I wonder if you might be able to help me. Let me know a good place to message. Thanks, Sandra Kethertomalkuth (talk) 09:51, 10 March 2019 (UTC)

You can mail me from the sidebar link. Charles Matthews (talk) 09:52, 10 March 2019 (UTC)

Your draft article, Draft:Zarghoona Hassan

 

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Speedy deletion nomination of Jeremiah Smith (Manchester Grammar School)

 

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@Sheldybett: Contested. The text is old: see the attribution link at the bottom. Charles Matthews (talk) 08:04, 16 March 2019 (UTC)
Just a heads up, I have just moved a speedy deletion notice because I accidentally thought is a copyright infringement that it's clearly not for purpose. Sorry for the inconvenience. Sheldybett (talk) 08:09, 16 March 2019 (UTC)
OK, good faith error then. Charles Matthews (talk) 08:10, 16 March 2019 (UTC)

Spelling error

In the February issue of the Facto Post there is a spelling error in the last rectangle of the image File:PRISMA flow diagram.jpg. I don't think it is a big deal but thought you might like to know. Best Regards, Barbara 02:43, 25 March 2019 (UTC)

Ah, thanks. It is a JPG, and so not so easy to edit, I guess. Charles Matthews (talk) 05:57, 25 March 2019 (UTC)

Facto Post – Issue 22 – 28 March 2019

Facto Post – Issue 22 – 28 March 2019
 

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When in the cloud, do as the APIs do

Half a century ago, it was the era of the mainframe computer, with its air-conditioned room, twitching tape-drives, and appearance in the title of a spy novel Billion-Dollar Brain then made into a Hollywood film. Now we have the cloud, with server farms and the client–server model as quotidian: this text is being typed on a Chromebook.

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Logo of Cloud API on Google Cloud Platform

The term Applications Programming Interface or API is 50 years old, and refers to a type of software library as well as the interface to its use. While a compiler is what you need to get high-level code executed by a mainframe, an API out in the cloud somewhere offers a chance to perform operations on a remote server. For example, the multifarious bots active on Wikipedia have owners who exploit the MediaWiki API.

APIs (called RESTful) that allow for the GET HTTP request are fundamental for what could colloquially be called "moving data around the Web"; from which Wikidata benefits 24/7. So the fact that the Wikidata SPARQL endpoint at query.wikidata.org has a RESTful API means that, in lay terms, Wikidata content can be GOT from it. The programming involved, besides the SPARQL language, could be in Python, younger by a few months than the Web.

Magic words, such as occur in fantasy stories, are wishful (rather than RESTful) solutions to gaining access. You may need to be a linguist to enter Ali Baba's cave or the western door of Moria (French in the case of "Open Sesame", in fact, and Sindarin being the respective languages). Talking to an API requires a bigger toolkit, which first means you have to recognise the tools in terms of what they can do. On the way to the wikt:impactful or polymathic modern handling of facts, one must perhaps take only tactful notice of tech's endemic problem with documentation, and absorb the insightful point that the code in APIs does articulate the customary procedures now in place on the cloud for getting information. As Owl explained to Winnie-the-Pooh, it tells you The Thing to Do.

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I have done my best to ignore the topics in these past few issues, but with a good intro and links to further reading from a trusted source I have run out of excuses :) Thank you Charles, sincerely, cygnis insignis 12:15, 28 March 2019 (UTC)
"Just doing my job." @Cygnis insignis:, you are very welcome. Charles Matthews (talk) 12:24, 28 March 2019 (UTC)

Nomination of The Complete Works for deletion

 

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Cudworth

Hi Charles, Thanks for your notification about Ralph Cudworth (died 1624). After spending ever so many hours on the four articles about Ralph Cudworth, its offshoot Ralph Cudworth (died 1624), James Cudworth (colonist) and Damaris Cudworth Masham, over several years, they are now all being furiously tweaked and re-tweaked, and many bold headings added in and careful wordings "compressed", without very substantial content improvement (or verification) by an editor without a userpage - who has so far declined to communicate with me in any way at all (despite an opening gambit on my part), and seems determined to apply his/her reformations to nobody else's work but mine. That, of course, is Wikipedia, but it has made me feel rather disheartened with those articles altogether. Personally I prefer sentences to contain verbs (and I don't think "Snr" is an improvement on "the elder"). But to complain could only cause trouble, so I just keep hold of my own versions for my own use and turn elsewhere. There are plenty of other centuries to keep one amused on a rainy Sunday in the shadow of Bigod's Tower. Thanks again, and kind regards, Eebahgum (talk) 15:00, 7 April 2019 (UTC)

@Eebahgum: That's someone without a great deal of editing experience, so AGF applies. Thanks for alerting me. Charles Matthews (talk) 15:29, 7 April 2019 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Fuzon (Blake)

 

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John Rouse Bloxam

Hi Charles Matthews since you created the article: is this Richard Rouse Bloxam (Q50888399) the father of John Rouse Bloxam? Thank you for your time. Lotje (talk) 14:04, 29 April 2019 (UTC)

@Lotje: Correct. The date of death agrees with the ODNB article about John Rouse Bloxam, and that article also says the father was rector of Brinklow, which is what the CCEd link says. Charles Matthews (talk) 15:06, 29 April 2019 (UTC)

Facto Post – Issue 23 – 30 April 2019

Facto Post – Issue 23 – 30 April 2019
 

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Completely clouded?
 
Cloud computing logo

Talk of cloud computing draws a veil over hardware, but also, less obviously but more importantly, obscures such intellectual distinction as matters most in its use. Wikidata begins to allow tasks to be undertaken that were out of easy reach. The facility should not be taken as the real point.

Coming in from another angle, the "executive decision" is more glamorous; but the "administrative decision" should be admired for its command of facts. Think of the attitudes ad fontes, so prevalent here on Wikipedia as "can you give me a source for that?", and being prepared to deal with complicated analyses into specified subcases. Impatience expressed as a disdain for such pedantry is quite understandable, but neither dirty data nor false dichotomies are at all good to have around.

Issue 13 and Issue 21, respectively on WP:MEDRS and systematic reviews, talk about biomedical literature and computing tasks that would be of higher quality if they could be made more "administrative". For example, it is desirable that the decisions involved be consistent, explicable, and reproducible by non-experts from specified inputs.

What gets clouded out is not impossibly hard to understand. You do need to put together the insights of functional programming, which is a doctrinaire and purist but clearcut approach, with the practicality of office software. Loopless computation can be conceived of as a seamless forward march of spreadsheet columns, each determined by the content of previous ones. Very well: to do a backward audit, when now we are talking about Wikidata, we rely on integrity of data and its scrupulous sourcing: and clearcut case analyses. The MEDRS example forces attention on purge attempts such as Beall's list.

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ArbCom 2019 special circular

 
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Administrator account security (Correction to Arbcom 2019 special circular)

ArbCom would like to apologise and correct our previous mass message in light of the response from the community.

Since November 2018, six administrator accounts have been compromised and temporarily desysopped. In an effort to help improve account security, our intention was to remind administrators of existing policies on account security — that they are required to "have strong passwords and follow appropriate personal security practices." We have updated our procedures to ensure that we enforce these policies more strictly in the future. The policies themselves have not changed. In particular, two-factor authentication remains an optional means of adding extra security to your account. The choice not to enable 2FA will not be considered when deciding to restore sysop privileges to administrator accounts that were compromised.

We are sorry for the wording of our previous message, which did not accurately convey this, and deeply regret the tone in which it was delivered.

For the Arbitration Committee, -Cameron11598 21:03, 4 May 2019 (UTC)

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Invitation to join the Fifteen Year Society

 

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I accept. Charles Matthews (talk) 19:07, 8 May 2019 (UTC)

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Facto Post – Issue 24 – 17 May 2019

Facto Post – Issue 24 – 17 May 2019
 
Text mining display of noun phrases from the US Presidential Election 2012
 

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Semantic Web and TDM – a ContentMine view

Two dozen issues, and this may be the last, a valediction at least for a while.

It's time for a two-year summation of ContentMine projects involving TDM (text and data mining).

Wikidata and now Structured Data on Commons represent the overlap of Wikimedia with the Semantic Web. This common ground is helping to convert an engineering concept into a movement. TDM generally has little enough connection with the Semantic Web, being instead in the orbit of machine learning which is no respecter of the semantic. Don't break a taboo by asking bots "and what do you mean by that?"

The ScienceSource project innovates in TDM, by storing its text mining results in a Wikibase site. It strives for compliance of its fact mining, on drug treatments of diseases, with an automated form of the relevant Wikipedia referencing guideline MEDRS. Where WikiFactMine set up an API for reuse of its results, ScienceSource has a SPARQL query service, with look-and-feel exactly that of Wikidata's at query.wikidata.org. It also now has a custom front end, and its content can be federated, in other words used in data mashups: it is one of over 50 sites that can federate with Wikidata.

The human factor comes to bear through the front end, which combines a link to the HTML version of a paper, text mining results organised in drug and disease columns, and a SPARQL display of nearby drug and disease terms. Much software to develop and explain, so little time! Rather than telling the tale, Facto Post brings you ScienceSource links, starting from the how-to video, lower right.

ScienceSourceReview, introductory video: but you need run it from the original upload file on Commons
Links for participation

The review tool requires a log in on sciencesource.wmflabs.org, and an OAuth permission (bottom of a review page) to operate. It can be used in simple and more advanced workflows. Examples of queries for the latter are at d:Wikidata_talk:ScienceSource project/Queries#SS_disease_list and d:Wikidata_talk:ScienceSource_project/Queries#NDF-RT issue.

Please be aware that this is a research project in development, and may have outages for planned maintenance. That will apply for the next few days, at least. The ScienceSource wiki main page carries information on practical matters. Email is not enabled on the wiki: use site mail here to Charles Matthews in case of difficulty, or if you need support. Further explanatory videos will be put into commons:Category:ContentMine videos.


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Books & Bytes, Issue 33

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Your draft article, Draft:Marga Gil Roësset

 

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Nomination of Open loop for deletion

 

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Books & Bytes Issue 34, May – June 2019

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Hans Droysen listed at Redirects for discussion

 

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Alighieri Dante listed at Redirects for discussion

 

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Category:Participants in the Savoy Conference has been nominated for discussion

 

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Capuche

Young Charles, hope you're well. I was surprised to see this article missing. Just took me a few hours to do that, I've lost my old diligence of editing, I find it fiddly writing articles nowadays! The source says something about brown becoming the norm by the 19th century yet I associate medieval monks with brown. Can you check the facts on this and expand it if you can as I remember the Franciscans were in your realm. Thanks.♦ Dr. Blofeld 09:21, 9 August 2019 (UTC)

@Dr. Blofeld: Good to hear from you. I've never found it easy to keep the medieval mendicant orders sorted out: Blackfriars were Dominicans, Greyfriars Franciscans, Whitefriars were Carmelites. The other medieval mendicant order was the Servites. The Capuchins, being 16th century, were formed as part of the Franciscans, and were called Brownfriars (and hence the coffee connection). Of course monks generally means something different from friars, both being regular clergy subject to a rule, but operating differently. To complicate matters of religious habit, it seems that Franciscans do wear brown, but St Francis began by wearing grey sackcloth, peasant dress in Italy of that time. The brown woollen habit is associated with penitence. Charles Matthews (talk) 06:50, 10 August 2019 (UTC)

Thanks for clarifying Charles. Sometimes when you can only find scraps (at least with what you're permitted to read online) it can get contradictory or confusing. As long as the article is accurate! ♦ Dr. Blofeld 07:47, 10 August 2019 (UTC)

"Döblin" listed at Redirects for discussion

 

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William Mitchell Ramsay

There is a problem with the sentence about Ramsay's education which appears to have been introduced to the article by you - see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:William_Mitchell_Ramsay#Andrew_Mitchell --PeterR2 (talk) 18:34, 28 August 2019 (UTC)

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List of municipalities in Soria

Hi Charles. I notice the population data is way out of date, a lot of them have lost half of their population since through younger people moving to larger towns. I was wondering if you could get the lists to feed off of Wikidata which has 2018 figures? Thanks.♦ Dr. Blofeld 11:27, 30 August 2019 (UTC)

@Dr. Blofeld: Looks like the best that can be done is 2013, at least in some cases. Charles Matthews (talk) 11:31, 30 August 2019 (UTC)

Adradas uses 2018 from wikidata but I think it's estimated. ♦ Dr. Blofeld 11:33, 30 August 2019 (UTC)

Ah, OK, confused by the numbering. Charles Matthews (talk) 11:35, 30 August 2019 (UTC)
@Dr. Blofeld: So this query works to extract the data you want: [4].

Suppress columns, use the download button options and so on, to wrangle things further. Let me know how you get on. Charles Matthews (talk) 12:07, 30 August 2019 (UTC)

Eeks, I presumed there was some sort of bot you could use to update the table using wikidata figures!♦ Dr. Blofeld 12:51, 30 August 2019 (UTC)

Well, yes, the Listeria bot can make tables from queries like that one. But as far as I know it is not allowed in mainspace here. It could be set up in your userspace, and some use made of it that way. Charles Matthews (talk) 16:26, 30 August 2019 (UTC)

"The Real Definition of a Republic" listed at Redirects for discussion

 

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Speedy deletion nomination of Navratilova, Martina

 

A tag has been placed on Navratilova, Martina requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done for the following reason:

redundancy - it just a revers of a name and redirect

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@Loginnigol: Take this to Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion, where there were recent related debates. Charles Matthews (talk) 09:29, 15 September 2019 (UTC)

Your qid

Hi. I'm building {{WiR_table_row}} to help automate the Wikipedians_in_Residence table. Do you have an existing qid? T.Shafee(Evo&Evo)talk 12:53, 23 September 2019 (UTC)

Structured Data - blogs posted in Wikimedia Space

There are two separate blog entries for Structured Data on Commons posted to Wikimedia Space that are of interest:

  • Working with Structured Data on Commons: A Status Report, by Lucas Werkmeister, discusses some ways that editors can work with structured data. Topics include tools that have been written or modified for structured data, in addition to future plans for tools and querying services.
  • Structured Data on Commons - A Blog Series, written by me, is a five-part posting that covers the basics of the software and features that were built to make structured data happen. The series is meant to be friendly to those who may have some knowledge of Commons, but may not know much about the structured data project.
I hope these are informative and useful, comments and questions are welcome. All the blogs offer a comment feature, and you can log in with your Wikimedia account using oAuth. I look forward to seeing some posts over there. -- Keegan (WMF) (talk) 21:33, 23 September 2019 (UTC)
@Keegan (WMF): Wikidata is under-documented. It looks like SDoC is going the same way. Serious consideration should be given to providing actual documentation of basics. Blogposts are not the same thing at all. Charles Matthews (talk) 04:04, 24 September 2019 (UTC)
Hello, Charles. The blogs are not meant to supplant canon documentation. Is there a particular type of documentation are you looking for? Technical? Community policy on usage? Something else? Perhaps I can help you find it, or work towards filling the gaps if I can't. Keegan (WMF) (talk) 17:04, 24 September 2019 (UTC)
@Keegan (WMF): Well, a dozen years ago I was facing the writing of How Wikipedia Works, from an outline supplied to a publisher, as co-author. This is going to be a "call me old-fashioned" moment. But there is nothing resembling an O'Reilly book for Wikidata: I mean a reference work, and there is also nothing resembling that No Starch book. For SDoC you cannot make assumptions about technical background.
I'll put it another way. It is well known that developers dislike writing documentation, except as peer-to-peer, in other words expert writing for expert fashion. Having worked with developers on a Wikidata+Wikibase project for 12 months, it is quite clear to me that Wikimedia has an issue with its documentation also assuming people come to it from a MediaWiki background: which was not the case with the two developers in question.
"Informative and useful" is always relative to audience. Please consider the need to be inclusive. Charles Matthews (talk) 03:55, 25 September 2019 (UTC)

Books & Bytes – Issue 35, July – August 2019

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2020 London mayoral election

Hello Charles, there is an edit war going on here. Someone is refusing to allow the LibDem candidate Siobhan Benita to be there, and also Rory Stewart. I hope this can be fixed. All the best meanwhile ixo (talk) 13:11, 4 October 2019 (UTC)

I have taken a couple of steps there. Charles Matthews (talk) 15:02, 4 October 2019 (UTC)
Thanks very much for your wise input ixo (talk) 16:30, 4 October 2019 (UTC)