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InternetArchiveBot and Listeria

InternetArchiveBot should not edit content that is maintained by ListeriaBot; its edits will simply be over-written. The simplest way to test for this would be to check for the presence of {{Wikidata list}} (or local equivalents, per Template:Wikidata list (Q19860885)). Any required updates should instead be made in Wikidata, from where the content is sourced. For an example where this is an issue, see species:Repositories/Wikidata. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 10:00, 20 April 2019 (UTC)

Pigsonthewing, Is it possible to have ListeriaBot use the {{nobots}} template on those pages. IABot respects those.—CYBERPOWER (Happy Easter) 15:55, 21 April 2019 (UTC)

Wouldn't that stop ListeriaBot form doing its work? Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 16:05, 21 April 2019 (UTC)

Pigsonthewing, Oh yea. I guess I need to treat Wikidata list as a nobots template.—CYBERPOWER (Happy Easter) 19:33, 21 April 2019 (UTC)

Wrong ukrainian grammatical cases

Hi! Your InternetArchiveBot mistakenly replaces genitive case of month names with nominative within dates (Ukrainian: Ваш InternetArchiveBot помилково замінює родовий відмінок назв місяців у датах називним). For example, https://uk.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=24970760. --Рассилон (talk) 07:38, 24 April 2019 (UTC)

Рассилон, I could have sworn that I fixed this months ago. I'll have to take another look.—CYBERPOWER (Chat) 14:37, 24 April 2019 (UTC)

Unbalanced tags in bot sig

I don't know if this is still the case, but your bot sig is or was at one point missing two html end tags, which can have knock-on effects on any Talk page discussions following the sig of this bot. It (used to) look like this:

[[User:Cyberbot II|<sup style="color:green;font-family:Courier">cyberbot II]]<small><sub style="margin-left:-14.9ex;color:green;font-family:Comic Sans MS">[[User talk:Cyberbot II|<span style="color:green">Talk to my owner]]:Online</sub></small>

What it should look like (probably; depends how you want it) is this:

[[User:Cyberbot II|<sup style="color:green;font-family:Courier">cyberbot II</sup>]]<small><sub style="margin-left:-14.9ex;color:green;font-family:Comic Sans MS">[[User talk:Cyberbot II|<span style="color:green">Talk to my owner</span>]]:Online</sub></small>

Perhaps you've fixed this already, in which case it's moot. You could also use {{Green|lorem ipsum}} rather than <span style="color:green">lorem ipsum</span>}} which you might find easier.

Furthermore, your subscript is already in green, so you don't really need to double up on it with the <span>, as it's still within scope of the <sub>, unless you want to force it to green no matter the link state (active, visited, unvisited) which is what happens now.

Cheers, Mathglot (talk) 09:07, 24 April 2019 (UTC)

80k uses. A WP:Bot request can probably be submitted. --Izno (talk) 13:10, 24 April 2019 (UTC)

Mathglot, Fake news. JK. But it's old news, and long fixed.—CYBERPOWER (Chat) 14:38, 24 April 2019 (UTC)

Using IABot to add archive links to links that aren't dead

Hi there, I'm trying to get a little more information about IABot. One of the articles I work on was edited yesterday using IABot, the user added 151 Internet Archive links to all of the external links in the pages references. I reverted the edit because none of the 151 links were dead, they all still worked. The user said they "did this to combat link rot." Is this something you've seen lots of editors using the bot for, or a use that you were aware of? Is there a wider discussion about this sort of usage?-- Patrick, _oѺ^∞ 22:09, 22 April 2019 (UTC)

Hey It's very mean to address me with "they". As you can see I have already disclosed that I am a male in my user page. I don't like to be addressed by genderneutral pronouns. Sincerely, Masum Reza^☎ 01:48, 24 April 2019 (UTC)

@Masumrezarock100: Users are not obligated to check your userpage to see how you prefer to be addressed. When user's are uncertain of gender, it's polite to use they unless instructed otherwise. If you don't like being called "they", I would suggest adding a gender symbol in your signature identifying you as male.—CYBERPOWER (Chat) 14:36, 24 April 2019 (UTC)

Patrickneil, Yes I have. It's up to the editor that invokes the bot whether or not to rescue live links. They do so with knowing that they take responsibility for the edit made on their behalf.—CYBERPOWER (Chat) 14:36, 24 April 2019 (UTC)

Okay, thanks, I have never seen this specific use of archive.org links before, so wasn't sure about calling out the user (who as you see followed me here) if it was a potential misuse of your bot. Adding an "archivelink" to a source that works seems like a solution in search of a problem to me, and one that should probably receive some discussion before wider implementation, I just don't know where exactly to post that discussion. Thanks again.-- Patrick, _oѺ^∞ 16:05, 24 April 2019 (UTC)

InternetArchiveBot

Hello Cyberpower678, sorry for posting here, but in eswiki the bot's reporting system writes automatically in the local user talk page. Let me know if you have troubles with spanish language. -- Leoncastro (talk) 20:06, 22 April 2019 (UTC)

Leoncastro, If you could translate your post into English, I would greatly appreciate it. Google Translate is not always reliable.—CYBERPOWER (Chat) 14:32, 24 April 2019 (UTC)

Your bot made a change absolutely unnecessary (adding a space at the end of the parameters) and also against the eswiki local policies (making cosmetic changes without their presentation to the reader being modified), and not really changing the link. It should have done this edition. My english is not very good either. -- Leoncastro (talk) 19:34, 24 April 2019 (UTC)

Leoncastro, that right there is a bug. It tried to do something, but it failed and only inserted a space instead.—CYBERPOWER (Chat) 19:40, 24 April 2019 (UTC)

You should not insert anything instead. -- Leoncastro (talk) 19:53, 24 April 2019 (UTC)

Leoncastro, It can't detect that. It tried to insert something separated by a space and it failed. The intended edit was not meant to be cosmetic. IABot never makes cosmetic edits by design. Any cosmetic edit it makes is a result of an internal failure that needs to be fixed.—CYBERPOWER (Chat) 19:57, 24 April 2019 (UTC)

IABot configuration for Azerbaijani Wikipedia

Hello. What should I do to add IABot to azwiki?--NMW03 (talk) 18:45, 22 April 2019 (UTC)

NMW03, Start a discussion there to see if there is support for the bot, gather a couple of translators and come back to me. :-)—CYBERPOWER (Chat) 14:31, 24 April 2019 (UTC)

• Discussion is here. I can translate it :)--NMW03 (talk) 10:49, 25 April 2019 (UTC)

Just asking

Why you always have 75% energy left? Sincerely, Masum Reza^☎ 17:27, 24 April 2019 (UTC)

It's a resemblance of my patience with Wikipedia.—CYBERPOWER (Chat) 21:39, 26 April 2019 (UTC)

WikiJabber

Dear User:Cyberpower678, our talk at WikiConference North America has been published. See https://wikijabber.com/wikijab020-cyberpower678/ and meta:WikiJabber. Regards --Sebastian Wallroth (talk) 06:34, 25 April 2019 (UTC)

Looks good. Thanks.—CYBERPOWER (Chat) 21:39, 26 April 2019 (UTC)

Request

Hi, I would like to request for your bot to add the Template:WPEUR10k, to all articles that appears in the list of created articles at Wikipedia:The 2500 Challenge (Nordic) and Wikipedia:The 10,000 Challenge. I think it would be very helpful so all the articles recieved the template tag. I suggest this as there are literally thousands of articles in need of the tag. I understand if you can not help with this, but I took a a chance shot. Thanks.--BabbaQ (talk) 13:37, 26 April 2019 (UTC)

Sorry, that's not anywhere near IABot's job description.—CYBERPOWER (Chat) 21:42, 26 April 2019 (UTC)

Bot job request in the Japanese Wikipedia

Hello, User:cyberpower678. I have some bot jobs that I would like ask you to do, so I came up from the Japanese Wikipedia (jawp). In February of this year, I and User:Dark Little Star-san (ja:User:リトルスターさん in Japanese) requested the addition of archive links to the articles on the bot Request page in jawp. However, there is no user who can deal with it on jawp, so I would like to ask your IA-bot for help.

The articles requested here are all articles which are sourced from the three broken websites that release reviews of game titles, such as "Girls-Style", "Game-Style", and "Dengekihime.com". More specifically, the following links will help you find them. I'd appreciate if you could accept our request. Thank you.

1. ja:特別:検索/insource:"http://www.girls-style.jp/" (92 items)
2. ja:特別:検索/insource:"http://www.game-style.jp/" (265 items)
3. ja:特別:検索/insource:"http://dengeki-hime.com/" (57 items) --stck_w (^Talk/_Edits） 06:29, 28 April 2019 (UTC)

youtu dot be

Hi,

I heard your excellent interview on the WikiJabber podcast, and wanted to ask a few follow-up things! Here's the first: Can you maybe take a look at the discussion on meta:Talk:Spam blacklist#youtu.be? (In case the link doesn't work properly or if the discussion is archived: It's a proposal to remove the blacklisting of youtu.be, which I started on April 14.)

The reason I'm asking you about this is that you said that your bot has a feature to change known links to sites that went dead to a new pattern. The problem with youtu.be links is not that they are dead, but that their format and function as a redirect are undesirable, but other than that it looks like the same feature could be used to fix them. If the blacklisting is removed, could your bot be conveniently used to automatically and reliably change youtu.be links to youtube.com links (to the same video of course) soon after a page is published?

Thanks! --Amir E. Aharoni (talk) 07:58, 28 April 2019 (UTC)

Would I be able to usurp User:Comrades in six months' time?

Hello there Cyber. I want to thank you for giving me six months to muddle over my name! As I have discovered better names than before. I just came here because I am wondering if it is possible to usurp Comrades as my username. As it is currently taken by someone who registered back in 2012. It's not my final decision. I am just wondering if I can. Thank you. The Duke 19:41, 29 April 2019 (UTC)

InternetArchiveBot rewrote excellent archives

Hello, colleague! Thank you for your work for improving Wikipedia. Please explain the strange situation.

On April 27 2019 InternetArchiveBot rewrote 99 archives in the article Израиль in Russian wikipedia. I and the other authors of this article are really curious - why it happened. We always thought that a bot should only add archives to the sources having no archives. If the archive exists and its address is written in "archiveurl" field of the "cite web" template, there is no need to write anything instead. "Израиль" is the Featured article, all its archives are made and checked thoroughly by the authors. The most curious thing is that not a single archive was added, whereas 99 ones were overwritten. The new archives were not better than the existing ones, some were worse. The serious drawback is that the addresses (url) of the new archives were some 3-4 times longer than the previous ones, which makes the article heavier for no reason.

If you are not responsible for this bot, please advice who can help us. Thank you for your attention. We, the authors of the article, will wait for your answer here. --AllaRo (talk) 18:13, 29 April 2019 (UTC)

@AllaRo: The bot didn't overwrite the article, but expanded them to reveal what was hidden behind those URLs. In other words, they were normalized. The "new" URLs are actually going to the same location as before, so I fail to see how any could be worse being they are exactly the same archives.—CYBERPOWER (Chat) 19:16, 29 April 2019 (UTC)

• We are trying to understand the meaning of your answer. Sincerely, --AllaRo (talk) 19:31, 29 April 2019 (UTC)

  @AllaRo: IABot didn't change the archives, just expanded the URLs. The archives are still all the same as they were before.19:33, 29 April 2019 (UTC)

The reason why this is done is because this URL http://archive.is/UY6Rd is shortened and Wikipedia has a policy that URL shortening is disallowed for reasons given here URL_shortening#Shortcomings and because the Wikipedia blacklist filters can not detect a short URL. So the bots expand the URL to long format so the underlying URL is visible to the blacklist filters, bots, tools and users. The long and short URL operate exactly the same going to the same place. -- GreenC 19:43, 29 April 2019 (UTC)

Thank you, I understood. --AllaRo (talk) 23:08, 29 April 2019 (UTC)

Would I be able to usurp User:Comrades in six months' time?

Hello there Cyber. I want to thank you for giving me six months to muddle over my name! As I have discovered better names than before. I just came here because I am wondering if it is possible to usurp Comrades as my username. As it is currently taken by someone who registered back in 2012. It's not my final decision. I am just wondering if I can. Thank you. The Duke 19:41, 29 April 2019 (UTC)

InternetArchiveBot rewrote excellent archives

Hello, colleague! Thank you for your work for improving Wikipedia. Please explain the strange situation.

On April 27 2019 InternetArchiveBot rewrote 99 archives in the article Израиль in Russian wikipedia. I and the other authors of this article are really curious - why it happened. We always thought that a bot should only add archives to the sources having no archives. If the archive exists and its address is written in "archiveurl" field of the "cite web" template, there is no need to write anything instead. "Израиль" is the Featured article, all its archives are made and checked thoroughly by the authors. The most curious thing is that not a single archive was added, whereas 99 ones were overwritten. The new archives were not better than the existing ones, some were worse. The serious drawback is that the addresses (url) of the new archives were some 3-4 times longer than the previous ones, which makes the article heavier for no reason.

If you are not responsible for this bot, please advice who can help us. Thank you for your attention. We, the authors of the article, will wait for your answer here. --AllaRo (talk) 18:13, 29 April 2019 (UTC)

@AllaRo: The bot didn't overwrite the article, but expanded them to reveal what was hidden behind those URLs. In other words, they were normalized. The "new" URLs are actually going to the same location as before, so I fail to see how any could be worse being they are exactly the same archives.—CYBERPOWER (Chat) 19:16, 29 April 2019 (UTC)

• We are trying to understand the meaning of your answer. Sincerely, --AllaRo (talk) 19:31, 29 April 2019 (UTC)

  @AllaRo: IABot didn't change the archives, just expanded the URLs. The archives are still all the same as they were before.19:33, 29 April 2019 (UTC)

The reason why this is done is because this URL http://archive.is/UY6Rd is shortened and Wikipedia has a policy that URL shortening is disallowed for reasons given here URL_shortening#Shortcomings and because the Wikipedia blacklist filters can not detect a short URL. So the bots expand the URL to long format so the underlying URL is visible to the blacklist filters, bots, tools and users. The long and short URL operate exactly the same going to the same place. -- GreenC 19:43, 29 April 2019 (UTC)

Thank you, I understood. --AllaRo (talk) 23:08, 29 April 2019 (UTC)

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ArbCom 2019 special circular

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Bot removing https

Your bot is removing https from arquivo.pt links. SLBedit (talk) 23:13, 13 May 2019 (UTC)

@SLBedit: Do you know of an example diff or edit? -- GreenC 14:35, 16 May 2019 (UTC)

IABot Management Interface for pl.wiki

Hello

I hope that you will return to wiki-life. If/when you will return can you, please, answer to such question: what is needed to run IABot Management Interface for pl.wiki? PMG (talk) 15:02, 14 May 2019 (UTC)

PMG, Ideally you would need a community discussion favoring deployment of the bot to get started.—CYBERPOWER (Chat) 14:39, 17 May 2019 (UTC)

Famitsu and maniac

• http://www.famitsu.com
• http://www.maniac.de

I use the internet archive bot extensively, but it seems to not be archiving pages from famitsu and maniac. For instance, in this instance famitsu is used on the page, but not archived. This edit saved the famitsu page, but not maniac. I've found that to reliably archive these pages I have to do it manually. Harizotoh9 (talk) 16:06, 1 May 2019 (UTC)

Harizotoh9, it may have been a temporary issue. I see nothing to indicate it shouldn't skip on these going forward.—CYBERPOWER (Chat) 14:49, 17 May 2019 (UTC)

CyberBot book issue?

Hello! I saw that the book bot tried to audit the book for Never Let Me Down but there were some issues - it claims that most of the articles don't exist (when in fact they do - the book covers a Good Topic). I tried to make some manual edits but since the bot runs frequently, it over-wrote my changes. I was just hoping you could take a look and figure out why it's claiming there are errors. The .sig from the bot says to talk to you, but your comment on your talk page makes me think maybe that's no longer true? Anywhere, here's a link to the book page: Book:Never Let Me Down. If I've got it wrong, or need to talk to someone else, please let me know. Thanks! 87Fan (talk) 21:21, 1 May 2019 (UTC)

87Fan, you should avoid using double quotes and single quotes around the linked pages on the Book page. Remove those and it should work.—CYBERPOWER (Chat) 14:58, 17 May 2019 (UTC)

IABot for SqWiki

Hello! I'm an admin at the Albanian Wikipedia. Lately I've been dealing with the CS1 module and its categories for our community. It's not been compatible 100% with our community but it has helped us a lot by giving us a way to keep an eye on the references, the section most overlooked when creating or translating an article (at least on our community). Today I found the page for your bot and I was wondering if it could be implemented to our community too. It would be a great help and give us yet another tool to deal with the references' problems. I hope you can help us if you do return to the wiki community. :) - Klein Muçi (talk) 11:19, 15 May 2019 (UTC)

Klein Muçi, Sure. To get started, I would need community approval first. Can you start a discussion there?—CYBERPOWER (Chat) 14:41, 17 May 2019 (UTC)

Cyberpower678, I did so. I'll write again when we get some participation. Thank you! :) - Klein Muçi (talk) 15:39, 17 May 2019 (UTC)

Cyberpower678, our community welcomed the idea after the discussion and voting I opened on the subject. Please check the above link. What is the next step? - Klein Muçi (talk) 03:06, 26 May 2019 (UTC)

IAbot makes duplicates

Hello!

At several last days The InternetArchiveBot added doubles of the archived links, example.
IAbot don't look existing "| archiveurl=" and "| archivedate=" and inserts new {{Wayback... with same URL.
--Grumbler eburg (talk) 12:04, 16 May 2019 (UTC)

@Grumbler eburg: Based on the documentation, it didn't look like the template supported those values. I have corrected the bot's configuration.—CYBERPOWER (Chat) 14:37, 17 May 2019 (UTC)

Thanks. Templates in the Ru-Wikipedia contain differences with same templates of the En-Wiki (En-Wiki: "archive-date" , ru-Wiki "archivedate", etc. It's true for all "{{cite ...". Grumbler eburg (talk) 17:50, 17 May 2019 (UTC)

FYI, if you wanted to, you could do a basic check of Module:Citation/CS1/Whitelist and the Aliases table in Module:Citation/CS1/Configuration for supported parameters and aliases for wikis with a module driving the show. (Speaking of, I wonder if those the whitelist and the aliases table shouldn't be the same table.) --Izno (talk) 18:53, 17 May 2019 (UTC)

Just asking

What's going on? You're on indefinite wikibreak! Does this mean you aren't going to return to Wikipedia? Sincerely, Masum Reza^☎ 16:53, 4 May 2019 (UTC)

@Masumrezarock100: Family matters.—CYBERPOWER (Chat) 16:35, 17 May 2019 (UTC)

I see. Glad to have you back. Sincerely, Masum Reza^☎ 09:13, 18 May 2019 (UTC)

Bot job request for ja-wiki

Hi, User:cyberpower678. I informed you here once on April 28, but as my post was archived during your Wikibreak, I would like to request the following again.

I have some bot jobs that I would like ask you to do, so I came up from the Japanese Wikipedia (ja-wiki). In February of this year, I and User:Dark Little Star-san (ja:User:リトルスターさん in Japanese) requested the addition of archive links to the articles on the bot request page in ja-wiki. However, there is no user who can deal with it, so I would like to ask your IABot for help.

The articles requested here are all articles which are sourced from the three broken websites that release reviews of game titles, namely "Girls-Style", "Game-Style", and "Dengekihime.com". More specifically, the following links will help you find them. I'd appreciate if you could accept our request. Thank you.

1. ja:特別:検索/insource:"http://www.girls-style.jp/" (92 items)
2. ja:特別:検索/insource:"http://www.game-style.jp/" (265 items)
3. ja:特別:検索/insource:"http://dengeki-hime.com/" (57 items) --stck_w (^Talk/_Edits） 03:57, 19 May 2019 (UTC)

Stck w, Unfortunately I cannot. IABot's approval was revoked on jawiki because of issues I can't even remember what. If you want me to carry out the task, I need members of the community to lobby for approval as any attempt to communication simply goes unanswered.—CYBERPOWER (Around) 11:18, 20 May 2019 (UTC)

Problem with bot applying dates in wrong format, not adhering to the cs1-dates parameter

Hi Cyberpower678, I see that you are on wikibreak (enjoy!) but hope you are still reading this. I would like to report a bug but cannot log in into the suggested reporting tool, therefore I have to report it here. In this edit InternetArchiveBot expanded an archive link (fine), but also unnecessarily added a |df= parameter and changed the date format. However, since cs1/cs2 citation templates now support auto-date formatting, it is almost never necessary to add the |df= parameter any more (it may even become deprecated over time), and when the bot inserts or updates dates in citations, it should follow the format defined by the optional |cs1-dates= parameter of the {{Use dmy dates}}/{{Use mdy dates}} templates, if it is being used in an article. In this case, the date format for citations was set to "y", so the bot should have used the ymd format. but it changed the |archive-date= from the correct "2019-04-22" to the incorrect "22 April 2019". Since the citation template will auto-format the date, this is normally only visible on source code level, but nevertheless, it should not happen. And in this case, the bot even added |df= and thereby forced the citation to show up in the wrong date format. I guess, your bot already checks for the existance of {{Use dmy dates}}/{{Use mdy dates}}, but just didn't know about the |cs1-dates= parameter yet. So, please update your bot to adhere to the |cs1-dates= parameter's setting and no longer insert |df= into citations, so that it no longer creates unnecessary inconsistencies. Thanks and greetings. --Matthiaspaul (talk) 11:52, 6 May 2019 (UTC)

I think making changes to the bot at this time for this change that has been made is probably premature. We took a representative test case (Barack Obama) but there may be other places where the approach that was taken by Trappist will not be viable for performance or technical reasons. --Izno (talk) 14:11, 6 May 2019 (UTC)

Sorry, but no. The changes made to the templates which are intended for automated processes was made unilaterally by a single user with the intent to enhance the CS1/2 templates. While I can most certainly remove the uses of df going forward, the changes made to the templates don't make much sense, are too costly to implement technically for IABot, and essentially break other bots that read them. I can very easily tell the bot to look for a {{Use ymd dates}} template, but I will not be implementing something that is specific to enwiki on a bot that runs globally. Sorry.—CYBERPOWER (Chat) 16:39, 17 May 2019 (UTC)

And how do you think the problem should be solved then? While it is a bit ironic that this is caused by a change somewhere else and I certainly don't expect immediate action, this is also not a condition which can be accepted long-term, because right now bots create damage to the project whenever they insert dates in wrong formats into citations.

I would think that everyone should work together to find a solution, and unless cs1/2 auto-date formatting would be withdrawn the only way I see is by updating all bots to take the new parameter into account. This may take some while, but isn't it worth it? Isn't adapting bots to changes moving forward in the project a rather normal process?

If it is easy for you to look for something like {{Use ymd dates}} (which I personally would support, but which does not exist in the English WP as our MOS doesn't allow ymd dates in article bodies yet, only in references and tables) it should be almost as easy to look for a certain parameter of the {{Use dmy dates}} and {{Use mdy dates}} templates as well. I can't see how sensing for this would negatively affect IABot's behaviour in other language entities of Wikipedia.

I would appreciate your constructive feedback.

--Matthiaspaul (talk) 16:36, 19 May 2019 (UTC)

{{use ymd dates}} was recently confirmed for deletion at this tfd.

—Trappist the monk (talk) 11:51, 20 May 2019 (UTC)

Because I just essentially rebuilt how the configuration of IABot is defined to make it more efficient and easier to manage and none of the templates had hidden parameters to listen for so I didn't build the new interface to handle it. This is a major change to that setup and, IMO, not worth the time to implement it for the small gain it delivers.—CYBERPOWER (Chat) 16:40, 19 May 2019 (UTC)

IABot

Hi, would you please add fawiki to IABot?Yamaha5 (talk) 20:57, 9 May 2019 (UTC)

• Hello. According to the question above, is it technically okay? I can start a discussion and report the result to you, but I need your confirmation first. Can you configure it for fawiki? Thanks. Ahmad^Talk 16:31, 17 May 2019 (UTC)

  Ahmad252, yes. IABot is intended to run on any WMF wiki that will accept it.—CYBERPOWER (Chat) 16:42, 17 May 2019 (UTC)

  Hello again. I just found out that you already suggested your bot to us. That discussion shows that our community agreed, and this also shows that everyone like it. Can we start the technical part? Thanks. Ahmad^Talk 08:11, 18 May 2019 (UTC)

  Ahmad252 Yes. But I have multiple issues going on right now, so patience is requested.—CYBERPOWER (Chat) 22:16, 18 May 2019 (UTC)

  Of course. I see. Please ping me whenever you are ready to start. Ahmad^Talk 06:40, 19 May 2019 (UTC)

  Ahmad252, are you on Phabricator? Please see phab:T169468 where I will ask a series of questions.—CYBERPOWER (Around) 02:24, 20 May 2019 (UTC)

  I just joined. Will do, thanks. Ahmad^Talk 03:35, 20 May 2019 (UTC)

   Done Ahmad^Talk 13:07, 20 May 2019 (UTC)

How to report this?

Hi - I have a question about how to report an error committed by the InternetArchiveBot. The bot's talk page says to "report a false positive" if I found "a URL that is alive and the bot thinks it's dead", but the problem that I encountered is essentially the opposite - I found two dead urls that the the bot thinks are alive. Archived versions of these two urls are being used as sources in the article AJ Gil, but the InternetArchiveBot added "dead url = no" to each of them. I've reverted the bot, but am curious how to report this. Should I go through the "Report a false positive" tool? Or is there another way to report this type of error? Thanks. --Jpcase (talk) 14:00, 2 May 2019 (UTC)

Jpcase In the case of this particular URL, the domain is whitelisted because IABot has determined that it can't reliably assess the status of the URL. There is no particular way to report these kinds of issues. Rather, in most cases, you can go to https://tools.wmflabs.org/iabot/index.php?page=manageurlsingle to alter URL metadata there.—CYBERPOWER (Chat) 16:35, 17 May 2019 (UTC)

I wouldn't know how to do that...but thanks for the response! --Jpcase (talk) 16:56, 17 May 2019 (UTC)

Jpcase, There's a how to manual at the top of the page. Just follow its instructions and you should be golden.—CYBERPOWER (Chat) 17:04, 17 May 2019 (UTC)

Ah, okay - thanks! I see that now. I've never been on that website before though, and know exactly nothing about how bots work. The how to manual is saying that "privileged users can un/set the live state to blacklisted", but the manual doesn't seem to explain how to become a "privileged user".

It appears that I don't currently have the ability to set the urls to blacklisted. Would you be able to help me with that? --Jpcase (talk) 23:04, 17 May 2019 (UTC)

Jpcase, actually you only need to set it to dead. Admins of a supported wiki have that privilege. If you go under Meta and goto Interface Information, you can see all the permissions there and how they are obtained.—CYBERPOWER (Chat) 23:13, 17 May 2019 (UTC)

Oh, my bad. I was able to set one of the two urls to dead, but it looks like the other one has been whitelisted for some reason. And as long as it's whitelisted, it can only be set to dead by someone with special permissions, right? So will I need an administrator to help me with this? --Jpcase (talk) 23:57, 17 May 2019 (UTC)

Jpcase, That would typically need a root like me to change it. If it's whitelisted, it means the bot couldn't correctly assess the domain and stopped checking it. However if you can confirm it's dead all around, I can change it dead.—CYBERPOWER (Around) 11:14, 20 May 2019 (UTC)

This is the link - https://abc.go.com/shows/american-idol/contestants/season1/aj_gil/

I'm not sure what would qualify as "dead all around", but the web page that I need to use as a reference is no longer accessible through that link, so I need to use an archived version of the page. When you click on that link, it redirects to a completely different webpage. --Jpcase (talk) 14:10, 20 May 2019 (UTC)

IABot job queue seems to be hung?

Job 3761 from May 15 seems to be partially completed, but progress is stalled and the queue is starting to back up. Just thought you'd want to know. —hike395 (talk) 02:57, 22 May 2019 (UTC)

Would I be able to usurp User:Comrades in six months' time?

Hello there Cyber. I'm reposting this because I didn't get a response last time. I hope you're all well now. But please take as much time as you need if need-be. I want to thank you for giving me six months to muddle over my name! As I have discovered better names than before. I just came here because I am wondering if it is possible to usurp Comrades as my username. As it is currently taken by someone who registered back in 2012. It's not my final decision. I am just wondering if I can. Thank you. The Duke 17:18, 20 May 2019 (UTC)

The Duke of Nonsense Yes. Come back to me one month before the time you wish to be renamed and ask me again.—CYBERPOWER (Chat) 22:53, 23 May 2019 (UTC)

Or you can leave a usurp notice on the German Wikipedia for that user's talk page and come back when ready to be renamed.—CYBERPOWER (Chat) 22:53, 23 May 2019 (UTC)

Adminstats

Hi, why is Cyberbot I updating adminstats several times a day? It used to be just once, soon after 04:30 (UTC). --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 19:35, 23 May 2019 (UTC)

I honestly don't know. It could just be a hiccup.—CYBERPOWER (Chat) 22:57, 23 May 2019 (UTC)

hello there

	hello there
	i know this may be strange but i am looking for penpals and cannot afford the penpal websites if you are interested sign up with me on jpay.com with the user number 1001070062 Xaricam (talk) 22:17, 23 May 2019 (UTC)

@Dhtwiki, Redrose64, and Ronhjones: This actually appears to be legitimate. Xaricam is communicating from prison.—CYBERPOWER (Chat) 22:50, 23 May 2019 (UTC)

I reverted a post to Village pump (miscellaneous) that seemed misplaced. Is that an appropriate place to post such messages? Dhtwiki (talk) 23:04, 23 May 2019 (UTC)

Dhtwiki Not really, no. But given that this user doesn't know where else to go, we should maybe help her by at least pointing her in the right direction, wherever here that may be?—CYBERPOWER (Chat) 23:06, 23 May 2019 (UTC)

I hope some such direction can be given, especially since this user seems unusually courteous for someone who is both incarcerated and disruptive (see User_talk:Dhtwiki#hello). Note that their user page, or some portion of it, is now flagged for speedy deletion. Dhtwiki (talk) 23:17, 23 May 2019 (UTC)

{{help me-helped}} What should we do here. I have no idea.—CYBERPOWER (Chat) 23:28, 23 May 2019 (UTC)

hi yes i am indeed locked up i have my sister post things online for me so please excuse the delay i just dont know where to turn its hard in here and so here i am please help me— Preceding unsigned comment added by Xaricam (talk • contribs) 23:32, 23 May 2019 (UTC)

@Xaricam: Well to start let's teach you how to indent and sign your posts. Use colons (":") to indent your text. Always indent one more than the person you are responding to. Sign your post by typing ~~~~ at the end.—CYBERPOWER (Chat) 23:32, 23 May 2019

like this ok, well ive been locked up for about 8 years im looking on here because i can access this site but i digress im dying in here without communication from the outside world i did not know what else to doXaricam (talk) 23:36, 23 May 2019 (UTC)

Not quite with the indenting, but you got the signing down. To indent properly, you need to start a new line break, count the number of colons I'm using and add one to the count and place at the start of your post. Observe the previous comments between you and me to see the pattern. :-)—CYBERPOWER (Chat) 23:43, 23 May 2019 (UTC)

i am most likely going to be deleted ill just have to make a new account if you would the web page www.jpay.com is for communicating and i would love to have the "company" well i hope to see you there?Xaricam (talk) 23:46, 23 May 2019 (UTC)

Unfortunately, I've got so much on my plate right now, that I would be bad company. However, you can become a contributor on Wikipedia and interact with the community. I feel that would be better than jpay.com.—CYBERPOWER (Chat) 23:49, 23 May 2019 (UTC)

well if you ever change your mind ill be there its not like a forum either its more email old school based have you ever heard of writeaprisoner.com i got the idea for this from looking that up on here, well its been nice while it lasted thank you so very much for your advice on editing i will take it and use itXaricam (talk) 23:53, 23 May 2019 (UTC)

@Xaricam: You are always free to edit here. You can start small by fighting vandalism here, or asking around at the WP:TEAHOUSE. You'll find the community is full of users willing to help new people out and help them integrate into the community. Just be aware that there are equally users here who can be assholes sometimes, but don't let it get you down. I have a feeling rather than seeking out penpals, that becoming a part of the Wikipedia community you may find a place you may like to edit regularly and make this free encyclopedia even better. :-)—CYBERPOWER (Chat) 23:58, 23 May 2019 (UTC)

I have marked the help request as solved. Despite WP:NOTFORUM I think I can handle this by encouraging actual wiki work and responding to questions on my talk page with WP:NOTFORUM in mind. That said, keeping the help request open for longer would probably really cost too much community time. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 10:20, 24 May 2019 (UTC)

I've been waiting a long time for this to happen. Xaricam posted similar messages to a few other user talk pages, including my own. Among their other edits are a certain amount of personal information, and removal of the aforementioned speedy deletion tags. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 13:19, 24 May 2019 (UTC)

Deleted AfD tag

Hi! First, the bot's working correctly. I did remove an AfD tag by reverting my own edit (it was one I had just placed). I also requested speedy closure of the discussion on the AfD page. The article was just written today (I'm not sure how it's already on the main site). I've already reached out to the author to explain what's needed to bring the article up to an encyclopedic level and I've given them a link to the preferred process for writing new articles. Next time (if I act too hastily), I'll leave the request on the AfD page and leave the template I put up alone. I just didn't want to discourage the author. Orville1974 (talk) 01:36, 25 May 2019 (UTC)

IABot queue stuck again?

I'm sorry to pester you again. It looks like the job queue is now stuck on 3785. If there's another place or mechanism to report/unstick the queue, please let me know --- this is an incredibly useful service, and I want you to feel unstressed. —hike395 (talk) 16:36, 25 May 2019 (UTC)

Cyrrilic letters

Hello. Your bot, InternetArchiveBot, running in Ukrainian Wikipedia, replaces cyrillic letters in URLs with their Percent-encoding analogues like here or here. All modern browsers handle URLs with cyrillic letters just as well as URLs with percent encoding. But URLs with percent encoding are much longer and less clear. They make a paragraph of source wiki-code, they are included in, absolutely unreadable, it is not clear what the link is about, and sometimes they can even break the page layout.

Please, set your bot to use cyrillic letters instead of percent-encoding.

Also, it should mark edits as minor, so that people having pages, which are edited by the bot, in their watchlists do not receive hundreds of e-mail notifications. --TohaomgTohaomg (talk) 17:25, 25 May 2019 (UTC)

IABot Bug on bnwiki

Hi. Please take look here. Between 16 april & today, bot added অকার্যকর সংযোগ (Dead link) 60 times in the same reference. I can see it started when v2.0beta14 came out. see also --আফতাবুজ্জামান (talk) 18:26, 25 May 2019 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Technical Barnstar
	For your technical efforts across the project. AhmadTalk 08:43, 26 May 2019 (UTC)

IABot Edit Summary not match number of reported dead links?

Edit

I imagine this is like the FAQ question "X does not match edit summary" but I thought I've noticed it a couple times over the past week. Is this any different? Am I misunderstanding what a reported dead link is? Thanks for any insight. Cheers! Elfabet (talk) 17:30, 28 May 2019 (UTC)