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Comment from WarriorCK9499

@WarriorCK9499: My apologies for not following the policy of English Wikipedia when editing the article for the South Indian movie Mersal. I have now realised where I made mistakes, and clearly understood the policy and guidelines of English Wikipedia. I promise to make sure that I keep the policy and guidelines of English Wikipedia from now on. WarriorCK9499 (talk) 19:56, 02 October 2017 (UTC)
@WarriorCK9499: Ok, I understand what I have done wrong with editing the release dates for Mersal(film). Sorry, I have only recently started to edit on Wikipedia, so I am slowly learning all the policies. My apologies for this. But I don't know what made you think it was me who removed all the messages on your talk page. I am sure I did not do that as I was able to clearly see where the changes were made and what was added. WarriorCK9499 (talk) 17:46, 03 October 2017 (UTC)
@WarriorCK9499: Sorry, I was actually meant to include in the previous message that I have an official reference from ATMUS Entertainment's Twitter page that Mersal(film) will be released on 17 October 2017 in the US. I don't know how I can show you the tweet. WarriorCK9499 (talk) 17:56, 03 October 2017 (UTC)
@WarriorCK9499: Ok, I understand that I have to add the reference at the end of the sentence. Sorry I was trying to figure out how to do this like all other references, but could not find out. That was why I added the reference separately to all the references already there. But the reference that I have included was a poster that was officially announced by ATMUS Entertainment, which holds the distribution rights for Mersal(film) in the US. So I guess we have to take it as an official announcement as it is made from their official Twitter page. Mersal's(film) Wiki page also confirms that ATMUS Entertainment holds the distribution rights for Mersal in the US with reference. WarriorCK9499 (talk) 12:34, 04 October 2017 (UTC)
@WarriorCK9499: Sorry, I am still waiting for your response, hopefully permission to include the date of the US release for Mersal(film) because there may be people wanting to know, and I feel it is better to update this on the wiki page before the film's release week begins. I understand that you have so much other work to focus on as well, but I will not know if you have seen my comment or not. So that is why I am posting another reminder. Hope you post a reply very soon. Thank you. WarriorCK9499 (talk) 22:24, 05 October 2017 (UTC)
@WarriorCK9499: Are you sure that the film is still being released in the US that date? The poster wasn't clear. Wasn't there some kerfuffle about the film being delayed due to tax issues? This was an article sent to me by Kailash29792. (Thanks, Kailash.) Cyphoidbomb (talk) 04:01, 6 October 2017 (UTC)
@WarriorCK9499: Yes, there are some tax issues affecting all Tamil films about to release in the near future. Until now, it is still not 100% clear whether Mersal(film) will release on Diwali (18 October 2017) as planned, but there has been another issue ongoing for Mersal(film), which was the title issue. There has been a case filed by another film producer couple of weeks ago accusing the Mersal team of stealing the title of their film 'Mersalaiyitten', which is the past tense word of the word 'Mersal'. The court hearing has been taking place for the past two weeks, and the final hearing took place today, and the Madras High Court in India ruled that the title for the film will remain the same, and so Mersal team have retained their film's title. The film was also certified after the court hearing as a U/A film according to Indian age categories. Although the film is still not 100% confirmed to be released on Diwali, all of these announcements made today definitely confirm that the film will be released on 18 October 2017. [1] [2] WarriorCK9499 (talk) 20:10, 06 October 2017 (UTC)
@WarriorCK9499: Just to add, I don't think there's any evidence that clearly proves Mersal(film) will be released on 17 October 2017 in the US other than the tweet by ATMUS Entertainment themselves on their official twitter page. I have added reference from the actual twitter page rather than just the poster's reference like I did last time. Hope this proves to you that Mersal(film) will be released on 17 October 2017 in the US. Thank you.[3] WarriorCK9499 (talk) 20:19, 06 October 2017 (UTC)
@WarriorCK9499: Hi there, just to let you know that the US ticket bookings for Mersal(film) has now opened. Bookings have also started in Europe, with bookings opening in a few theatres at Cineworld Cinemas in the UK, and also in Paris at Le Grand Rex. I kindly request that at least now would be the right time to add the US release date on the Wikipage of Mersal(film)? The tax issues are coming to an end as the President of Film Producers' Council in Tamil Nadu, India has had a meeting with the Chief Minister of Tamil Nadu today. Mersal(film) is confirmed to be hitting the screens on 18 October 2017 as planned. Even if the issue does not get solved before the release date, the film will still release, with issues only affecting some Cinemas in Tamil Nadu, India, but not cinemas in other countries, because it is the theatres in Tamil Nadu that are on strike and not theatres in other countries. So the issue will not affect theatres in other countries. Thank you. Waiting for your permission. [4] [5] [6] WarriorCK9499 (talk) 18:47, 09 October 2017 (UTC)
@WarriorCK9499: We typically don't use unverified Twitter accounts as references. What other sources mention the US release date? I haven't been able to find anything persuasive. Please note also that Wikipedia has no deadline, so although it may be frustrating, we are not in a rush to add this content until it can be properly sourced. Regards, Cyphoidbomb (talk) 02:13, 10 October 2017 (UTC)
@WarriorCK9499: Ok, I understand it is not a rush to add this content, my apologies again for bothering you too much with this. I was only trying to keep this page up to date as much as possible so that people who depend on information published on the wikipage know the full content of the film. I did not find any other sources other than the tweets I have shared with you. Just to add, may I get permission to add a name to the 'Cast' section of the wikipage for Mersal(film)? The director of Mersal(film), 'Atlee', has shared in an interview what one of the actors' name will be in the film. I just need your permission to add the name to the 'Cast' section. Thank you. [7] WarriorCK9499 Regards, WarriorCK9499 (talk) 19:45, 11 October 2017 (UTC)
@WarriorCK9499: So long as you can provide a reference for the cast addition, and so long as the reference comes from somewhere like a verified YouTube account so that we don't have to worry about copyright violations, sure. If you're not sure how to do it, send the information to me and I'll show you. Regards, Cyphoidbomb (talk) 03:53, 12 October 2017 (UTC)
@WarriorCK9499: Thank you, but the news was only published on Indian news articles. The video of the interview has not been officially released by the production team of the film or any other Indian news articles. So I can't send you a reference from a YouTube account. As the reference I shared with you was from an official news article, I thought that would be enough evidence. Sorry, is it not? WarriorCK9499 (talk) 21:37, 12 October 2017 (UTC)
@WarriorCK9499: Also to inform you that you were right not to expect a one day early release of Mersal(film) in the US. It was a Premiere Show, but they have now cancelled the Premiere Show due to possible piracy issues. WarriorCK9499 (talk) 01:08, 13 October 2017 (UTC)

References

  1. ^ "'Mersal' Title Retained".
  2. ^ "'Mersal' certified as U/A".
  3. ^ "'Mersal' US Release Confirmed by ATMUS Entertainment".
  4. ^ {{cite web|title=Mersal US Ticket Bookings|url=https://www.pragathi.com/movies/Mersal-Tamil-movie-in-US-showtimes-tickets-schedules/
  5. ^ "Mersal Bookings at Cineworld Cinemas UK".
  6. ^ "Mersal Tax Issue Will Come To An End".
  7. ^ "Mersal Bearded Vijay name 'Thalapathy'".

help needed

Hello administration,l need from you i.e I have to learn how to find webpage url value to add webpage as external link on Wikipedia reference so please help me to get way how to know webpage value Thank you Sri Harsha Malempati (talk) 19:47, 13 October 2017 (UTC)

@Sri Harsha Malempati: I'm sorry, but I don't know what you are asking me to do. If you are asking me to help you add an external link or a reference, you'd have to tell me what article you're working on and you'd have to send me the URL. I'd also need to know what content you are trying to support. Regards, Cyphoidbomb (talk) 04:35, 14 October 2017 (UTC)

How to add external link how to find URL particular webpage Where will find URL. Sri Harsha Malempati (talk) 12:03, 14 October 2017 (UTC)

Ramya Krishnan

Hello, I was about to implement this edit, but this edit by a user made be hesitate. Krishnan is a the name of Ramya's father. Hence shouldn't be referred to as Ramya throughout the article ? Correct me if I am wrong. 86.97.129.224 (talk) 13:44, 14 October 2017 (UTC)

Hi there, I notice that at the top of the article someone's flagged it to indicate that Krishnan is a patronym. In those cases, yes, we would refer to the subject by their first name, and WP:SURNAME would not apply. I've made the changes. If I've missed any, feel free to change. Regards, Cyphoidbomb (talk) 14:34, 14 October 2017 (UTC)

User: Socialmediasphere

Hi can you please check this user's contributions as they seem problematic. They seem to be promoting an actress and actor and may also be connected to lifetime entertainment. They have created articles on an actor and actress which is ok but then they have boosted their billing positions in existing articles and created film and tv articles that misrepresent the correct billing. For example Freshwater (film) was created with the claim that Donnabella had a starring role but rotten tomatoes does not have her in the first5 and the official DVD has her at 8 and from Youtube her character is killed early on. I've reverted a number of their edits, thanks Atlantic306 (talk) 18:09, 15 October 2017 (UTC)

Hi Atlantic306, based on the name, I think I might wind up indeffing on username violation. There is a company by that name based in West Hollywood, CA. I see a number of intersections with IP 24.24.155.95, which geolocates roughly to Sherman Oaks, CA, which apparently is about 8 1/2 miles apart. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 19:40, 15 October 2017 (UTC)
Thanks, their activity is worrying Atlantic306 (talk) 01:01, 16 October 2017 (UTC)

Ishqbaaaz's Award Section

Hi user:Cyphoidbomb,

In Ishqbaaaz article, how to add an award section?

Previously, I added award section on Ishqbaaaz. But you removed. You said that the section contents meets with it own network/channel. Now the question is "How to fix it?" and "How to legally add the award section?"

Thank You, Siddiq Sazzad (talk) 14:51, 16 October 2017 (UTC)

Hi Siddiqsazzad001 If the series has won awards from external mainstream award entities, you can add them the same way (although we need references). The problem with that award, is that it's issued by its own network. It's like if Coca-Cola had an award ceremony to honor the best sodas, and sure enough, Coca-Cola is #1 and Sprite wins Best Lemon-Lime. Does that make sense? Maybe another analogy is if your mum had an award ceremony and you won "Handsomest Kid in the World" every year. Feels good, but maybe our mum is biased, you know?   Cyphoidbomb (talk) 15:03, 16 October 2017 (UTC)

Hi Cyphoidbomb what do you mean by inappropriate for an encyclopedia? All added links were relevant to the topic. It would be great if you help me to understand what guidelines I've not followed to avoid future mistakes.Mrugeshsingh (talk) 05:33, 18 October 2017 (UTC)

Help: Secret Superstar

Hi! How are you? I want to let you know that some anonymous users are editing the page, and most of the edits are wrong. I don't know which is the last stable version of the page, and it if I would restore someone will again edit it. I also have made a WP:RFP for the page but got no response. Some reviews for the film have been published, if the page could be protected by those users so the trusted users can easily add the reviews. Please help, Thanks! M. Billoo 19:23, 17 October 2017 (UTC)

Hi M.Billoo2000 I don't know exactly that would be expected here. There's not a whole lot of content at this article, and it's unclear what vandalism or false information or whatever exists here that any admin should do anything about it. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 03:51, 18 October 2017 (UTC)
Is there any trusted user you know? Maybe Mr. Smart LION could help too if he is available. Or does the article need to be re-written? Thanks! M. Billoo 10:07, 18 October 2017 (UTC)
I can't stop someone from vandalizing the article or adding wrong information to it. I can simply tell you that you can again go to WP:RFP and briefly tell why you want to protect the page. That's the best place where users can ask to protect articles if some users are continuously vandalizing them. Mr. Smart LION 13:15, 18 October 2017 (UTC)

How to review a photo?

Hi Cyphoidbomb,

How to review a common media photo? Where I will find the photo reviewers user? Specially for Pinterest photo. Please reply me.

Thank You, Siddiq Sazzad (talk) 15:48, 21 October 2017 (UTC)

@Siddiqsazzad001: I don't understand what you're asking, sorry. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 15:50, 21 October 2017 (UTC)

@user:Cyphoidbomb How to review a photo?

Siddiq Sazzad (talk) 16:05, 21 October 2017 (UTC)

Storkismist

Actually, I'm a storkismist. Scientific storkism] Jim1138 (talk) 03:22, 20 October 2017 (UTC)

@Jim1138: Call me a confused-ist. Did I mischaracterize you somewhere, or is this comment misplaced? :) Cyphoidbomb (talk) 04:00, 20 October 2017 (UTC)
I guess a poor attempt to be funny referring to "their", "a", "her" child. Sorry. Jim1138 (talk) 04:02, 20 October 2017 (UTC)
@Jim1138: Ha! My failure was not reading the rationalwiki article.   Sorry by the way for the needless ping you received on my reversion. I probably should have clicked Edit to revert instead. I understand the "a child" compromise you made but I think it's absurd the IP doesn't understand that +/- sex is not the only way people have been reproducing over the last, oh, four decades? If two heterosexuals opted for egg fertilization, would we not acknowledge the man because his sperm is infeasible? Augh... Anyway, for a storkist, I suppose it's nobody's child, so let's remove all possessive words! Cyphoidbomb (talk) 04:18, 20 October 2017 (UTC)
Yep. Sort of trying to avoid an edit war. I reverted another "their child" to "a child" edit. A step further: the people I know who adopt a child refer to them as "my son" or "my daughter". If they didn't I would be greatly worried. Though, it might eventually become "that child". I think I was a "that child" even though I wasn't adopted.   I get pinged all the time by the disgruntled, so it's a relief when I am pinged by a 'friendly'. Cheers Jim1138 (talk) 06:03, 20 October 2017 (UTC)

Our delivery-stork-denialist is back Sara Gilbert‎ (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) & Linda Perry‎ (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) different IP. I reverted and warned. On my watch-list now. Cheers Jim1138 (talk) 08:22, 21 October 2017 (UTC)

@Jim1138: I'm probably going to bow out of this short-lived debate. I don't care enough to waste my time educating this person beyond what I've done on their talk page. If you want to restore your compromise edit, I won't object. Regards, Cyphoidbomb (talk) 15:52, 21 October 2017 (UTC)
Thanks for that message on the IP's talk page. Well written! The IP Redid Gilbert, but not Perry after your message. Maybe got your message, or maybe trolling. I'm more amused by the whole thing. I'll request PP if it happens again. Cheers Jim1138 (talk) 18:43, 21 October 2017 (UTC)
@Jim1138: Thanks man. Yeah, PP would be wise if it continues. I posted a note at the LGBT WikiProject to invite people to discuss if they were interested. Seemed like the smart move, but I later realized that it could be construed as canvass-y, so I removed it. Regards, Cyphoidbomb (talk) 18:46, 21 October 2017 (UTC)
Maybe an RfC instead of LGBT WikiProject? Jim1138 (talk) 20:32, 21 October 2017 (UTC)
@Jim1138: Seems like a big to-do to combat ignorance. I suppose I could have asked if there are any previous discussions on the matter, as that would make consensus rather clear, assuming this had been discussed before. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 20:45, 21 October 2017 (UTC)
RfPP requested. Ignorance or bigotry? Which is not too dissimilar. Jim1138 (talk) 03:53, 22 October 2017 (UTC)

I've seen you give at least a few editors a hard time and imply or claim they're "paid editors" based on the fact that there is commonality of the subject matter between articles they've edited. I notice you create and edit a lot of Indian articles. Are you a paid editor? Or otherwise compensated? Do you have a COI problem? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.234.100.169 (talk) 04:51, 22 October 2017 (UTC)

{{tps}} Above looks like User:Gaditano23 or a related sockdrawer. DMacks (talk) 05:05, 22 October 2017 (UTC)
Hey IP editor, are you evading an active sanction? To answer your questions (which I'm only doing to humor myself) I am not a paid editor nor do I receive any perquisites of any kind for my editing, so I don't quite understand what COI problem you think I would have. I edit Indian articles because it's a problematic area of the encyclopedia that is full of corrupt editors who use our pages to promote all sorts of stuff, from films to actors to fly-by-night blogs, and there aren't many solid, experienced editors who are willing to patrol these pages. Yes, there are lots of squirrely paid editors out there, and yes it is something that my experience has made me sensitive to. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 05:31, 22 October 2017 (UTC)

FYI

ANI on Linda Perry‎ and Sara Gilbert Jim1138 (talk) 01:10, 23 October 2017 (UTC)

@Jim1138: Wow, I hadn't seen this. Thanks for mentioning it in the ANI. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 01:47, 23 October 2017 (UTC)

Cast Section of Naamkarann

Hi User:Cyphoidbomb,

You made a little mistake. You added guest star members in main cast. Actually it is not you fault. First mistake has done by Anonymous User. Now I fixed that problem. Please don't ever trust Anonymous Users.

Thanks, Siddiq Sazzad (talk) 13:31, 23 October 2017 (UTC)

@Siddiqsazzad001: Though I appreciate the edification about the cast reorganisation, we can't by default assume that all anonymous users are acting in bad faith. WP:AGF Cyphoidbomb (talk) 14:04, 23 October 2017 (UTC)

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Mecj2 and persistent WP:ACCESS and other violations

We've contacted Oshwah about this, but he seems to be very busy these days. IJBall and myself could use your input. This user has a plethora of warnings on their talk page and refuses to discuss and instead tries to silently stonewall their changes. I've reported this user either two or three times now to AIV and admins have rejected the report each time. I think an indefinite block is warranted, personally, but I'd be fine with any type of block if a block were to be placed. In any case, we're kind of at a loss on what to do now since admins don't seem to be seeing their disruptiveness. Thanks. Amaury (talk | contribs) 20:12, 25 October 2017 (UTC)

Hi Amaury, IJBall! Sorry if I didn't respond to your request for help on my talk page in a timely manner - life has kept me busy lately, but things have slowed down some (at least for the time being... haha). It looks like Mecj2 is blocked for 42 days for repeatedly adding unreferenced content to articles. What is the exact issue in regards to WP:ACCESS that concerns you? ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 20:54, 25 October 2017 (UTC)
@Oshwah: Yamaguchi先生 was kind enough to take action and block. Amaury (talk | contribs) 20:57, 25 October 2017 (UTC)
@Oshwah: This ends up being complicated, but the jist of it is the use of 'rowspan' in the middle or on the right-side of tables causes readability issues for our text-to-speech readership. (This is mentioned, but only in passing unfortunately, at WP:DTT...) As a result, this is basically a WP:ACCESS issue and is effectively a violation of Wikipedia's Non-discrimination policy when it is willfully ignored. The specific issue in the case of Mecj2 is that they were warned about this issue repeatedly, and then basically crossed into Edit warring by repeatedly trying to violate these WP:ACCESS fixes even after having been warned about it. Oh, and WP:Communication is required. Basically, this editor has been given more than enough chances to improve their behavior, and either didn't on WP:CIR grounds, or because they were deliberately trolling (i.e. WP:ROPE). --IJBall (contribstalk) 21:09, 25 October 2017 (UTC)
@Amaury and IJBall: I don't know how I missed this on my talk page, but I didn't see this until today. Sorry for my inactivity, but happy that it was resolved. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 04:34, 27 October 2017 (UTC)

A request

Hi, Category:201x television seasons and Category:201x American television seasons continue to be problematic. Category:2018 American television seasons was deleted only two days ago but it's already been recreated by an editor who clearly didn't read the inclusion criteria. I've had to empty this and Category:2018 television seasons, which the same editor has also recreated, several times. To avoid this happening next year, would it be possible to create protect Category:2019 television seasons and Category:2019 American television seasons until 1 January 2019? This would be greatly appreciated. --AussieLegend () 04:36, 28 October 2017 (UTC)

Just adding that I've emptied Category:2018 television seasons and Category:2018 American television seasons and nominated them for deletion but, sadly, I fully expect them to be recreated before 2018. --AussieLegend () 04:47, 28 October 2017 (UTC)

@AussieLegend: Nominated cats deleted, 2019 cats protected until 1 Jan 2019. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 05:03, 28 October 2017 (UTC)
Awesome. Thanks. --AussieLegend () 05:09, 28 October 2017 (UTC)
  • Request for Undeletion Cyphoidbomb, thank you for all your work as an administrator. You recently deleted Category:2019 television seasons and Category:2019 American television seasons under the speedy criteria WP:C1, unpopulated categories. That policy allows for speedy deletion if "to categories that have been unpopulated for at least seven days" while the categories had approximately 12 and 2 articles a few hours ago. AussieLegend and I are having a substantive conversation about the category here but my concern here is the procedural approach. This is more than just a pedantic issue: categories deleted with C1 can be recreated by any editor at any time without discussion as soon articles appear which explains why these categories keep getting recreated over and over.
Would you be willing to undelete the two categories based on WP:C1? RevelationDirect (talk) 10:49, 28 October 2017 (UTC)
These categories should never have been created. They've each been deleted several times this year because they can't be populated until 2018, so they serve no purpose until then. --AussieLegend () 12:55, 28 October 2017 (UTC)
That's a valid perspective for a WP:CFD discussion and, indeed, that viewpoint might very well prevail there. The question here is much more narrow though: should categories that are not empty be deleted without discussion using a tool for deleting empty categories? RevelationDirect (talk) 14:06, 28 October 2017 (UTC)
@RevelationDirect: They were empty when I deleted them. I'm also unclear on how we're to know how long a cat has been vacant, as the category data typically comes from individual articles, when you add the [[Category:____]] to the bottom of the page. And boy, seven days doesn't seem very speedy at all. But your points are noted and I could have looked a bit deeper, so I apologise about that. However, this is an ongoing issue, as WT:TV seems to dislike future cats. @AussieLegend: how does the community feel about "Upcoming" cats like "Upcoming 2018 TV series"? I see lots of 2018 films labeled as Upcoming films and 2018 films. Doesn't seem like the film community has a problem with the future labels. Maybe it's different since films have to demonstrate filming has begun, whereas TV doesn't usually have the long ramp-up? (Except for animation, maybe?) Cyphoidbomb (talk) 15:16, 28 October 2017 (UTC)
The question here is much more narrow though: should categories that are not empty be deleted without discussion using a tool for deleting empty categories? - The categories were empty when they were deleted.
how does the community feel about "Upcoming" cats like "Upcoming 2018 TV series"? I see lots of 2018 films (etc) - I think I raised it earlier this year but can't remember the outcome. I think it would actually be against the spirit of WP:TVUPCOMING. The other issue here is that once the seasons begin airing, typically in September/October, the seasons are no longer upcoming but they still haven't aired episodes in the year following the year in which they start airing. --AussieLegend () 15:41, 28 October 2017 (UTC)
I guess I just assumed admins had some magic tool that said how long the category had been empty! My reading of WP:C1 has always been it's for abandoned categories that aren't being used for at least a week rather than categories whose use is controversial and whose contents were recently emptied. Over on my talk page, I just proposed a couple compromises and hopefully one of those will work. RevelationDirect (talk) 16:48, 28 October 2017 (UTC)

User GOOD morning's latest sock

A few weeks ago he was editing as Ason271 which you blocked on October 7th. He's back with a new impersonation account - Ason20 in the same areas. Would you mind reviewing and blocking if warranted? Thanks. Ravensfire (talk) 20:07, 31 October 2017 (UTC)

@Ravensfire: Handled. Thanks for the heads-up. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 01:21, 1 November 2017 (UTC)

User:Cyphoidbomb Mini...

... claims to be an admin. Nothing to do with you, I presume? I've blocked it. Bishonen | talk 19:19, 5 November 2017 (UTC).

@Bishonen: I was just about to post a section about the doppelganger account here and you beat me to it by mere seconds! :P Jiten talk contribs 19:26, 5 November 2017 (UTC)
Thanks, Jiten D. I think the new account had made a partial copy of Teh C-Bomberman's userpage also (which I have blanked), apparently in the hope that the "verify" link would verify them being an admin. (Ha, yeah.) Funnily enough I blocked another impersonation attempt today, see User talk:Yhuiio. A different technique, but no better. That userpage, with a claim to be an alternative account of User:Bonadea, has been deleted. I wonder if the trolls really think these clumsy attempts will ever work? Bishonen | talk 21:23, 5 November 2017 (UTC).
@Bishonen and Jiten D: Thanks for the eagle-eyes! Impostor indeed. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 04:35, 6 November 2017 (UTC)

Undoing Edits Without Having to Erase and Type

How do I undo bad edits by returning them to initial edits without erasing or typing all over again? Fghsfijgig (talk) 19:36, 8 November 2017 (UTC)

@Fghsfijgig: It depends on what you mean by "bad edits". If you're talking about the difference of opinion you have with that IP editor about what content should appear in various Family Guy articles, I think opening discussion with them is the way to go. For other edits, you can revert changes via the article's history, but note that excessive undos may constitute edit-warring, and if you make three reversions of basically the same material within 24 hours, that runs afoul of our three revert rule. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 02:47, 9 November 2017 (UTC)

Response on Sloopy move of Bhaurao Karhade

Thank you very much for your response, its my mistake that i did not discussed it on talk page, first of all i want to clear one thing that no one is paying me to do this, Firstly i have created Wikipedia page of Director Bhaurao Karhade, as per his recent updates it looks that he decided to use his full name everywhere from now Ref - [1],[2] so as i told that i created this article firstly, so its my responsibility to update Wikipedia articles Name accordingly, so i accept my mistake that i did not discussed it before, but i want to declare that i did not created it against money, and according to me changing the persons name does not indicate that its marketing or something, and I know very well that Wikipedia is not marketing platform. wikibot 18:49, 11 November 2017 (UTC)

References

  1. ^ "Glam Gold". {{cite web}}: Cite has empty unknown parameter: |dead-url= (help)
  2. ^ "Just Marathi". {{cite web}}: Cite has empty unknown parameter: |dead-url= (help)
@Shrinivaskulkarni1388: Intriguing that you'd acknowledge it a mistake that you didn't discuss it on the talk page, and then you went ahead and moved the article a second time without discussion. I don't get what that's about. That said, it looks like the full name comes up more often in Google searches, so I don't plan to oppose your move. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 20:39, 11 November 2017 (UTC)

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Regarding standard offer

Variations to standard offer:

The six-month threshold can be adjustable under special circumstances. If an editor shows an unusually good insight into the circumstances that led to the block, and sets out a credible proposal for how they will deal with those issues in future, then a return might be considered sooner.

On the other hand, if the indefinitely blocked/banned user continues to be especially disruptive, or has engaged in particularly serious misconduct, then some administrators may become unwilling to consider a return for a much longer time or, quite possibly, ever.

Banned users seeking a return are well-advised to make significant and useful contributions to other WMF projects prior to requesting a return to English Wikipedia per this 'offer'. Many unban requests have been declined due to the banned user simply waiting the six months out, without making any contributions to other projects.

I would like to use a committed identity..so that that you can unban me and allow me to edit wikipedia from January 2018.

I would like to attach my email ID, PAN CARD, SOCIAL SECURITY NUMBER, AADHAR CARD, PASSPORT NUMER to user padmalakshmisx.

I am here to expand lot of articles on south cinema. I am not here to disrupt them. I have lot of information on this that other editors lack. most of these articles are edited by amateurs. I am the only experienced editor. Please give opportunity to edit.

I will not use the following in my edits:

  • 1. superhit
  • 2. positive reviews
  • 3. blockbuster
  • 4. cherry picking
  • 5. POV pushing
  • 6. Edit warring

Please dont block this username, I wish to use this to communicate with administrators such as you.

Please discuss my issue as special case with arbitration committee... Notforediting (talk) 09:12, 10 November 2017 (UTC)

@Notforediting: I told you 11 months ago what your remedy was, i.e. the standard offer, and I also said "if you can't stay away from editing Wikipedia for six months, the clock is just going to keep resetting". Seven weeks later, we discover six new accounts that you created. So... What does that tell us about you? That you have oodles of self control? That you are a man of your word?
Your proposal above is meaningless. You're not special, and your case is not special. Stay away for six months, and then you can request an unblock per the standard offer and maybe a sympathetic administrator will consider unblocking you. But your plea to shorten the standard offer duration on the basis that "most of these articles are edited by amateurs. I am the only experienced editor" is simply obnoxious. The encyclopedia does just fine without your contributions, since much of what you submit, with the various typos, promotional language, poor references, etc. require lots of cleanup anyway. Here, let's take a look at some of your recent edits I've picked at random:
  • These edits you made at Ridhima Tiwari. You forgot to capitalise Bollywood. Twice. We learn in elementary level English that we capitalise proper nouns. You're using cookie-cutter blog moviegalleri.net as a reference. Why? Are you still unfamiliar with our reliable sourcing guidelines? Why are you forcing columns in the reference section with {{reflist|2}}? The 2 switch has been deprecated for years. Haven't you read the documentation on {{reflist}}?
  • These edits were made at Vunnadhi Okate Zindagi. [[Telugu cinema|Telugu language]] should be [[Telugu language|Telugu-language]] because the language is the primary topic when talking about a language. Ah, and yet again, you attempt to summarise the entire critical response of the film as positive by pointing to a 3 star review. That's at least two levels of bad decision making. 1) Because a 3 star review is average. This is a moot point though, as: 2) We don't use individual reviews to summarise the entirety of critical response. I've told you this before, so why do you keep doing it? We wait for reliable sources to explicitly describe the response as ____ and then we quote that reliable source. That's basic film article editing. What you are doing is unambiguously promotional and that's why we don't want you doing it here.
So, we're still seeing lots of rookie mistakes from "the only experienced editor." The additional problem I have with your proposal above, is that you're trying to avoid any demonstration of self-control, (i.e. staying away from Wikipedia for 6 months.) You want us to reward you, but you're showing us nothing in return. And I'll be frank, I'm of the opinion that you are being paid to edit, which you've never copped to, but are required to do per WP:PAID. It's really the only answer for why you're so prolific, are so geared to use promotional language, and why you are incapable of staying away. A person who edits for the love of academia wouldn't weigh articles with biased language and poor references, you see. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 15:45, 13 November 2017 (UTC)
My key board is not working properly, excuse me if you find typo or grammar errors here:
Your idea Telugu language</nowiki> should be [[Telugu language|Telugu-language]] is not rookie mistake or incompetency or vandalism or disruptive editing. It is an intelligent edit in that a layman is automatically redirected to the cinema of the Telugu language, even though you talk about Telugu language, here the important aspect is cinema and not the language. Because that particular layman is not interested in learning the Telugu language.
I already told you that I will come to your point of view, and correct those silly issues you have been citing, if you allow me to edit. I know my competency in creating new articles which most of those amateur editors lack. I am the only one who is interested in creating new articles such as Cinematographer K. S. Prasad, Indian Film Selections and Winners at Cannes Film Festival, Since most of the editors are amateur and incompetent to create these articles, what I look forward from you is, You create these articles on my behalf then I will stay away for 12 months, not 6 months.
And also while reverting my editing as sock puppetry your response is "Last Stable Version" so the last stable version according to Wikipedia's guidelines is the one which is full of amateur IP edits, lack of references, and me fixing bare URLs and adding additional references is unstable, and expanding updated filmography with credible information is unstable. Ridiculously you tend to over look blunders in those IP edits, you dont even have time to lock those IP editors for wasting your time and disrupting wikipedia. On the other hand, You are not allowing someone like me who loves editing wikipedia with passion and focus. Unfortunately you still allow disruptive edits in Telugu cinema by amateur IP addresses who spoil the grammar, content, references, and cohesion of the article with their whims, that doesn't come under unstbale edits in your so called "WIKIPEDIA LAW". You are so incompetent to question them.
I will give you an example, Some idiot is adding funny statements such as "S. S. Rajamouli is the greatest director" or "Telugu cinema is the biggest among all film industries in India second is Hindi cinema" and in the process disrupting the quality and credibility of wikipedi. But according to your silly wikipedia law these edits are stable. But Credible editors like me just because we are using different usernames are considered a threat wikipedia. I dont have problem waiting for 6 months, but if you fail to control the tsunami of those IP edits in these six months, I will come in new Avatar to protect my Wikipedia. Notforediting (talk) 18:33, 13 November 2017 (UTC)
(talk page stalker) Talk about empty threats, am I right? TJH2018talk 18:39, 13 November 2017 (UTC)
(talk page watcher)--It's interesting as to why this acc. is still not blocked?! No alt. acc.(s) are ever allowed, even for purposes of communication(s) about un-block offers.Winged Blades Godric 14:02, 15 November 2017 (UTC)
Not surprisingly, he's continued his sockpuppetry horseshit. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 03:25, 17 November 2017 (UTC)

On this day, nine years ago...

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List of nicknames of Presidents of the United States

Please check out Steve Shives Youtube page 5 things that you just can't believe for the week. The last one since the election is always "THe furthor misadventures of Lord Dampnut" — Preceding unsigned comment added by 135.84.167.2 (talk) 18:40, 28 November 2017 (UTC)

I don't know what I'm supposed to do with this information. Per the lead sentence, the threshold for inclusion of a nickname at List of nicknames of Presidents of the United States is that the nickname was "in common usage at the time they were in office or shortly thereafter." Common usage doesn't mean commonly used by one dude, it presumably means that it was in wide usage by members of the press, historians, things like that. Regards, Cyphoidbomb (talk) 03:47, 29 November 2017 (UTC)

Hi

How's it going Cyphoidbomb :) I saw something interesting that I would like to show you - [1]. Also sharing an interesting article from Mint. Let There Be Sunshine (talk) 08:03, 28 November 2017 (UTC)

Hi Let There Be Sunshine, thanks for the user page tip. The Mint article was very interesting. Everyone who edits Indian film articles should be forced to read it.   Were you aware that Box Office India discontinued their box office column for a while after getting sick of the corruption? Regards, Cyphoidbomb (talk) 15:35, 28 November 2017 (UTC)
I did noticed TOI is missing BO column, but didn't knew the reason was this. Let There Be Sunshine (talk) 08:00, 29 November 2017 (UTC)
@Let There Be Sunshine: That was a few years ago. I assume they've reversed their position, since they are active in the reporting of film finances. Regards, Cyphoidbomb (talk) 14:17, 29 November 2017 (UTC)

Infobox conversions

Hi. I noticed you said the ICTF consensus is no conversions in the infobox. I find this a somewhat odd decision, since mentioning the USD amount would make more sense (especially for non-Indian readers). I'd like to understand the rationale behind this consensus. Could you maybe post a link to ICTF's consensus regarding this? Maestro2016 (talk) 02:47, 3 December 2017 (UTC)

The rationale[2] for the removal of INRConvert was threefold: 1) Clutter, 2) problems with inflation adjustments over time, 3) The US dollar is not the only currency on Earth, and the English Wikipedia is not intended to be US-centric. Though the discussions were for the use of the template, the spirit of the concerns, clutter and US-centrism, remain even with manual calculations. Infoboxes in general are not intended to replace a properly-written box office section. There wouldn't be anything inherently problematic in listing a figure in a film's native currency in the infobox, to expand in the box office section with relevant conversions. After all, someone in France isn't necessarily going to understand a US dollar any more than they will a rupee. You are always welcome to seek out a new consensus if you wish. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 17:42, 3 December 2017 (UTC)

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COI on Indian Music Industry

Hey, look at the article history. There's a new user, Siddhant2709, that appears to have a strong COI and has made some troubling edits and edit summary. I left a pretty pointed warning on their talk page that hopefully will get them in the right direction, but I think it may bear some admin watching. I think there will be enough editorial eyes on it (I'm posting on the Indian noticeboard next), so please stay uninvolved as an editor if you can! Appreciate it. Ravensfire (talk) 05:39, 4 December 2017 (UTC)

@Ravensfire: It looks like Yunshui got them for a terms of service violation. Not sure if that was 100% valid, since they did disclose their employer in an edit summary. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 16:32, 4 December 2017 (UTC)
Yeah, I saw that. That's a good start (to me at least) and it's probably enough for WP:PAID disclosure, but I think for edit summaries it's supposed to be for each edit, not just the one, so the talk page is generally easier for disclosure. I doubt they knew the rules around COI / Paid editing, so the block may come as a surprise to them. They left me a note on my talk page that was a bit encouraging, so I'm going to leave them another message and hopefully they can convince Yunshui that they will follow the COI / PAID guidelines. Ravensfire (talk) 16:38, 4 December 2017 (UTC)
@Ravensfire: I've followed up with Yunshui to see what he thinks. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 16:40, 4 December 2017 (UTC)

Regarding Ishqbaaz page

Please need your help, see Ishqbaaaz page. I don't want to get into edit war. Thank You. JayB91 (talk) 17:25, 4 December 2017 (UTC)

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Tamara787 socks

It looks like he's back, again. You might want to take a look at his SPI page (I've added User:Roverisk122). LightandDark2000 (talk) 00:57, 10 December 2017 (UTC)

Re: Problematic interpretive content

Maybe I sounded a little annoyed, but it wasn't my intention. I'm sorry. I didn't take the remove of that part as personal, I just said it wasn't from me and that nobody reviewing the article previously had find a problem with it. I also took the opportunity to invite you to review the grammar, since I may commit some mistakes for still not having English at its most proficient level, and I don't have enough time or even patience to improve every bit, as the article is getting bigger, many of its kind seem to be kinda abandoned recently, and I'm just one person, so any help is welcome (I was actually hoping for someone to appear pointing out something wrong, 'cause I need help on reviewing). By the way, the problem there is not about grammar, as I can see, but concerning Wikipedia's policies. I'm kinda outdated about that and also don't have time to read the whole stuff again.

I purpose a partnership: review the whole article carefully and tell me about everything that's wrong concerning the policies or even grammar, and I will seek to provide sources for everything necessary.

And, please, don't threaten anonymous users saying the page is close to be protected, as you did here. I still know about the rules and remember this, although I'm obviously a veteran. I have seen many administrators committing that mistake. I know many anonymous users are vandals, but you need to have patience. And before you suggest, no, I don't want to create an account, as my only desire is to improve that single article. Nothing else, no benefits, since I prefer to not come back. 200.232.190.111 (talk) 03:23, 10 December 2017 (UTC)

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Could you help determine if some sources are reliable?

Hi! I noticed some sources, and I wasn't sure if they were reliable. Since I thought that you probably have much more expertise in this field than I do, I wanted to ask if you could help me with this issue. Here's the relevant discussion: Talk:List of Lego Ninjago: Masters of Spinjitzu episodes#New sources found: 12/13/17 UTC

If you could help me with this, that would be very useful!

Thanks!

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PROD

Just replying re: this. No problem with contesting it, but PRODs are a relatively normal way we handle UPE cleanup when G5 wouldn't be appropriate, even if it slipped through the cracks when initially discovered. I've sent it to AfD as a TOU violation, but the notability question doesn't matter at all here in my view. TonyBallioni (talk) 14:53, 17 December 2017 (UTC)

Hi TonyBallioni, what's UPE? I've never heard that one. Though I don't have an issue sticking it to sock operators when they violate our policies, I think that needs to be done in a timely fashion, lest our readership suffer instead of the sock jobbers. Regards, Cyphoidbomb (talk) 15:19, 17 December 2017 (UTC)
Undeclared paid editing in violation of the foundation terms of use: sorry for the abreviation. I work a lot in that world, so I make the mistake of thinking everyone knows the WikiSpeak there (something I should avoid in the future). There is pretty strong evidence on that article it was created for pay to promote the subject (which is now cancelled), but there are also other reasons to delete it in terms of deterring the behavior in the future, some of which I don't want to get into because of OUTING concerns. TonyBallioni (talk) 15:27, 17 December 2017 (UTC)

Vijay article changes

I made changes to the article removed fan stuff any more changes?? it looks neutral now--Starunique (talk) 11:03, 18 December 2017 (UTC)

Regarding Director SUKUMAR's birth date..

I'm working at Director SUKUMAR's office. His date of year is 1971, please correct with it.. Pavan kumar (sukumar blood fan) (talk) 13:17, 21 December 2017 (UTC)

@Pavan kumar (sukumar blood fan): When you can provide a reliable published source that confirms this information, then we can change it. Does he have a Verified Twitter account? He could tweet his correct birthdate and that might be sufficient. Or a Verified Facebook page? You see, the problems is that while you may personally know what his birthdate is, all content must be verifiable. Since nobody can go to a library and research your brain, we don't use personal knowledge as references. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 18:21, 21 December 2017 (UTC)

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Thank you Marnette! Best to you this Christmas! Cyphoidbomb (talk) 00:41, 24 December 2017 (UTC)

You are welcome and thank you as well. Best wishes for your 2018!! MarnetteD|Talk 00:43, 24 December 2017 (UTC)

merry christmas

wishing you a merry christmas and a joyful new year. :) :) Starunique (talk) 13:07, 24 December 2017 (UTC)

@Starunique: Thank you. Merry Christmas to you as well. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 16:02, 24 December 2017 (UTC)

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@GSS-1987: Thanks for your kind note, Best to you this Christmas and into the new year. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 00:27, 25 December 2017 (UTC)

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Amaury (talk | contribs) 08:22, 25 December 2017 (UTC)

Merry Christmas, Amaury! Thanks for all your strong editing this year! Cyphoidbomb (talk) 16:57, 25 December 2017 (UTC)

Jannat Zubair Rahmani

Remove Sequrity Bibhuaggarawal29 (talk) 07:01, 27 December 2017 (UTC)

@Bibhuaggarawal29: No. 1) You didn't say please. But 2) you people are creating a mess with that article and the completely unnecessary duplicate articles that @Kanakaggarawal29: has been creating and he's going to need to start responding to my queries on his talk page. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 07:14, 27 December 2017 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

  The Tireless Contributor Barnstar
For all the thankless edits you have been performing here while facing hostility. Thanks for everything you have been doing for WP. Happy Holidays! Yashthepunisher (talk) 12:05, 27 December 2017 (UTC)
Thank you Yash! Happy holidays and a Happy New Year to you. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 16:25, 27 December 2017 (UTC)

doubt about your last edit in actor vijay article

vijay appeared in a short commercial video about herova? zerova? as far as i know it was just an television advertisement about educational awareness will that come under his philanthropy work section or some other section Starunique (talk) 19:54, 28 December 2017 (UTC)

@Starunique: I'm not sure what you're trying to express. In your edit, you removed details that seem important, i.e. the title of the short film, as well as the purpose of the film, which was to discourage kids from dropping out of school. What remained was the vague sentence "In May 2008, Vijay appeared in a short commercial video about educational awareness." What is "educational awareness"? Anyway, you didn't provide a reason for removing the content you removed, and in my estimation, the removal was actually detrimental to reading comprehension, so I restored it. We write about things, we try to cover the Five Ws. Removing facts doesn't seem to help this process. Anyway, I'm not sure what "doubt" you're trying to express. Regards, Cyphoidbomb (talk) 03:50, 29 December 2017 (UTC)

I am just asking that what people does in television advertisement will it come under philanthropy or the advertisement section nothing else Starunique (talk) 09:10, 29 December 2017 (UTC)

@Starunique: If he's trying to do something socially helpful, that sounds more like philanthropy to me. Not sure how it would be considered an advertisement. There was no product being sold, was there? Cyphoidbomb (talk) 09:15, 29 December 2017 (UTC)

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Happy New Year, Amaury! Cyphoidbomb (talk) 08:29, 1 January 2018 (UTC)

Discussion at Talk:Kiznaiver#Why does this series matter? and Talk:Kiznaiver#Episode summaries

  You are invited to join the discussions at Talk:Kiznaiver#Why does this series matter? and at Talk:Kiznaiver#Episode summaries. Lord Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 06:38, 2 January 2018 (UTC)

Jaynagar I and Jaynagar II

Please hava a look at Jaynagar I and Jaynagar II on Notice Board for India-related topics. Cheers. - Chandan Guha (talk) 04:57, 2 January 2018 (UTC)

Thanks for the action taken. I will be away for about a week and then will keep watch on the page again. Cheers. - Chandan Guha (talk) 06:52, 2 January 2018 (UTC)

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Hello, Cyphoidbomb. You have new messages at Talk:Naagin (TV series).
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  You are invited to join the discussion at Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Anime- and manga-related articles#Header issues. Lord Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 04:15, 4 January 2018 (UTC)

are you saying ibtimes is also an unreliable source.

please edit wikipedia yourselfs rather than allowing users to edit and later deleating the edit claiming even ibtimes report as unreliable source .The reports edited by wikipedia admins even contains reports by blogs but when users edit with ibtimes report you are claiming that to be unreliable source. EAGLE EYE boxoffice analayser (talk) 20:55, 5 January 2018 (UTC)

@EAGLE EYE boxoffice analayser: Since you didn't specify what article you're referring to, what gross figures you're referring to, or what specific published report you are using as a reference, I have no way of knowing what you're talking about. I reverted several of your edits today for one reason or another and I've responded to at least 7 discussions you started, so you're going to have to be super-specific if you want to discuss something that's on your mind. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 04:37, 6 January 2018 (UTC)

Lopamudra Raut - Template:Bigg Boss 10

Hi User:Cyphoidbomb I assume you think I am Sahib college but I’m not I am a different user so please can you add the template tag on the bottom of Lopamudra Raut’s article please thank you User:109.152.176.247

Ask Ponyo. (Ponyo, see: Talk:Lopamudra Raut) Cyphoidbomb (talk) 17:57, 7 January 2018 (UTC)

WP:FILM discussion on multiple sources for film financials

I started a discussion about using multiple sources for film financials here - Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Film#Using multiple sources for film gross figures. Your thoughts and suggestions on the best way forward would be appreciated! Ravensfire (talk) 02:37, 10 January 2018 (UTC)

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Is it new rule of Wikipedia?

Hi User:Cyphoidbomb,

A user Ahmed Lutfe Inam has told me about a new Wikipedia rule that I never heard. Here is it. He told me that "I need permissions to edit his article". The page that he talk about, is not semi-protected page and I have rights of Extended confirmed user. Please explain me What I should do now. Thank You -- Siddiq Sazzad (Chat) 13:53, 16 January 2018 (UTC)

He is talking out of his ass, to be blunt. You can edit the page whenever you feel free to. If he brings it up again, refer him to WP:OWN.—CYBERPOWER (Chat) 15:04, 16 January 2018 (UTC)
@Siddiqsazzad001: What Cyberpower said above is correct. I've left the user a clarification on his talk page. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 15:34, 16 January 2018 (UTC)
Thank You - Siddiq Sazzad (Chat) 15:37, 16 January 2018 (UTC)

Hi, if you guys really checked my latest article, you may have known that a reference was added by Siddiqsazzad001 which had no connection with the article. I removed it once and notified him that the source is not presenting the article. But again Siddiqsazzad001 added it. I still didn't delete it. Don' you think a false reference should be removed from Wikipedia? And as an administrator, I expected some good behavior, but didn't get it. You may me a big person, but please first check the article or ask Siddiqsazzad001 and then increase your mentality. It'll help you in the near future. Ahmed Lutfe Inam (talk) 02:58, 17 January 2018 (UTC)

@Ahmed Lutfe Inam: As I noted on your talk page, if you have specific objections to Siddiq's edits, you may open a discussion on the article's talk page or the user's talk page. You did not do that. In fact, I don't even see that you used an edit summary to explain your edit, so how would you even expect another editor to know what you're talking about when you leave a blanket warning that he needs to run changes past you first? Moot point, as your warning is completely erroneous and is not acceptable. Do you understand? Cyphoidbomb (talk) 03:58, 17 January 2018 (UTC)

Yes, I do understand. Pardon me because I'm new and I didn't know to discuss about it. And I am not giving anyone any warning. I'm just telling that he is adding unreliable references which is not matching the article's subject. You can check it on the references tab on Jatir Janak Bangabandhu Sheikh Mujibur Rahman Govt. College. Ahmed Lutfe Inam (talk) 08:36, 17 January 2018 (UTC)

Request Review Draft:Son Of Abish

Hello Cyphoidbomb,

I need a little help here, I just read your user page and realized that you are an administrator. I recently created an article Draft: Son Of Abish and awaiting for review, I want this contribution of mine to be evaluated. Earlier I had created another article Draft: Walter Hamada it has same issue, and about a day later I found an article was already published, hence I copied the code to Walter Hamada
Kindly consider this request.
Thanks
Sonuverse (talk) 05:50, 17 January 2018 (UTC)

Hi Sonuverse, any reviewer can review that draft. It doesn't have to be an administrator. I can see a few issues right off the bat, which might hopefully help you.
  1. "...and is often mocked as a rip-off of Late Night with Jimmy Fallon" doesn't belong in the lead. While it may be true that some have called it derivative, it would be more intuitive to see this in a critical response section where we'd either quote the professional critics who have said this, or we'd find more neutral language than calling it a "rip-off", which is slang. Something along the lines of "Several critics, including ___ and ___ have described the series as derivative of Late Night with Jimmy Fallon. ___ said, "It's a complete rip-off." Our goal is to write a neutral encyclopedia.
  2. "Successfully running" is subjective and would need to be quantified somehow, or at least attributed to specific voices that arrived at this summary.
  3. You should probably mention that it is a web series in the opening sentence, if it is in fact a web series.
  4. "graced with the presences of talents" comes off as promotional puffery. Keeping it neutral, try "A number of Indian actors including ___, ___, and ___, have appeared on the series. Encyclopedias don't genuflect or kowtow.  
  5. You need more references, as you need to properly establish the subject's notability. See our General Notability Guideline. This is super-important, as any article where the notability has not been properly established, is subject to being nominated for deletion. So bring a good number of references from mainstream publications (major news sites, for instance--Times of India, The Hindu, Hindustani Times, etc.) that speak about the show in significant detail (not just passing mentions).
Hope this helps. Regards, Cyphoidbomb (talk) 06:05, 17 January 2018 (UTC)

- That should do. Sonuverse (talk) 09:11, 17 January 2018 (UTC)

Thirteenth Doctor

Cyphoid, would you mind dropping in on the article for the Thirteenth Doctor. We have an IP who persists in removing sourced material; he's been reverted by three editors and is at four reverts under his current IP (about six or seven total.) I'm not sure whether a block or a page protection is the best move given he's IP hopping, but something needs to be done! He's not responding to requests to use the talk page. I appreciate your help! ----Dr.Margi 16:57, 18 January 2018 (UTC)

@Drmargi: Semi-ed for a week. Regards, Cyphoidbomb (talk) 17:25, 18 January 2018 (UTC)
Thank you! Hopefully that will get the guys's attention and he'll knock it off. ----Dr.Margi 20:48, 18 January 2018 (UTC)

Shilpa Shinde article edit

Regarding this edit I just checked that I made a mistake in a hurry while writing about this piece of information because of some confusion regarding the Alzheimer's disease. I didn't mean to copy/paste, I just wasn't aware of what the disease is and how it led to her father's death with the whole "bodily functions" thing. Other than this minor error, I have not copied content from other sources, you can check for yourself. Also, I've inserted the information on Shinde's depression into the appropriate section. I'm new to writing articles about people so I might've made some mistakes. Thanks - Almeda64 (talk) 12:29, 19 January 2018 (UTC)

This discussion might interest you

There's a sockpuppet investigation surrounding four editors of the Naagin (TV series) article, an investigation that I thought that you might be interested in due to your frequent editing of that article. The investigation can be seen here.

I hope that you will find this information to be helpful!

Noah Kastin (talk) (🖋) 17:18, 13 January 2018 (UTC)

Hi sir,

I am vishal lavate wikipedia user, My curiosity says why not we add some questions answer topic in wikipedia...

I have a question on https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shilpa_Shinde shilpa shinde's profile

Pls provide some type of function on wikipedia I m fan of shilpa shinde, I love shilpa shinde I want to know about more Thank you c-vnl (talk) 08:41, 20 January 2018 (UTC)

Please help

Hello dear, the User talk:Sheldonlove12 is removing the whole edits of Drashti Dhami , Hina Khan and Jennifer Winget by saying that it is advertisement, he/she is new to Wikipedia and I already explained that Popularity/Impact and recognition is not about advertisements but notiable sources like Eastern Eye, Times of India, Rediff, MensXp etc are present and same thing written for others actresses like Aishwarya Rai. Please can you explane to him /her about that as he/she is new to Wikipedia.Zafar24Talk 06:49, 17 January 2018 (UTC)

I already talked to him/her but he/she is doing that thing again and again by giving the same reason that other articles not present that section.Zafar24Talk 07:07, 17 January 2018 (UTC)

@Zafar24: I've left him a note, but you should still try to discuss with him. Also, if those articles are important to you, you should help make them more neutral. Dhami's article says that she is one of the most admired Indian actresses. That comes off as a bit fluffy to me. Part of the problem is that there's no contrary view of some of these people. If you look at Tom Cruise or Marilyn Monroe, you'll notice that all of the content about public adoration and fame and sexiest/most popular ratings take up but a small portion of space. The rest of those articles deal with real issues like their marriages or their upbringing or their controversial religious beliefs or drug use, etc. This all brings balance to the articles that is perhaps missing from the articles you've linked. Regards, Cyphoidbomb (talk) 07:26, 17 January 2018 (UTC)

Thanks dear. The issue is solved.Zafar24Talk 10:33, 20 January 2018 (UTC)

Info about bold letters

Hi dear, can you look at this article List of concerts by Shreya Ghoshal where a editor who created the article is using bold letters in introduction. Please can you tell me that can we use bold letters in introduction in that type of article.Zafar24Talk 10:32, 20 January 2018 (UTC)

@Zafar24: I've fixed it and left the editor a note. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 22:40, 20 January 2018 (UTC)

arbitration committe

Hii Cyphoidbomob. Why dont you create a username for me, and allow me to edit wikipedia with that username (I can provide you a scanned copy of my passport). For sincere editors such as me the "standard offer" can be skipped out. I have proved time and again how important I am to wikipedia. Wikipedia is my father. Did you notice my edits in S. S. Rajamouli. No one cares if I dont edit the article. Such is the bad condition. As a wikipedia administrator this is what you want or you want a one man army such as me. Why dont you take this issue to the arbitration committee.Juniorcyphoid (talk) 09:14, 21 January 2018 (UTC)

Fuck off. I have no interest in helping someone who keeps lying and wasting editor resources. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 09:19, 21 January 2018 (UTC)

Socks

Vivek Chourasia, Vivek Chourasia vc4137 and Vc4137... how much longer should they be allowed an opportunity to respond? I think there's enough evidence for SPI now. --Drm310 🍁 (talk) 17:41, 22 January 2018 (UTC)

Hi Drm310, as you know, having multiple accounts itself is not a violation of our policies, so I'm assuming good faith and attempting to guide the user to follow our various policies/guidelines so that we don't have to escalate this. Since he hasn't responded to any contact and he's made some pretty weird choices, like creating articles about himself as well as pigheadedly re-introducting MOS/typography contraventions, he's very close to requiring intervention. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 03:12, 23 January 2018 (UTC)

Labels

Hey there Cyphoidbomb. I have a query- you often tell users not to use subjective labels like "blockbuster" (you once told that to me too), but when featured articles like Jaws (film) do so, shouldn't it be fine as long as it is a well-sourced claim? 86.97.130.20 (talk) 13:14, 23 January 2018 (UTC)

I would steer well clear of it in 99% of circumstances. Most of the issues I've dealt with are in the context of Indian film articles. Indian trade rags love to toss around these labels as "verdicts", which are interpreted by zealous editors as incontrovertible fact. These editors (some of whom are working for film marketing companies) in turn regurgitate the content at Wikipedia with no regard for neutrality or academic value. Maybe declaring one film a disaster might make a competing film look more appealing?
In the vast majority of good-faith cases I've seen, the editor usually has zero idea of why calling something a "disaster" or a "failure" or a "flop" or a "superhit" or "the film declared as all-time blockbuster status" might be problematic even from a tonal perspective. In some cases the content is sourced, but so what when the content is puffery? Where is our neutrality? Ex: as I'm sure you know, Rotten Tomatoes is one of the two major critical response aggregators out there. They have a pass/fail rating system where films are either declared "fresh" or "rotten". Do we include those labels? Virtually never. And if a popular reviewer described a film as a "steaming pile of shit", would we include that phrasing as though it were representative of all opinions on the matter? No. (We might include it as one of many reviews, but we wouldn't write, "The film was declared a steaming pile of shit.") Now in the case of Jaws, the term "blockbuster" isn't being used gratuitously to puff up the film. The term is being used in the context of describing how Jaws helped establish the concept of the "summer blockbuster", which is now a big part of how America plans big ticket movie releases for summertime. This is a significant, nuanced difference than just blindly calling an Indian film a blockbuster. Here's another one too: "Cult hit"/"cult favorite"/"cult status". Rocky Horror Picture Show is the quintessential cult film. But nowadays everything has a "cult following". Mean Girls, MST3K, etc. It's an overused term. As is "blockbuster". Jaws is a film that has been covered thousands of times in great depth, in newspapers, magazines, television, documentaries, and books books books. Can the same be said of Premam? (Picking a random example...)
TL;DR: No. Stay away from it. Build an article to FA quality first, then let's talk about whether or not to use subjective descriptors. Regards, Cyphoidbomb (talk) 16:08, 23 January 2018 (UTC)

References

Hi Cyphoidbomb,

I want to ask a question. Are YouTube and Spotify are referenced for non- vocalist artists article? Thank You - Siddiq Sazzad (Chat) 16:29, 31 January 2018 (UTC)

@Siddiqsazzad001: I don't understand the question. Are you asking if they are considered reliable sources? I don't know about Spotify, but I think it probably would not be. I don't know where they get their information. There are situations where a YouTube video could be a reliable source, but it depends on the subject. If you are using a YouTube video to prove that a person had a credit in a music video or something, you can do that, but we cannot use potential copyright violations as references. So to be safe, you should only use videos from verified YouTube channels, like Eros Music, or Sony Music, etc. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 16:34, 31 January 2018 (UTC)
@Cyphoidbomb:, I was talking about this article. I wants to improve this article. But I don't know which reliable or not reliable source that's why I asked you for help. Siddiq Sazzad (Chat) 16:41, 31 January 2018 (UTC)