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Hey there, saw you created Silvery Sometimes (Ghosts). Looks like the band announced the album title not too long after (article on it here), so I made a redirect for it (at Shiny and Oh So Bright, Vol. 1 / LP: No Past. No Future. No Sun.)...do you think there's enough content for it yet? Ss112 06:34, 14 September 2018 (UTC)Reply

Hey Ss112, I'll look into what's out there and start building an article in my sandbox, we have a tracklist and in my research for the Silvery Sometimes article there was quite a bit out there about the recording and themes etc. Thanks for the heads up EL Foz87 (talk) 06:54, 14 September 2018 (UTC)Reply
It's alright, there's no need for it anymore—the user Joshuakodrat created a pretty poor stub in the wrong place, which was moved over the top of the redirect I made. It's pretty lacking on content, but I suppose that qualifies as an article now... Ss112 19:30, 14 September 2018 (UTC)Reply
I just had a look and wow... it's bad! EL Foz87 (talk) 20:19, 14 September 2018 (UTC)Reply

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I've checked them out and they are factual, the user just isn't referencing certification properly. Maybe just a friendly reminder of what he needs to do. EL Foz87 (talk) 13:13, 28 March 2020 (UTC)Reply

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Hey. I see you changed gold to platinum here and was wondering where you got that info from as the current source just gives a 404 page. The reason I ask is because I reverted someone before you doing the same thing due to them not supplying a source and with your edit I'm questioning my reversion of their edit. Also they have made similar incremental changes to other discographys and I want to be able to verify said edits. Robvanvee 07:51, 28 March 2020 (UTC)Reply

My apologies, I assumed the BPI master reference still worked, I've added a reference for Friday I'm in Love from the BPI Website but it looks like the link for all the others is now dead. I will look at updating the master BPI reference shortly EL Foz87 (talk) 09:27, 28 March 2020 (UTC)Reply

That's awesome, thanks EL Foz! Could I trouble you to look at these and let me know whether you think they are good or possible fan-cruft. I have asked them to give me the url on their talk page and while I don't want to be an arsehole I would like to be be sure the articles stay in great shape with solid references and additions. Robvanvee 11:03, 28 March 2020 (UTC)Reply

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Hey EL Foz87! I just now saw that you created/worked on a lot of the Pale Waves pages. I dunno if you're still interested in PW, but I've recently started to work on several articles that you created (namely, "Television Romance" and My Mind Makes Noises), trying to get them up to GA. A few months ago, I promoted Who Am I? to GA, too! Anyway, just wanted to reach out. I dig the band, but don't come across many fans 'in the wild,' so to speak, so I thought I'd say hi.--Gen. Quon (Talk) 17:48, 8 February 2022 (UTC)Reply

Hi, sorry for the major delay in reply, I genuinely have only just seen this. I am very interested in Pale Waves, I love their work which inspired me to pur together a lot of the Original content within the articles. I don't edit to much these days since the birth of my children, time is the enemy! I've checked out some of your work on the article and new articles, great work! Yeah I don't see many fans out in the wild either. They're a band I feel should be much bigger than they are, but at the same time I'm glad it's kind of a cult following instead of being too mainstream.

Anyway I'd love to do some future work on the page at some point, so I'm happy there's someone out there that shares the enthusiasm. EL Foz87 (talk) 10:15, 23 July 2022 (UTC)Reply

Sorry for my delay in getting back to you. Yeah, let me know if you'd ever like to collab or something. I'm working on getting their new album up to "good article" status... one of these days, haha.--Gen. Quon[Talk](I'm studying Wikipedia!) 19:36, 19 August 2022 (UTC)Reply

Hey, hey, I got a quick Pale Waves question for ya! I noticed that according to the UK Charts, "New Year's Eve" peaked at number 3 on the physical and vinyl sales charts. However, was a vinyl for NYE ever released on its own? I have a sneaking suspicion that this chart entry is for a mislabeled version of "All the Things I Never Said". Do you have any thoughts?--Gen. Quon[Talk](I'm studying Wikipedia!) 13:44, 15 September 2022 (UTC)Reply

Yes you would be correct in that. For some reason Official Charts the week after All the Things I Never Said was released decided to alter it and label it a New Entry and change the name. If you look at the week prior (23 March 2018 - 29 March 2018) where ATTINS charted and the week "New Year's Eve" charted (30 March 2018 - 05 April 2018) ATTINS dissappears from the chart. The only information I have on that is that the EP was originally set to be called New Year's Eve and that the person inputting the data for the chart build that week was going off of an old press release. Simple mistake but one that was never rectified. Now if you look any time it re-enters the physical/vinyl charts the mistake has carried over. § EL Foz87 (talk) 05:26, 16 September 2022 (UTC)Reply
That's probably the case with the Scottish entry, too, right[1]? Bummer, as there is no way to 'prove' it, other than reach out to Dirty Hit or OC (and I've tried both to no avail, haha).--Gen. Quon[Talk](I'm studying Wikipedia!) 13:58, 19 September 2022 (UTC)Reply

Yeah, there is no Catalogue Number to see here what it is. I think its probably safe to assume that's the EP in the Scottish Charts but then there's no way of being 100 percent certain. I'm surprised the band has never charter on the UK Singles Chart or much anywhere else! They make such good music it's a shame it hasn't seemed to cross over into more mainstream success. EL Foz87 (talk) 12:39, 21 September 2022 (UTC)Reply

I just found info the other day that showed they were charting on Radiomonitor's UK airplay chart. But yeah, I think their lack of physical singles has hurt them in the charting department.
As for citations, I'm torn about not including the no. 3 citation for NYE, because I feel like it might be veering on original research, even though I'm also in agreement with you about it being an mistake.--Gen. Quon[Talk](I'm studying Wikipedia!) 14:17, 21 September 2022 (UTC)Reply
In case you were curious, here's how I have tried to handle the "New Year's Eve" situation. Since Wikipedia goes off sources, it seems wrong to ignore the OCC website wholesale, but I also think an explanatory note is warranted, even if it does veer a bit into OR-y territory.--Gen. Quon[Talk](I'm studying Wikipedia!) 16:42, 20 October 2022 (UTC)Reply

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FYI, in regards to this comment, for future reference, Alt Press - short for Alternative Press - is a reliable source per WP:RSMUSIC. Sergecross73 msg me 14:40, 22 July 2024 (UTC)Reply

Hi Sergecross. My apologies, I was thinking of Alternative Nation for some reason here and mixed the two up. Alternative Press is a RS, Alternative Nation isn't. Apologies for my mix up. EL Foz87 (talk) 06:36, 23 July 2024 (UTC)Reply
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