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GitLab and GitHub
editI just found a way to sync stuff between GitLab and GitHub. I am not sure if you are aware, but maybe you can use that to create a "read-only" or "synced" repository on GitHub for us to work with. But then, it can kind of be a little overboard as you then have to track pull requests all over the place. Aasim 09:50, 6 September 2020 (UTC)
- Awesome Aasim, we don't have any plans to make an official GitHub mirror at the moment, especially considering that it could create an issue if people make pull requests there and things. It's easier for us to manage at a single location. Ed talk! 13:48, 6 September 2020 (UTC)
- User:Ed6767 that is understood. I know Wikimedia Foundation has a read-only mirror of MediaWiki. You could maybe get a bot to auto-close pull requests made at GitHub. Or have the pull requests mirror on GitLab and autoclose or something like that. So that this happens when you try to make a pull request. Aasim 18:38, 6 September 2020 (UTC)
Administrators' newsletter – September 2020
editNews and updates for administrators from the past month (August 2020).
- Following a request for comment, the minimum length for site ban discussions was increased to 72 hours, up from 24.
- A request for comment is ongoing to determine whether paid editors
must
orshould
use the articles for creation process. - A request for comment is open to resolve inconsistencies between the draftification and alternative to deletion processes.
- A request for comment is open to provide an opportunity to amend the structure, rules, and procedures of the 2020 English Wikipedia Arbitration Committee election and to resolve any issues not covered by existing rules.
- An open request for comment asks whether active Arbitrators may serve on the Trust and Safety Case Review Committee or Ombudsman commission.
RC patrol
editHi Ed. I can now say I have used RedWarn a few more times. Anyway, today, I just made a (kind of, but not really) more robust RC patrol method that is kind of like Huggle, but a lot simpler lol. I have already worked on an RC patrol widget and a RC notification tool, but now we have RC patrol. I have always wanted to make a more robust tool kind of like wikiHow's, and I kind of did. If you would like to try it, feel free to do so. :) Aasim 03:23, 6 September 2020 (UTC)
- Awesome Aasim, looks cool! Reminds me a lot of the first tool I made, but with mine I added like a counter in the bottom left saying "moving on in 10... 9..." and if you didn't press shift to add extra time the redirect would complete as usual. I think that's better than the sudden redirects. Ed talk! 13:47, 6 September 2020 (UTC)
About the removed changes on OFDM page
editHi Ed6767, I noticed that you deleted all my additions in OFDM page. Could you please explain the reasons why you refused all resources? Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Amany N Mohamed (talk • contribs) 08:58, 9 September 2020 (UTC)
- Hi Amany N Mohamed, can you please let me know when and where this occurred? I'm afraid I don't recall. Ed talk! 15:54, 9 September 2020 (UTC)
- And now why you removed my edit in OFDM history although I used a reliable resource from FCC? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Amany N Mohamed (talk • contribs) 16:52, 10 September 2020 (UTC)
- Amany N Mohamed, that wasn't done by me, but was explained on your talk page. Ed talk! 17:08, 10 September 2020 (UTC)
- And now why you removed my edit in OFDM history although I used a reliable resource from FCC? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Amany N Mohamed (talk • contribs) 16:52, 10 September 2020 (UTC)
Ok, could you please help me to publish that edits i followed your instructions and used a strong and reliable resource. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Amany N Mohamed (talk • contribs) 20:58, 10 September 2020 (UTC)
Got my recent pull request?
editSee [1]. Thanks. Aasim 15:49, 9 September 2020 (UTC)
- Awesome Aasim, thanks for the ping, it's been merged. Ed talk! 15:54, 9 September 2020 (UTC)
I think this may be helpful if you are developing RedWarn mobile/desktop
edithttps://labs.ft.com/2012/08/basic-offline-html5-web-app/
Why? Because it allows you to completely bypass the App Store and Play Store and immediately get a working webapp that can work offline. I think RedWarn would be great as a webapp.
I am not sure if you already know this, so I am sharing just in case. Aasim 07:31, 10 September 2020 (UTC)
- Hi Awesome Aasim, thanks for your suggestion - we're actually already working on a PWA for the new RedWarn. Thanks again :) Ed talk! 11:54, 10 September 2020 (UTC)
RedWarn and WebKit
editWhat makes RedWarn not work properly on iOS mobile? Aasim 00:20, 11 September 2020 (UTC)
- Awesome Aasim, Safari/WebKit isn't supported and doesn't support many of the APIs needed for RedWarn at the moment. Ed talk! 08:28, 11 September 2020 (UTC)
- I feel like nothing works on Safari/WebKit. One of the scripts that I wrote that makes new sections shows two boxes. And I am getting "404" errors in the dev console with regards to redwarn. Moral of the story: don't use Safari. Use a Chromium-based browser. Aasim 18:38, 11 September 2020 (UTC)
- Awesome Aasim, y'know how they advertise all the Safari is x times faster than Chrome! Yeah, they don't get that through enhancements, they just cut things out and call it a day. Can't wait for it to have full support really because it's a quite annoying edge case. Ed talk! 19:30, 11 September 2020 (UTC)
- Ed6767 maybe you can have it detect compatible browsers and if RedWarn is not compatible, then it pops up with a notification that says "Sorry, but your browser or device is not compatible with RedWarn." And the reason why RedWarn does not work on iPhone is because all browsers on iPhone have to use Apple's WebKit engine, which breaks everything. Aasim 20:27, 11 September 2020 (UTC)
- Awesome Aasim, y'know how they advertise all the Safari is x times faster than Chrome! Yeah, they don't get that through enhancements, they just cut things out and call it a day. Can't wait for it to have full support really because it's a quite annoying edge case. Ed talk! 19:30, 11 September 2020 (UTC)
- I feel like nothing works on Safari/WebKit. One of the scripts that I wrote that makes new sections shows two boxes. And I am getting "404" errors in the dev console with regards to redwarn. Moral of the story: don't use Safari. Use a Chromium-based browser. Aasim 18:38, 11 September 2020 (UTC)
New pull request
edit[3] Aasim 05:00, 11 September 2020 (UTC)
- Thanks :) FYI, we're all automatically pinged on our private discord channels when a new PR or other event occurs, such as the RedWarn pages being edited, so there's no need to leave a talk page message. Ed talk! 08:31, 11 September 2020 (UTC)
New RC Patrol in all its glory
editSee WP:RCPS. (Yes, I created that shortcut because I anticipate that the tool may blow up like Huggle.) It is still a work in progress, but for now it works on the English Wikipedia. My hope is to get cross wiki support and a configuration file. One thing I am kind of ticked about is that I cannot get the OOUI icons to work properly. It always shows a blank icon. I think I should file a request a Phabricator to fix it. Aasim 22:33, 13 September 2020 (UTC)
- Awesome Aasim, looking good! Great improvement. Two things: 1. Have you thought about using the PHP development like what RedWarn does? It'll make development so much easier for you, and can update the script once everything is tested and working. You don't actually need a build script if you're only using one file, let me know if you'd like help setting that up. 2. RE the OOUI icons, have you made sure to import the OOUI libary (i.e through mw.using)? See mw:OOUI/Using_OOUI_in_MediaWiki#Gadgets. Again, great work! Ed talk! 22:44, 13 September 2020 (UTC)
- Thanks Ed. Have you checked out some of my other scripts? One of them, WP:XFDVOTE, has kind of blown up a bit. Aasim 22:50, 13 September 2020 (UTC)
- Awesome Aasim, installed, seems quite useful! If you need any help feel free do email or direct message me on Discord, I'm very happy to help :) Ed talk! 22:53, 13 September 2020 (UTC)
Okay, it seems like a bug with OOUI. Only two icons of the expected several are loading. I opened a bug report at phab:T262779. Hopefully they can figure out whether it is a problem with my code or a problem with the documentation or what. The fact that only one or two icons are loading out of the several that I selected clearly indicates a bug. Aasim 03:33, 14 September 2020 (UTC)Nah I had to include some other ooui library. Thanks for the help, though! Aasim 05:07, 14 September 2020 (UTC)
- Awesome Aasim, installed, seems quite useful! If you need any help feel free do email or direct message me on Discord, I'm very happy to help :) Ed talk! 22:53, 13 September 2020 (UTC)
- Thanks Ed. Have you checked out some of my other scripts? One of them, WP:XFDVOTE, has kind of blown up a bit. Aasim 22:50, 13 September 2020 (UTC)
Ummm, maybe not?
edit- Special:Diff/978424699
- Special:Permalink/973319444#RfC:_Increase_minimum_length_for_site_ban_discussions
-- Cabayi (talk) 21:04, 14 September 2020 (UTC)
- Cabayi, whoops! Didn't know it had increased, and as there'd been little activity I thought it okay to close. Feel free to revert. Ed talk! 21:12, 14 September 2020 (UTC)
Well...
editSomeone may have already had a similar idea in mind... but... the issue is that the diffs running down the left side of SWViewer is too distracting and requires OAuth. My idea is to have a cross-wiki solution in mind that does not involve having to view every single edit on every single wiki. It just works. And my solution is fast with low risk of accidential rollbacks. Aasim 22:45, 14 September 2020 (UTC)
- To be honest, I am also amazed by how quickly my RC patrol script developed into something really usable in a matter of a few days. Maybe you want to try it out? WP:RCPS Next thing you know I have Pending Changes Patrol fully ready for English Wikipedia. Aasim 02:08, 15 September 2020 (UTC)
- Awesome Aasim, yeah, it gets like that. The first version of RedWarn was working within six days, and it grew from there really, so best wishes! Ed talk! 02:23, 15 September 2020 (UTC)
Most recent feedback on RedWarn
editI think there should either be icons in Contributions instead of confusing three-letter words, and maybe labels that are always visible under the icons that we can always know what they mean. I have used Huggle, and I bet you have used Huggle before too, and you know that the icons are easy to understand for the most part. But having icon labels provide a level of redundancy.
(Also, I do not think a user should have the ability to hide the "more options" icon lol. I just did that.) Aasim 19:05, 15 September 2020 (UTC)
Quick note on User talk:Sandbox for user warnings
editThanks for your edits to User talk:Sandbox for user warnings.
Well... um... you probably need more work on the content of your invitation message, as the entire ToC is filled with the RedWarn page... Aasim (talk) 16:11, 21 September 2020 (UTC)
Administrators' newsletter – September 2020
editNews and updates for administrators from the past month (September 2020).
- Ajpolino • LuK3
- Jackmcbarn
- Ad Orientem • Harej • Lid • Lomn • Mentoz86 • Oliver Pereira • XJaM
- There'sNoTime → TheresNoTime
- A request for comment found consensus that incubation as an alternative to deletion should generally only be recommended when draftification is appropriate, namely
1) if the result of a deletion discussion is to draftify; or 2) if the article is newly created
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- A request for comment found consensus that incubation as an alternative to deletion should generally only be recommended when draftification is appropriate, namely
- The filter log now provides links to view diffs of deleted revisions (phab:T261630).
- The 2020 CheckUser and Oversight appointment process has begun. The community consultation period will take place from September 27th to October 7th.
- Following a request for comment, sitting Committee members may not serve on either the Ombuds Commission or the WMF Case Review Committee. The Arbitration Committee passed a motion implementing those results into their procedures.
- The Universal Code of Conduct draft is open for community review and comment until October 6th, 2020.
- Office actions may now be appealed to the Interim Trust & Safety Case Review Committee.
hindley milner / wp:tone
editHi Ed6767,
you have added a flag to Hindley–Milner type system. Not that i disagree, but I would appreciate if you'd add a word to the talk page, what in particular caught your eye.
Thanks and kind regards
-- Cobalt pen (talk)
- Hi, Cobalt pen. While I can't remember the specifics of why a tagged it (as it was a good few months ago now), at the moment I feel the predominant use of lists and lack of inline citations in many places, along with other concern would warrant this tag. Hope this helps, and feel free to copy this message over to the appropriate talk page. Ed talk! 09:19, 2 October 2020 (UTC)
- Thx, just copied over. -- Cobalt pen (talk) 14:25, 6 October 2020 (UTC)
Please help me fix this deletion pattern I don't know if I've done a rest or not please check.--FCxO (talk) 17:11, 25 October 2020 (UTC)
- FCxO, as it's your Sandbox you can just empty the page content yourself so you can use it again later. Or, you can add {{db-u1}} to the page if you want to delete it. Ed talk! 17:14, 25 October 2020 (UTC)
- I want to leave a WP:AFD to create it if we can pass it on the draft draft:Amir Sarkhosh and leave a WP:AFD for him because I couldn't do it thank you.--FCxO (talk) 17:17, 25 October 2020 (UTC)
- LTA locked, AFD and Draft deleted as usual. DMacks (talk) 03:34, 26 October 2020 (UTC)
Redwarn
editI explained further on the talk page. (I quite expected your revert). Probably I should judge more exactly by installing it and actually giving it a try. But it's unfortunate to couple features to a nonstandard interface . I do not know how many feeel as I do about such interfaces, but I suppose it will be acome apparent. (If you're wondering, I was raised first on alphabets, and then on Unix) DGG ( talk ) 00:00, 20 October 2020 (UTC)
Administrators' newsletter – November 2020
editNews and updates for administrators from the past month (October 2020).
Interface administrator changes
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- Community sanctions now authorize administrators to place under indefinite semiprotection
any article on a beauty pageant, or biography of a person known as a beauty pageant contestant, which has been edited by a sockpuppet account or logged-out sockpuppet
, to be logged at WP:GS/PAGEANT.
- Community sanctions now authorize administrators to place under indefinite semiprotection
- Sysops will once again be able to view the deleted history of JS/CSS pages; this was restricted to interface administrators when that group was introduced.
- Twinkle's block module now includes the ability to note the specific case when applying a discretionary sanctions block and/or template.
- Sysops will be able to use Special:CreateLocalAccount to create a local account for a global user that is prevented from auto-creation locally (such as by a filter or range block). Administrators that are not sure if such a creation is appropriate should contact a checkuser.
- The 2020 Arbitration Committee Elections process has begun. Eligible editors will be able to nominate themselves as candidates from November 8 through November 17. The voting period will run from November 23 through December 6.
- The Anti-harassment RfC has concluded with a summary of the feedback provided.
- A reminder that
standard discretionary sanctions are authorized for all edits about, and all pages related to post-1932 politics of the United States and closely related people.
(American Politics 2 Arbitration case).
- A reminder that
RedWarn Preferences
editHello Ed6767. I know that I could have cleared my RedWarn things on the preferences page, but I intentionally did it through that page because it was buggy. Thanks anyway! Helpthepeople9 (talk) 00:08, 8 November 2020 (UTC)
- Helpthepeople9, can you let me know what the issue is you're facing? I'm currently working under the hood in RedWarn now, and I might be able to fix your issue. Ed talk! 00:10, 8 November 2020 (UTC)
- RedWarn had been making Wikipedia browsing really slow, but deleting that from the RedWarn config has fixed it. I think it was because I installed a pack that slowed down Wikipedia for me. Helpthepeople9 (talk) 00:15, 8 November 2020 (UTC)
- Helpthepeople9, odd, I haven't experienced an issue like that but will look into it. Many thanks, Ed talk! 14:23, 8 November 2020 (UTC)
- RedWarn had been making Wikipedia browsing really slow, but deleting that from the RedWarn config has fixed it. I think it was because I installed a pack that slowed down Wikipedia for me. Helpthepeople9 (talk) 00:15, 8 November 2020 (UTC)
Automatic bug report
edit!!! Clicked on RedWarn Preferences option (from Toolbar icons > More Options), while looking at User talk:Sandbox for user warnings. !!! — MrConorAE (👤U | 💬T | 📝C) 18:48, 9 November 2020 (UTC)
- MrConorAE, thanks for reporting, the bug is now fixed :) Ed talk! 19:16, 9 November 2020 (UTC)
- Ed6767 - Wow, that was amazingly quick! Thank you so much! :D — MrConorAE (👤U | 💬T | 📝C) 19:44, 9 November 2020 (UTC)
A kitten for you!
editKITTEN WIKILOVE INBOUND
Leijurv (talk) 21:48, 9 November 2020 (UTC)
- Leijurv, this is what I live for. This world is meaningless without kitten WikiLove. Ed talk! 21:54, 9 November 2020 (UTC)
New, simpler RfC to define trust levels for WikiLoop DoubleCheck
editHI Ed6767/archive/6,
I'm writing to let you know we have simplified the RfC on trust levels for the tool WikiLoop DoubleCheck. Please join and share your thoughts about this feature! We made this change after hearing users' comments on the first RfC being too complicated. I hope that you can participate this time around, giving your feedback on this new feature for WikiLoop DoubleCheck users.
Thanks and see you around online,
María Cruz
MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 20:05, 19 November 2020 (UTC)
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ArbCom 2020 Elections voter message
editOfftopic comment
editRegarding your offtopic comment, canvassing isn't solely defined by the tone of what you say but also by: where, to whom, and whether anyone of a particular sort other than the ones you said it to knows that you said it. It doesn't look good when you provide a message to users of your proposed gadget in apparently some conspicuous place known only to users of that proposed gadget. This is why people have accused you have canvassing. This note is just explanatory — I don't personally care too much for/against you on the point. --Izno (talk) 17:29, 29 November 2020 (UTC)
Administrators' newsletter – December 2020
editNews and updates for administrators from the past month (November 2020).
- Andrwsc • Anetode • GoldenRing • JzG • LinguistAtLarge • Nehrams2020
Interface administrator changes
- There is a request for comment in progress to either remove T3 (duplicated and hardcoded instances) as a speedy deletion criterion or eliminate its seven-day waiting period.
- Voting for proposals in the 2021 Community Wishlist Survey, which determines what software the Wikimedia Foundation's Community Tech team will work on next year, will take place from 8 December through 21 December. In particular, there are sections regarding administrators and anti-harassment.
- Voting in the 2020 Arbitration Committee Elections is open to eligible editors until Monday 23:59, 7 December 2020 UTC. Please review the candidates and, if you wish to do so, submit your choices on the voting page.
Scripts++ Newsletter – Issue 18
editNews and updates associated with user scripts from the past three months (September, October, and November 2020).
Hello everyone and welcome to the 18th issue of the Wikipedia Scripts++ Newsletter:
Scripts Submit your new/improved script here
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- Twinkle has made a number of improvements, including using a change tag to identify actions made with it and automatically filing edit requests for protected XfD nominations.
- SD0001's shortdescs-in-category is now compatible with scripts modifying category listings, such as Equazcion's CatListMainTalkLinks
- GhostInTheMachine's TalkHelper2 is a newer version of their prior script, TalkHelper
- GeneralNotability's spihelper updated to 2.2.10, fixing a number of small bugs, automatically tagging globally locked socks as such in the sockpuppet template, and restoring open cases following an SPI history merge.
- Enterprisey's script-installer gadget has been updated with more internationalization of messages, as well as addition of a user preference,
window.scriptInstallerInstallTarget
to allow controlling where new scripts are to be installed.
- Enterprisey is looking for beta testers for their new section-watchlist user script. See the announcement.
- The second edition of the m:Coolest Tool Award will be taking place in December.
- Enterprisey's links-in-logs script has now been implemented as part of MediaWiki core, see gerrit:640761 and phab:T207562.
My apologies for the delayed issue. As always, if anyone else would like to contribute, help is appreciated. Stay safe, --DannyS712 (talk) 18:20, 1 December 2020 (UTC)
December 2020
editAutomatic bug report
edit!!! Replace this text with any further information you wish to provide that will help us fix this bug. !!! Captainllama (talk) 14:46, 10 December 2020 (UTC)
rollback getRollbackRevID failed via final else! related URL: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Indo-European_ablaut&diff=prev&oldid=993307025
user:Snagemit back again?
editEd6767 I find myself in the difficult territory of seeing the same odd but strangely distinctive editing behaviour with user:Freezingwedge as with the now-banned user:Snagemit. The type of articles is broadly the same. The speed and volume of this editor is highly distinctive - moving from one article to the next at speed - so surely having no time to consult sources. There are also pointless edits that do nothing to improve an article. Do you think there is enough for an investigation? - I fear not, hence the question.ThoughtIdRetired (talk) 09:57, 14 December 2020 (UTC)
Scripts++ Newsletter – Issue 19
editNews and updates associated with user scripts from the past month (December 2020).
Hello everyone and welcome to the 19th issue of the Wikipedia Scripts++ Newsletter:
Scripts Submit your new/improved script here
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- Voting in the m:Community Wishlist Survey 2021 is ongoing until December 21, 2020. There are 15 proposals in the "bots and gadgets" category that may be of interest.
- A script to help list discussions at WP:ANRFC (request)
- A script to allow undoing edits despite conflicting intermediary edits (request)
- ...and many more, all available at Wikipedia:User scripts/Requests
- The Watchlist Expiry feature worked on by the Community Tech team has been enabled on Wikipedia. For scripts that include watching or unwatching pages, developers may want to update their code to take advantage of the new functionality. See the documentation on mediawiki.org.
- As noted in the prior issue, Enterprisey's links-in-logs script has now been implemented as part of MediaWiki core. By my count, this is his third script that was replaced by implementing the code in MediaWiki core or an extension, along with link-section-edits and abusefilter-hide-search. Additionally, his reply-link script is being converted in part to mw:Extension:DiscussionTools. Are there any other scripts that might be worth integrating directly in MediaWiki? Thoughts would be welcome at Wikipedia talk:Scripts++.
As always, if anyone else would like to contribute, help is appreciated. Stay safe, and happy holidays! --DannyS712 (talk) 00:19, 18 December 2020 (UTC)
Happy Holidays™™
editHello Ed6767: Enjoy the holiday season, and thanks for your work to maintain, improve and expand Wikipedia. Cheers, — Yours, Berrely (🎅 Ho ho ho! 🎄) • Talk∕Contribs 11:39, 23 December 2020 (UTC)
- Spread the WikiLove; use {{subst:Season's Greetings1}} to send this message
ThadeusOfNazerethTalk to Me! is wishing you a Merry Christmas! Thanks for trusting me with access to RedWarn when you first introduced it. It's become one of the most valuable tools on this site.
This greeting (and season) promotes WikiLove and hopefully this note has made your day a little better. Spread the WikiLove by wishing another user a Merry Christmas, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past, a good friend, or just some random person. Happy New Year! Spread the Christmas cheer by adding {{subst:Xmas3}} to their talk page with a friendly message. |
Happy Holidays!
editHello Ed6767: Enjoy the holiday season and winter solstice if it's occurring in your area of the world, and thanks for your work to maintain, improve and expand Wikipedia. Cheers, Merry Christmas! Asartea Talk Contribs! 15:40, 25 December 2020 (UTC)
Happy New Year, Ed6767!
editEd6767,
Have a prosperous, productive and enjoyable New Year, and thanks for your contributions to Wikipedia.
―sportzpikachu my talkcontribs 11:31, 31 December 2020 (UTC)
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