Edgar Aetheling 25

November 2023

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December 2023

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Stephan Heinrich of Everstein moved to draftspace

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Welcome?

I see you have returned to editing, so perhaps my attempt to help was successful. I have closed UTRS appeal #84444. JBW (talk) 19:24, 4 February 2024 (UTC)

Yes, Thank you. Edgar Aetheling 25 (talk) 19:38, 4 February 2024 (UTC)

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Your submission at Articles for creation: Gaius Licinius Calvus (March 3)

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Ways to improve Gaius Claudius Canina

Hello, Edgar Aetheling 25,

Thank you for creating Gaius Claudius Canina.

I have tagged the page as having some issues to fix, as a part of our page curation process and note that:

Full book references are necessary please.

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Mccapra (talk) 23:14, 6 March 2024 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Quintus Caedicius Noctua (March 15)

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Robert McClenon (talk) 01:31, 15 March 2024 (UTC)

I have sent you a note about a page you started

Hello, Edgar Aetheling 25. Thank you for your work on Gaius Mamilius Turrinus. Moriwen, while examining this page as a part of our page curation process, had the following comments:

I've been loving all your biographies of ancient Romans but this one feels a little hard to justify notability imo. Do we know anything about this particular consul besides his name?

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— Moriwen (talk) 17:09, 16 March 2024 (UTC)

{{Re|Moriwen}}. Thank you for the kind words, I appreciate it. Mamilius Turrinus does not have much notability I will admit, however, he has articles in Latin, Italian, Etc. Thus I believe the article should stay. Of course, it is at your discretion. Edgar Aetheling 25 (talk) 18:34, 16 March 2024 (UTC)

I have sent you a note about a page you started

Hello, Edgar Aetheling 25. Thank you for your work on Quintus Petillius Spurinus and Quintus Caedicius Noctua. Ingratis, while examining these pages as a part of our page curation process, had the following comments:

Thank you for these short articles, which I have accepted. However, you have by now contributed many such articles and seen the same corrections repeatedly, so I hope you won't mind if I comment that you should by now be remembering not only to add the references properly formatted but also to add accurate categories and sort the articles correctly, that is, by nomen, not praenomen. Please do take this on board: it should not be difficult to build these things into your article construction process and otherwise you'll keep getting similar comments from other editors. On the positive side, I don't agree with the above comment about notability: I don't think there can be any doubt about the notability of consuls by virtue of being consuls.

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I have sent you a note about pages you started

Hello, Edgar Aetheling 25. Thank you for your work on Gnaeus Cornelius Dolabella (consul 159 BC) and Gaius Fannius Strabo. Ingratis, while examining these pages as a part of our page curation process, had the following comments:

Articles accepted - there's no reason however why you cannot also address the issues of ref formatting / sorting etc, as has been pointed out several times, when creating these stubs!

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Ingratis (talk) 06:59, 5 April 2024 (UTC)

Referencing

Hello Edgar Aetheling 25. Thank you for the Roman biographies, but you've been asked several times to use proper referencing, and haven't replied yet. Your habit of stuffing all the references down in the reference section is creating unnecessary cleanup work for your fellow editors. Please read Help:Referencing for beginners, which explains how to correctly add references to an article. Thank you. Wikishovel (talk) 08:15, 5 April 2024 (UTC)

Please do address this, before it becomes an "issue"! Also, if you look back at the changes made to your articles you'll see other regular repairs which while not as important as the references you could still usefully pre-empt as you create. Ingratis (talk) 10:03, 5 April 2024 (UTC)p

{{Re|Ingratis}} I will learn referencing before I work on any more articles. Edgar Aetheling 25 (talk) 19:45, 5 April 2024 (UTC)

Lucius Cornelius Lentulus Lupus

Hi Edgar. Thanks for your message. References - you are almost there. What you're doing wrong is adding the tags into the text without including the references themselves, which you're grouping at the end under the References subheading. So for example, the first one is this: ...heir to the [[Seleucid Empire]] from exile.<ref name=":0" />, which refers to the source you've defined at the end: <ref name=":0">Polybius, History, XXXI, 23</ref> This is the wrong way round. What needs to happen is that the reference is spelt out in the text the first time it occurs, thus: ...heir to the [[Seleucid Empire]] from exile.<ref name=":0">Polybius, History, XXXI, 23</ref>. The abbreviated tag<ref name=":0" /> is used thereafter if the same reference is used again in the article. Otherwise the reference will be picked up automatically at {{reflist}}. (By the way, please ignore the <nowiki> tags here - all they do is show the wiki markup text instead of implementing it). I've changed reference 1 only - take a look and tell me if it makes sense now. (this has caused the error messages in red for the other refs to appear - ignore that for now).Ingratis (talk) 18:22, 6 April 2024 (UTC)

I think I sorted out the references? Thanks Edgar Aetheling 25 (talk) 19:51, 6 April 2024 (UTC)

Yes! well done. The only other thing was to mop up the surplus refs and reflist tag at the end, which I've done. I'm delighted to see you've dealt with the sorting as well. There is another thing, however, which is that this article duplicates the existing Lucius Cornelius Lentulus Lupus (consul 156 BC). Ingratis (talk) 20:07, 6 April 2024 (UTC)

Should I do something about the duplicate article? Edgar Aetheling 25 (talk) 20:42, 6 April 2024 (UTC)

Irritating though it is, you should merge yours into it by adding to it those pieces of information in your article that are not already in it, with the references, and then blank and redirect yours to it - see WP:REDIRECT for how to do that. Ingratis (talk) 22:42, 6 April 2024 (UTC)

I have sent you a note about pages you started

Hello, Edgar Aetheling 25. Thank you for your work on Quintus Opimius (consul). Ingratis, while examining these pages as a part of our page curation process, had the following comments:

Thank you for this article. You are almost there with the refs. The only thing wrong was that after ref :0, which was fine, you didn't close the opening ref tags so they didn't display properly at {{reflist}}. If you take a look at the history you'll see what the fix was.

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References

Hey there! One more quick technical note on the references (sorry, I know you've heard no end of this): you don't need to re-list them individually in the references section! The {{reflist}} will do that automatically for you. So, instead of

== References ==

<ref name=":0" /><ref name=":2" /><ref name=":1" />{{Reflist}}

you can just put

== References ==

{{Reflist}}

Take a look at Quintus Calpurnius Piso to see what I mean. Hope this helps!— Moriwen (talk) 15:53, 9 April 2024 (UTC)

Ok, Thank you. I will do that!Edgar Aetheling 25 (talk) 17:10, 9 April 2024 (UTC)

You are still adding references in your usual way, creating extra work for your fellow editors. Please stop. Wikishovel (talk) 06:22, 27 April 2024 (UTC)

Vipsanii and Vipstani

These are two different gentes, please don't change links to Vipstana gens to Vipsania gens like you did on Claudia Marcella Minor. ★Trekker (talk) 23:51, 20 April 2024 (UTC)

Translations?

Hi Edgar. I need to ask whether you are translating your articles from other wikipedias, and if so, which? Ingratis (talk) 10:25, 29 April 2024 (UTC)

Sometimes, yes, I translate articles often from Latin Wikipedia or others if the Latin Wikipedia doesn't have it.Edgar Aetheling 25 (talk) 14:12, 29 April 2024 (UTC)

I have sent you a note about a page you started

Hi Edgar Aetheling 25. Thank you for your work on Flavius Taurus Clementinus Armonius Clementinus. Another editor, SunDawn, has reviewed it as part of new pages patrol and left the following comment:

Good day! Thank you for contributing to Wikipedia by writing this article. I have marked the article as reviewed. Have a wonderful and blessed day for you and your family!

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I have sent you a note about a page you started

Hi Edgar Aetheling 25. Thank you for your work on Gauzlin I of Maine. Another editor, Ingratis, has reviewed it as part of new pages patrol and left the following comment:

Thank you for this article, which I have marked as reviewed. Two points:
(1) great! that is how to do references, i.e., embed them in the text between <ref> / </ref> tags, so well done for that, but I don't understand, to be blunt, why you haven't grasped by now that you don't also need to list them under References at the end. The {{reflist}} template, as been pointed out more than once, has the effect of collecting the inline references between the tags and displaying them: that is its purpose, and you don't need to add anything to that.
(2) Translations from other wikis: I started to approach this subject above, but I've hesitated to go into it further until you have dealt with the referencing problem, which if unresolved is unfortunately likely eventually to cause you serious difficulties. However, since it has come up here, please be aware that if you translate a Wikipedia article in another language, you have to attribute the translation and link back to the original article in an edit summary. See WP:TFOLWP for suggested wording. I have done that here, but your many Roman articles are also translated and they also need attribution. It would be straighforward (though time-consuming) to attribute them if they were all translated from Latin Wikipedia but you said above that they are not, so it would be difficult for me to help, unless you can provide a list of which articles are translations from which Wikipedia: it's probably less work for you to add the attributions yourself (as actually you should!). They do have to be done - please do not just ignore this.
Sorry for the long text - happy to discuss further if you would find it useful.

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Ingratis (talk) 06:32, 11 May 2024 (UTC)

I will resolve those two issues of referencing and translation attribution. Thank you. Edgar Aetheling 25 (talk) 17:21, 11 May 2024 (UTC)

Thanks, Edgar. You seem to be very close with the referencing. The translation attributions can be done gradually - as long as they're done eventually, there is no huge urgency. A suggestion for one way to approach it, if you'd rather not tackle the whole huge backlog, is if you attribute those Roman articles which are not translated from Latin Wikipedia, and I'll then deal with those that are from the Latin Wikipedia - it would save you some dull mechanical work. Let me know if so, but otherwise I'll try not to bother you further. Ingratis (talk) 07:39, 13 May 2024 (UTC)

@Edgar Aetheling 25: Adding on, when you translate, it is imperative that you translate the references as precisely as possible. Ex. according to your current format on Ralph I of the Vexin, the title of the work seems to be "The Counts of Gâtinais in the 10th and 11th centuries in Onomastics and Kinship in the Medieval West," when it is actually "Onomastique et parenté dans l'Occident médiéval".

Do not enter a manually translated title as if it is the actual title. Add it in the |trans-title and leave the original title, in its original language as well. Help:Translation#Translating_references may be of use to you. Thanks, ARandomName123 (talk)^{Ping me!} 00:33, 14 May 2024 (UTC)

Draftified article

I've replied on my talk page. Ingratis (talk) 14:07, 28 May 2024 (UTC)

Thank you. I will deal with that when I have the time. Edgar Aetheling 25 (talk) 14:18, 28 May 2024 (UTC)

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Deletion of content from Radio Yerevan jokes

Wikipedia is not censored. You and I may both find the stereotypes offensive, but the stereotypes were widely used in the jokes and Wikipedia is simply documenting this fact. Jpatokal (talk) 00:11, 18 June 2024 (UTC)

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