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You Get What You Give

No need to add the "composer" credits for Allmusic; those are redundant to the songwriting credits on the tracklist. Also, it's probably best to separate the musicians from the technical. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • (Otters want attention) 17:21, 29 October 2010 (UTC)

November 2010

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Even though they've all been discussed upon? Linkin Park has been like known to be this nu/rap metal band espicially in their first two records and these genres already met a consensus on their respective discussion pages. Give me, the IP adresses and several other editors a break. Discuss your stuff on the talk pages because as far as I'm seeing this multiple people are reverting you. • GunMetal Angel 01:03, 3 November 2010 (UTC)

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True You: A Journey to Finding and Loving Yourself

Hi Gabe, good article creation! Just can't seem to get title in italics... Keep up the good work! Thanks! Best, --Discographer (talk) 08:18, 12 November 2010 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) It's because it's fifty characters long. Yves (talk) 07:23, 24 November 2010 (UTC)

Got 'til it's Gone

stop, I can tell you've never heard a production by J Dilla, or any music by A Tribe Called Quest. Its CLEAR that they produced the record. Everyone in the hip hop community knows this. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kid-Wave123 (talkcontribs) 06:20, 24 November 2010 (UTC)

then leave it as "uncredited" in page like it was before. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kid-Wave123 (talkcontribs) 06:27, 24 November 2010 (UTC)

Basically, Jimmy Jam and Terry Lewis couldn't have made that beat. Q-Tip, Common, and many other rappers (none of them you would know) stated that DILLA is the producer of the record. LISTEN to the music and you would know who the real producers were. Or you could just tell a moderator. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kid-Wave123 (talkcontribs) 06:45, 24 November 2010 (UTC)

Of course he wasn't credited, ever hear of being blackballed out of the industry? Do you know anything about music? I've left the official (false) credits alone, I've left the "contest that they are the producers" alone, but now, leave the reputable source (pitchfork) backing my truth, that Dilla and The Ummah are the original producers, —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kid-Wave123 (talkcontribs) 06:59, 24 November 2010 (UTC)

Why do you sound so angry? I let you have two, let me have one. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kid-Wave123 (talkcontribs) 07:04, 24 November 2010 (UTC)

And the first reference is speaking about the original song, the second is about the remix. He let the music speak for himself and made the record to show everyone what it was about. He died in 2006 of lupus...Please don't deny him of his recognition —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kid-Wave123 (talkcontribs) 07:07, 24 November 2010 (UTC)

Why are you still changing it? Like I said, you're right about them not being officially credited (blackballing), I let you have the "they contested that they were the producers"

Just leave that one alone, its just proof of who most people think produced the record. Are you really that stubborn?..Just leave it —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kid-Wave123 (talkcontribs) 07:15, 24 November 2010 (UTC)

I realize that, but the other reference is about the remix. You're not getting paid for this are you? Then why do this? I'm doing it because I love the music (including Jimmy Jam and Terry Lewis' music, although what they did was wrong they are still great)..Dilla didn't get much credit when he was alive, he did a song for 2Pac that went uncredited, he did a song for Janet that went uncredited, many people stole his style (Kanye, Q-Tip, etc)..he didn't get paid for most of the work he did.

At least give him a little wikipedia page —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kid-Wave123 (talkcontribs) 07:24, 24 November 2010 (UTC)

Read that again

"The revenge in question, then, is simply a matter of cranking up those aforementioned trademarks until the source is unmistakable. The bassline congeals, the keyboards are run through a rippling wah-wah, the titular Joni Mitchell loop fades in and out of focus-- it's the difference between a neon sign and a lava lamp."

Also, I'm out here, in the hip hop world, and that is what everyone says. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kid-Wave123 (talkcontribs) 07:27, 24 November 2010 (UTC)

I'm convinced you know JimmyJam/TerryLewis personally to deny a dead man his proper respect, if not, why are you doing this, do you think hip hop is not real music?. Now you're deleting the official remix part. I've been asking politely, to just leave it alone, if you didn't get where the article said the whole thing about the remix I can break it down for you. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kid-Wave123 (talkcontribs) 07:39, 24 November 2010 (UTC)

Read.

"the original version of "Got 'Til It's Gone" bears all the hallmarks of the Ummah style: neo-soul electric pianos, subdued kicks paired with prominent snares, and bass that burbles so thickly that it flows instead of pops. But the official production credits name Jackson, Jimmy Jam, and Terry Lewis alone.

The revenge in question, then, is simply a matter of cranking up those aforementioned trademarks until the source is unmistakable. The bassline congeals, the keyboards are run through a rippling wah-wah, the titular Joni Mitchell loop fades in and out of focus-- it's the difference between a neon sign and a lava lamp."

Its not that hard to understand. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kid-Wave123 (talkcontribs) 08:01, 24 November 2010 (UTC)

Why do you keep deleting the part where it talks about the official revenge remix Dilla made? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kid-Wave123 (talkcontribs) 08:04, 24 November 2010 (UTC)

I know, I fucked up, we've been at it for 2 hours..What did you expect? Glad its been resolved.

Yes, I'm a crazy hip hop nerd

I got you, lots of music tomorrow for sure. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kid-Wave123 (talkcontribs) 09:51, 24 November 2010 (UTC)

He never worked with anyone as popular as 2pac, Biggie Smalls, or Janet Jackson ever again (besides Kanye) but the songs are still great, and the artists are legends in hip hop, sometimes beyond that too, Leonardo Dicaprio's favorite group ever is A Tribe Called Quest, and Drake, Will.I.Am, Pharrell, and Kanyes favorite producer is Dilla .

He had really bad luck I think, he was supposed to work with N'Sync, Jay-Z, and Nas, but it never happened

Some of them are him rapping, some are just beats with no vocals, but most are just production for others. Their all Youtube links but I can get you DL ones if you want. I left out some more real rap stuff he did, like with the Wu-Tang Clan because I'm not sure if you'd like it.

Its kind of different, so its cool if you're not feeling his stuff

Bilal ft Mos Def & Common - Reminisce

J Dilla - Won't Do

D'angelo - Those Dreamin' Eyes

A Tribe Called Quest - Find A Way

Common ft Bilal - Its Your World

Mos Def & Talib Kweli - History

Slum Village - Fall In Love (instrumental + chorus) - Dilla's on the chorus, theirs also a version with verses in between

The Pharcyde - Runnin'

J Dilla - Two Can Win

J Dilla - Time (theirs also one with Drake called "Where To Now" and one with The Roots called "Can't Stop This")

Common - The Light

Common ft Erykah Badu - The Light (remix)

J Dilla - Nothing Like This (this song is where Kanye got the inspiration for 808s & Heartbreaks, songs like Heartless and Love Lockdown)

J Dilla - Last Donut Of The Night

A Tribe Called Quest ft Consequence and Faith Evans - Stressed Out

2Pac - Do For Love

J Dilla - Stop

J Dilla - Waves

Erykah Badu - Didn't Cha Know

Black Thought (of The Roots) - Reality TV

J Dilla & Common - E=MC2 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kid-Wave123 (talkcontribs) 00:14, 25 November 2010 (UTC)

Re:The Velvet Rope

Hi Gabe, I personally consider certifications and figures found in the Billboard reliable. In my opinion, however, when inserting certifications in a certification table, it's always best to support them directly with the databases of the certifying agencies, but in the case of Denmark, we don't have the luxury of checking certifications prior to January 2001, for Japan, the database begins from 2003 onwards, as for Taiwan, I'm not even sure if they have a database at all. I think you'd be safe to use those certifications found in the Billboard within the article, but you might have editors every now and then questioning them if they are used in the table.--Harout72 (talk) 16:35, 24 November 2010 (UTC)

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Erotica Cover

I reverted to that previous version because of this 1. Ga Be 19 22:31, 11 December 2010 (UTC)

Aha, and it is a consensus, or just personal opinions of people who believes that the PA logo just is useless? Tbh®tchTalk © Happy Holidays 22:32, 11 December 2010 (UTC)
The PA logo must be kept in pages where is relevant to mention it, for example, the first of three Madonna albums which have it. Remember that the logo was created to inform people that the album has explicit material, and we work for the reader, not for other users who dislikes those logos. Tbh®tchTalk © Happy Holidays 22:40, 11 December 2010 (UTC)
I'm not affraid to, I really don't care to join to other users which cannot understand that this is an encyclopedia. AND IT'S NOT A RULE TO NOT USE THE PARENTAL ADVISORY LOGO. Furthermore you said "Maybe you could even join that conversation, not "join the conversation". Tbh®tchTalk © Happy Holidays 01:17, 16 December 2010 (UTC)
I have better thing to do. Tbh®tchTalk © Happy Holidays 01:28, 16 December 2010 (UTC)

Nomination of Reception of country music for deletion

 

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Speedy declined

Hi Gabe19, I have declined your speedy deletion request for Cold Hearted (Hollywood Rose song). Because it is a song by a notable band, it is not eligible for criterion A9. Feel free to nominate the article for AFD or PROD. Cheers, Dabomb87 (talk) 04:38, 26 December 2010 (UTC)

Numbers Ones Tour

Please stop countless reverting images have you have done with the Number Ones: Up Close and Personal for the past week. Image reverts are only used to "enhance" the previous image. As displayed in the description, the poster is a promotional item, stating it is promoting the concert in Hong Kong. Replacing with a blank poster is not a promotional item. Also, you are alluding other Wikipedia users that the poster was obtained from the same sources, etc. Furthermore, replacing an image because you "feel" is not better is not acceptable, your personal opinion is not a o plausible reason in Wikipedia.Itsbydesign (talk)

Hi, Gabe19. The "poster" you are trying to upload appears to be a blank, so I am not certain that it would qualify as an official poster. On the other hand, I do understand your point about the English vs. Chinese text versions of the poster. English is certainly better for the English Wikipedia. I think an upload of this version would be better. Cheers. CactusWriter (talk) 06:40, 7 January 2011 (UTC)

Template deletion

Those both qualify as speedy deletion. I tagged for G2 (test page). Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • (Otters want attention) 22:04, 7 January 2011 (UTC)

List of songs by Taylor Swift

Hello, I created the page List of songs by Taylor Swift without aware/known that the page List of Taylor Swift songs previously nominated for deletion.

The page created by mine has new layout and I really hope that it will be kept, as I will make further improvement to it. Have your say here, thank you. I will notice other users joined above AfD, too. Silvergoat (talkcontrib) 08:39, 8 January 2011 (UTC)

Madonna sales

Madonna sold, according to the brazilian official Warner Records site, over 280 million of albums and over 160 million of singles, totalizing more than 440 million of records. This is a reliable and official source. More reliable than Irish Independent and The Times. Here is the reference: http://www.warnermusic.com.br/portal/wbartisthome.aspx?5 They say in portuguese: 'vendeu mais de 280 milhões de álbuns e 160 milhões de singles no mundo inteiro', what means in english 'she has sold over 280 million of albums and 160 million of singles worldwide'. Her official website reports that she has sold over 275 million of albums up to December 2009. What is her official album sales and very closer to this 280 million. http://www.madonna.com/news/title/madonna-topselling-female-recording-artist

I didn't change it inflating or without sources. I think the most reliable source is an official source. In this 'best selling artists' list there's a lot of unreliable sources. But in this case, it's too obviously that Warner has the right information.

But I'm not arguing, just tried to clarify things. I'll not change it again, but I really think the sources should be official sources.

Max Liron (talk) 00:06, 9 January 2011 (UTC)

Number Ones Tour

Keep it up and you will be blocked, last warning Itsbydesign (talk) 06:53, 11 January 2011 (UTC)

Gabe, raise an ANI against him, giving a thorough difference of this heiffer's disruptions, unwilling to discuss the changes, and continuous reverting. Mind you, you yourself might be accused of 3RR. — Legolas (talk2me) 07:02, 11 January 2011 (UTC)

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Dolly Parton discography

I've started a suggestion thread here. Please leave your opinion.   EnDaLeCoMpLeX (contributions) • (let's chat) 01:51, 13 January 2011 (UTC)

Alone

Its premature; a lot can happen to change that before it actually gets released. "A Little Bit Stronger" is at #27 right now and its probably going to keep climbing for another 3 months or longer. Around the time its done as a single is when the follow-up will be announced. For one thing, its not ultimately her decision in the end either; the label might want something else, and since it'll be the summer months and she's already released a ballad, there's a possibility they won't go with another ballad. This album was supposed to come out in late 2009 and FJLALS was intended as its lead single; we see here that things change, and there's already been some uncertainty about this album & its releases in the past. According to Sara Evans, "Alone" will be the third single, so that would mean it won't even be the next single, since only one single has come from the album thus far. CloversMallRat (talk) 00:38, 15 January 2011 (UTC)

For Those About to Rock images

I see, you're one of those who remove an image because it fails some minutiae of semi-legal drivel, despite the fact that it's been there a year and nobody has ever raised an eyebrow at it. It may not show an explicitly different image, but it shows a different cover. Your interpretation of the main picture "displaying equivalent significant information" leads you to think that the image holds no value for anyone else, and the hideous danger of the massive legal action that could ensue means we have to delete it. Or you could just leave it as it is because it shows a different cover, one which is a comparatively rare sight and a point of interest not fully displayed by text, and is doing no harm whatsoever. You know best. Bretonbanquet (talk) 15:36, 16 January 2011 (UTC)

I've been on Wikipedia for over five years, and like everywhere else in the world, respect is to be earned. I'm well aware that there are editors, and you are one of them, who delete something not because it detracts from an article, but because they've found something in the rules that backs them up and they are able to do it. You could have left it there, but you want to delete it because you can. There's nothing in that guideline that actually defines what kind of image stays and what kind of image goes. There is no concrete wording in it - typical Wikipedia pseudo-legalese. You have decided that because it's simply a matter of reversed colours, that it should go. That's your interpretation of a vague policy. You're not even consistent in it because you edited the Black Ice (album) image without deleting three extra covers that differed solely in the colour of their logos. So you follow the rules as it suits you. It's not a question of a lack of respect, it's about there being different kinds of editors, and it's dispiriting to encounter those who edit in this way. Bretonbanquet (talk) 12:26, 17 January 2011 (UTC)

This is Country Music

"Is" is capitalized in titles. See MOS:CAPS#Composition_titles, which says "…every adjective, adverb, noun, pronoun and verb. This includes all forms of the verb to be (be, am, is, are, was, were, been)." Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • (Otters want attention) 06:26, 11 March 2011 (UTC)

I might think you are awesome!! And full 0F Shit too? But in reality? I am late to meet my BESTEST GFRIEND WHO IS COUNTING ON ME AT THIS SECOND!....IF IT IS THE ONE WHO WROTE GOLDEN SLUMBERS AGAIN N AGAIN N AGAIN? i AM HERE...AND IF NOT? i AM WATCHING YOU! XOXOO GOD BLESS U BB HUGSU ALWAYS N ALL WAYS!! WORD

SAY WHAT????? — Gabe 19 (talk contribs) 04:29, 1 May 2011 (UTC)

Talk:List of best-selling music artists

Hi Gabe, I wanted to be clear about this edit that you made. Did you mean to say that the list is already correct and there is no need to discuss the matter? Or the other way around? I'm asking this because the editor who started that discussion commented after your edit thinking you meant that the list needs to be corrected.--Harout72 (talk) 15:30, 17 May 2011 (UTC)

May 2011

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List of fastest selling albums worldwide

I am not sure why you had nominated the page for speedy deletion; it's neither incoherent, nor a blatant hoax. (In fact, it cites multiple references.) If you believe the page should be deleted, please use the regular deletion process, and give a more detailed reason why the article is inappropriate. - Mike Rosoft (talk) 18:07, 22 May 2011 (UTC)

Excuse me...

It's not me who is making "improvements" to the article! I am reverting them because the song is NOT notable! The person who i left a message for keeps making edits to the page. It is NOT a single. Yes it is a promo single, but there is NOT enough info to make a notable article out of it. The article needs to be deleted or at least incubated. calvin999 (talk) 19:02, 27 May 2011 (UTC)

Ah good. It looked like it was aimed at me as it was indented after my comment. It would have been better if you had of specifically stated his name! calvin999 (talk) 19:08, 27 May 2011 (UTC)
loool ok. i jump on the bandwagon was too easily! haha calvin999 (talk) 19:47, 27 May 2011 (UTC)
haaa, i jump on the bandwagon too easily?  ;) calvin999 (talk) 20:06, 27 May 2011 (UTC)

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Nomination for deletion of Template:Easton Corbin

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Better source request for File:Baby One More Time.jpg

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