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Dear Ganesh,

Today you visited Bishnupriya Manipuri Wiki, and left a question for me that how did I translate 5000 Indian Cities in a short time? First of all I would like to thank you and your script. I was trying to contact with you and left a few lines at Ganeshbot/Requests page (22:52, 26 October 2006 (hist) (diff) User:Ganeshbot/Requests (→Requests for template substitution, replacement, or addition)) for your suggestion and help. Since then no response and page also move to archive or deleted.

Anyway, using your script, I created almost 80% of the Indian city within a month. I translate the database file 1 state at a time just using Windows Notepad, Avro Keybord (UniBijoy). I hope I will finish by next week.

I thank you again, and also I thank Ragib (from Bangla + English wiki) for his help and tips.

--Usingha 04:55, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

Please stop messaging me

I want you to stop messaging me.I made a small mistake on my user page.That's all.It's not like I don't know how to use it,but thanks anyway.Nadirali 19:25, 29 November 2006 (UTC)Nadirali

I might need some help

Wikipedia:Help_desk#Blocking_a_user He's trying to block me.--D-Boy 05:21, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

ok. thanks for the info.--D-Boy 06:03, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

Re: Barnstar

Thanks! I plan to grow to as helpful as you are some day :) Thanks again, appreciates. AQu01rius (User • Talk) 07:13, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

Tamil people in FAR

Hello Ganesh. Tamil people has been brought to FAR. Please be there and comment. Regards.--Dwaipayan (talk) 15:42, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

Thanks

I will have a look but geograhical locations do not interest me generally. You are doing great work. Carry on! -- Seejee 00:44, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

India

This is interesting...someone's been trying to make those changes for a few days now: Special:Contributions/MichaelWolfgang. When I reverted it the first time, I sent a polite note telling him to take it up on the talk page. -- Jim Douglas ^(talk) _(contribs) 03:48, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

Ahh, I didn't realize it had been going on so long. The one I reverted was more elaborate, like the guy's trying to make some sort of POV point that India was a nation long before 1947. Thanks for sending that older diff; if I see something like this again, I'll just go ahead and revert it as simple vandalism. -- Jim Douglas ^(talk) _(contribs) 04:05, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

Template:WP SouthAsia

Why did you block a template which I created and intended to expand? There is no rational point in blocking Template:WP SouthAsia. I want it unblocked and as I have decided to agree to keep current picture for the time being. Szhaider 12:28, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

Re:Please stop removing project tags

Where is that so-called discussion you talk about. I created South Asia tag to REPLACE India tags in those articles which are NOT about present day India. Tagging Pakistan related articles with Ashok Chakkar and calling the entire region India, which is now completely worng, is outrageous and offensive to the Pakistani Wikipedians. Ashok Chakkar is same as Indian flag and reflects favourism for a relogion, i.e. Hinduism which I think is against NPOV. Now using the map of entire region and saying this article is about India; well it is outright outrageous and completely unacceptable. You as an administrator should stay away from this on going dispute as your Indian background is making you take sides against me. Szhaider 18:30, 1 December 2006 (UTC) Shzhaider speaks for all of us.Adding Indian refference or tags to any Pakistani-related articles is indeed an offence to Pakistani wikipedians.My suspicion was that your Indian background in taking sides against Pakistani users which clearly violates the NPOV policy here on wikipedia.My suspicion to Shzhaiders claims are only confirmed when you threatened to report him to the board while simply begging a fellow Indian wikipedian not to remove tags.My best solution is to let a non-south asian wikipedian handle this dispute if wikipedia is to stay neutral and not be corrupted.Nadirali 21:17, 4 December 2006 (UTC)Nadirali

What you think is favoritism is not favoritism. Its merely the facts. Pakistani history dates back to the 1930's. No one cares what Pakistani wikipedians think about India, its how documented phenomenon characterize the region. Ganeshk is not trying to be neutral, though he is trying to work a compromise.Bakaman _Bakatalk 04:06, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

Ganesh, do you see a pattern here? Compare this rant to the rant above. I'm starting to connect the dots.Bakaman _Bakatalk 04:06, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

Talk:Taxila`

guess your template change wasn't neutral enough.--D-Boy 19:02, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

How neutral do you want it to be? Szhaider 19:52, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

New Article help wanted

Hi Ganesh, I have created a new article titled Punch Dialogue as per some mentions in the film actor Wiki pages. I would like to ask for help as to how to invite people to edit it. Kindly suggest ways. Thanks Sudharsansn (talk • contribs) 19:16, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

Hi Ganesh, thanks for your cat work, it looks all the more crisp now. I will try to add images as per your suggestion. Thanks Sudharsansn (talk • contribs) 09:02, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

script box

Do you think you could start work on a script box for indic scripts? Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style_(Korea-related_articles)#Korean_templates is a good reference. The discussion seems to be headed to proposal 3.--D-Boy 04:09, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

I think the languages you should put for now are Bengali, Tamil, Malayam, Kannada, and of course Hindi. Maybe marathi if you want to squeeze it in. The sikh project mostly takes care of the punjabi. Those 5 should get in a good range of east, west , north and south like the cardinal directions of the 4 heavenly kings.--D-Boy 07:14, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

Also, can you put in the indic manual of style like the korean one. I really think we should start this because we're always having these edit wars.--D-Boy 07:15, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

Oh, you're going to do it like we did for the hindudiety box, where the type the name of the script and the script?--D-Boy 07:20, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

I see.--D-Boy 07:26, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

support for removing the Indus from the "History Of India" page

Ganeshk,I want to express my full support for Shzhaider,regarding the removal of the indus from the History of India page to either the page user:Szhaider has created or move it to the History of Pakistan page(prefferred). If you plan to report this dispute to the administrators notice board,then I want the board members in charge of resolving this dispute to know that he still will recieve my full support.Adding refference of the indus to the India history page is an offence to us Pakistani wikipedians as Szhaider claims.Nadirali 06:40, 2 December 2006 (UTC)Nadirali

...Removal of indus from History of India....

What are you talking about? I suggest you go back and read through my conversations with Szhaider. -- Ganeshk (talk) 06:49, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

I'm sorry. this is just too funny. XD--D-Boy 06:50, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

Did Ganeshk ever discuss this dispute. No way. He just strated to support this indian bunch in every way he could and became a part of the dispute. Szhaider 18:27, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

Szhaider, I think Nadirali is confusing the IVC issue in article content with my discussion with you on the talk page tagging. The IVC issue should be addressed after discussions on History of India page. I was not part of any such discussion. The talk page tagging issue was discussed at the Indian notice board (under section template logo), I would suggest you and Nadirali read through that link. Nichalp has explained why history should be part of the scope of the regional projects. Please comment over there if you have any objections. Regards, Ganeshk (talk) 19:46, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

For reference - ...,I want to add full support for your edit wars...

Reply - and that's nothing compared to retroactively falsely creating a "Pakistani history"? Harappa has nothing to do with the ISlamic Republic of Pakistan except for the fact that it lies in the geographic boundaries of the country. Pakistan had no history before 1947.Bakaman 23:12, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

Dont confuse the people of Pakistan or their ancestors with Islam.Pakistani history predates Islam and goes all the way back to thousands of years BCE.Just as Iraqi history predates Islam and can be traced to the Babylonian times.Nadirali 21:08, 4 December 2006 (UTC)Nadirali

Indian history project

I think this issue was once raised in the talk page of Muhammad Iqbal while discussing about whether to call him an "Indian" poet. Check with Rama's Arrow. (I don't have proper internet access for trhe next few weeks.) -- Sundar ^{\talk \contribs} 10:21, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

By the way, can you please set up Werdnabot for my talkpage? I'll be mostly away in the next few weeks and only partially available later on. May be, I should add separate desks for copyedit requests, policy comment requests, etc., to my talkpage. -- Sundar ^{\talk \contribs} 10:26, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

Dear Sir any historical discussion on India has to be based India before partition.That is inevitable.

V.kothanda Raman

Re:Scope of India project

I have replied on the Indian noticeboard. =Nichalp «Talk»= 11:10, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

Name table

Hi Ganeshk,

Dangerous-Boy mentioned that you were working on an Indian name table, so I wanted to let you know that I mocked one up at User:Visviva/Test. Please feel free to use any of the ideas there, or not, as you see fit. The one I made needs more work -- and almost certainly more languages -- but you'd know better than I exactly what is needed. Cheers, -- Visviva 16:33, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

Talk on Kulpahar Page

Thanx for ur prompt reply......actually what I got from district statistical cell depicted the same figure for whole of the district...I have only one objection about the google map...y did u remove the link to kulpahar map on google map?? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Rohit klar (talk • contribs) 17:49, 2 December 2006.

India Article

Please see the citations for the adding. It was taken from the Ayyavazhi article and the sources are University Papers. See that 8000 worship centers for Ayyavazhi through out South India. It may definitely more than that of the numbers of Zorastrians and Jews in india. - 61.1.210.227 23:31, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

University papers are not doing? Please see the citations i cited earlier. Those two are from Two leading university's publications. One from Madras University and Other from Madurai kamaraj university. How are you objecting it? - 61.1.210.227 23:37, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

Also Iam bringing in again the foot note related to the Univ Papers you deleted. Isn't it important there? - 61.1.210.227 23:49, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

But as per Wiki policies University papers are considered valid sources. Also if you've gone through previous discussion please see the page of Ayyavazhi for the citation. The sources are all LMS Reports, University Papers, or Historians whose are view points from valid neutral poles, except for belief related things. Also three dists in Tamil Nadu are declared Holiday for an Ayyavazhi festival. It shows that definitly Ayyavazhi followers are more than that of Zorastrians, jews etc in India which are already mentioned in the INdia article. - 61.1.210.227 00:02, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

reply

Since theres no such thing as "Pakistani history" my removing the tags is justified. I dont care what two POV-pushers will do or not do about it. If they accuse me of being an Indian nationalist, I am one of the more active members on WikiProject Bangladesh where we have no problems between West Bengali, non-Bengali, and Bangladeshi editors. Many Pakistani editors engage in removing "Indian imperialism" and "Bengali traitor propaganda", and I merely undo their bad faith vandalism. Putting a Pakistani flag on ancient Hindu cities makes no sense.Bakaman 23:43, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

Putting a Pakistani flag on ancient Hindu sites makes no more sense than putting any refference to India or Indian tags in Pakistan's history page.I too question the diversity of wikipedian adminitrators.Nadirali 21:01, 4 December 2006 (UTC)Nadirali

I think pakistani history started a little before 1947 with the indepence movement. that's when it was created. I also find that extremely "offensive". pakistan definitely did not exist back then as far as the indus valley civilizations are concerned.--D-Boy 01:51, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

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Question about statistics table

Hi Ganesh, I think you were asked something like this before. I see 10 unassessed Top Importance articles. How do I access them? Shouldnt the number 10 be wikilinked or something? — Lost^(talk) 12:17, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

I have fixed the problem at hand by adding new cats to the template. BTW, would it break the Mathbot's functioning if we wikilink the stats to the relevant cats? Or can we program the mathbot itself to Wikilink it? — Ambuj Saxena (talk) 15:49, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

Mathbot over-writes the stats-page everyday. Any changes to it will be lost. I requested Mathbot to link the categories to the numbers. But there were no takers for the idea. They wanted me to use Wikipedia:Version_1.0_Editorial_Team/India_articles_by_quality/1 for that purpose. It is a page that lists articles sorted by quality and importance. That is a tedious way of accessing the information I need. When other projects see the need, may be they will wikilink the cats. Who knows? Till then we just need to get the cats manually. Regards, Ganeshk (talk) 17:59, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

Lost, Answer to your question is Category:Unassessed_India_articles_of_Top-importance, that Ambuj created. Regards, Ganeshk (talk) 18:02, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

Thanks Ganesh and Ambuj. — Lost^(talk) 07:07, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

Plugin

Ganesh, Kingboy has added support for the India project. I did a small trial run last night. Seems to run fine, but he's added some features. Will ask on the plugin talk page. Also can you do a run as soon as you are back from the break and give feedback — Lost^(talk) 07:06, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for setting the bot up, Ganesh. The default settings are fine with me; I'll change them if needed. -- Sundar ^{\talk \contribs} 11:49, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

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Hi. I need a bit of help from you regarding Carnatic music. There are a couple of editors User:Srkris and User:Sarvagnya who seem to be dead against a paragraph in this article. The paragraph is exactly seven sentences long and almost every sentence is cited, some of them from multiple sources. This paragraph is infact has the highest number of citation in the entire article. There is nothing controversial about the paragraph either. However these users seem to have a POV against this paragraph. I haven't received any vaild reasons for the deletion apart from vaguely labelling them 'fake', 'rubbish', 'half truth', 'impretinent', etc. I'm tired of this. BTW Srkris got blocked for a week for his violations of policy. I haven't heard any explanations from the other users as yet. Can you please help dealing with these users? thanks Parthi ^{talk/contribs} 06:01, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

Rani Mukherjee and Shah Rukh Khan

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Formation of India in Infobox & framing of 'Expelling'

Dear Ganeshk,

There is a fierce discussion going on in the India page with Fowler&fowler trying to impose eurocentric views on words such as "Colony" and removing "Formation" info from the India Infobox. I request you to put in your comments supporting the removal of the sentence "Colonised as ..." and reframing it to "India emerged as a...expelled the non-natives...single nation-state". I also request your support for the Formation info in the infobox. Additionally I also request your support that references need not be necessary all the time (as all references contain eurocentric terms).

An Indic page should contain non-nationalistic Indic views only, and not eurocentric views.

Regards, Himalayanashoka 07:01, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

Proposal for "how to get started" bots page - your opinions?

I think there is confusion on how to go about starting a bot (eg here and here) and there is no wikipage covering this, the main bot page talks only about policy, not avenues for getting started, how to make a bot etc. I have made a suggestion that a howto page be established and, as a frequent editor helping out with bots, I would appreciate your comments. Many Thanks - PocklingtonDan 07:51, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

Machilipatnam Ante Abhimanam

generally people say Bandaru picchodu.yes its true.We the people from machilipatnam are always affectionate towards our home town.Missing Machilipatnam is really hard. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 221.134.109.219 (talk) 17:31, 9 December 2006 (UTC).

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Thanks for the support. I am quite enthusiastic about this wikipedia project. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Nadesai (talk • contribs) 19:54, 11 December 2006 (UTC).

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WP hindu template parameter

Wikipedia:WikiProject Saivism is finally seeing some activity. I was wondering if you could add a parameter in the template for it.--D-Boy 10:13, 19 December 2006 (UTC)

to be honest, i don't really know.--D-Boy 05:23, 20 December 2006 (UTC)

Will you kindly have a look at my comments of the day on Hinduism?

Will you kindly have a look at my comments of the day on Hinduism? swadhyayee 13:37, 19 December 2006 (UTC)

need sum info plz help

hello u started this rahon topic. i want to know if u can help me getting sum info about this place ....do u live here ??or sumone else who can help me ..?? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Info 69 (talk • contribs) 00:58, 20 December 2006 (UTC).

Re:Plugin

Ok.. It runs quite well for me. I finished Category:Politics of India already. — Lost^(talk) 11:31, 20 December 2006 (UTC)

Re:

Thanks for the reply. I dont know python at all. However, I can learn a few things required for the bot operation. Plus, I was thinking of creating a Babelfish like software for Indic languages (as most of the grammar and syntax of these languages are derived from Sanskrit and hence are similar) so that an article created in, say Nepal Bhasa can be directly converted to Bhojpuri or Pali. Can you help me with this as well? --Eukesh 16:48, 20 December 2006 (UTC)

Abt e-mail

Sorry, I could not get your e-mail address. There was an error. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Eukesh (talk • contribs) 18:05, 20 December 2006.. -- Ganeshk (talk) 18:32, 20 December 2006 (UTC)

Bogus warning messages in my Talk page

Hi. User:Ncmvocalist, with whom I have a dispute in the Carnatic music article, insists on leaving NPA and Civil warnings in my Talk poage with no evidence. Can you please review this and remove these warning if you deem them inappropriate. You may also want to see this regarding this matter. Thanks Parthi ^{talk/contribs} 00:41, 21 December 2006 (UTC)

Hi Ganesh, with regard to the above (and below), this may provide a little more context behind the warnings he received from me:

The user, having agreed less than 10 days ago, indirectly agreed that the article talk page isn't the place to make personal attacks [[1]], chose to make unnecessary remarks about other users (i.e. me in this case) [[[[2]], rather than simply asking for comment on content. Further to this, he has made an incivil remark (a personal attack seeing my name was mentioned before this) and failed to assume good faith in saying that it is blatant anti-tamil POV and bias. Prior to 11 December, not just on the Carnatic music talk page, but also on other pages, he has made remarks that are incivil or constitute personal attacks.

As was said by him in the first link I provided, warnings(templates) were left on his page for his violations (by me), and this isn't the first time he has made a string of personal attacks or incivil remarks, and been warned. Ncmvocalist 02:26, 21 December 2006 (UTC)

Hi Ganesh, while you are reviewing the above, if you have time, I would very much appreciate a sanity check on my interactions. [3],

[4], [5], [6], [7], [8], [9], [10], [11], [12], [13], [14], [15], [16], [17], [18]. Thanks. (Unfortunately, these diffs do not show the behaviors to which I was responding. If you are interested, I can provide them as well, but I am mostly interested in feedback about my own comments). Sincerely --BostonMA ^talk 01:40, 21 December 2006 (UTC)

I feel there is a lot of tit-for-tat tagging of warning templates. The warning templates help make users aware of the policies. I feel Venu and Ncm are established users and don't need to be educated of policies here. I would suggest you two to cool down and stop placing talk-warnings. Please assume AGF and discuss and work-out content issues.

Boston, I feel you are right in removing these templates. I am going to do the same. Regards, Ganeshk (talk) 03:43, 22 December 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for your involvement and your feedback. Sincerely, --BostonMA ^talk 01:04, 24 December 2006 (UTC)

Template Parameter

Namaste Ganeshk. Could you please set the small parameter for the templates on the Pashtun talk page to reduce clutter? Your help will be appreciated. Thanks, Anupam^Talk 05:53, 22 December 2006 (UTC)

It's done. Regards, Ganeshk (talk) 06:58, 22 December 2006 (UTC)

Thanks Ganeshk. Your help is very much appreciated. However, the new look pushes one of the flags to the bottom on this template. Could you please fix this? I attempted to use <br> tags to correct the problem but the template distorts when the small parameter is applied. Your expertise would be appreciated. With regards, Anupam^Talk 21:58, 1 January 2007 (UTC)

nayanar

I noticed you were a Tamil speaking admin. I have been working on translating all 63 Nayanar pages (including some not on en wiki) into Hindi. Right now I have three pages created (Thirunavukarasar, Manikavasagar, and Kotpuli) For organization I created Category:Nayanar saints (and the Hindi counterpart), could you point me to any other en-wiki saints that I may have missed? Kingrom_T 02:32, 23 December 2006 (UTC)

Did you check out Alvars? You should talk to User:Sundar on this subject. He will have better idea on this subject. Regards, Ganeshk (talk) 05:44, 23 December 2006 (UTC)

He helped me out. We now have more articles on Nayanar on Hindi wiki than we do on Tamil and English wiki.Kingrom^T 00:12, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

Merry Christmas!

In Him was life, and that life was the Light of men. John 1:4 KJV

Dear Ganeshk,
Love came to a stable on that very special night to bring us out of darkness into His glorious light. May Jesus touch your life with gladness and warm your heart with love as we celebrate His birth. I hope you have a Blessed Christmas, Anupam^Talk 06:14, 23 December 2006 (UTC)

Re:IIPM

Hey, Ganesh, I was the admin who processed your request for semi-protection for IIPM. Another user cannot edit the page and asked me if I could unprotect the page. He also says he was the one who originally asked for semi-protection, and I just wanted to run this by you. Do you think I should unprotect for 3 days so the user will be allowed to edit, or should I just tell him to wait until the 26th and then he will be allowed to freely edit the page? Thanks for your insight. By the way, the whole conversation at my talk page. See User talk:Nishkid64#IIPM Edit Protect. Nishkid64 18:14, 23 December 2006 (UTC)

Woah. Apparently there was a whole discussion going on at WP:RFPP about this. See [19]. Nishkid64 18:25, 23 December 2006 (UTC)

Please stop the India-bot

This is ridiculous. Adding the India banner to thousands of talk pages, by bot, is nationalistic aggression. Please stop. Zora 00:29, 24 December 2006 (UTC)

Dont let racists get in the way of bettering the 'pedia. You got my support Ganesh.Bakaman 17:16, 24 December 2006 (UTC)

IIPM Controversy

Ganesh ji The IIPM Controversy section is clearly not in line with Wikipedia:Verfiability and Wikipedia: NPOV. Please can you suggest to me how we can improve this>? Iipmstudent9 05:33, 25 December 2006 (UTC)

Perhaps we need to talk on Gmail. — Nearly Headless Nick 08:42, 25 December 2006 (UTC)

Your message to Nishkid

Thanks Ganesh for the message to Nishkid. You perhaps conveniently forget that I was the one reverting back to "your" versions (that is Deepak Shenoy's versions) when the vandals starting attacking. I have also read the issue of your personal award to Deepak Shenoy and your personal affiliations with supporting the IIPM Controversy section. You might not at all appreciate my statements to you on this, but I quote from the person whom you gave the barnstar award for adhering to NPOV and for keeping the IIPM controversy alive. When I told Deepak Shenoy that people should not be reverting illogically, guess what he told me... The following is quoted from the trancripts of Deepak Shenoy's discussions with me when he attempted to steamroll me into consenting throwing off your admin powers to me:

• "Mrinal, Reverting is not a right only to existing editors of an article, it can be exercised by anyone. Let's all work on the assumption that we are mature people, and that anyone who wants to edit or change can do so. Do not put arbitrary restrictions - I don't even know if you are Mrinal or you are someone pretending to be Mrinal because you do not login here. Ganesh is a Wikipedia admin, by the way. Deepakshenoy 13:02, 21 December 2006 (UTC)"

Ganesh, if you are an administrator, who is also editing pages at IIPM, I do not believe that you should allow users like Deepak Shenoy to show off his personal closeness to you and to literally frighten other editors into acceptance. Kindly give the correct view to Nishkid. I'll be highly grateful if you also advise me on whether I'm wrong in assuming what I have assumed. Regards, Mrinal Mrinal Pandey 12:11, 25 December 2006 (UTC)

Administrative conflict of interest in the case of Ganesh, an administrator and an editor on this site

I'm copying part of my message to you that I've left at the IIPM talk page. This is just for your information.

• Thanks Ganesh. The reason I focused on fixing your spelling and grammar, was because I took offence to being told that I was accusing "established editors and administrators". Neither is Deepak any more "established" than a normal Wikipedia dabbler; nor are you, and more so in matters of English; and 'English', mind it, which forms the basis of Wikipedia. As Wikipedia confirms, we're not striving for perfection. Ergo, I do not expect your English to be perfect; and it is not, you make unbelievable subject-object, composition, modifying verb et al errors (and not just once, your statements do have many of those). It proves to me that to become an administator, one needs to be focused on following ethical guidelines of editing, and not necessarily on getting one's English appropriately conjectured. I find a clear conflict of interest in your continuing editing on this page, at the same time holding administrative responsibilities, at the same time awarding another editor for ensuring that he has kept controversial details alive on the page. I do not mind controversial details being discussed by editors. But I object to those being discussed by administrators with extra powers; even if they might not finally use their extra power openly. But you did use your powers indirectly. For information, instead of directing Deepak Shenoy to (file a request to) block the page, you chose yourself to write to Nishkid. And when you did message Nishkid to block the page, you did not message as an editor (which you could have). You deliberately told him you were an administrator (thus confirming your status) and requested him twice to block the page, which he, after a couple of days, did. His response must have been more positive because you are an administrator. Therefore, I put in a formal statement out here to request you to kindly not continue editing on this page or using your administrative capacities on this page. Ganesh, there is a clear and evident conflict of interest in your actions. If you agree, I shall not lodge a formal complaint. If you do wish to continue editing, I shall lodge a formal complaint and also let everybody in the Wikipedia community know such a conflict exists blatantly. I'll await your resonse. Regards, Mrinal Mrinal Pandey 03:05, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

Reply from HighBC's to user Mrinal's message

Dear HighBc, I noticed you had commented recently on a wiki site of IIPM. I wished to find out from you how to complain against a wiki administrator who, I have reasons and proof to believe, is misusing his powers to support one particular editor. If you can kindly show me the appropriate forum, I'll lodge a complaint against the administrator. I searched wiki and have not been able to find a link for the same. You could perhaps also go to the discussions page on the IIPM site to see my viewpoints regarding this. Regards, Mrinal Mrinal Pandey 12:27, 25 December 2006 (UTC)

The admin's talk page is the best place to deal with this. Failing that you can post at WP:AN/I, however please have all of your evidence ready when you post there, and be sure you have already attempted to resolve this matter directly. HighInBC ^{(Need help? Ask me)} 19:50, 26 December 2006 (UTC)

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Re:ANI discussion

Hi Ganesh, I had created a new subsection on ANI to bring some clarity on the topic at hand. But the discussion again turned to history of Pakistan and India without any inputs on the actual topic. How do you suggest we move ahead on this? Should we take it up on another forum? — Lost^(talk) 08:59, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

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User:Asprakash changes needs to be reverted in TN article

I read over TN article yesterday, and it was of fair quality. But recent changes by User:Asprakash in my opinion has decreased the quality. He/she has removed entire section about education and put up a meaningless list.

Previously the article was slighly pro Tamil nationlistic, but recent changes are just some agenda driven. The agenda seems to be some pan Indian identity. Why is a subject heading such as Racial concepts is necessary in an article about Tamil Nadu? Also, bombarding the reader with economic statistics is simply not good writing? I can go on.

I am not familiar with all those involved in editing this article, thus I do not want to make any bold changes or get into a cat fight. Please, take note and revert to an acceptable condition. I would say the last time I edited (minor changes ex: tamil -> Tamil), the article was in fair condition. There has been some other edits as well.

Thanks. --Natkeeran 16:43, 28 December 2006 (UTC)

Thanks Ganeshk.--Natkeeran 23:12, 28 December 2006 (UTC)

Asprakash vandalized Mani Shankar Aiyar as well. He accused me of defaming him.Bakaman 20:42, 28 December 2006 (UTC)

Help in Nellore topic

Trueindian user is bringing all the POV subject back to nellore article. What is the proper thing to do and how can you help? Mlpkr 18:21, 28 December 2006 (UTC)

Please help me in Nellore topic. He is simply replacing entire article with an old version that has lot of original research, personal opinionions and even poetic expressions. I had recently converted entire article into the style given in WP:INCITIES and WP:INDIST. I replied to him on talk and discussion pages many times. Is there a forum I can present this or can you help me educating him? Mlpkr 18:44, 11 January 2007 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for the invite Ganeshk. I'll try and help whenever and wherever I can. (^_^)deejaylobo 05:34, 29 December 2006 (UTC)Deejaylobo

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Sockpuppet?

Hey Ganeshk, please check [20]. Regards, deeptrivia (talk) 01:38, 30 December 2006 (UTC)

Shilpa Shetty

Hey Ganesh, just giving you a heads-up - The Shilpa Shetty article could probably do with a spring-clean as she is reported to be appearing on Celebrity Big Brother 2007 soon. I've cleaned it already as best as I could, including references and stuff, but these things always need expansion. I'll be keeping a heads-up in the media also for reliable info to go in this article. Hope you're well. Ekantik ^talk 04:07, 31 December 2006 (UTC)

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What's up with fair use images nowadays?

I noticed that there is considerable heated discussion at Wikipedia Talk:Fair use and images of living celebrities like Image:M karunanidhi 20060526.jpg are considered "replaceable fair use" (also see Template talk:AutoReplaceable fair use -- it looks like such templates are used by Special:Upload to nip such images in the bud). Do you know anything about what is going on? How are we to get a free (as in "freedom" of course) image of a celebrity? -- Paddu 17:49, 1 January 2007 (UTC)

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About Nellore again

Ganesh, Sorry for taking your time. Anonymous users are bringing back POV information again. Those users are seeming like people either who suffered from corruption in medical field or who strongly believes in it, but it is still personal opinion and also deviates from the main topic. What is the right thing to do? I reverted few times earlier and am tired. Mlpkr 18:52, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

Ganeshbot

Hi Ganesh, after the discussion on ANI died down, I approached Zora on her page. See this and this. She replied first time but since she hasnt shown interest after my three subsequent replies, I am assuming in good faith that her objections have been taken care of. I have unblocked Ganeshbot and will be going ahead with tagging myself. — Lost^(talk) 08:42, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

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Hi, I am writing about the user, Himalayanashoka, who was blocked for 48 hours last night for a 3RR violation. This user has a long history of vandalism and sockpuppetry on the India page. Well, this morning I noticed that 3 new users had appeared who seemed to be making the same kind of edits and writing in the same quaint style. These are: HomzUmrigar , Shyamasundara Vetrivel and MazharUbaid. Two of these user pages were created this morning and the third on December 30 (perhaps in anticipation of the battle). They are all making the kind of bold edits that beginners seldom make. Thought I'd let you know. I have also written to admin William Connolly who blocked him last night. Don't know what to do with this guy (these guys?). Perhaps it is time to protect the India page. Fowler&fowler«Talk» 16:20, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

Serious issues in India lead

Hi Ganeshk,

Introducing myself. Though I am a silent reader and look forward to clean up grammatic mistakes in interesting pages because of my journalistic background. Was 'naturally' going through the India page (no contribution as yet) and saw the various versions (I hope I am right in the using the word version). The lead written by Chanakyathegreat, NobleEagle, IndianStar was really good, accurate and presented a very balanced view about the country. However, it has been reverted by you to an older version which from my point of view does not give a true picture about India.

Since you are a senior member here, would request you to look into it and sort it out so that the page reads better.

Rakesh85barua 03:59, 5 January 2007 (UTC)

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Regarding Images to Indian Article

W.r.t discussions regarding adding images to Indian article, Discussions in Talk:India and Talk pages of mine and Chanakya shows that people favour adding those images. I will improve demography image further based on feedback from people so that it won't clutter with article contents.(I will resubmit in Talk pages after improvement).I will add other images to the articles. Is there any additional suggestions from your end?--Indianstar 15:09, 5 January 2007 (UTC)

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Tanjavur Nayaks

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I saw you thank you note for the article on Tanjavur Nayaks.Thank you for the message.I also need some pictures for the site.It would be great if you can provide that.Also in recent weeks I have expanded the paragraph on one of the Kings,later may be the others too and I also mught be adding to their Prime Minister Govinga Dikshidar.Also in the Aravidu Dynasty,of Vijayanagara empire has lot of referances.I am alos planning another page on Gingee Nayaksbut information on them is liek extremely scarce.Hope you can help or start if you are intrested in 17th century history of Tamil Nadu.

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Project News Usage of Vernacular scripts: Following extensive description at Wikipedia:Village pump (policy) archived here regarding inclusion criteria for vernacular scripts in Indian biographies, Wikipedia:Vernacular scripts was set up to formulate usage guidelines. However, discussion appears to have dissipated without a conclusive result. Project tagging:After a brief edit war over the addition of {{WP India}} to ancient archaeological sites now located in Pakistan, a "pre" parameter was introduced to remove the ROI flag from the template for pre-1947 articles, following discussion. After another large discussion on ANI alleging that the automated tagging by Ganeshbot and LostBot was "nationalistic", Ganeshbot was briefly blocked. Currently, the bots are again in action. What is India?:Recently, there have been ongoing discussions here which discuss the stated issue of "India" the historical region is different from the Republic of India. It consisted also of modern Pakistan and Bangladesh, but a search for "India" automatically redirects to the Republic of India. Should there not be a clarification? . This comes in light of clashes on articles such as Panini, Subrahmanyan Chandrasekhar, Muhammad Iqbal and Muhammad Ali Jinnah, regarding the status of the individuals. Swastika on Hinduism templates:Recently, an extremely large and at times emotional debate broke out regarding the use of the swastika on Hinduism templates, given its association with Nazism. As a result, {{Hindu Links}} now contains an educational message about the use of the swastika, as discussion on a more permanent resolution continues. Arbitration: Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Hkelkar regarding the activities of various editors on pages related to Indian religion topics closed recently, with Hkelkar, BhaiSaab and TerryJ-Ho all banned for one year. Currently, Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Sathya Sai Baba 2 regarding a dispute over the article of the religious teacher is in the voting phase. What's New? Symbol of the Hoysala Empire Featured and Good Content: Two articles (Indian Standard Time (nom)) and (Hoysala Empire (nom)), were featured from our WikiProject recently, since our last edition. Irfan Pathan, Hinduism, Dinesh Karthik, Lage Raho Munna Bhai were promoted to Good article status. Congratulations to all contributors who helped to develop the above content to represent the best of Wikipedia! Need some help? Are you stuck at a point where admin help is needed? There are 21 Indian Administrators in Wikipedia at the last count. If you need some help with anything related to WikiProject India, they are just a couple of clicks away! Complete To Do List India-related tasks | Indian noticeboard Requests: Sibichen K Mathew, Dominic Emmanuel, AK Merchant, Counterfeiting of currency notes in India, Akhand Pratap Singh, Asura (band), Asian Variety Show, Cultural liberalism in India, India Export Tax, India Import Tax, More... NPOV: Greater Nepal Rajneesh, Ranjit Lal Jetley Hedgewar, Puttanna Kanagal, Bride burning, Sonia Gandhi More... Wikify: Railway stations, Mahavidwan R. Raghava Iyengar, Silk in the Indian subcontinent, IDBI Bank More... Cleanup: , Rampur, Tav-Prasad Savaiye, Shipping Corporation of India, Velama, Medical college (India), All India Radio, More... Merge: Raghava Rama, Sammar Bahisht, Sathya Sai Baba movement,More... Expand: Prime Minister of India, Krishna district, List of railway stations in India, Swaraj, Ashoka Kumar Thakur vs. Union of India (Supreme Court Case), Barak Missile Deal Scandal, 14th Lok Sabha, Adithada, Ali Sardar Jafri, Bandhani work, Bhaiband, Chikan (embroidery), China Town, Kolkata, Rahi Masoom Raza, Energy policy of India, Essar Shipping, Fair use, Hinduism in India, Imperial Bank, Inbuan Wrestling, Iran-India relations, Islam in India, Arjuna award, Sunil Mittal, Save Indian Family, Anjana Sukhani, Rajendra K. Pachauri, More... Stubs: Anand Math, A R Antule, Arjuna award, Army of India, Bapudeva Sastri, Bombay Dyeing, Indian Copyright Act, Marimallappa, Mumbai Skywalk, More... Translate: Bhojpuri Wikipedia articles, Maithili Wikipedia articles, Telugu Wikipedia articles, Marathi Wikipedia articles, Hindi Wikipedia articles, Sanskrit Wikipedia articles, Tamil Wikipedia articles Kannada Wikipedia articles Collaborate: Collaborations of the Month, Notice board, Category Adoptions To do, Version 1.0 assessment, India Portal, Life in India, India quick links Indian Wikipedians, More... Requested images: Ilaiyaraaja, M. S. Subbulakshmi, R. K. Narayan, Free image of Aarti Chhabria Other requests: Add maps from WikiProject India Maps to articles of Indian regions found at List of regions in India Create links/categories to {{Elections in India}} template

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