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Repetitions in articles

Hi,

just a little comment on this change: [1].

I'm not going to undo it, but it's not a good thing to repeat data if there's no mechanism to (automatically) keep the data in sync, despite it being "standard" on Wikipedia, as you say in the edit message. See Don't repeat yourself and Single source of truth. Wikipedia may "get by" with it, due to the incredibly high number of editors/readers, but, in general, things like that lead to someone correcting the date somewhere (if it turns out to be incorrect) and leaving the old one(s) somewhere else. —Gennaro Prota^•Talk 13:40, 28 July 2022 (UTC)

It's good & common practice to have the birth/death dates in the intro of bio pages. GoodDay (talk) 13:41, 28 July 2022 (UTC)

I'm considering a Wiki-break

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

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After my off-Wiki experiences from mid-March to mid-May 2021, my emotional state hasn't been 100% . I'm thankful to 'two' editors, who've helped me self-reflect on possible symptoms of that nervous breakdown from 2021. GoodDay (talk) 20:27, 27 July 2022 (UTC)

I am sorry hearing your emotional state hasn't been 100%. I personally have experienced that. Consider while you recover only contributing in non-controversial subjects, because I feel such editing helps me relax and distract my mind a great deal, as opposed to editing and debating in seriously passionate topics as the Donald Trump page. Thinker78 (talk) 23:27, 27 July 2022 (UTC)

I would suggest editing obscure articles with a history of no one editing for long periods of time. Thinker78 (talk) 23:29, 27 July 2022 (UTC)

Hi G'Day. Wasn't aware of any of this. We've had our differences and also many agreements - I sincerely wish you the very best. Sarah777 (talk) 23:35, 27 July 2022 (UTC)

Oh, I'll survive, I believe. It's still strange though, when it comes to content disputes. When I participate very little in them or not at all, the consensus ends up (eventually) the way of my arguments. I might be a misunderstood genius ;) GoodDay (talk) 23:41, 27 July 2022 (UTC)

You are! In one of my bleakest Wiki-hours 14 years ago you posted this:

"Imagine all the people, living life in peace.... Welcome back, from those who luv ya. GoodDay (talk) 22:35, 12 June 2008 (UTC)"

Please still be here next time I get in trouble! Sarah777 (talk) 23:50, 27 July 2022 (UTC)

I'll be there for you. GoodDay (talk) 23:53, 27 July 2022 (UTC)

I've been there. I had to take a very long wikibreak. Sometimes it is best to step away and remember the important things in life. Andrevan@ 01:02, 30 July 2022 (UTC)

For sure. I'm still puttering along, though :) GoodDay (talk) 01:10, 30 July 2022 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Peter Deshong date of death

Hello, Good Day! I noticed the change of date of death for Peter Deshong. The reference does not list a specific date of death but the grave image clearly states Dec. 26th. Can you provide a rationale or reference for changing date of death to Dec. 16th? Thanks! Dwkaminski (talk) 12:58, 1 August 2022 (UTC)

Hello @Dwkaminski:, I was matching the lead with the date in the infobox. Wasn't sure which was the correct date. GoodDay (talk) 13:26, 1 August 2022 (UTC)

Shall we agree on the date on the tombstone? Dwkaminski (talk) 13:38, 1 August 2022 (UTC)

I already changed it to Dec 26 date. GoodDay (talk) 13:39, 1 August 2022 (UTC)

Ban review

GD, I would suggest taking a pause before sending out a review request. The critical thing here is to make it clear that the problem people identified won't happen again. For what it's worth I always suggest strictly sticking to facts/avoiding snarky comments about other editors etc. I know it's easy to do and I suspect if I let myself do it I would have been blocked a while back. Taking a pause will help show this isn't a hot headed reply (very easy to do). Far more than once I've started typing something then thought better of it and was glad I didn't say it in the end. It's clear that a number of editors see value in your contributions even when they don't agree with you. Think about that as you go into this. Happy editing! Springee (talk) 21:41, 15 July 2022 (UTC)

I'm quite upset & feel as though I'm being punished. I've already posted at WP:AN. Been here for nearly 17-years & never felt so wrongly 'figuratively' over-punished. GoodDay (talk) 21:46, 15 July 2022 (UTC)

You are welcome to email me if you would like to discuss further. Springee (talk) 21:49, 15 July 2022 (UTC)

Thanks Springee, but I don't have email. Within hours I could edit a bio (for example) & not notice what topic it's related to & then BAM. I meant the apologies for the mistakes I made. But no, I'm immediately branded a bad editor, who must be heavily restricted :( GoodDay (talk) 21:54, 15 July 2022 (UTC)

I'm going to hold off from editing any pages, while things are being clarified. PS - I don't even know, if I'm allowed to even post about any of this 'here'? GoodDay (talk) 22:17, 15 July 2022 (UTC)

Unsolicited advice, take ANI off your watchlist and consider your appeal withdrawn, reading and engaging is only going to drive you crazy. And yeah, I'd avoid discussing the sanction outside of a future appeal, just will be more frustration, dramaboards, and potential admin action. Slywriter (talk) 04:37, 16 July 2022 (UTC)

That's sound advice. I shall follow it. I am feeling like crap, right now. But don't worry. I'm not feeling suicidal. GoodDay (talk) 04:41, 16 July 2022 (UTC)

@Slywriter: Actually that's not entirely true. I was thinking of calling a suicide line, but I think I'll be alright. Again, I have removed the board from my watchlist, on your advice. Two or three of the criticisms there on the board, appear borderline abusive to me. GoodDay (talk) 04:54, 16 July 2022 (UTC)

You will be alright. If you call such line you can get more in trouble than get a benefit for yourself. In some countries they can even forcefully take you, so I wouldn't advice that move. As you say, you will be alright. Just research about depression because it can have a myriad of causes, ranging from stress, social isolation to lack of sun and proper sleep, and deficiency of certain nutrients. If you seek a therapist, make sure is someone who doesn't force treatments on patients and better if is someone holistic and a bit of antipsychiatric. Thinker78 (talk) 23:55, 27 July 2022 (UTC)

Fast Times at Ridgemont High: As Mike Damone said - "No matter what happens. Your toes are still tappin'". GoodDay (talk) 00:00, 28 July 2022 (UTC)

I chatted months ago with @Peter Ormond: about going through a nervous breakdown, March-May 2021 -little to no edits during that time period shows it. I'm doing what I can to keep it together, Peter. GoodDay (talk) 05:02, 16 July 2022 (UTC)

Walk away @Thinker78: from the possible storm. PS - No need for a response. GoodDay (talk) 23:49, 28 July 2022 (UTC)

self care comments

Administrator note: Not a constructive discussion to have on-wiki. -- Tamzin[cetacean needed] (she|they|xe) 23:01, 28 July 2022 (UTC)
The following discussion has been closed. Please do not modify it.
Hi GoodDay, I've dealt with suicidal thoughts off and on for decades. One thing I have learned is that talk therapy is ho hum by itself. Medication is ho hum by itself. But both together, under the care of a clinic that specializes in such care... that's the ticket. Every other attempt to get away from the feelings....booze, wikipedia...whatever....those are all just coping mechanisms until you're getting proper care. The first steps are the hardest. Good luck NewsAndEventsGuy (talk) 08:15, 16 July 2022 (UTC) I'll be alright @NewsAndEventsGuy:. Was just kinda overwhelmed by some of the comments towards me at WP:AN. A few editors (not all of them) just went borderline if not overboard. You'd of thought, I had committed the worst crime of world history. GoodDay (talk) 13:17, 16 July 2022 (UTC) @NewsAndEventsGuy: I've been screwing up lately, these last roughly two weeks. Stress levels have gotten high & since I don't have email, there's no way for me to communicate about certain things (i.e. blow off steam), on this project. So I'm slowing down a bit & trying to stay drama-free as much as possible. GoodDay (talk) 21:30, 27 July 2022 (UTC) I'd again advise you to seek off-wiki real life relationships that are interactive and personal. Even in the context of the internet, WP is designed for impersonal communication. That's a good way for strangers to collaborate, but it will never address your personal needs. SPECIFICO talk 21:54, 27 July 2022 (UTC) I'm dealing with personal issues & I'm actually grateful for the comments. I just want folks to know, I'm not a bad person with evil thoughts. It may come as a surprise to some, that over 78% of my edits are to main space & that RFCs I've been involved with, have resulted in a consensus that I supported, 85–90% of the time. Also, I've been reminded, 'bout an hour ago, that dispute contents have a tendency to result in an outcome I supported, without my participation. But yes, I will 'slow down' & stop trying to be everywhere on the project. No 'one' editor can do it, without having any kinda break-down. GoodDay (talk) 22:03, 27 July 2022 (UTC) It may not be my place to ask, and I only mean it for your reflection, not a public answer.... have you talked to your primary care doc about how you're feeling? Rather than eat a bullet (or any of a thousand other options) I did that myself last year, and on a "I'll sit in your waiting room all day until you have a gap" kind of now-or-never basis. He was great. Saw me each week until I stabilized. First it was low dose trazadone to support sleep, and WHAT A DIFFERENCE! It's been more than a year and I still take it. At the first appt he drew blood for a full nutrition panel, and I was assigned homework to google sleep hygiene, start doing those ideas and keep a sleep journal. A week later the bloodwork showed I was low in folate and have pernicious anemia....which suprised me becuaase I'm a bit of a nutrition nerd and have a great diet. So I had to up my intake of high folate foods and take vit b shots. WHAT A DIFFERENCE!! At the second appt he also refererd me to a talk therapist. Now that I had done a lot of, off and on, and that helped but I won't scream it was a huge help. But that's because we didn't click really, and she didn't try very hard to assign me things to work on. So I am actively switching my therapy provider. Meanwhile I also went on Zoloft...... and WOW-WOW WHAT A DIFFERENCE. Sorry to go on and on, just saying.... if you haven't talked to your primary care doc, do. And if they don't seem to be to savvy on this stuff, get a referal. Every day you delay is a day you can't get back when you start to feel better. Best, NewsAndEventsGuy (talk) 23:24, 27 July 2022 (UTC) Oh you 'or' anybody may ask me 'any' personal questions. Would you believe my 'primary care doc' moved on quite a while ago, due to stress? He helped me deal with anger issues, which were locked up inside me for 35+ years. Bullied in elementary school, then more so by 'three' fellas in junior high. By the time of high school, the bullying ended. Then three ladies who used me for only 'a few good times' & because they had marital problems. Two more ladies who wanted to be 'just friends'. I was in the friend zone (for 4 years) with the first lady, then walked away. The other lady who tried to friend zone me? I walk away from her after one month. But oh well, nobody bullies me anymore & nobody friendzones me anymore. GoodDay (talk) 23:33, 27 July 2022 (UTC) my 'primary care doc' moved on quite a while ago Sounds like you have not done what is necessary to find a new one. That's your first homework assignment right there. And if you don't try, don't bitch. I'll help you help yourself, but if you just want help staying stuck, I'm gone. NewsAndEventsGuy (talk) 23:37, 27 July 2022 (UTC) I'm working on a 'new' approach. When in content or editor disputes? I must practice a degree of detachment. I must hold back from expressing my frustrations about editors 'here' & on other editors' talkpages. GoodDay (talk) 05:21, 28 July 2022 (UTC) I don't think I've ever said "fuck" on wikipedia, but fuck that. If you're going to talk about mental health crisis and you're not talking fully openly with your primary care doc, you are engaging in gaslighting. I'm not sure if you're lying to us or to yourself but I'm dead certain if you're going to say the things you say and NOT pursue medical care, then.... I have no time for you. NewsAndEventsGuy (talk) 05:29, 28 July 2022 (UTC) I'm not lying about anything. GoodDay (talk) 05:36, 28 July 2022 (UTC) Of course you are. You are telling us there is a genuine and honest reason for us to cut you slack and shower you with compassion BUT you are not actually seeking professional help. Either your crisis is a story you tell for god knows what manipulation (emotional vampire), or you really are in crisis but you're using us as a coping mechanism while conning us into thinking you want to get over your crisis, when in fact you don't, as evidenced by your lack of medical care. One or the other is the lie you're telling. I'm gonna remove your page from my watch list, since I have zero tolerance for emotional leeches. However, if you DO get into care, and are willing to tell the story, I'd welcome a note at my own usertalk, and I'll think about coming back. Good luck to you NewsAndEventsGuy (talk) 05:58, 28 July 2022 (UTC) I'm on meds for sleeping & meds for emotional control. I'll be off the former in April 2023 & the latter around August 2022. My former doctor, instilled into me the ability to self-correct myself, to reprogram my thoughts from negative to positive, to curtail as much as possible my anger issues. I will survive, thanks to him. GoodDay (talk) 06:09, 28 July 2022 (UTC) Call it inner strength or what you will. The glue is hardening & the pieces are sealing together. Miss you, doc. But won't ever forget your teachings & hope you'll be alright too. GoodDay (talk) 21:50, 28 July 2022 (UTC)

Just inquiring but who are you to post that here? By what authority? Sarah777 (talk) 13:45, 1 August 2022 (UTC)

Who is who? GoodDay (talk) 13:47, 1 August 2022 (UTC)

I'm asking Tamzin. Isn't that obvious??! Sarah777 (talk) 13:57, 1 August 2022 (UTC)

Also wondering about "conversation closed" box below. Is that you or someone else? Sarah777 (talk) 13:57, 1 August 2022 (UTC)

The closing above, was done by Administrator Tamzin, who felt that one of the editors' had 'crossed the line' with their comments. The close below was done by me, as I'm no longer considering a wiki-break. GoodDay (talk) 14:00, 1 August 2022 (UTC)

Humble apologies if you are the author of both postings Sarah777 (talk) 14:00, 1 August 2022 (UTC)

OK G'Day. I thought you were under some sort of Admin attack. I'm paranoid when it comes to authority! Sarah777 (talk) 14:05, 1 August 2022 (UTC)

Great to hear you are not leaving! Sarah777 (talk) 14:06, 1 August 2022 (UTC)

My thoughts, exactly ;) GoodDay (talk) 14:07, 1 August 2022 (UTC)

Phew! Take a few deep breaths & continue to control my emotions. GoodDay (talk) 07:20, 2 August 2022 (UTC)

What are you doing?

Why would you ever place a comma there?? https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Anders_Wiklund&diff=prev&oldid=1101899397 FMSky (talk) 11:02, 2 August 2022 (UTC)

@FMSky: you mean the adding the commas? I thought that was standard operating procedure. Been doing that for years "(born D M Y, in place)", "(born M D, Y in place)". GoodDay (talk) 13:10, 2 August 2022 (UTC)

Lugnut

He wasn't banned. Maybe you should just remove that unconstructive section. Dennis Brown - 2¢ 23:58, 1 August 2022 (UTC)

@Dennis Brown: I thought he was. I'll remove it. GoodDay (talk) 23:58, 1 August 2022 (UTC)

He may be before it's over, but it's just a block right now. Dennis Brown - 2¢ 10:58, 2 August 2022 (UTC)

I see. Was hoping all four editors would've 'only' gotten t-bans. GoodDay (talk) 13:16, 2 August 2022 (UTC)

Abraham accords

Hi, thanks for reaching out. I\m afraid I don't know what an RFC is, but if it means a request for consensus, I'd say the consensus is clear from the Trump Talk page: the large majority of editors oppose including it, and by extension anything positive about Trump. So that's the consensus, and it'd be a waste of time. This is the point at which Wikipedia's attempt at impartiality breaks down, and as one contributor says, it may take a decade before Trump's Presidency can be evaluated impartially.

I guess it's unimportant, because all of MSM and pretty much all the movers and shakers hate Trump, and most of the world's population outside the USA follows their lead, so no one's interested in an impartial view. I thought it was an uncontentious change, but now I see it was part of the design of the article. Chrismorey (talk) 17:05, 2 August 2022 (UTC)

@Chrismorey: a Wikipedia:Requests for comment, bring in editors outside the page-in-question, for broader input. GoodDay (talk) 17:07, 2 August 2022 (UTC)

I see that even your suggestion has been attacked by an anti-Trump zealot. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:SPECIFICO may have nothing better to do, but I'm afraid I have, and I don't want to get into Wiki infighting Chrismorey (talk) 18:52, 2 August 2022 (UTC)

Now you know why I've removed both the Trump & Biden pages from my watchlist. Look up earlier in the discussion & you'll see where my 'support' for inclusion, is mocked. GoodDay (talk) 18:56, 2 August 2022 (UTC)

Encarta

My goodness Encarta. Came across that page today & sure do remember it. Does it ever make me feel gray-haired. GoodDay (talk) 20:24, 3 August 2022 (UTC)

Did your school have a room for all those Unisys ICONs the government wants the retro gaming world to forget? InedibleHulk (talk) 08:45, 4 August 2022 (UTC)

I just had Encarta on my home computer & it weren't no flat screen, back then. GoodDay (talk) 12:38, 4 August 2022 (UTC)

Ah, yes, back when drives were read aloud. InedibleHulk (talk) 03:08, 5 August 2022 (UTC)

For sure. GoodDay (talk) 03:09, 5 August 2022 (UTC)

formatting my comments

Hi, in the future if you'd like me to reformat my own talk page comments please ping me at my usertalk. Also, you cited WP:INDENT.... that's an essay, and its rated as "low impact" on the project, so its a rather flimsy pin on which to hang your hat. Plus, I try to be a reasonable guy so...just give me a gentle ask next time? If I agree I'll be happy to tweak my own formatting. Thanks NewsAndEventsGuy (talk) 15:36, 7 August 2022 (UTC)

@NewsAndEventsGuy: It helps a lot, if you indent your posts properly. Makes it easier for one to know, who you're responding to. GoodDay (talk) 15:38, 7 August 2022 (UTC)

I'm aware

@Tamzin: & @Cullen328:, I am aware that I'm being directly/indirectly mentioned by another editor at his talk page & was mentioned by the same editor at another editor's talkpage (about a week ago), that Tamzin (thankfully) deleted. There's certainly two-sides to a story & so far, I've chosen not to overly tell my side. In making that choice, I've also (so far) been able to control my emotions/frustrations & stick to arguing content dispute, be it in an article talkpage, WikiProject, MoS, RfC, etc. I've no personal animosity towards the editor-in-question, but do find it a tad difficult to bring up content concerns, if the editor-in-question doesn't want me to engage with him on said talkpages, while the editor-in-question is apparently allowed to engage with me. I'm 'apparently' not allowed to revert any of his edits, yet he's allowed to revert mine. I'm apparently not allowed to challenge his edits, but he's allowed to challenge mine. When me & the editor-in-question 'do' come to a stalemate on a topic? I seek input from others, via contacting a related WikiProject & if necessary, via RFC. It also can be frustrating, when the editor-in-question brings up something in my past from a decade ago, into the content dispute. That's not a fair way to 'win' an argument over content. Anyways, again I've no animosity towards the editor-in-question & will continue to 'not' use personal attacks in content disputes. PS - The editor-in-question, is welcomed to contact me 'here' anytime. GoodDay (talk) 17:11, 5 August 2022 (UTC)

You are obviously feeling frustrated and playing your cards close to your chest. Feel free to email me if you want. Cullen328 (talk) 17:18, 5 August 2022 (UTC)

Unfortunately, I've no email :( PS - I've even tried to help him. Giving advice to 'not' bludgeon RFCs & recently, to be careful editing Irish political pages. All I ask, is that the editor-in-question stick to the content that's being disputed & not object, when I feel it's time we get input from other editors on the said content dispute. I also ask, that he 'stop' making me the topic, in those content discussions. GoodDay (talk) 17:27, 5 August 2022 (UTC)

Techno additions

Can you not set up something like a Proton Mail account and use that for Wikipedia? It's entirely web-based and anonymous, and needs no email client app installed on your computer or phone or anything like that. Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 07:54, 7 August 2022 (UTC)

I've no techno knowledge of email. I don't even have a video camera set up. GoodDay (talk) 11:02, 7 August 2022 (UTC)

You really don't need any. If you just go for the free account at https://proton.me/pricing, it's pretty straightforward to set up - if you can work Wikipedia, you should be able to work Proton. Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 12:19, 7 August 2022 (UTC)

I don't like to venture into areas, I've never been before. GoodDay (talk) 12:22, 7 August 2022 (UTC)

Fair enough. I'm glad you decided to venture into Wikipedia, though ;-) Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 17:26, 7 August 2022 (UTC)

Me too :) GoodDay (talk) 17:27, 7 August 2022 (UTC)

Jobtitles

Either you write Minister of Foreign Affairs as a proper noun, so that minister and foreign affairs are all capped, or it's not a proper noun in which case you write "minister of foreign affairs". "Foreign Affairs" is not a proper noun on its own, it's only a proper noun if the title Minister of Foreign Affairs is a proper noun. It simply doesn't make sense to say "minister of Foreign Affairs" since Foreign Affairs on its own is not a proper noun. It's not the same as Canada or United States which is a proper noun on its own as a country ie you can write "prime minister of Canada" but you can't write "minister of National Defence". Horatio Bumblebee (talk) 01:49, 9 August 2022 (UTC)

@Horatio Bumblebee: I didn't know the entire word had to be lower cased. Thanks for catching that. GoodDay (talk)

Wikipedia talk:Canadian Wikipedians' notice board#Provincial infoboxes content

This is a courtesy notice to let you know that I have closed the above discussion that you had previously placed at WP:RFCLOSE. — Red-tailed hawk _(nest) 19:04, 10 August 2022 (UTC)

Thanks. GoodDay (talk) 20:04, 10 August 2022 (UTC)

Reverts involving start date and age template

Why are you reverting the edits to hockey clubs that indicate how old they are utilizing the Template:start date and age with no reason given for the revert?

The template's Usage in Articles section states: "This template is most often used in infoboxes in articles about buildings or organizations, identifying when they were started/founded/opened or dissolved/ended/closed."

Since each hockey club is an organization, usage of the template is clearly compliant with the template's guidelines. It also provides useful information to Wikipedia readers, and is consistent with usage of the template for founded dates and ages in other sports' infoboxes in Wikipedia.

Would you please justify your action and reconsider the reverts.

Thanks. Truthanado (talk) 01:37, 13 August 2022 (UTC)

@Truthanado: My sincere apologies, as I should've originally took this to WP:SPORTS & WP:HOCKEY. It's just that you suddenly appeared on my watchlist (which has all the NHL teams) adding the template. As they say my way, your foot was a tad heavy on the pedal. GoodDay (talk) 03:06, 13 August 2022 (UTC)

Comma following a date

Hi, I thought I would bring our discussion here, rather than continuing a tit-for-tat on the John Hopoate page. I think the relevant "rule" here is Wikipedia:Manual of Style#Date commas, which provides that "Dates in month–day–year format require a comma after the day, as well as after the year, unless followed by other punctuation". Note the M-D-Y format. If Hopoate's DOB was reported as January 16, 1974, then I agree that a comma is required after 1974. In his case, however, his DOB follows the Australian system of D-M-Y, which does not have a comma after the year. Thanks for reading. Regards, WWGB (talk) 06:42, 10 August 2022 (UTC)

@WWGB: I've always understood it as "born August 10, 2022 in county" or "born 10 August 2022, in country". GoodDay (talk) 06:45, 10 August 2022 (UTC)

That first one definitely needs a comma after the year, to come back from the aside entered by the comma before the year. In the second one, I'd say it's optional, and I'd generally omit it. Dicklyon (talk) 02:34, 22 August 2022 (UTC)

I've seen a lot of them done as "M D, Year in country & "D M Year, in country". GoodDay (talk) 02:46, 22 August 2022 (UTC)

Production

Hello again. I will always be thankful for the kindness you showed me when I returned from time off. I managed start a bunch of articles and started a few DYK areas. I think from your actions when I first returned, that you believe I am here to help do the hard work. Please remind me to get back to being productive in when you see me getting wound up in controversy. Cheers Lightburst (talk) 01:31, 1 September 2022 (UTC)

@Lightburst: no prob. Sometime before this year is out, the whole article creation/deletion/separating/merging situation, will clear up. PS - I've noticed that 'most' of the individual dino skeletons pages, are T-rexes. Indeed, the only Dinobot with his own page, is also a part-time T-rex. GoodDay (talk) 01:36, 1 September 2022 (UTC)

Right. It felt sneaky. I understand why they merged it that way -much easier to have one side ivote. It is the definition of a kangaroo court. Also I am not married to the article, but I feel like there is a process that was not respected, and as someone on the talk page said, it was a classic badnac. Now it is a pissing contest. Why shouldn't we have an article on this dino? You would think the paleontologist would want an article on every tooth and bone ever found. Lightburst (talk) 01:43, 1 September 2022 (UTC)

Will be interesting to see how all these individual dino skeleton pages turn out. GoodDay (talk) 01:45, 1 September 2022 (UTC)

Request for assistance: COI edits on Daryl Katz

Hello GooDay. I saw that you are an active participant in WP:HOCKEY. There are some recent developments regarding NHL team owner Daryl Katz that I would like to clarify in his article. I opened an edit request to revise the text and a different editor brought it to to the talk page of that project. I feel that it is important to modify the current language about the dismissed allegations to provide context, adhere to NPOV, and make the details about the entire issue more readable. I would be grateful if you could review my request and suggested language, implementing these changes as you deem appropriate. A different editor closed my initial request, but it seemed premature to me. Thanks in advance. DJ for Katz (talk) 15:32, 6 September 2022 (UTC)

I'll take a peek. GoodDay (talk) 20:33, 6 September 2022 (UTC)

Invitation to the London Bridge Task Force

Hello! You seem to have an interest in the recent death of Elizabeth II, so I wanted to invite to the WikiProject of Current Events new task force The London Bridge Task Force, which will be working on improving all the articles around the death of Elizabeth II. A task force is similar to a WikiProject, which is where you can communicate with other editors who all have the same goal, which is improving all the articles around a specific topic. I hope you consider joining! Elijahandskip (talk) 23:50, 8 September 2022 (UTC)

Lastest revision

@GoodDay: Hello again! So for your revision on Charles III's infobox, I don't think we use that until a country withdraws from the commowealth realm during that person's reign. I know it's in Elizabeth II's, but for George VI, we didn't use it because the British Dominion's had no departures during his reign. Bbraxtonlee (talk) 06:08, 9 September 2022 (UTC)

We should still use the collapse mechanism for the 14 other realms, as they're separate independent countries. GoodDay (talk) 06:10, 9 September 2022 (UTC)

That's why we put King of the United Kingdom and the other Commonwealth realms as the title of his succession. Bbraxtonlee (talk) 06:23, 9 September 2022 (UTC)

Nevermind. Do whatever you want. GoodDay (talk) 06:25, 9 September 2022 (UTC)

Archie & Lili

You are cordially invited: Talk:Archie Mountbatten-Windsor#Supposed "legal" titles. DBD 21:11, 9 September 2022 (UTC)

Misclick

Been having problems with my device for days. Sorry. DrKay (talk) 15:57, 11 September 2022 (UTC)

@DrKay: no problem :) GoodDay (talk) 16:00, 11 September 2022 (UTC)

A small advice

Hi there GoodDay,

I noticed that you've been on this site for ten years. I appreciate you being here for that long and all, but I feel that you treat people, such as me, a little harshly in the talk pages. I just want for you to be more positive for people, make it an enjoyable experience to be on Wikipedia for you and for me and not make me just want to delete my Wikipedia account and never come back. I do try to do the best on the stuff I care about, really. So in turn, I ask you to be a little more positive and a little more open-minded to others, that's all I ask. Thanks. Yourlocallordandsavior (talk) 08:04, 10 September 2022 (UTC)

@Yourlocallordandsavior: My apologies. It wasn't my intent to be so. GoodDay (talk) 08:08, 10 September 2022 (UTC)

Thanks, it's okay. Yourlocallordandsavior (talk) 21:19, 13 September 2022 (UTC)

Image rotation

"Too bad, there's no way we can put in a rotational mechanism, which would change the infobox image once every 24 hrs :)"

Press edit in this section see code below

The Bombay Stock Exchange, founded in 1875, is Asia's oldest stock exchange.illan UK

Moxy- 03:35, 20 September 2022 (UTC)

You may also be interested in yesterday's TFA, which displayed 1 of 10 random images, with the images cycling every thirty minutes. According to the related talk section it required purging of the page cache every half hour to do it, but overall it seems to have been successful. Sideswipe9th (talk) 03:48, 20 September 2022 (UTC)

It appears the image dispute at Elizabeth II's infobox (that included concurrent separate discussions), has slowly cooled down. GoodDay (talk) 18:08, 22 September 2022 (UTC)

Photo to be used for Mondale in Infobox for 1984 Presidential Election?

Hello there. I was wondering if you could help settle a dispute that has been going on in the 1984 Presidential Election Page. There is currently going on a dispute between which photograph of Walter Mondale should be in the infobox for the page. The disputed images are his official Vice-Presidential portrait taken in 1977 and a picture of him giving a campaign speech in Austin, Texas in 1984.

I've understood that in cases where a Vice-President runs for President under a major party, their Vice-Presidential photo is to be used in the info box even if they should win the presidency.

If you could please help settle this issue, it would be a great help

Thanks ~@HistorianL (talk) 18:05, 23 September 2022 (UTC)

@HistorianL: I would lean towards using the "presidential nominee" in these situations, where it's a former vice president running for president. Examples - H. Wallace in 1948 (minor party), Nixon in 1968, Mondale in 1984, Gore in 2000 & Biden in 2020. GoodDay (talk) 18:18, 23 September 2022 (UTC)

So, which of these photographs would be the better one to use, as this argument has been going on for months and I wanna get it over with ~ HistorianL (talk) 18:20, 23 September 2022 (UTC)

Mondale as the 1984 presidential nominee. GoodDay (talk) 18:21, 23 September 2022 (UTC)

Okay. Thank you.

Also, one last thing so im sure.

If an incumbent runs for a second term, the more recent photo is used or their second term portrait if they successfully win another term, such as the case with Taft in 1912, Wilson in 1916, FDR in 1940 and 1944, Nixon in 1972, Carter in 1980, Reagan in 1984, Bush in 2004, and Obama in 2012. I've been told that this policy is the correct one to be using, but I just wanted to be sure. ~ HistorianL (talk) 19:04, 24 September 2022 (UTC)

August 2022

You have been blocked from editing for a period of 72 hours for persistently adding unsourced or poorly sourced content. Once the block has expired, you are welcome to make useful contributions.

If you think there are good reasons for being unblocked, please read the guide to appealing blocks, then add the following text below the block notice on your talk page: {{unblock|reason=Your reason here ~~~~}}.  NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 02:54, 26 August 2022 (UTC)

@NinjaRobotPirate: pardon me, but I seen 1991 as the BLP's birthyear at a page about his lastname (I've since removed it, upon your pointing out my mistake) & assumed that it was the BLPs birthyear. It was a mistake & not an attempt at disruption. GoodDay (talk) 02:58, 26 August 2022 (UTC)

This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who accepted the request.

GoodDay (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))

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Request reason:

The page Briner had the year 1991 (which I since removed) as the related BLP's birthyear & thus my reason for adding the birth year to Justin Briner, earlier. I made an error & wasn't attempting to disrupt or vandalise. GoodDay (talk) 03:13, 26 August 2022 (UTC)

Accept reason:

I've reviewed the circumstances surrounding the block and the discussion below. This block has served its purpose, the editor has admitted that they made an error, and I believe that this public flogging and 12+ hour effective block duration is probably sufficient for them to learn their lesson. I don't see any preventative reason for keeping the editor blocked for 3 full days, and I don't have any legitimate concern that unblocking now will allow any imminent damage or disruption to Wikipedia. While GoodDay's edits were clearly problematic, there seems to be a consensus forming here that a simple conversation may have resolved the issue just as well as a block. —⁠ScottyWong⁠— 16:40, 26 August 2022 (UTC)

@Dennis Brown: I've read over the blocking administrator's reason for giving me 72 hrs. Honestly, I wasn't vandalising Justin Briner. Merely made a mistake in adding 1991 as a birthyear. GoodDay (talk) 03:50, 26 August 2022 (UTC)

@Cullen328: & @Tamzin: perhaps you can both explain this to me. GoodDay (talk) 04:20, 26 August 2022 (UTC)

Just passing by, but, WTH?! GenQuest ^"scribble" 04:46, 26 August 2022 (UTC)

Well @GenQuest:, it shocked me too. Suffice it to say, I'm a little upset. GoodDay (talk) 04:51, 26 August 2022 (UTC)

You "merely made a mistake"? A mistake is when you mix up your citations. For example, one source might say that someone was born in New York City, and another source might say that he's 25, but I accidentally paste in the URL for the "born in New York City" source in both citations. Then I have to search through my closed tabs to find the actual URL for the source that I wanted to cite. That has happened to me, and I'd be surprised if it hasn't happened to most people on Wikipedia. But it's quite different from thinking that adding sources is not necessary. I can't be the only person on Wikipedia who actively skims over the edits on Special:AbuseFilter/712. But it sometimes feels like I am. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 07:26, 26 August 2022 (UTC)

@NinjaRobotPirate: please look at the history of the Briner page, which (until I deleted it, after seeing your delete at the BLP) had 1991 as his birthdate. I went by the info there, in adding the birth year to the related BLP. GoodDay (talk) 07:36, 26 August 2022 (UTC)

And that's why you're blocked. Do you seriously think this is a policy-compliant action? That you can just pull dates out of thin air, add them to BLPs, and not have to bother with pedestrian things like sourcing your edits? Just because you've made a lot of edits doesn't mean that you can completely ignore major content policies. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 07:50, 26 August 2022 (UTC)

The birthdate (1991) was already in the Briner page, which is what I went by, when I added the birthdate to the BLP. GoodDay (talk) 08:20, 26 August 2022 (UTC)

@NinjaRobotPirate Mistake or not, a direct block without any warning or dialogue is very harsh, to put it mildly. It's not like we're dealing with an obvious vandal here. --Marbe166 (talk) 07:37, 26 August 2022 (UTC)

Already alerted to discretionary sanctions. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 07:50, 26 August 2022 (UTC)

What BLP was that non-warning for @NinjaRobotPirate:, fwiw? GoodDay (talk) 07:52, 26 August 2022 (UTC)

The entire topic is under discretionary sanctions, not a specific article. It's not a notification about a specific article. That wouldn't really make sense. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 08:42, 26 August 2022 (UTC)

It would help me & other editors, if a 'big' notice was put in place, to appear on every BLP. Otherwise, we're gonna end up with over half of the community blocked for having added birth-dates & death-dates without sources. There's hundreds of BLPs that don't have such dates sourced. GoodDay (talk) 08:47, 26 August 2022 (UTC)

Do you mean that large red box that shows up whenever you edit an BLP? NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 08:52, 26 August 2022 (UTC)

I didn't vandalise the BLP or create a disruption. I made a human error at the BLP-in-question, thanks to an error made by another editor on a related page. I've no intentions of going back to the BLP-in-question & reinserting that error. GoodDay (talk) 08:55, 26 August 2022 (UTC)

Adding unsourced birth dates to BLPs is not disruptive? You keep saying that the date was in Briner before you added it to Justin Briner. Dude, it doesn't matter that it was in some other Wikipedia page! Half of the stuff on Wikipedia is wrong! I just reverted Special:Diff/1106764200, which vandalized a birth date. What if you blindly copied this date to some other article? You can't just copy whatever text you happen to see in an unreliable source and stick it in Wikipedia articles without even bothering to cite any sources. You have to check the sources, make sure they say what you want to add, then cite those sources properly when you add the content. There will occasionally be errors and mistakes, like I said. But you seem surprised that you need to even go through these steps – in a BLP, no less! This worries me. You have to put those worries to rest. What are you going to do next time when you want to add a birth date to a BLP? What sources are you going to check? What about the IMDb? Famous Birthdays? Tabloid journalism? Blogs? Are these valid sources for birth dates? NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 09:57, 26 August 2022 (UTC)

It's obvious that you're not going to lift the block (which IMHO, is a punitive, rather then preventative measure), so it's best you start blocking over half the community. As for you & I? there's nothing further to discuss, between us. GoodDay (talk) 10:05, 26 August 2022 (UTC)

• Comment - For what it's worth, sites like Rotton Tomatoes give 1991 as the year, which from what I can tell based on past discussions at RSN is reliable for that sort of thing. Anime News Network also lists the 1991 year and likewise seems reliable for this (though roles for animes can be submitted by users and are vetted before being posted, the DOB is not editable in any way), not to mention the ANN link is literally posted on the top of his Twitter, so I think if it were wrong he would have addressed that. I'm not saying 1991 is correct, but what I am saying is that sources that Wikipedia consensus have determined are reliable for this sort of content do match the 1991 year, so I think maybe that should be taken into consideration, because if the date is wrong, reliable sources (including one the subject himself promotes on his Twitter) has it wrong too. But to be clear, I know the unsourced addition to the BLP is the issue, whether it's correct or not. - Aoidh (talk) 07:30, 26 August 2022 (UTC)

FWIW - @Marbe166: & @Aoidh:, the edit I've been blocked (three days) for, was made several hours ago at 16:49 25 June 2022 in Justin Briner's bio page. Sorry, I don't know how to link to it. GoodDay (talk) 08:44, 26 August 2022 (UTC)

Some people just luuuuuurve smashing that block button. I hope nobody checks half the articles I've created, with their now-presumably-unsourced DOBs. – ².O.^Boxing 09:56, 26 August 2022 (UTC)

For God's sake - blocks are supposed to be preventative, not punitive. This was clearly a minor error, which I'm sure GoodDay won't repeat. Bad block, NinjaRobotPirate - the best course of action would be to lift it immediately. Bastun^{Ėġáḍβáś₮ŭŃ!} 15:18, 26 August 2022 (UTC)

This block is totally undue. Goodday isn't some IP or new user messing with articles for the fun of it. This block is a serious over-reaction and must be lifted asap. Masterhatch (talk) 16:05, 26 August 2022 (UTC)

• Wait, you got blocked for adding an unsourced year of birth, once? Am I reading this correctly?!  Tewdar  10:54, 29 August 2022 (UTC)

I did indeed, a 72-hr block. I was wondering if the blocking administrator has been doing this to other editors. If so? Perhaps that individual should have the administratorship removed. Thankfully, another administrator came along & repealed the block. GoodDay (talk) 13:55, 29 August 2022 (UTC)

Damn sorry this happened. I caught a block when I began editing in 2018 preventative not punitive is not practiced here. But your block is a jaw dropper. Lightburst (talk) 02:58, 2 September 2022 (UTC)

Thankfully, it was over-turned after 14 hrs. GoodDay (talk) 03:00, 2 September 2022 (UTC)

Are you going to open an arbcom case against Ninja to get him desyoped? 2604:3D08:D177:B500:447E:86A3:7B98:9B9F (talk) 03:46, 16 September 2022 (UTC)

No. GoodDay (talk) 03:48, 16 September 2022 (UTC)

I think that would be extreme overkill, and I certainly would understand if you felt it was most prudent to just move on. That said, if you had felt this was worth some sort of community scrutiny (at AN/I for example) I really would not have blamed you. DS or no, this was an extremely bad and problematic block: no warning, no discussion, the edit could easily have been (and indeed was) good faith, no edit warring, the edit was not particularly problematic and was easily addressed, and the information hadn't even been assessed as inaccurate? This is not the manner in which the tool is meant to be used, and if NRP still feels, after your clarifications, that this was an appropriate use of the block function and administrative discretion, and this is the amount of effort they put into addressing issues before leaping on that tool, I am suddenly having serious questions about whether they have the right temperament for the bit. I've generally had a good impression of them (as a matter of fact, I gave my support during their RfA), and I'd like to think they were just having a bad day here, but if something like this happens again, I think the community needs to be made aware. SnowRise ^{let's rap} 02:43, 17 September 2022 (UTC)

Thankfully, the block was (rightly) over-turned by another administrator. I was more frustrated that NRP dug in his heels & refused to reverse himself. But anyways, I've no plans on seeking his administrator tools being removed. GoodDay (talk) 02:57, 17 September 2022 (UTC)

Removal would be premature and excessive, if this is a one-off, but I share your concern that the laissez-faire attitude towards the raised concerns and refusal to change course are troubling. It makes me worry that this could in fact indicate a problematic attitude with regard to the block hammer and causes me to wonder if there are other questionable blocks. I'm not the sort to go digging looking to see if that is the case, but I'm certainly going to log this in my community memory banks going forward, and I doubt I am the only one raising an eyebrow here, so to speak. SnowRise ^{let's rap} 03:29, 17 September 2022 (UTC)

The experience has shaken me, for sure. I'm extra caution around BLPs now, particularly when it comes to DOB's & DOD's. Heck, I'm even being extra careful about my spelling on BLPs. GoodDay (talk) 03:33, 17 September 2022 (UTC)

This is ridiculous that my Wikifriend GoodDay got blocked. I have never seen any other user get blocked for this simple misunderstanding. cookie monster 755 04:59, 28 September 2022 (UTC)

Any type of warning or notice should have sufficed and I really think however the administrator was that blocked GoodDay should be censured asap. cookie monster 755 05:02, 28 September 2022 (UTC)

NinjaRobotPirate You need to be censured. cookie monster 755 05:04, 28 September 2022 (UTC)

Queen Camilla drama

There still seems to be debate at Talk:Camilla, Queen Consort about her title. Also I am so sorry for your block. That really should be removed from your block history. cookie monster 755 05:05, 28 September 2022 (UTC)

Eventually, the "consort" bit will be dropped entirely. As for the block? thankfully it was over-turned. GoodDay (talk) 09:18, 28 September 2022 (UTC)

Angels

Are you going to change every NBA standings template to refer to the technically-correct-but-overly-technical-and-pedantic "New York Knickerbockers" ?? It's the same principle. Template:2022–23_NBA_Atlantic_standings

Jhn31 (talk) 15:52, 2 October 2022 (UTC)

@Jhn31: I've no interest in the NBA. But, I'm going to open up a discussion at WP:BASEBALL, to see which is the correct way to show the Angels in the AL West standings, from the 2005 to 2015 seasons. GoodDay (talk) 15:54, 2 October 2022 (UTC)

List of current reigning monarchs by length of reign

Kindly look up Sikiru Kayode Adetona, he is the king (Oba of Ijebu Kingdom) he ascended the throne on the 2nd of April 1960 making him the longest serving monarch in the world Bobbykayz (talk) 00:19, 6 October 2022 (UTC)

@Bobbylayz: Ijebu kingdom is not a sovereign state, but rather a part of Nigeria. GoodDay (talk) 00:20, 6 October 2022 (UTC)

Hello

Wanted to say "hey", and that I noticed you got lucky the other day there, my friend. Just a reminder that you're not alone, other editors are around and look to clean up the same messes as you. Cheers - wolf 03:00, 10 October 2022 (UTC)

Clarify, lucky in what area? GoodDay (talk) 03:02, 10 October 2022 (UTC)

Didn't want to clarify too much, but I believe it was an article related to vpotus's boss. I would've just emailed you if that was an option. Cheers - wolf 03:07, 10 October 2022 (UTC)

Ok :) GoodDay (talk) 03:08, 10 October 2022 (UTC)

Talk:Mary, Queen of Scots#Mary I

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Need Help making an archive

I noticed some people done this, including you with talk pages. Is there a way to work on one? 20chances (talk) 02:45, 19 October 2022 (UTC)

Another editor installed my auto-archive. Therefore, I'm not certain how to set it up. GoodDay (talk) 03:50, 19 October 2022 (UTC)

Ahh. I'm not sure who but let me find one. My talk pages are becoming too cluttered. 20chances (talk) 12:04, 19 October 2022 (UTC)

Best place to seek help is contact WP:Help Desk. -- GoodDay (talk) 12:20, 19 October 2022 (UTC)

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Lead Shenanigans

I directed this towards you on the RfC, but the other editor moved my comment for some reason.

Thanks for bringing this to the attention of more editors. Despite the insistence from some editors, this wasn't implemented as a test and characterizing opposing arguments as simply resistance to change doesn't give me a great deal of confidence that a larger audience will be convinced that this is a good idea. Nemov (talk) 18:27, 21 October 2022 (UTC) Nemov (talk) 18:58, 21 October 2022 (UTC)

I'm just happy, that input from more editors is being sought or will be sought. GoodDay (talk) 19:54, 21 October 2022 (UTC)

Hope you are well

I hope you are well.

Not sure if you recall, but you participated in previous discussion and appeal(s) related to my topic ban. I am now appealing it at the administrators noticeboard if you would like to chime in there. SecretName101 (talk) 18:49, 26 October 2022 (UTC)

@SecretName101:, I'm under a topic ban which might cross over into your topic ban. So, it's likely best that I avoid such an entanglement. GoodDay (talk) 19:11, 26 October 2022 (UTC)

Alright SecretName101 (talk) 19:13, 26 October 2022 (UTC)

Mary, Queen of Scots

Please see: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Dispute_resolution_noticeboard#Mary,_Queen_of_Scots — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A00:23C6:B808:7701:E8C5:7383:9B84:E222 (talk) 15:45, 29 October 2022 (UTC)

Thanks :)

Just wanted to thank you @Valjean:, for our friendly chat on your talkpage. As a Canadian, I'm looking forward to seeing the results of your country's mid-term elections. My guess is, there'll be increased Democratic majorities in the House & Senate. Not sure how the 36 state & 3 territorial governorships, will go. GoodDay (talk) 19:49, 31 October 2022 (UTC)

Should Dominion be capitalised?

Hi, do you know why "Dominion" is capitalised in the dominion article lede and in the "Commonwealth realms and Dominion" navbox? 208.98.222.38 (talk) 00:45, 3 November 2022 (UTC)

I assume it's capitalised, because it's a proper noun. GoodDay (talk) 01:01, 3 November 2022 (UTC)

Numbering officeholders

I know we don't number UK prime ministers because it's not common to do so, but is there actual MOS on when we do or can? I'm engaged in a discussion about US state governors. Wehwalt (talk) 17:23, 4 November 2022 (UTC)

@Wehwalt: AFAIK, all US office holders are numbered. Some states number their governors multiple times, if they've served non-consecutive terms, while others only number them once. GoodDay (talk) 21:43, 4 November 2022 (UTC)

Re:

Re 1, 2, I set up an archive bot like you suggested. Feels like a long time ago, right? I think we've learned a lot of interesting facts from the recent elections, but it has mostly shaken out the way I expected. I'm holding off on making too many changes yet until the dust settles. Andre🚐 03:26, 12 November 2022 (UTC)

@Andrevan: It'll likely be 221–214 for the Republicans in the House, while the Senate will likely end up 50–50 again. GoodDay (talk) 03:28, 12 November 2022 (UTC)

No, my numbers are 51-49, and 218-217. Andre🚐 03:29, 12 November 2022 (UTC)

Either way, it's better for Biden. After January 3, 2023, he can blame Congress for his not getting much done in the second half of his term. GoodDay (talk) 03:30, 12 November 2022 (UTC)

Most likely, he will still be able to pass some bipartisan legislation like he did in the first half, such as the infrastructure bill which got moderate R house members to vote for it, and McCarthy won't be speaker even if R have a 1-seat majority. Looks like McConnell will lose his leadership too. A lot can happen though before '24. We can agree though, that Biden is getting the epic inside straight run of good luck. Andre🚐 03:33, 12 November 2022 (UTC)

He just needs one my card to fall & that's Nancy Pelosi. It's time the House Democrats replace her. GoodDay (talk) 03:35, 12 November 2022 (UTC)

She will probably retire due to the horrific domestic terrorist attack on her husband, egged on by the right-wing foaming at the mouth Qanon media. However, she might also be hell-bent on psychotic revenge and serve for another 20 years. Politics, you know. I wouldn't put it past her to somehow become speaker even if Dems lose the majority. Andre🚐 03:39, 12 November 2022 (UTC)

It won't be Speaker. But she'll try to get elected House Minority Leader 'again'. GoodDay (talk) 03:41, 12 November 2022 (UTC)

It's still not clear who will have the majority but it won't be more than a seat or two either way, so the opportunity for a turncoat speaker is definitely nonzero given the fractured GOP in disarray. Andre🚐 03:43, 12 November 2022 (UTC)

Never underestimate the Republican Party. It's my firm belief, that the 2024 US prez election will be a (Biden vs Trump) rematch. GoodDay (talk) 03:45, 12 November 2022 (UTC)

Perhaps, but it seems like it might be a 3-way race between Biden, Trump, and DeSantis. Andre🚐 03:46, 12 November 2022 (UTC)

Trump would crush DeSantis in the Republican primaries. Also, Democrats support for Biden to seek reelection, would be strengthened if Trump were the likely Republican prez nominee. GoodDay (talk) 04:36, 12 November 2022 (UTC)

• On an unrelated note, I saw you were trimming the "alongside" sections on Senator pages. It's true that there are only two senators per state, but people do serve alongside different senators, sometimes from different parties when there is a split delegation or whatever, or when someone dies or retired, is replaced or what have you. Is there a consensus or guideline somewhere not to include the extra "alongside candidates"? Andre🚐 03:46, 12 November 2022 (UTC)

I forget where, but there was a consensus to have only the current senators in the infobox. A newish editor (a few days ago) suddenly began going against that consensus, likely because he didn't know there was one. GoodDay (talk) 03:49, 12 November 2022 (UTC)

OK thanks, if you remember where it was I'm curious. Andre🚐 03:50, 12 November 2022 (UTC)

The hint in the infobox is "Serving with", rather then "Served with" :) GoodDay (talk) 03:51, 12 November 2022 (UTC)

It might be good if a bipartisan group of editors revived a wikiproject to write down these guidelines and welcome new editors, and provide a place for this information. It's been many years since there was an active wikiproject doing this kind of work I think. Andre🚐 03:56, 12 November 2022 (UTC)

Concerning American politics, I think there are such WikiProjects. But, they may have gradually become inactive. GoodDay (talk) 03:58, 12 November 2022 (UTC)

PS in another 50–50 split, Feinstein (with Leahy retiring) would be elected the first female president pro tempore. GoodDay (talk) 04:31, 12 November 2022 (UTC)

Since I believe California governor can simply appoint her replacement, my guess is that Feinstein retires before 2024, but probably not before receiving that historical distinction. Currently, since Dems have clinched 49 seats and are about to pull ahead in Georgia, I have them with 51 seats. They also have 217 likely or lean seats, and just need to pull ahead or clinch one more to hold their trifecta. Andre🚐 04:52, 12 November 2022 (UTC)

I assume you mean Harris having the 51st vote, as Alaska is going to elect a Republican. It's not certain yet, which one. GoodDay (talk) 07:25, 12 November 2022 (UTC)

Either way, they're still stuck with Manchin & Simena. The filibuster won't be repealed, anytime soon. GoodDay (talk) 04:56, 12 November 2022 (UTC)

Sinema's likely to primaried by Ruben Gallego for 2024. And Manchin voted for the Inflation Reduction Act and will likely vote for DC+PR statehood as well for the right price, which would lock Republicans out of the Senate for 100 years. Andre🚐 04:57, 12 November 2022 (UTC)

Those two DINOs have gotta go. GoodDay (talk) 04:59, 12 November 2022 (UTC)

Dems don't want to lose Manchin - he's the only person who can win them a seat in West Virginia. Running a progressive would likely elect a Republican - same as the trick that Dems pulled helping Bolduc win his primary. Andre🚐 05:03, 12 November 2022 (UTC)

Indeed, nobody would ever accuse Manchin of being a progressive. He's corporate-controlled, from head to toe. GoodDay (talk) 05:05, 12 November 2022 (UTC)

Stadiums

Thanks for chiming in so quickly. I can't believe I'm wasting my time doing this, but I'm now changing his edits back to the consensus. Fred Zepelin (talk) 22:15, 27 November 2022 (UTC)

Next step, RFC. GoodDay (talk) 22:19, 27 November 2022 (UTC)

2014 New York Mets season

I agree that a consistent style is good for the lead, however shouldn't that consistent style be one that follows the manual of style? (specifically in this case , MOS:BOLDLINKAVOID) --Jameboy (talk) 01:39, 28 November 2022 (UTC)

@Jameboy: not when the vast majority of the MLB team season pages don't. Remove the link, but keep the Year team season in place. GoodDay (talk) 01:41, 28 November 2022 (UTC)

"Vast majority" is not a good benchmark as the vast majority of articles on Wikipedia are not of a particularly high standard. Are you saying that the baseball project has agreed upon this as a standard style for season articles? How about the best season articles? 2008 Philadelphia Phillies season, for example, reached good article status and doesn't have a bold title repeated verbatim. I'm not completely against the bold title way of doing it, I just think the alternative way allows for more relavent links to be placed early on in the lead section and the prose sounds slightly more natural. Something to consider anyway. --Jameboy (talk) 02:00, 28 November 2022 (UTC)

@Jameboy: I recommend you bring this up at WP:BASEBALL, with the goal of bringing consistency to all the teams season pages' intro. No matter what that version is. GoodDay (talk) 02:05, 28 November 2022 (UTC)

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Publicizing the RfC

Could you please help me publicize the RfC? You have so much more experience with these things. So far I have posted at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Politics of the United Kingdom, Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Biography, Wikipedia talk:WikiProject U.S. Congress, and Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Politics. Surtsicna (talk) 20:25, 4 December 2022 (UTC)

@Surtsicna: I'm trying to think up some other WikiProjects, but you seemed to have covered all of them. GoodDay (talk) 02:40, 5 December 2022 (UTC)

I've contacted the WikiProjects of Australia, New Zealand & Canada. Reckon, that'll bring a huge number of interested editors. GoodDay (talk) 02:55, 5 December 2022 (UTC)

Your clarification request

Hi GoodDay, I've reverted your request at WP:ARCA as being improperly formatted - if you want to file a request for clarification, please make sure to follow all of the steps in the red box at the top of the page (particularly the part where you click on a link to preload the new section). If I may offer my opinion as an admin uninvolved in this dispute, though, I don't think this is something that really needs ArbCom clarification - 1RR applies to any material on the article in question, and there is no exemption for maintenance templates. The definition of 3RR states An editor must not perform more than three reverts on a single page—whether involving the same or different material—within a 24-hour period. An edit or a series of consecutive edits that undoes or manually reverses other editors' actions—whether in whole or in part—counts as a revert, and 1RR takes the definition of a revert from 3RR, so I don't see much room for ambiguity here. GeneralNotability (talk) 02:27, 5 December 2022 (UTC)

Well @GeneralNotability: an editor has breached the 1RR/24HR rule at Hunter Biden laptop controversy via re-adding a dispute tag within 24-hrs & has been notified of the breach, but he refuses to undo the breach. I can't revert his edit again, for then I'd be in breach myself. PS - I'd recommend administrators or arbitrators keep a close eye on the page-in-question. IMHO, an RFC that was closed in late September on that page, is having its closure/decision, somewhat rejected. It's been going on now, for several weeks. I mean, why bother having an RFC on anything, if it's not going to be fully respected. GoodDay (talk) 02:35, 5 December 2022 (UTC)

GoodDay, if someone is violating 1RR when that's a DS enforcement action (which it appears to be here), I'd suggest reporting it to WP:AE. GeneralNotability (talk) 02:39, 5 December 2022 (UTC)

@GeneralNotability: I'm reluctant to do so, considering the volatile atmosphere around that topic. The dispute there, could easily end up at WP:AE. GoodDay (talk) 02:44, 5 December 2022 (UTC)

@Feoffer: you may want to read Arbitrator GeneralNotability's advice. GoodDay (talk) 03:18, 5 December 2022 (UTC)

Republican Party RfC

I have just closed the RfC for the Republican Party page. Gusfriend (talk) 05:54, 5 December 2022 (UTC)

Moved topic to ANI

There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. 2404:4408:638C:5E00:ED45:2BCA:48B2:EEFD (talk) 21:39, 7 December 2022 (UTC)

Where exactly. I'm not seeing it there. GoodDay (talk) 21:43, 7 December 2022 (UTC)

It was added after the notification ([2]). However, you'll now also not be able to see it anymore, as I have moved the forum shopping fork back to WP:AN. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 22:14, 7 December 2022 (UTC)

Cool. GoodDay (talk) 22:15, 7 December 2022 (UTC)

Closed BLP RfC

I have just closed the RfC at the BLP page. Gusfriend (talk) 07:48, 12 December 2022 (UTC)

Happy Holidays

Hello GoodDay: Enjoy the holiday season and winter solstice if it's occurring in your area of the world, and thanks for your work to maintain, improve and expand Wikipedia. Cheers, MasterMatt12 (talk) 23:02, 12 December 2022 (UTC)

Spread the WikiLove; use {{subst:Season's Greetings}} to send this message

MasterMatt12 (talk) 23:02, 12 December 2022 (UTC)

Why thank you @MasterMatt12: & the same to you. GoodDay (talk) 23:09, 12 December 2022 (UTC)

George Pusenkoff

Hi, GoodDay, i could not really see, what you changed in the article. Would you be so kind to tell it to me? Kind regards. Naomi Hennig (talk) 21:18, 13 December 2022 (UTC)

@Naomi Hennig: I made a space between the semi-colon & the word "born". GoodDay (talk) 21:19, 13 December 2022 (UTC)

Help on 1824 Presidential Election?

Hi there, I was wondering if you could help me with something.

There is a random IP address that keeps adding the date of the 1825 Contingent Election to the date section of the main 1824 Presidential Election, and I was wondering if you could take a look at it and tell me if it should include the contingent election or not (I have also added a note about the contingent election but they continue to persist about including the contingent election). ~ HistorianL (talk) 14:29, 14 December 2022 (UTC)

Boston Bruins Alternate Captains

You need to add Pastrnak and McAvoy as Alternate captains as I notice Krejci doesn’t always wear an “A” and they announced Pastrnak, McAvoy and Krejci as alternate captains on the Bruins opening night 184.148.109.121 (talk) 13:28, 20 December 2022 (UTC)

Ask the editors over at WP:HOCKEY, about it. GoodDay (talk) 16:07, 20 December 2022 (UTC)

@Yamla: is this IP suppose to be a banned evading editor? GoodDay (talk) 16:10, 20 December 2022 (UTC)

They were initially blocked as per Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Moka Mo/Archive. I want to be very clear here, I have no direct knowledge as to whether or not they are that blocked user. However, given the continued focus on hockey, I think we can safely say they are. Agree? --Yamla (talk) 17:02, 20 December 2022 (UTC)

Agreed. GoodDay (talk) 17:03, 20 December 2022 (UTC)

Thanks. I'll go block for continued evasion. --Yamla (talk) 17:04, 20 December 2022 (UTC)

BLP RfC closed

I have just closed the BLP RfC. Gusfriend (talk) 00:17, 22 December 2022 (UTC)

Seasonal Greetings

Merry Christmas and a Prosperous 2023!

Hello GoodDay, may you be surrounded by peace, success and happiness on this seasonal occasion. Spread the WikiLove by wishing another user a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past, a good friend, or just some random person. Sending you heartfelt and warm greetings for Christmas and New Year 2023. Happy editing, Iggy (Swan) (Contribs) 20:17, 22 December 2022 (UTC) Spread the love by adding {{subst:Seasonal Greetings}} to other user talk pages.

Thanks, @Iggy the Swan:. -- GoodDay (talk) 20:18, 22 December 2022 (UTC)

re Ford

I'm putting this here because it's not about the article, it's about you in particular. Here is the entry for Nixon before this started:

37	[img]	Richard Nixon (1913–1994) [1]	January 20, 1969 – August 9, 1974[a]		Republican	1968 1972	Spiro Agnew[b] Vacant: October 10 – December 6, 1973 Gerald Ford[c]

Here you can see: The 37th president was Nixon. He was elected in 1968 and 1972, and se served until 1974, which has a footnote explaining why his term ended at an off-standard period, the standard period defined in the opening prose.

Now let's look at the Ford entry, again before my discussion started:

38	[img]	Gerald Ford (1913–2006) [2]	August 9, 1974 – January 20, 1977		Republican	–	Vacant through December 19, 1974 Nelson Rockefeller[a]

Here you can see: The 38th president was Gerald Ford. He was ... not elected. Weird. Why not? There's no footnote on his election or term dates that explains it.

You have to look at the other entry to find out why.

You don't have to do that with Nixon. Nixon is entirely self-contained. There's no reason we can't just as easily make Ford self-contained.

Do you understand now where I'm coming from with this? --Golbez (talk) 18:33, 23 December 2022 (UTC)

@Golbez: Tyler, Fillmore, A. Johnson, Arthur, T. Roosevelt, Coolidge, Truman & L. Johnson succeeded to the presidency upon the death of their predecessors. They weren't immediately elected, upon their predecessors' deaths. PS- You're looking for a solution, where there's no problem. GoodDay (talk) 18:43, 23 December 2022 (UTC)

... I ... I simply can't understand you. Yes, I know they weren't elected. We have to inform the reader of this unusual circumstance. I don't understand why you think this is acceptable, and I'm starting to think we simply can't work together. I genuinely do not comprehend your thought process. Between this and your strange holy war against accessibility... Yeah, I think we're just done here. --Golbez (talk) 20:22, 23 December 2022 (UTC)

I see no way readers will be confused as to why Ford succeeded Nixon as president. Anyways, you don't need 'me' to consent to whatever type of changes you have in mind. Present your proposal to the talkpage of the page-in-question & seek a consensus from the others. GoodDay (talk) 20:31, 23 December 2022 (UTC)

Happy new year

Hey Goodday. I hope you have a happy year 2023! Regards, Thinker78 (talk) 18:19, 1 January 2023 (UTC)

And a happy 2023 to you (@Thinker78:), as well. GoodDay (talk) 19:52, 1 January 2023 (UTC)

Happy New Year, GoodDay!

Happy New Year!

GoodDay,
Have a prosperous, productive and enjoyable New Year, and thanks for your contributions to Wikipedia.
— Moops ^⋠T⋡ 20:14, 1 January 2023 (UTC)

   Send New Year cheer by adding {{subst:Happy New Year fireworks}} to user talk pages.

— Moops ^⋠T⋡ 20:14, 1 January 2023 (UTC)

HAPPY 2023 to you (@Moops:), as well. GoodDay (talk) 20:15, 1 January 2023 (UTC)

Happy New Year!

		Happy New Year!
		Hey GoodDay, Looking backwards, looking forwards, best wishes for the New Year. Happy wikifying! (Regardless of UTC, it is still January 1 where I'm posting!) Mr Serjeant Buzfuz (talk) 02:22, 2 January 2023 (UTC)

HAPPY 2023 (@Mr Serjeant Buzfuz:) to you. GoodDay (talk) 02:24, 2 January 2023 (UTC)

RFC on successors to office

Hi GoodDay, regarding Doug Ducey and infobox, the HTML comment for "successor" mentions an RFC. Do you know where that RFC can be located? Elizium23 (talk) 04:36, 2 January 2023 (UTC)

@Elizium23:, here's the RFC at Village pump. GoodDay (talk) 04:45, 2 January 2023 (UTC)

Perfect. Thanks and happy new year! Elizium23 (talk) 04:50, 2 January 2023 (UTC)

Happy 2023, to you. GoodDay (talk) 04:52, 2 January 2023 (UTC)