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Geonotice

I'll try and get this up later today. There's no coordinates, but Gabriel's suggested another one at Boston with "approximately 100 mile radius" - are you happy for me to use the same area? Andrew Gray (talk) 10:51, 2 November 2012 (UTC)

Oops, I messed up the formatting when I was creating it! I had some coordinates, but it looks like I somehow left those out. But yes, Gabriel's coordinates should work just as well. Thanks! – GorillaWarfare (talk) 13:25, 2 November 2012 (UTC)

It seems they were there but were commented out! They do look very much smaller than Gabriel's, though - I've used your original ones, but if you think the others are preferable it should be easy enough to switch. Andrew Gray (talk) 22:55, 2 November 2012 (UTC)

By the way, we've a request up for another WLL event in Cambridge MA - I've left a note asking if it might be worth merging them. Thoughts appreciated. Andrew Gray (talk) 10:16, 3 November 2012 (UTC)

Sure, might as well switch to Gabriel's coordinates. I wasn't sure how small to go, so I erred on the smaller side. – GorillaWarfare (talk) 14:00, 3 November 2012 (UTC)

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C++

Please don't imply that there are no sources for C++ Exception Handling provided on this page already. — Preceding unsigned comment added by ExcessPhase (talk • contribs)

I have moved this message here, as you mistakenly edited my user page with it. Please be sure you're editing user talk pages and not user pages in the future.

The text that you have added is quite opinionated. For example, "C++ without Exception Handling is kind of useless" is an opinion, not a generally-accepted fact. There are derivatives of C++ (such as Embedded C++) that exclude exceptions, and they are not "kind of useless". The text you've added appears to be entirely original research, and without specific sources to back it up, will be removed. You cannot claim that the information you are adding is cited somewhere in the 46 references on that page; that is much too vague.

I would furthermore suggest that you stop reverting back to your content without changing it. This is edit warring and can result in a block from editing. – GorillaWarfare (talk) 18:13, 7 November 2012 (UTC)

"edit waring" -- I agree! But who are you to tell me that this is just a personal POV? I think my "opinion" about C++ is king of relevant having used Exception Handling for more than 16 years. That the wikipedia page does not contain a mentioning of C++ exception Handling until now is kind of embarassing. Years ago I added the section regarding Exception and constructors in the C++ page of wikibooks. BTW -- how to I add a reference to the C++ page regarding phobia? — Preceding unsigned comment added by ExcessPhase (talk • contribs) 18:31, 7 November 2012 (UTC)

"kind of useless" -- this assumes that a programmer cares about things which may go wrong -- many don't. I explained the reason behind this "opinion". Many people with a different opinion are the people which don't care about a certain level of quality. I know that there are "C++" implementations without C++ Exception Handling. Somewhere I said: "I would refuse writing a complex application for such platforms in the same way that I would refuse writing a complex application in assembler code." — Preceding unsigned comment added by ExcessPhase (talk • contribs) 18:24, 7 November 2012 (UTC)

"kind of useless" -- this also assumes that we are talking about code, for which things may go wrong. So if your code is just a CPU heater, there is no need for C++ Exception Handling. But as soon as you're calling fallible calls like allocating memory or open files or writing files or tcp socket this does apply. — Preceding unsigned comment added by ExcessPhase (talk • contribs) 18:43, 7 November 2012 (UTC)

Relevant or not, your opinion is still uncited opinion. Wikipedia has a policy against inclusion of original research — please read that page, as it appears you have not. As for learning out to add a reference, Wikipedia:Referencing for beginners is a good guide. – GorillaWarfare (talk) 18:38, 7 November 2012 (UTC)

name calling on swarm talk page

• The person who removed the link did so just because I provided the link.
• The person who removed the link did so without knowledge of the contents of the link or the relevance of the link.
• I did talk with the author of the page before about the relevance of the link.
• The link was relevant to the page
• Thus removing the link was an act of sabotage against me personally not the removal of spam or similar
• How would you call such a person? — Preceding unsigned comment added by ExcessPhase (talk • contribs) 19:03, 7 November 2012 (UTC)

• Have they told you this? I would have also removed the link, simply because of its irrelevance to the page.
• Have they told you this as well? It's hard for me to believe that this editor removed the link without clicking on it.
• Wikipedia pages do not have a single author. See WP:OWN.
• No, it was not. There are plenty of media files on that page that offer the same information as your screensaver that do not require the download of possibly damaging files.
• Again, you are inferring this without assuming good faith.
• I would not resort to name-calling, as it is damaging to the Wikipedia project as a whole. – GorillaWarfare (talk) 19:08, 7 November 2012 (UTC)

A bowl of strawberries for you!

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Damn, that's a nice combination of a nickname and a user photo, ahahahahah. I like that. ~Nirvanchik~ ^⊤άλҟ 12:24, 12 November 2012 (UTC)

Thank you :) – GorillaWarfare (talk) 17:31, 12 November 2012 (UTC)

I am not testing wikilove and also send you bowls of virtual fruit. But then I got virtually hungry... and ate it. How was your library workshop? – SJ + 00:17, 13 November 2012 (UTC)

It went well! We didn't do much editing of the articles like we'd planned, but we spoke with quite a few people (mostly elementary-school aged children) about Wikipedia. – GorillaWarfare (talk) 00:31, 13 November 2012 (UTC)

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Boise State Football Page

I received this message from you "I noticed that you recently removed some content from Boise State Broncos football without explaining why. In the future, it would be helpful to others if you described your changes to Wikipedia with an edit summary. If this was a mistake, don't worry, the removed content has been restored. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thanks, – GorillaWarfare (talk) 13:41, 14 November 2012 (UTC)"

I removed the "1 finalist" from the column on "heisman winners" for two reasons. 1 because it is atypical for football pages to list their finalists under winners, and it seems to me that the standard is to list the number of winners. 2 because a mere heisman finalist by definition is not a heisman winner. It is a 2nd through 5th place finish. It makes as much sense to list finalists under a category for winners as it does to list 3rd place finishes in a category labelled "conference titles". Sorry for not putting any explanation next to my edit when I performed it, but ^^this was my reasoning for making the edit. Thanks. (Veritas KGB (talk) 13:49, 14 November 2012 (UTC))

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Please be aware that this nonsense page has already been deleted before - consider preventing future creation. הסרפד (Hasirpad) [formerly Ratz...bo] 19:19, 26 November 2012 (UTC)

Ah, so it has. I've salted the page for two weeks—that should be sufficient, I think. – GorillaWarfare (talk) 19:22, 26 November 2012 (UTC)

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Henry Ian Cusick

This isn't a serious issue, obviously, but was there a reason Henry Ian Cusick wanted that image used? It's just because I, personally, think the old image was much better. I'm not trying to fight it, or whatever, I was just wondering. Gran² 11:11, 1 December 2012 (UTC)

I'm not sure why he prefers that photo, but I'd be inclined to stick with it as per his preference. It's not a bad photo for illustrating the article, and I'd guess it's more recent. – GorillaWarfare (talk) 19:16, 1 December 2012 (UTC)

Okay, no problem, thanks. Gran² 13:06, 2 December 2012 (UTC)

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KUBA Ka

17:34, 6 December 2012 (diff | hist) . . (0)‎ . . m Talk:KUBA Ka ‎ (GorillaWarfare moved page Talk:Kuba Ka to Talk:KUBA Ka over redirect: Format title as the artist uses it) (top)

The artist does not "use it". It is the way how their PR staff writes some names:

Truly a life force with a “TWISTER” like dynamism, KUBA creates all-new entertainment formats to wow audiences. For more than a decade, KUBA has captivated the imagination of millions in Europe, on stage, radio, and television. He became the first artist after Michael Jackson to be represented by legendary entertainment manager – Frank Dileo.

DAILY VARIETY wrote: “Dileo, who once managed the late Michael Jackson, has hitched his wagon to Polish mega-watt performer KUBA Ka, who plans to establish a beachhead in the U.S.” Dileo mentioned during the interview for VARIETY: “I am delighted to start an association with KUBA and his production company.” Frank Dileo said in his press statement about KUBA: “He’s an incredibly unique and versatile performer with an imaginative dynamic vision for his far-reaching projects. We think his one-of-a-kind talent will translate extraordinarily with U.S. and international audiences.”

Steve SILK Hurley, who recorded with KUBA a hot dance song called “PHYSICAL ATTRACTION”, and did club mix of “IN THE STREETS”.

Also, regardless how artist writes it, in his PR, obviously newspapers don't think so, an wikipedia has its own rules about exsessive capitalization in titles, and there was an extensive discussion about this. (You may want to know that many companies just love to shout their names in all caps.)

Anyway, after an attempt to improve the article I decided it is AfD-worthy, and further discussion about atricle title is postponed until the outcome. Staszek Lem (talk) 19:02, 6 December 2012 (UTC)

The artist uses this capitalization on his website, Twitter, etc. That said, I too think it's wise to postpone further discussion until after the AfD runs its course. – GorillaWarfare (talk) 19:17, 6 December 2012 (UTC)

Yes, my quote is from his website, where capitalization is ...er... liberal. Twitter quote:"Entertainer, called the STAGE ANIMAL". ORLY? Staszek Lem (talk) 19:21, 6 December 2012 (UTC)

Notability of KUBA Ka

I've added more references of KUBA Ka. Do I need to add more? Please, help. TanweerIKhan 07:23, 8 December 2012 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nickaang (talk • contribs)

I'd suggest asking this at the deletion debate. I am not the person who nominated it for deletion, nor can I alone decide whether the article is kept or deleted. – GorillaWarfare (talk) 07:29, 8 December 2012 (UTC)

Thank you! NickAang 18:18, 11 December 2012 (UTC)

The notoriuos wiki troll ( Iaaasi) returned

Hello!

The well known chauvinist romanian wiki-troll User:Iaaasi returned (with a new croatian fake identity) He is now active alias user: Irji2012 He is often active in Hungarian-related aricles, he enjoy edit-warring deleting good sources and sentences from important articles, and he like to break the rules of wiki even 3 revert rule. Can you arrange about this notorious wiki-troll? Thank you! Peter. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.0.49.97 (talk) 10:54, 8 December 2012 (UTC)

CityNightLine

I'm so sorry, I had a bad experience on a train last week and just felt so angry. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.28.126.134 (talk) 11:49, 9 December 2012 (UTC)

I would suggest taking that up with them directly, not involving Wikipedia in the issue. – GorillaWarfare (talk) 19:42, 9 December 2012 (UTC)

Edit vandalism by user 108.179.25.130

Hi, I'm not sure if this is where I should be bringing this up, so, I'm sorry if this isn't the right place to be doing this... But the user with the IP address of 108.179.25.130 has been vandalizing the List of Heisman Trophy winners Wikipedia page, similar to the vandalizing that he did to T. Y. Hilton's page earlier and that he did today (Dec. 10th). Is there anything else that can be done to protect against more of his vandalizing? Thanks, and sorry for any bothering.... 174.56.61.210 (talk) 21:46, 10 December 2012 (UTC)

This user appears to have stopped, so I'm not going to block him. That said, in the future, these sorts of things should be reported to WP:AIV. – GorillaWarfare (talk) 23:05, 10 December 2012 (UTC)

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'Tis that season again...

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	Hope you, your boyfriend, and your family are enjoying the holiday season, Gorilla! Ed [talk] [majestic titan] 06:03, 25 December 2012 (UTC)

Merry Christmas to you too, Eddie! Hope it was lovely :) – GorillaWarfare (talk) 19:50, 25 December 2012 (UTC)

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Reply to your Message

Hi I made an incorrect edit on Redfoo, and you correctly took it out, though there are numerous other inaccuracies on the page. I am in no way related to that guy, but just a college student trying to figure out how you guys pick up such spams. Could you tell me how you got notified of the bad edit I made?

- Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.99.110.251 (talk) 05:08, 1 July 2013 (UTC)

AfC

This article was based on first hand experience and due to sensitivities you may sources that know what I know — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.166.152.98 (talk) 15:22, 25 February 2013 (UTC)

Because you have not signed in and you've not edited the article to which you're referring with this account, I have no idea which article you're talking about. If you'd be a little more specific, I could discuss this with you in more detail. That said, Wikipedia cannot accept articles that are based on firsthand experience, as that is considered to be original research. All information in Wikipedia articles must be verifiable in reliable sources. – GorillaWarfare (talk) 15:30, 25 February 2013 (UTC)

Request for guidance.

Hi Gorillawarfare. You gave me some super help on 30 May 2013. I hope I could ask you another question: now on my edit page I find the intimidating notice:

'WARNING: Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Action on Addiction is 13,716 bytes. If it is not a redirect with only 1 edit in its edit history, this may be a "copy and paste" move. To avoid losing the edit history, administrators should consider merging the history of the AfC draft into this article. Non-administrators should consider placing {{histmerge|Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Action on Addiction}} at the top of this article before removing this AFC submission template.'

What should I do? I don't actually understand the directions (I realise they are probably obvious, but I don't know how to merge the history of the AfC draft into this article'...) Will my article be deleted? Is it okay to just leave it as it is?

I will try to improve the detail in the article (to raise it from C-class). Just need time to learn how... If there is a better place to ask this question, pls let me know. I did hope for an answer from you though.

Thanks in advance and thank you for the Barnstar!!

User: koji at 47koji01

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Hello, Ktgrell here, this is my first attempt a submitting something to Wikipedia . May I ask for guidance? What is the specific thing (or things) that are preventing my submission from being accepted? Thank you for your help!

Ktgrell (talk) 20:19, 25 February 2013 (UTC)

The main issue with the article is with the citations. In order to demonstrate that the band is notable, you need to show that it has significant coverage in reliable sources. "Significant coverage" in this sense means more than just a trivial mention; inclusion in a list of songs on a playlist is trivial coverage, whereas a full writeup is not. "Reliable sources" can be a little bit more difficult to interpret when the subject is a band, as there are multitudes of blogs and personal websites out there, some of which are reliable, some of which are not. I typically try to defer to WP:USERGENERATED, which clarifies a bit.

To break down the sources that you've provided:

• Five sources appear to be from relatively small newspapers, the Hickory Daily Record and the Addison Post. Newspapers are good sources, but the information you've provided about the coverage is lacking. From the citations, we only know the name of the paper and the date of publication. There is no link provided; links are ideal if the newspaper publishes material online, but they're not necessary. There is also no title provided, which is much more of a problem; even if someone had access to the papers, they could not verify the information. From what you've provided here, there's no way of knowing if the mention of the band was substantial, trivial, or even existent at all.
• Four blog sources. Like I said, establishing the usefulness of a blog in determining notability is difficult. Out of the four, I would say that the CC2K source is probably strongest, followed by Froglix, though they're both pretty small sources. I would not consider the other two to be helpful towards establishing notability.
• One extremely unreliable source. With user-submitted content, Urban Dictionary should really never be cited. I'd strongly suggest removing this altogether.
• Three trivial mentions ([1], [2], and [3]). Two of these are mentions of songs in playlists, the third is a vague link to website which, when searched, turns up a mention or two of Leaving Venus joining them.

In order for the article to meet the notability guidelines, you'll either need to demonstrate that it meets the specific notability guidelines for music, or that it meets the general notability guideline. You'll need a good number of additional, strong sources to do so.

I should mention that I've noticed your username is somewhat similar to the surname of one of the band members, which makes me wonder if you have a conflict of interest. Though this does not prohibit you from writing the article, it is strongly suggested that people with conflicts of interest do not write about the subjects with which they're affiliated. I hope this was helpful. – GorillaWarfare (talk) 22:02, 25 February 2013 (UTC)

Dear GorillaWarfare

Thank you for your thoughtful review and comments. As you know, I've made some significant edits to the page based on your feedback and resubmitted it to be rejected a second time. It sounds as though the second rejection was exclusively for a conflict of interest. To address it, please let me say this; my surname does match the surname of one of the band members but I have no relationship to the other two fellows. This is something I cannot change. Would this page be more acceptable if one the band's biggest fans submitted the page instead of me?

Once again, I thank you for your feedback!

Best regards,

Ktgrell (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 14:41, 13 March 2013 (UTC)

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Fleksy

Hi there, just wanted to thank you for going over my article for Fleksy. You are welcome to improve it, and please let me know if you have any suggestions. I will be adding more citations to make things clearer on some claims :) Nautilus1284 (talk) 22:40, 25 February 2013 (UTC)

You're welcome! Thank you for writing the article. One suggestion I do have is try to fix the orphan issue; if there are any articles that mention/should mention Fleksy, add the link! That said, don't feel the need to artificially introduce a link into an article if it's only tangentially related. – GorillaWarfare (talk) 23:20, 25 February 2013 (UTC)

Wikipedia entry Professor Sir Andy Haines

Hi

Please can you give some advice as to the type of reliable sources I could use. Where available I have referred to published peer reviewed papers but am not sure what else I should be using.

Thank you! RParker75 (talk) 10:01, 27 February 2013 (UTC)

The Tea Leaf - Issue Seven (special Birthday recap)

A celebratory cupcake from the Teahouse Birthday Badge

It's been a full year since the Teahouse opened, and as we're reflecting on what's been accomplished, we wanted to celebrate with you.

Teahouse guests and hosts are sharing their stories in a new blog post about the project.

1 year statistics for Teahouse visitors compared to invited non-visitors from the pilot:

Metric	Control group	Teahouse group	Contrast
Average retention (weeks with at least 1 edit)	5.02 weeks	8.57 weeks	1.7x retention
Average number of articles edited	58.7 articles	116.9 edits	2.0x articles edited
Average talk page edits	36.5 edits	85.6 edits	2.4x talk page edits
Average article space edits	129.6 edits	360.4 edits	2.8x article edits
Average total edits (all namespaces)	182.1 edits	532.4 edits	2.9x total edits

Over the past year almost 2000 questions have been asked and answered, 669 editors have introduced themselves, 1670 guests have been served, 867 experienced Wikipedians have participated in the project, and 137 have served as hosts. Read more project analysis in our CSCW 2013 paper

Last month January was our most active month so far! 78 profiles were created, 46 active hosts answered 263 questions, and 11 new hosts joined the project.

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GOCE mid-March 2013 newsletter

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A barnstar for you!

	The Admin's Barnstar
	For actually responding to a request for help on IRC (you were the 11th admin I asked and the only to respond) and for quickly helping out with a vandalism situation, I hereby award you this barnstar. You are a credit to the adminship. :) Neutralhomer • Talk • 17:17, 30 March 2013 (UTC)

Aw, thank you so much! – GorillaWarfare (talk) 17:19, 30 March 2013 (UTC)

You're Welcome! :) - Neutralhomer • Talk • 17:20, 30 March 2013 (UTC)

GOCE April 2013 newsletter

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Empathy in personality disorders

Hi. It's my first time submitting an edited wikipedia article and I would like your feedback. I wrote about empathy in personality disorders, more specifically borderline personality disorder and psychopathic disorder. Can you read my sandbox or should I copy paste my edits in your talk page? Thanks! Rudyzaltzman.t (talk) 20:40, 4 April 2013 (UTC)

The edits look good, and great job with the references! My suggestion, however, would be to incorporate the information in that sandbox into each disorder's page—it might be of more use there. – GorillaWarfare (talk) 23:39, 4 April 2013 (UTC)

Help Project newsletter : Issue 6

The Help Project Newsletter	Issue VI - April 2013
Open Help Conference The Open Help Conference will be taking place June 15-19 in Cincinnati Ohio, USA. The conference includes two days of presentations and open discussions, followed by team "sprints" - collaborative efforts to write and improve documentation. It has been suggested to send a team from Wikipedia/Wikimedia: to share our own knowledge about help, learn from others in the open source community working on similar problems, and to carry out a sprint to improve some aspect of Wikipedia's help. There may be support available for volunteers to attend from the Participation Support program (and your editor is certainly hoping to be there!) Please join the discussion in Meta's IdeaLab if you're interested, and/or have suggestions about what we could work on.	Other news The Article Feedback Tool (v5) has now been changed to be opt-in for all pages. It can be enabled for specific pages by adding Category:Article Feedback 5 to them. There are also a number of new features. It has been proposed to merge the questions forum of the New contributors' help page into the Teahouse. Discussion is taking place here. The help menu at Help:Contents/Browse and its subpages have been largely cleaned up. User:Moxy has created a descriptive help directory. A project on Video and Interactive Tutorials has begun, supported by a Wikimedia Foundation grant. Suggestions for subjects are invited on the talk page.
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GOCE April 2013 newsletter

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User:Patriotcanon

Where was this supposed legal threat made? I'm confused. --Orange Mike | Talk 18:27, 22 May 2013 (UTC)

The issue arose at Wikipedia:Help desk#Carspear, q.v. --Orange Mike | Talk 18:31, 22 May 2013 (UTC)

I have replied there, to try to keep the discussion in one place. – GorillaWarfare (talk) 18:37, 22 May 2013 (UTC)

Moore tornado

There are many other sources that clearly state that there were no fatalities. I am currently on a mobile device so that was why I was unable to provide any. Sharkguy05 is fixing to get himself blocked. He sent me a hateful message that failed both WP:AGF and WP:NPA. Not to mention going over the WP:3RR many times. United States Man (talk) 00:34, 27 May 2013 (UTC)

Yes, I've been discussing this on IRC and I agree that the majority of sources firmly state there were no fatalities. I agree that the one source, though it is NBC, does not trump the many others contradicting it. I'll keep an eye on Sharkguy for a bit. – GorillaWarfare (talk) 00:38, 27 May 2013 (UTC)

This (from the evening of May 25) specifically says there were no fatalities. I have also seen various sources reporting that 10 children were killed (7 at Plaza Towers, 2-below school age-at home, and 1-below school age-at 7-11). If that doesn't wrap this up, I don't know what does. United States Man (talk) 00:47, 27 May 2013 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Barnstar of Diligence
	Even as an administrator, you have not only displayed a distinct sense of professionalism in your edits, but a true heart of community service. :) JustBerry (talk) 18:11, 28 May 2013 (UTC)

Thank you :) – GorillaWarfare (talk) 18:21, 28 May 2013 (UTC)

Hello fellow Google Summer of Code participant!

Hello,

I saw your application for Google Summer of Code; just wanted to say hi as a fellow participant and Wikipedian, although my project isn't for Wikimedia.

Great work on the Pentagon Papers on Wikisource by the way! I think it's an incredibly important project. I hope to help with transcription in the future. InverseHypercube (talk) 18:24, 30 May 2013 (UTC)

Hello! Your project looks very interesting! Definitely a little more academic than mine, though :) Thanks for offering to help with the Pentagon Papers! There's a long way to go, so any help is much appreciated. – GorillaWarfare (talk) 22:38, 30 May 2013 (UTC)

Great! I'll work on it when I have time, though I'm unfamiliar with the formatting of the pages. Good luck with your project! InverseHypercube (talk) 04:03, 31 May 2013 (UTC)

I've tried to record some of the specific formatting we've been applying on the talk page, though it's anything but comprehensive. Do you use AutoWikiBrowser at all? If so, I have some find-and-replace regular expressions that I could pass along. – GorillaWarfare (talk) 13:53, 31 May 2013 (UTC)

I don't use AWB, but I do use another regex tool so some regular expressions would definitely come in handy! InverseHypercube (talk) 21:36, 31 May 2013 (UTC)

Alrighty, I've added some of my find/replace rules at the talk page. – GorillaWarfare (talk) 02:16, 1 June 2013 (UTC)

Thank you, that's great! InverseHypercube (talk) 03:21, 1 June 2013 (UTC)

Talkback

Hello. You have a new message at Jcc's talk page. jcc (tea and biscuits) 16:13, 31 May 2013 (UTC)

Talkback 2

Hello. You have a new message at Jcc's talk page. jcc (tea and biscuits) 16:13, 31 May 2013 (UTC)

Block evasion by

I believe that Ann1231988 (talk · contribs) is evading their block with a sock, namely G61988 (talk · contribs) who has just recreated Solid Roads Ltd previously created as Solid Roads. - MrX 14:16, 1 June 2013 (UTC)

It would appear that way. Thank you for letting me know; I've blocked the sock as well. – GorillaWarfare (talk) 14:59, 1 June 2013 (UTC)

Possible AfD for Helene Langevin

I'm not sure how to do this smoothly, but I suspect this article doesn't establish her notability well enough. -- Brangifer (talk) 17:17, 1 June 2013 (UTC)

There are instructions at Wikipedia:AfD#Nominating article(s) for deletion. That said, I'm not sure why you think she's non-notable. – GorillaWarfare (talk) 17:20, 1 June 2013 (UTC)

She may be notable, but it needs to be established better using secondary sources. Isn't that the idea? -- Brangifer (talk) 18:16, 1 June 2013 (UTC)

The sources the article has now are not so lacking as to warrant an AfD, though. It would be better to just improve the sourcing. – GorillaWarfare (talk) 22:05, 1 June 2013 (UTC)

It has been improved, so no problem anymore. Her methodologies have been seriously criticized, but that content can be added later. -- Brangifer (talk) 23:06, 1 June 2013 (UTC)

GOCE May drive wrap-up

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Jim Rose Circus

i just wanted to thank you..im new heres the response i posted "thank you for input..everything i added is very relevant..i shouldnt be penalized for showing up late to the wiki party...first it was 1992 not the date you cited 2/ my show got more press than the headliners on that tour with the exception of pearl jam...lollapalooza wanted me to get all the press so they could establish a second stage for the future... its well documented that eddie vedder and i became best friends on that tour in several books..i could go on and on but really..the person who i should have civil discourse with is lugnuts and i would like to approach him in the appropriate manner and am not sure how..do i just go to his page and start a new headline using edit? or is there a chat mechanism that im missing?..PLEASE look at any lollapalooza history for 92 and you will see that I'm mentioned more than almost everyone..and thats articles all the way up to current times..l.a times did a cover feature on me..same with usa today..rolling stone called me the must see event and under whats hot proclaimed a jim rose circus tee shirt from lollapalooza" thanks :) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Markfinkbine (talk • contribs) 13:20, 6 June 2013 (UTC)

I will respond there. – GorillaWarfare (talk) 14:40, 6 June 2013 (UTC)

The Seventh Seal

It's not too hard to back up those statements from literature about Bergman (interviews and research about him, and his own books). Bergman on Bergman (1970) has a dozen pages of Bergman opening up about the shoot and the circumstances around it to a trio of quick-witted movie critics. I've seen TSS like seven times and have talked to people doing research on it, so Í'm definitely not doing idle gushing about the film. This is rather well-known stuff, though I'd probably source it from texts in Swedish not just in English. Give me a few days though, it's night here. 83.254.151.33 (talk) 02:28, 10 June 2013 (UTC)

Mexican Songs

I have made edits to this article but I don't believe them to be unconstructive or vandalism. The songs selection is from Un Canto De México a collection of Mexicos most well known songs.99.176.6.203 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 02:41, 10 June 2013 (UTC)

User:Stoölenmäärchen

Hi, Crouon Crouton Croutson is a sock of Technoquat as well. GiantSnowman 13:59, 13 June 2013 (UTC)

Oh, fair enough. – GorillaWarfare (talk) 14:07, 13 June 2013 (UTC)

Sock puppetry

Bit rushed, but it looks like you-know-who has got an IP sock; I've readded the AFD and MFD notices and removed the material they added to someone elses's take page. Pinkbeast (talk) 19:54, 16 June 2013 (UTC)

Bhimsen Joshi

That has gone crazy. Either they are using proxy or multiple people are attacking the article. I am not going to revert more. RFPP will see. --Tito☸Dutta 19:41, 17 June 2013 (UTC)

It's the same person, obviously, like I stated at Wikipedia:Requests for page protection. The article needs long-term semi-protection. Flyer22 (talk) 19:55, 17 June 2013 (UTC)

My apologies; I'd had to step away for my commute. It appears Bishonen has applied the protection though, so it looks like all is in order. – GorillaWarfare (talk) 20:50, 17 June 2013 (UTC)

Thank you for deleting that article however I still have a question

Thank you. So you see that answered my question, kind of. I was correct in my assumption that it was promotional and the next time I shall act on it myself. Or at least vote it for speedy deletion or however it is that you do that. But you see I still have a question about what the process is or what I "should" have done which is the whole purpose for asking a "question" in the first place. Do I have the authority to delete an article or am I suppose to put a template on it or what? THanks TattØØdẄaitre§ lĖTŝ tÅLĶ 03:22, 22 June 2013 (UTC)

Hi! I apologize for not explaining it myself; I was expecting PBASH to do so. For articles like that that should be speedily deleted, you should add the appropriate speedy deletion template from WP:CSD. Keep in mind that an article must meet one of these very specific criteria; otherwise it must be deleted by the PROD or AfD processes. Only administrators have the technical ability to delete articles, but adding a speedy deletion tag will bring the article to our attention. – GorillaWarfare (talk) 05:19, 22 June 2013 (UTC)

Thank you so much for the explanation. PBASH did finally give me an explanation I could understand but not till after I posted here. So all is well. The main thing for me is that my first assumption about the article was correct and I should have more confidence in myself but this is nothing new. THANKS again. TattØØdẄaitre§ lĖTŝ tÅLĶ 06:01, 22 June 2013 (UTC)

No worries! Sometimes it's hard as a new editor to launch into editing, so if you feel uncomfortable with a decision, feel free to add a {{helpme}} template for a second opinion. – GorillaWarfare (talk) 13:29, 22 June 2013 (UTC)

GOCE June/July 2013 events

Guild of Copy Editors July 2013 backlog elimination drive wrap-up newsletter We have completed our June blitz and are about to commence our July backlog elimination drive. The June/July 2013 events newsletter is now ready for review. – Your project coordinators: Torchiest, BDD, and Miniapolis Sign up for the July drive! To discontinue receiving GOCE newsletters, please remove your name from our mailing list. Newsletter delivered by EdwardsBot (talk) 20:11, 24 June 2013 (UTC)

I notice you created uncategorized pages like m:Book management

Please categorize new pages on Meta. There's already a huge backlog there. (Feel free to create new categories as needed.) πr² (t • c) 02:59, 25 June 2013 (UTC)

Ah, sorry. I've done so. – GorillaWarfare (talk) 03:39, 25 June 2013 (UTC)

Thank you! πr² (t • c) 03:43, 25 June 2013 (UTC)

Original Cover Girls block

Just as a general rule, we don't block people for username violations if their only edits are to AFC, as I indicated in my comments at AIV (if that's where you initiated the block from). Daniel Case (talk) 16:00, 25 June 2013 (UTC)

I was asked by a user on IRC. What is the reasoning there? – GorillaWarfare (talk) 16:05, 25 June 2013 (UTC)

Mangoeater1000

One of his confirmed and strongest sock-account remains unblocked: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Marco_Guzman,_Jr --Yograj Khanna (talk) 20:15, 27 June 2013 (UTC)

It looks like it's been blocked since you left the message. In the future, you might want to post this to a noticeboard or something instead of just asking one random administrator—you're liable to get a faster response. – GorillaWarfare (talk) 21:11, 27 June 2013 (UTC)

It actually seems to be the other way around. --Rschen7754 22:37, 27 June 2013 (UTC)

Oh, how did I mess that up? – GorillaWarfare (talk) 23:16, 27 June 2013 (UTC)

Mango is a sockmaster who has started harassing the people who report him and revert him, so he's trying every trick in the book - Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Mangoeater1000. --Rschen7754 23:18, 27 June 2013 (UTC)

Indeed, I looked at the SPI when I was looking into this message. Could have sworn I saw that the user link he gave was blocked when I saw it, but I must have been looking at something else. – GorillaWarfare (talk) 00:06, 28 June 2013 (UTC)

Yeah, it was also mistakenly tagged too. --Rschen7754 00:12, 28 June 2013 (UTC)

Copies of deleted articles

Hi, I found you on the list of administrators willing to provide copies of deleted articles. Can I get a copy of these articles.

• User:Alexbonaro/present day Genovese crime family
• User:Alexbonaro/Genovese crime family circa 1990
• User:Alexbonaro/Genovese crime family circa 1999 (after Cirillo heart attack)

Thank You. --Vic49 (talk) 22:30, 28 June 2013 (UTC)

I typically send these via email. Can you send an email to gorillawarfarewikipediagmail.com so that I can send them to you? – GorillaWarfare (talk) 22:35, 28 June 2013 (UTC)

You asked...

User:PantherLeapord is an editor that has a few bumps along the way, and needs adoption. Please drop by and consider if you have the time and inclination. Dennis Brown | 2¢ | © | WER 18:56, 29 June 2013 (UTC)

I'd be happy to help the user, although it appears xe's already had a few offers. – GorillaWarfare (talk) 18:59, 29 June 2013 (UTC)

I see, that is good, hope that works out. During this time of year, you can't hang out a "looking for an adoptee" shingle for very long without getting pinged, as you just found :) I will keep you in mind, however, as my observation of you tells me you have the right demeanor for the job. Dennis Brown | 2¢ | © | WER 19:03, 29 June 2013 (UTC)

You might read the talk page of user:Retrolord. It is complicated, and he hasn't asked for a mentor, but you might be able to offer a little guidance from time to time there. Big bumps along the way, but I think he really has some good intentions. He is just a bit impulsive. Dennis Brown | 2¢ | © | WER 19:07, 29 June 2013 (UTC)

Can do. I would prefer an adoptee who really wants to be adopted, rather than being funneled there when they start to act up, as I find they tend to be a little more passionate about the whole process. That said, feel free to keep me in mind if you see anyone. – GorillaWarfare (talk) 19:09, 29 June 2013 (UTC)

I will. I think I have got him on the road to "turned around" and pointed in the right direction. What I think he needs is some encouragement and someone who he can ask questions to without fear of being judged. That is why I thought you would be good, not as a mentor as much as offering to be a sounding board when he needs it. You aren't nearly as mean as your name implies ;) Dennis Brown | 2¢ | © | WER 19:13, 29 June 2013 (UTC)

Maher (NGO)

Hi! Maybe you remember me, I requested some help about writing an article of the ngo I volunteer for and after we spoke about the difficulties with requested articles (it is unlikely that it will be created in the next time) I decided to write it myself - and try my best to write it neutrally (and if possible critically). Now I finished the article as far as possible - I would be glad if it is possible for you to review it: Articles for Creation: Maher (NGO).

Greetings, Lex

P.S.: I tried to find tertiary sources with critical comments about the organisation, but couldn't find any (only statements from an interview with the founder about difficulties in the beginning - and as it is a primary source, I didn't put it i Asenox (talk) 11:26, 1 July 2013 (UTC)

Hi Lex. I do remember you. The article looks alright at a glance, but I don't have time right now to do an in-depth review. Hopefully it will be reviewed shortly; otherwise, I'll try to take a look at it when I have a few spare minutes. – GorillaWarfare (talk) 14:17, 1 July 2013 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Barnstar of Good Humor
	Thanks for helping me on the Teahouse freenode channel! Matty.007 19:10, 1 July 2013 (UTC)

Block request

Hi, Can you please block my alt account, Cookies52 (talk · contribs), as I feel someone may have got hold of the password. A fairly neutral block summary would be appreciated. Thanks, Mdann52 (talk) 20:34, 1 July 2013 (UTC)

 Done – GorillaWarfare (talk) 20:37, 1 July 2013 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Admin's Barnstar
	Thanks a lot for your willingness, shown every time I needed help/suggestions. Dэя-Бøяg 01:34, 2 July 2013 (UTC)

Articles for creation/Jean Michel Gibert

hello

Your comments are duly noted. will review and try again.

Thanks Michele

CMG2012 (talk) 19:40, 2 July 2013 (UTC)

Great, good luck. – GorillaWarfare (talk) 20:12, 2 July 2013 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Brilliant Idea Barnstar
	GorillaWarfare has extremely brilliant, accurate, and well-thought-out ideas. Sincerely, JustBerry JustBerry (talk) 01:49, 3 July 2013 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Barnstar of Diligence
	Without a doubt, GorillaWarfare is a determined person who strives to reach out to other users, both on Wikipedia and on IRC, in a genuine and friendly manner. She is diligent in achieving high accuracy, precision, and definitely community service as a whole. Sincerely, JustBerry JustBerry (talk) 01:52, 3 July 2013 (UTC)

A cookie for you!

For your diligent, hard working ethics! JustBerry (talk) 01:53, 3 July 2013 (UTC)

Some baklava for you!

Enjoy your baklava! My adoptee, OscarLake valued your help about your help on the Teahouse freenode. Matty.007 18:34, 3 July 2013 (UTC)

BAFA

Hello, no idea what I am doing or if this is the right way to contact you. My name is Mel Biscombe and I am head of the UK American Football Leagues (BAFANL) and a board member of the British American Football Association (BAFA). I understand there has been talk of deleting all our team pages. Please could you let me know how I can help our teams meet the requirements? Thank you

Each team needs to meet the notability guideline, which states that it must be shown that there has been significant coverage of the team in reliable sources that are independent of the subject. Many of these articles do not have any such sources at all, and many of them are written with a very biased tone. I'm going to go through and try to clean up the tone issue and see what sources I can find, but if there are no sources showing notability for an article, it may be deleted. – GorillaWarfare (talk) 13:12, 6 July 2013 (UTC)

Talkback

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JustBerry (talk) 21:55, 7 July 2013 (UTC)

 Done

Rollback Rights

Hi GorillaWarfare,

I know it's a little early on in the adoption course to ask, but by when do you think I may be granted for rollback rights? I am planning to use STiki. --JustBerry (talk) 22:17, 7 July 2013 (UTC)

You need a history of good vandalism reverts before you'll be considered for rollbacker. Be patient, and keep on with Lupin's tool for a while. – GorillaWarfare (talk) 22:19, 7 July 2013 (UTC)

Okay, was just wondering. --JustBerry (talk) 22:36, 7 July 2013 (UTC)

IRC

{{User:JustBerry/IRC}}

I run my IRC client in a screen instance on a friend's server, so I always appear online. If I don't reply quickly, it's probably because I'm detached from the server—that said, I'll still get your messages when I get back. When I'm at my computer, I'm always on IRC, so leaving me notes like this won't really speed things up. – GorillaWarfare (talk) 02:59, 8 July 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for the feedback; this was only an idea that suddenly popped into my head. I figured I would try it with you, as you give extensive, detailed feedback, which is certainly great. Thanks again. --JustBerry (talk) 19:29, 8 July 2013 (UTC)

"Attack" User Page

Please let me know what you think of this: User:BuckMuckPluckSuck/sandbox. --JustBerry (talk) 20:07, 8 July 2013 (UTC)

As a follow-up, and according to the attack page template, I put a notice on the talk page as well: User_talk:BuckMuckPluckSuck/sandbox --JustBerry (talk) 20:10, 8 July 2013 (UTC)

(Discussed on IRC) – GorillaWarfare (talk) 20:27, 8 July 2013 (UTC)

 Done

User:Makeahero

Do you want to take responsibility for this account? Otherwise, I will block them for their user name and promotion (there's also the copyright infringement).--Bbb23 (talk) 21:57, 8 July 2013 (UTC)

I see that you've already done so, which seems wise. Out of curiosity, why did you contact me regarding this? I don't see that I've had any interaction with the editor in the past, although I could easily be forgetting something. – GorillaWarfare (talk) 04:30, 9 July 2013 (UTC)

Actually, I had not blocked the user (now I have). The only reason I came to you was because the user's case bore some similarities to the user I blocked the other day. If you recall you came to my talk page asking me to change the block because you wanted to work with the user. Both users were involved with a non-profit organization that might, if done properly, merit an article on Wikiedia (I haven't researched this user's organization). The exact sequence of events with the other user wasn't clear to me. Apparently, you spoke with her at IRC, but I wasn't sure if that happened before or after I blocked her. Anyway, all of this led me to believe that you might be interested in probing more deeply in these kinds of cases. Based on your response, it sounds like that was a special case because of the contact. I'll bear that in mind in the future. Thanks.--Bbb23 (talk) 10:49, 9 July 2013 (UTC)

Oh, I see. That was indeed an isolated incident—I'd been speaking with the user in #wikipedia-en-help prior to the block. Thanks for checking in! – GorillaWarfare (talk) 15:34, 9 July 2013 (UTC)

Input invited

Hi GW. I'm just letting you know that I have mentioned you here. Depending on your available time, perhaps you might be the ideal admin for the situation. You'll need to read the entire thread to get a full grasp of the situation. Cheers, Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 02:44, 9 July 2013 (UTC)

Yes, I see that. I've been following that conversation, as well as the one on WT's talk page, so I think I'm relatively up-to-date. I have responded there. – GorillaWarfare (talk) 04:28, 9 July 2013 (UTC)

Hulkster1

Thank you. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 05:19, 10 July 2013 (UTC)

You're welcome. Hope you've been well :) – GorillaWarfare (talk) 05:22, 10 July 2013 (UTC)

Very well, GW. And you? Nice to see you more active these days. I assume that you are on summer break? Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 05:38, 10 July 2013 (UTC)

Yeah, it's nice to be back on the project more. I am on summer break, though I'm also working :) – GorillaWarfare (talk) 05:48, 10 July 2013 (UTC)

Very cool! I will read the proposal tomorrow, since I am also working. But then again, I work all the time and need to sleep now. Take care. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 06:12, 10 July 2013 (UTC)

You take care as well :) Say hello to Mrs. Cullen! – GorillaWarfare (talk) 06:27, 10 July 2013 (UTC)

I read the proposal. I am not a "code monkey" or as in your case "great ape", so I don't understand the intricacies, but it sounds very worthwhile for making more books freely accessible. I am eating lunch with my wife (a rare workday treat). She remembers you from Boston and sends her greetings. She's been editing more lately as User:ChesPal but is nowhere near as addicted as I am. Take care. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 20:26, 11 July 2013 (UTC)

Cockapoo

Hi, I noticed you closed the discussion about excess images appearing in the Cockapoo article - thank you! Please could I prevail on you a little further and ask if, as an uninvolved Admin, you could remove the images that were being debated from the article? They had been left in while the discussion took place. The images are:

• [[File:Eight week old cockapoo.jpg|thumb|Eight week old Cockapoo]]
• [[File:Twelve (12) Week Old Cockapoo.jpg|thumb|Twelve (12) Week Old Cockapoo - Same as above]]
• [[File:Six Month Old Cockapoo.jpg|thumb|Six Month Old Cockapoo - Same as above]]
• [[File:One Year Old Cockapoo.pdf|thumb|One year old Cockapoo - same as above]]
• [[File:Cockapoo in the snow.jpg|thumb|Older Cockapoo in the snow]]

The reason I think it might be better for an uninvolved Admin to do the removal is because, despite being pinged, the Editor (theMastereditor3000) who had been re-adding the pics did not participate in the discussion - possibly because the images remained in the article? - and I suspect the images may once again be put back in once removed. I am not completely familiar with the nuances of 3RR and don't want to risk falling foul of them as I have previously removed the images! Sorry to bother you. SagaciousPhil - Chat 08:31, 10 July 2013 (UTC)

Sure, I've removed them. – GorillaWarfare (talk) 15:02, 10 July 2013 (UTC)

Thank you! SagaciousPhil - Chat 15:04, 10 July 2013 (UTC)

Darren Bartlett

Regarding your G11 deletion of Darren Bartlett:

• Nobody had nominated it for deletion.
• The article may have been intended for self-promotion but it was not unambiguously promotional, which is a requirement for G11.
• There was no copyvio. OTRS permission for re-use of material was confirmed, as indicated on the article talk page.

I am also an OTRS volunteer and have been communicating with the author about sources and COI. There have been improvements, but I do agree the article should go. However, I disagree that it qualifies for speedy. It should have been proposed for AFD instead.

I have also posted a query about the notability of the subject at WP:N/N#Darren Bartlett and would like to see some discussion before proposing it for AFD.

Please restore the article for now. I will do so myself in a day or so if you don't get around to it. ~Amatulić (talk) 14:13, 11 July 2013 (UTC)

I have undeleted for now. I'll let you take the reigns on the AfD, since you said you would prefer to see some discussion at N/N first. – GorillaWarfare (talk) 15:05, 11 July 2013 (UTC)

Thanks. Do you have any thoughts about what I posted at WP:N/N? It's been waiting around for quite a while with no response. It seems that this noticeboard isn't on a lot of people's watch list. ~Amatulić (talk) 19:15, 11 July 2013 (UTC)

I think the article should go to AfD. I just don't think all of those trivial mentions are sufficient. – GorillaWarfare (talk) 20:08, 11 July 2013 (UTC)

Start Snuggle

IRC office hours for wiki-mentors and Snuggle users

Hi. We're organizing an office hours session with the Teahouse to bring in mentors from across the wiki to try out Snuggle and discuss it's potential to support mentorship broadly. The Snuggle team would appreciate it if you would come and participate in the discussion. We'll be having it in #wikimedia-office ^connect on Wed. July 17th @ 1600 UTC. See the agenda for more info. --EpochFail^{(talk • work)}, Technical 13 (talk), TheOriginalSoni (talk) 17:32, 12 July 2013 (UTC)

WP:GOCE Menu

Hi GorillaWarfare,

You may want to view some of the feedback given here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Guild_of_Copy_Editors/Coordinators#GOCE_Menu_Page. Overall (tell me if I'm wrong), this is what appears to be the "to-do" list:

1. Re-structuring page so that it is easily viewable on mobile/tablet devices.

Solution:

2. Images link to tabs (instead of the original photo page)

Solution:  Done, mind checking?

3. Explanation on the following:

a. How does the portal appear confusing as it is?

Solution: As an example, when I work on articles on articles from Category:Wikipedia_articles_needing_copy_edit_from_July_2013 and I need to update my score or navigate to another tab, I spend time searching for the page, scrolling down, etc. I find that the menu allows the user to have a simplified, easy-to-use interface which provides the essential links/information for WP:GOCE.

b. How would the menu page integrate into the current portal?

Solution: This would be up to the group to decide how they feel that the menu may best integrate, but I do feel that it would be best to have it as the "front tab/page" so that users can directly navigate to where they want to go. Basically, it's a clear, basic "home screen."

Is it okay if we work on this project here? If not, I can move it to another page if you wish. --JustBerry (talk) 23:52, 13 July 2013 (UTC)

Sure. The images do appear to be linking to the correct pages, which is good. A few notes: the design still does not work well in mobile view. The icons get pushed way down to below the sidebar, and at resolutions that are less than ~680px wide, you start to lose the sidebar and header. I also feel like you should not rely on users knowing what the large icons mean—there should be some sort of textual explanation. Keep in mind that users on mobile/tablet devices can't hover. – GorillaWarfare (talk) 16:25, 14 July 2013 (UTC)

A cup of tea for you!

Thanks for helping on the IRC when it seemed to be rush hour! Here, have a tea to keep you going! Matty.007 20:12, 15 July 2013 (UTC)

Thanks Matty :) – GorillaWarfare (talk) 20:14, 15 July 2013 (UTC)

2nd Annual Wikimedia New England General Meeting

You are invited to the 2nd Annual Wikimedia New England General Meeting, on 20 July 2013 in Boston! We will be talking about the future of the chapter, including GLAM, Wiki Loves Monuments, and where we want to take our chapter in the future! EdwardsBot (talk) 09:22, 16 July 2013 (UTC)

your username

hello, i could not help but notice your username and wonder, is it a reference to the "Navy Seal/Gorilla Warfare copypasta" internet meme, or did you make it up yourself? you probably get asked this a lot, but i was just curious as to which it is.--174.103.114.44 (talk) 20:52, 16 July 2013 (UTC)

I wasn't aware there was an internet meme like that. I created it six years ago; it was just something that popped into my head. – GorillaWarfare (talk) 20:54, 16 July 2013 (UTC)

ah, ok, so it predates it. thanks for the answer!! :D -- 174.103.114.44 (talk) 21:24, 16 July 2013 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

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	Thanks again for help :-D Dэя-Бøяg 04:32, 17 July 2013 (UTC)

Thanks, Gorilla, for "unbanning" me from Wiki's help chat room

[User:FrankSanello|FrankSanello]] (talk) 21:20, 18 July 2013 (UTC)FrankSanello {{whisperback}} my username: FrankSanello FrankSanello (talk) 21:19, 18 July 2013 (UTC)FrankSanello

Sorry, Gorilla. I didn't realize Protospam considered my questions disruptive and irrelevant. By any chance were you able to review the transcript of our chat in the help room a few days ago? Protospam determined I was asking irrelevant/disruptive questions there. No one else was complaining. Basically, Protospam told me to "shut up," then blocked me. Thanks, Gorilla, for unblocking me. I'm about to check if I am now able to reenter the Holy of Holies, aka Wiki's help chat room. Danke sehr, muchas gracias, gratia tibi, spacebo bolshoye, merci, mille grazie and half a dozen other languages I speak or read. :) FrankSanello (talk) 21:20, 18 July 2013 (UTC)FrankSanello FrankSanello (talk) 21:23, 18 July 2013 (UTC)FrankSanello

I suppose I should clarify a little bit: PROMOSPAM performed the initial "quiet", which removes your ability to speak in the channel. I was the one who kicked and banned. If you'd like to discuss the reasoning behind it, I will be happy to discuss it with you on IRC—I have removed the ban in #wikipedia-en-help ^connect, so you should have no trouble joining.

As a side note, you do not have to use the whisperback template when you post on other users' talk pages. You also only need to sign your posts once. – GorillaWarfare (talk) 21:25, 18 July 2013 (UTC)

{{help me}} After inserting {{whisperback}} on Gorilla's User talk page, I got an error message saying insert {{whisperback}} in the "first parameter." What is a first paramater? Thanks. So sorry to be a pest, but Wikipedia's formatting is way behind this 61-year-old man's technical abilities! :) FrankSanello (talk) 21:26, 18 July 2013 (UTC)FrankSanello FrankSanello (talk) 21:28, 18 July 2013 (UTC)FrankSanello

As I mentioned above, you should not leave a whisperback template when you are leaving a message on someone else's talk page. When you leave a message for someone on your own talk page (as I am right now), you would add {{whisperback|userpage name}}. The whisperback I'm about to leave you to notify you of this response will be formatted {{whisperback|GorillaWarfare}}. In general, though, you don't typically need to worry about them. – GorillaWarfare (talk) 21:32, 18 July 2013 (UTC)

FrankSanello (talk) 21:44, 18 July 2013 (UTC)FrankSanello

Hello, GorillaWarfare. Please check your email; you've got mail!
It may take a few minutes from the time the email is sent for it to show up in your inbox. You can at any time by removing the {{You've got mail}} or {{ygm}} template.

How do I connect with you on IRC ??? to discuss the reasons you banned me from the help node?

Thanks, Gorilla.

FrankSanello (talk) 21:57, 18 July 2013 (UTC)FrankSanello

I have emailed you back. – GorillaWarfare (talk) 22:03, 18 July 2013 (UTC)

• • I've been so busy writing a book I didn't check my email in-box re: your info re: IRC??? I'll check now. Thanks, Gorilla.

FrankSanello (talk) 14:16, 19 July 2013 (UTC)FrankSanello

Orphaned non-free image File:Enso Group logo.jpg

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Thanks for uploading File:Enso Group logo.jpg. The image description page currently specifies that the image is non-free and may only be used on Wikipedia under a claim of fair use. However, the image is currently not used in any articles on Wikipedia. If the image was previously in an article, please go to the article and see why it was removed. You may add it back if you think that that will be useful. However, please note that images for which a replacement could be created are not acceptable for use on Wikipedia (see our policy for non-free media).

Note that any non-free images not used in any articles will be deleted after seven days, as described in the criteria for speedy deletion. Thank you. Sfan00 IMG (talk) 21:09, 21 July 2013 (UTC)

GOCE July 2013 news report

Guild of Copy Editors July 2013 backlog elimination drive mid-drive newsletter Participation: Out of 30 people who have signed up for this drive so far, 18 have participated. If you have signed up for the drive but have not yet participated, it isn't too late. If you haven't signed up for the drive, sign up now! Progress report: Thus far we have reduced the number of May/June 2012 articles to just 124 articles, so we're on the right track. Unfortunately, for the first time in GOCE history, the number of articles in the backlog has actually gone up during this drive. While all participants are currently doing a fine job, we just don't have as many of them as we have had in the past. We have over 500 editors on our mailing list, but only 18 editors who have done a copy edit for the drive. If you're receiving this newsletter, it's because you have an interest in copy editing. Join the drive! Even if you only copy edit one article, it helps. Imagine how much progress we could make if everyone chipped in just one article. – Your drive coordinators: Torchiest, Baffle gab1978, Jonesey95, and The Utahraptor. >>> Sign up now <<< To discontinue receiving GOCE newsletters, please remove your name from our mailing list. Newsletter delivered by EdwardsBot (talk) 21:55, 21 July 2013 (UTC)

This is the sandbox

User:Guerillero/Sandbox 5 --Guerillero | My Talk 05:30, 22 July 2013 (UTC)

Awesome, thanks! – GorillaWarfare (talk) 10:48, 22 July 2013 (UTC)

A pie for you!

Thanks! Greatpumkin (talk) 16:35, 22 July 2013 (UTC)

Talkback

Hello, GorillaWarfare. You have new messages at Nmandowa's talk page.
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Cockapoo - again

Hi, a couple of weeks ago, you removed a series of images from Cockapoo as per the consensus on the talk page - see the conversation we had above about it. The editor has just added them all back in again [4] despite never becoming involved in the discussion. Would you mind having a look at it - or could you advise what the next steps should be, please? SagaciousPhil - Chat 05:13, 24 July 2013 (UTC)

Hi. I see someone has already reverted the edit, but I don't see that they have explained why. In the future, these edits should be reverted and an explanation should be given to the editor. I will leave a message on the user's talk page. – GorillaWarfare (talk) 15:17, 24 July 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for that. I hadn't wanted to revert as I had already removed them just before the discussion and I thought I might have fallen foul of 3RR. What would be the best course of action if the editor puts them back again (which has already happened quite a few times)? SagaciousPhil - Chat 15:24, 24 July 2013 (UTC)

I'll try to keep an eye on the page. If they continue to re-add the images without seeking discussion, they should be warned for edit warring. – GorillaWarfare (talk) 16:05, 24 July 2013 (UTC)

Great - thanks (again!). SagaciousPhil - Chat 16:09, 24 July 2013 (UTC)

Contesting deletion of Giant Sparrow article

Hello GorillaWarfare,

I would like to contest the deletion of the article I have recently created, Giant Sparrow. I believe that a page for Giant Sparrow should exist for the same reason that the page for Thatgamecompany, creator of the award-winning game Journey, exists. Giant Sparrow is the creator of The Unfinished Swan, an innovative indie game that has been featured and praised by many notable news sites, such as NBC [1], VentureBeat [2], Forbes [3], and IGN[4].

[1] http://www.nbcnews.com/technology/unfinished-swan-beautiful-shooting-game-without-bullets-1C6656836

[2] http://venturebeat.com/2013/03/25/how-the-unfinished-swan-moved-from-student-project-to-playstation-3-downloadable-game/

[3] http://www.forbes.com/sites/carolpinchefsky/2012/10/29/review-the-unfinished-swan-is-a-splash-of-brilliance-that-soon-fades/

[4] http://www.ign.com/articles/2012/10/15/the-unfinished-swan-review

Thank you for your consideration of my request — Preceding unsigned comment added by Impiety (talk • contribs) 06:58, 25 July 2013 (UTC)

I have moved the article to Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Giant Sparrow. Once you've added these references and shown that the company is notable, you can submit the article for review. – GorillaWarfare (talk) 14:12, 25 July 2013 (UTC)

I have moved it to the article space because it is notable for creating The Unfinished Swan, and is covered in multiple reliable secondary sources here, in the article, and at The Unfinished Swan. It would be pointless to list 5+ sources for one point. Surfer43 (talk) 16:10, 25 July 2013 (UTC)

The game seems clearly notable, and there is a lot of material in those references that could be added to the article. I'm confused as to why you insist on moving this article to the mainspace when it has one primary source and one basic listing. The article does not explain how the game is notable whatsoever; a couple of minutes of work could easily fix that. – GorillaWarfare (talk) 16:23, 25 July 2013 (UTC)

Administrator abusing their Rights

Hello,

I believe a certain administrator on Wikipedia User:Bidgee, has been abusing his rights on Wikipedia and has been following my every edit, and calling it vandalism if he doesn't agree with it. He also believes I am a sock puppet and will probably soon block me for the 3 revert rule, even though he would've reverted it for the 4th time in a row and he uses Twinkle to revert obviously non vandal edits. I would wish for you to investigate him for me. Thank You in advance Perisher Blue (talk) 06:00, 26 July 2013 (UTC)

I see no evidence of an administrator abusing their rights. I do see evidence of an editor using a misleading signature and pushing a bizarre point of view against consensus. But then again, I could be completely wrong, in which case I apologize. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 06:20, 26 July 2013 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) I think you are referring mainly to the Melbourne article. First off, User:Bidgee is not an admin. Secondly, you should really take the issue up with him or on the article talk talk page, neither of which you have done. If either of you revert those edits again, you would both in breach of WP:3R. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 06:24,

26 July 2013 (UTC)

Maybe Sydney too? Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 06:28, 26 July 2013 (UTC)

PerisherBlue, or whatever your user name is, please don't make substantive changes to your remarks after other editors have commented. That is bad form. If you have something new to say, please make a new comment. Thank you. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 06:49, 26 July 2013 (UTC)

I am going to go ahead and leave this here without any real response, as the talk page stalkers have answered this pretty thoroughly. An issue with Bidgee is not something that should be brought to me, but rather something you should discuss with the user. – GorillaWarfare (talk) 02:40, 27 July 2013 (UTC)

Partition of Ireland

Hi you reverted my edit on the above. My intention was to add in some further detail about the debate on the Ulster Month. Maybe something went wrong on my edit. I am not sure. Either way, would you be able to go into the version that I edited and retrieve and paste onto my talk page the below. I cannot retrieve the underlying text with the formatting and sources. I may not have the most up to date version web browser or something but I can't go into "Edit" a historic page and thereby copy the text I had worked on so I can re-put it into the article carefully so as not to delete any other text (your note suggested I had deleted something but I had not intended to delete anything). Many thanks....Here is the "below" referred to. Frenchmalawi (talk)

text requested

Debate on Ulster Month

As described above, under the treaty it was provided that Northern Ireland would have a month – the "Ulster Month" – during which its Houses of Parliament could opt out of the Irish Free State. There was some debate on when that Ulster Month should run from: From the date that the Treaty was ratified (in March 1922 via the Irish Free State (Agreement) Act) or the date that the Constitution of the Irish Free State was approved and the Free State established (6 December 1922).[1]

When the Irish Free State (Agreement) Bill was being debated on 21 March 1922, amendments were proposed which would have provided that the Ulster Month would run from the passing of the Irish Free State (Agreement) Act and not the Act that would establish the Irish Free State. Essentially, those who put down the amendments wished to bring forward the month during which Northern Ireland could exercise its right to opt out of the Irish Free State. They justified this view on the basis that if Northern Ireland could exercise its option to opt out at an earlier date, this would help to settle any state of anxiety or trouble on the Northern Ireland frontier. Speaking in the House of Lords, the Marquess of Salisbury argued:[2]

The disorder [in Northern Ireland] is extreme. Surely the Government will not refuse to make a concession which will do something...to mitigate the feeling of irritation which exists on the Ulster side of the border...[U]pon the passage of the Bill into law Ulster will be, technically, part of the Free State. No doubt the Free State will not be allowed, under the provisions of the Act, to exercise authority in Ulster; but, technically, Ulster will be part of the Free State...Nothing will do more to intensify the feeling in Ulster than that she should be placed, even temporarily, under the Free State which she abominates. Besides that there is the unrest in Ulster as a whole and the special unrest in the area which is to be the subject of delimitation...I need not remind your Lordships that the area in doubt, although according to His Majesty's Government it is small, is, in the opinion of the leaders of the Free State, a very large area.

The Treaty was ambiguous on whether the month should run from the date the Anglo-Irish Treaty was ratified or the date that the Irish Free State was established. The British Government took the view that the Ulster Month should run from the date the Irish Free State was established and not beforehand, Viscount Peel for the Government remarking:[1]

His Majesty's Government did not want to assume that it was certain that on the first opportunity Ulster would contract out. They did not wish to say that Ulster should have no opportunity of looking at entire Constitution of the Free State after it had been drawn up before she must decide whether she would or would not contract out.

Viscount Peel continued by saying the government desired that there should be no ambiguity and would to add a proviso to the Irish Free State (Agreement) Bill providing that the Ulster month should run from the passing of the Act establishing the Irish Free State. He further explained that the members of the Parliament of Southern Ireland had agreed to put that interpretation upon it. He noted that he had received from Mr. Arthur Griffith the following letter dated 20 March 1922:[1]

While it is held by the Irish plenipotentiaries and the Ministers of the Provisional Government that in the strict reading and interpretation of the Treaty the month in which North-East Ulster should exercise its option should run as from the date of the passing of the Bill [ratifying the Anglo-Irish Treaty rather than establishing the Irish Free State], they recognize that strong arguments might be made for the advisability of allowing North-East Ulster to consider the Constitution of the Irish Free State before exercising its option and they are willing to waive their interpretation, and agree that the [Ulster] month should run as from the date of the formal adoption of the Constitution [of the Irish Free State].

Lord Birkenhead remarked in the Lords debate:[3]

I should have thought, however strongly one may have embraced the cause of Ulster, that one would have resented it as an intolerable grievance if, before finally and irrevocably withdrawing from the Constitution, she was unable to see the Constitution from which she was withdrawing.

On 7 December 1922, the day after the establishment of the Irish Free State, the House of Commons of Northern Ireland heard an address by Sir James Craig to King George V requesting: "...that the powers of the Parliament and Government of the Irish Free State shall no longer extend to Northern Ireland". No division or vote was requested on the address, which was described as the Constitution Act and was then approved by the Senate of Northern Ireland.[4]

Hi, Frenchmalawi. The text that you added is all visible in the page history (see your edit). This will allow you to retrieve the text, formatting and all. That diff will also show what went wrong; you'll see the massive amount of text that existed in the previous edit, but was removed in yours. – GorillaWarfare (talk) 03:01, 27 July 2013 (UTC)

Thanks but I was already aware of that. What I am looking for is only the underlying text of the above; not the whole article, if you would be kind enough to dig it out for me. I used to be able to but can't now. Working through the entire document is what I wanted to avoid. Frenchmalawi (talk) 03:16, 27 July 2013 (UTC)

Alternatively, I could revert back to my version; dig out the text and then revert back to your version again but don't want to be accused of edit warring in between! Frenchmalawi (talk) 03:17, 27 July 2013 (UTC)

Take a look at the edit itself. I believe the only text in there is the text you wrote. – GorillaWarfare (talk) 03:19, 27 July 2013 (UTC)

Thanks, that was what I was looking for. I have re-edited and think it is better. I don't think there is anything controversial but, as always, if there is, we can pick it up on the talk page if needs be at which point I will probably give up. More often than not the discussions I partake in here go nowhere postive. Frenchmalawi (talk) 03:47, 27 July 2013 (UTC)

Michaelewis

I don't think Michaelewis (talk · contribs) is trying to write an autobiography, because I don't think he's really Michael Lewis (model). I think the former is (badly) impersonating the latter, since he's deliberately and obviously falsifying the article (hair and eye color being changed to not match the picture, etc). Jackmcbarn (talk) 02:49, 27 July 2013 (UTC)

Perhaps... I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt. The difference between "brown" and "dirty blonde" hair, and between "brown" and "hazel" eyes is slim enough that it may just be him trying to "correct" the article. Either way, I've blocked for edit warring, because he is unwilling to discuss. – GorillaWarfare (talk) 03:08, 27 July 2013 (UTC)

Hi

I just saw your User Page and I think you look very lovely. Whatever edit you want on Partition of Ireland is ok by me. I am no doubt one among legions of fans. Well done. Frenchmalawi (talk) 03:53, 27 July 2013 (UTC)

"inappropriate"?

Please elaborate. 99.181.144.35 (talk) 03:47, 29 July 2013 (UTC)

The mass-addition of Science Friday links appears to be external links spam. – GorillaWarfare (talk) 03:59, 29 July 2013 (UTC)

They are all different. 99.181.144.35 (talk) 04:01, 29 July 2013 (UTC)

They all link to Science Friday's website, which appears to be an attempt to generate traffic for the site. – GorillaWarfare (talk) 04:03, 29 July 2013 (UTC)

I have no connection to the site, just a listener. It just seemed efficient to do them as I saw them. It is hard to imagine NPR being a "spam" concern. 99.181.144.35 (talk) 04:23, 29 July 2013 (UTC)

If the episodes are very clearly providing detail that's unavailable in the article, feel free to re-add them. If they're just somewhat related, they shouldn't be included. – GorillaWarfare (talk) 04:30, 29 July 2013 (UTC)

Okay, sounds a bit arbitrary though. 99.181.144.35 (talk) 04:36, 29 July 2013 (UTC)

Perhaps the policy page will help clear it up. – GorillaWarfare (talk) 04:36, 29 July 2013 (UTC)

No, not really. And now there is this User talk:Trlovejoy#Sugar substitute and Science Friday from this User talk:99.181.144.35. Seems dysfunctional. 99.181.144.35 (talk) 04:47, 29 July 2013 (UTC)

What don't you understand about the policy? I agree; a lot of it is a bit subjective. – GorillaWarfare (talk) 04:49, 29 July 2013 (UTC)

The IP, under various combinations of sock accounts, has been blocked for at least a year. See User:Arthur Rubin/IP listNewsAndEventsGuy (talk) 10:29, 29 July 2013 (UTC)

Please explain

Hey, I noticed that you undid my addition to River Phoenix's page. I am confused as to why you would do such a thing? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Knowledgebroadener (talk • contribs) 04:28, 29 July 2013 (UTC)

Wikipedia has a neutral point of view policy that all articles should follow. Adding text like "River Phoenix was one of America's most iconic and beautiful child actors." and "His death was arguably one of the most tragic in all history." is highly biased, and conflicts with this policy. – GorillaWarfare (talk) 04:31, 29 July 2013 (UTC)

I'm sorry,

I am so sorry, I don't know what came over me. :(. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Knowledgebroadener (talk • contribs) 04:44, 29 July 2013 (UTC)

No need to apologize; as long as you do not reinsert biased information, it's fine. Regarding the heading of this message, you might do well to take a look at our civility policy. – GorillaWarfare (talk) 04:47, 29 July 2013 (UTC)

There's no need to shout, Knowledgebroadener. We're all real people behind these names who are just trying to curate the encyclopedia; there's no evil motives here. :-) Ed ^{[talk] [majestic titan]} 04:52, 29 July 2013 (UTC)

What is wrong with me?!

I am so sorry,

Of course I understand why you deleted my comment. I am so embarrassed. What's wrong with me. I knew it was going to be deleted some time or another. Please forgive me. :( --Knowledgebroadener (talk) 06:10, 29 July 2013 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Knowledgebroadener (talk • contribs) 05:58, 29 July 2013 (UTC)

Allcargo Logistics Limited

Hi. I've left some notes at Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Allcargo Logistics Limited, and notified Vishalbansode. Let me know if you want the article moved into the encyclopedia. --Anthonyhcole (talk · contribs · email) 17:12, 29 July 2013 (UTC)

AFCH seems to think I'm the author of that page; I just moved the acceptance template to Vishalbansode's user talk page. – GorillaWarfare (talk) 19:50, 30 July 2013 (UTC)

Paul Fleming bio

Why did you delete my page? Please advise on what the unambiguous advertising is, and I'll remove it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by AniDAAD (talk • contribs)

If you don't understand how text like "Paul Martin’s upscale American bistro focuses on fusing local and peak-of-season ingredients with great flavors to create tasty, affordable dishes for lunch and dinner." is biased, I worry that you'll be unable to write a neutral article on the topic. If you would like to recreate the article, I will restore it for you, but in the draftspace. Articles that promotional are not allowed in the articlespace until they are rewritten neutrally. – GorillaWarfare (talk) 19:04, 31 July 2013 (UTC)

Please restore and I will remove anything that seems like advertising. Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by AniDAAD (talk • contribs) 20:12, 31 July 2013 (UTC)

I've restored it to User:AniDAAD/Paul Fleming (restaurateur). When you're finished, you can click "Submit this page" in the template at the top to submit it for review. – GorillaWarfare (talk) 21:23, 31 July 2013 (UTC)