User talk:Ixtal/Archives/2022/April

Drn.

Hi there. I don’t mind an RfC, not sure what else to say in Drn. Feel like the discussion became circular, personally I have nothing else to add and already said what I had to say. Just wanted to let you know. Have a good one. ZaniGiovanni (talk) 12:26, 31 March 2022 (UTC)

Thanks for reaching out, ZaniGiovanni. I'll draft an RfC. A. C. Santacruz ⁂ Please ping me! 12:33, 31 March 2022 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Barnstar of Diplomacy
	Thanks for mediating the DRN discussion in a reasonable and respectful manner. Regards, ZaniGiovanni (talk) 18:12, 31 March 2022 (UTC)

Much appreciated, ZaniGiovanni. I'll be volunteering at DRN in case you need a future case moderated :) A. C. Santacruz ⁂ Please ping me! 18:14, 31 March 2022 (UTC)

April 2022 WikiProject Finance & Investment Newsletter

WikiProject Finance & Investment April 2022 Newsletter Hi! Welcome to the April newsletter of WikiProject Finance & Investment. This is our first regular newsletter and has plenty of exciting announcements. You have received this because you added yourself as a participant to the project, but will only receive future newsletters if you sign up for the mailing list; see below for instructions on how to do so. April Drive: The month-long April Content-creation Drive is now underway. The drive's target is to improve Wikipedia's coverage of financial markets. Awards will be given to everyone who improves or creates at least one article in the topic area. Sign up here! New layout: The layout of the WikiProject has been greatly improved, with a navigation bar being added to the top of every page and separate pages for assessment and edit requests, templates, resources, and news. Come take a look! Signing up for the newsletter: To sign up for future newsletters about upcoming drives, recent promotions, and other miscellaneous topics, add yourself to the list at Wikipedia:WikiProject Finance & Investment/Mailing list. You will then receive them in your talk page regularly. Thank you for participating in the WikiProject. A. C. Santacruz ⁂ Please ping me! 22:02, 17 March 2022 (UTC) To unsubscribe to this newsletter please go to the mailing list.

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Glad you like it, FeralOink :D A. C. Santacruz ⁂ Please ping me! 10:25, 3 April 2022 (UTC)

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Talk page revert

In what sense is this not a FORUM intervention, or in any way a helpful Talk contribution? The two comments both read as straightforward cisbro posturing. Newimpartial (talk) 12:36, 7 April 2022 (UTC)

The point about a circular definition being unhelpful makes sense, and their saying simple definition is most accurate backs the current consensus on the article itself (adult human female is the current definition on the article). The first comment thus does not seem like a forum intervention.

The second point about people not having to tailor their words to avoid causing offense is wrong and borderline uncivil, but I fail to see how it is soapboxing when the thread was discussing the merits of a previous comment being a forum post. It is related to the discussion on the talk page and thus not an uncalled-for soapbox on Womanhood, for example. They may read as peak cishet pandering, but in light of the other discussions I fail to see the comments as harmful and/or unrelated enough to fall under the FORUM category. Just because we don't agree with what the IP says or don't see it as especially helpful does not mean we can call it a FORUM post. In any case, thanks for dropping by my talkpage and I hope you're having a nice week so far, Newimpartial :) A. C. Santacruz ⁂ Please ping me! 12:44, 7 April 2022 (UTC)

Thanks. You too.

The fact is, I do still believe both of these "contributions" to be FORUM posts. The second one is trying to argue back at a comment you made months ago with essentially a "sticks and stones" argument - those kinds of discussions on the boundaries of CIVIL are inherently off-topic, I think. And the first contribution doesn't acknowledge what circularity actually means and engages in drive-by disparagement (political flavor of the day) of what had been a fairly earnest discussion. So yes, both firmly FORUM IMO. Newimpartial (talk) 12:53, 7 April 2022 (UTC)

The second one might be arguing back months afterwards, but I think it's best to just leave it be. The first one might be wrong, sure, but I genuinely can't see the whole message as FORUM. The last remark might've been unnecessary, but I'll disagree with you it needs reverting. I think we'll just have to disagree on this point, and if anyone other than you reverts me I won't litigate the issue, but I think we can just let the random IP blabber on and hope they become a useful contributor at some point. A. C. Santacruz ⁂ Please ping me! 12:58, 7 April 2022 (UTC)

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Apologies...

...for jumping the gun in the ANI discussion about the Ukraine far right dispute. I think I've only once commented in a dispute and never been party to one so wasn't clear on the rules. BobFromBrockley (talk) 16:58, 8 April 2022 (UTC)

Bobfrombrockley I'm unsure what you are referring to and would appreciate if you could clarify. What ANI thread are you referring to? A. C. Santacruz ⁂ Please ping me! 18:03, 8 April 2022 (UTC)

Sorry I meant dispute resolution notice board not ANI! https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Dispute_resolution_noticeboard#Far-right_politics_in_Ukraine BobFromBrockley (talk) 08:12, 9 April 2022 (UTC)

I see. Don't worry Bobfrombrockley! If this is your first time at DRN you might benefit from reading some of the archives to see how most cases go. You're not in any trouble, it's good to see editors are still interested in the discussion (sometimes we get cases where everyone is kind of tired of each other). My tone sometimes comes across as passive-aggressive so I hope I didn't scare you or anything ^u^ A. C. Santacruz ⁂ Please ping me! 09:26, 9 April 2022 (UTC)

RfC

Hi, Im not an expert, but how long RfC should last, and any action required from me? Thanks!--Abrvagl (talk) 15:17, 10 April 2022 (UTC)

30 days, and what do you mean by "action required", Abrvagl? A. C. Santacruz ⁂ Please ping me! 16:41, 10 April 2022 (UTC)

I meant that do I need to take any actions, like comment, or I dont know. But you answered my question! Thanks Abrvagl (talk) 19:42, 10 April 2022 (UTC)

If you are referring to the DRN RfC, you can comment your preference there, Abrvagl. Closing and other actions should be left for experienced editors on request. A. C. Santacruz ⁂ Please ping me! 06:25, 11 April 2022 (UTC)

DRN update

I think you should consider closing this request because editors apparently agreed with this version about 2 days ago and the talk page discussion was also stale. Just now, Asarlaí has resumed his edit warring with misleading edit summaries again[1] so I find it to be largely a conduct issue and not a content dispute anymore. ArvindPalaskar (talk) 16:37, 11 April 2022 (UTC)

ArvindPalaskar, thanks for coming to my talk page. I was going to move to closing it due to inactivity in the case but forgot, thanks for the reminder. Enjoy the rest of the week :) A. C. Santacruz ⁂ Please ping me! 16:40, 11 April 2022 (UTC)

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Jonathan D. Gray

Hello A.C. Santacruz. Would you mind looking at my edit request for Jonathan D. Gray, the president and COO of Blackstone Group. I saw your name listed as a member of Category:WikiProject Finance & Investment participants, so I hope this will be of interest to you. It's a straightforward edit request to add information on his career in the last few years, beyond where the current information stops. It can be found at Talk:Jonathan D. Gray. Thanks so much for your attention. ThomasClements Blackstone (talk) 18:19, 19 April 2022 (UTC)

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Signpost interview

Happy to help with a Signpost interview. Bondegezou (talk) 10:25, 25 April 2022 (UTC)

New username, who dis?

Heyo! I like the new name! What made you chose it? Sideswipe9th (talk) 15:14, 21 April 2022 (UTC)

Sideswipe9th I became concerned that the pseudonym might be confused for someone I don't know with the same name so to avoid any weird future interactions I just thought I'd go for an obvious internet-style name. I'm glad you like it, Sideswipe9th :D Ixtal ⁂ (talk) 15:34, 21 April 2022 (UTC)

I like it too Rlink2 (talk) 15:46, 21 April 2022 (UTC)

I don't! I OBJECT! Now ACS is no longer the short hand, and Ixt is only two letters from Ixtal, so I can't use that. I'm going to have to type out two extra letters every time I'm referencing her for the rest of forever! ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 15:51, 21 April 2022 (UTC)

ScottishFinnishRadish inb4 my new name gives you RSI :P — Ixtal ⁂ (talk) 15:52, 21 April 2022 (UTC)

Simple solution, set up AutoHotKey or a keyboard macro, or a button on an Elgato Stream Deck to just type Ixtal for you! Bring it down from three button presses to one! Sideswipe9th (talk) 16:57, 21 April 2022 (UTC)

• Is is pronounced [ɪxtal] or [ɪkstal]? Or something else?  Tewdar  18:29, 24 April 2022 (UTC)
  • I was assuming [iʃtal] because it seems like a Basque or Mesoamerican name. (t · c) buidhe 18:34, 24 April 2022 (UTC)
  • Oh, is it [iʃtal]? (edit @Buidhe - yes, I think you're right...)  Tewdar  18:36, 24 April 2022 (UTC)
  • I now have a completely different mental image of this user. 😁  Tewdar  18:41, 24 April 2022 (UTC)

    buidhe, Tewdar any way is fine. As far as I know the inspiration for the lore was Mesoamerican if you really want a particular answer. — Ixtal ⁂ (talk) 07:34, 26 April 2022 (UTC)

Spanish-language sources

Hi Ixtal; I did not know you had been renamed!

I was hoping you could help me with something. There is a deletion discussion for our article on Gonzalo Lira, and in general I am leaning delete due to WP:1E. However, there are two sources that might be coverage beyond WP:1E, but they are both in Spanish, and Google Translate was not helpful.

If you have time, can you have a look at them and let me know whether you think they are significant, reliable and independent? Gonzalo Lira: "Escribir no es ningún misterio" and El Hombre del Millon de Dolares?

BilledMammal (talk) 11:11, 27 April 2022 (UTC)

The first link is most definitely significant and would indicate notability by itself in my opinion. The pdf is from an article in El Mercurio, Chile's top newspaper (see digital reference backing this up in the Chilean national digital archive of the article). Both are interviews of the ones you'd expect of major literary figures, so while the biographical information may not be entirely independent, they to me indicate notability. The Chilean national digital library has 24 articles on him which altogether confirms that. Hope this helps, BilledMammal! — Ixtal ⁂ (talk) 16:49, 27 April 2022 (UTC)

BTW feel free to paste my comment on to the discussion if you think it would be helpful, although I will not comment there due to your contacting me possibly being mistaken for canvassing. — Ixtal ⁂ (talk) 16:52, 27 April 2022 (UTC)

Thank you! Quoted you in that discussion. BilledMammal (talk) 21:35, 27 April 2022 (UTC)

Quite a bit of canvassing and bludgeoning going on in that discussion it seems. Yikes. Glad I only engage in controversial politics when it comes up at DRN (mostly). — Ixtal ⁂ (talk) 22:04, 27 April 2022 (UTC)

It appears that he has a bit of a fan club that is causing issues; I found it when it was mentioned in this AN discussion BilledMammal (talk) 23:04, 28 April 2022 (UTC)

Football! That's a shitshow I've been glad to avoid the past few weeks. Not that it's been easy, BilledMammal. — Ixtal ⁂ (talk) 23:09, 28 April 2022 (UTC)

You're a smarter person than I am; I've tried to stick to Olympians, but I have been dragged into a few football discussions. BilledMammal (talk) 23:12, 28 April 2022 (UTC)