User talk:JPxG/Archive31
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Log redactions
Please take note of Wikipedia:Revision deletion#Log redaction. In particular, despite your edit summary saying delete an accidental undelete (is this possible? does it work?)
, it does in fact work, but for reasons that are beyond me policy explicitly prohibits admins from using log redaction solely to hide their own mistakes. * Pppery * it has begun... 02:56, 15 November 2023 (UTC)
WikiCup
Hey JPxG, I noticed in that WikiCup report that I wrote a week or two ago, you changed the picture in the report - is that image you changed it to a physical WikiCup trophy? You have any idea how I can get one of those? ;) BeanieFan11 (talk) 20:38, 15 November 2023 (UTC)
Horrid
Absolutely horrid ain't ya
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The Signpost: 20 November 2023
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what happens if i do this
{{unblock|Reason here}}
Does it flag anything to use this template when I'm not blocked? jp×g🗯️ 10:21, 20 November 2023 (UTC)
- You show up as an odd entry at CAT:UNB (hence my seeing this), but beyond that, I don't think so. --Blablubbs (talk) 11:49, 20 November 2023 (UTC)
- I guess it probably doesn't happen often enough to warrant making a database report for it, or else I bet it'd be pretty easy to throw something together. Oh well. jp×g🗯️ 11:52, 20 November 2023 (UTC)
- There are scenarios where an account can end up blocked without a block on the account (autoblock, IP hardblock), so it's probably desirable to treat these like all other requests. --Blablubbs (talk) 11:54, 20 November 2023 (UTC)
- I guess it probably doesn't happen often enough to warrant making a database report for it, or else I bet it'd be pretty easy to throw something together. Oh well. jp×g🗯️ 11:52, 20 November 2023 (UTC)
Hi! I saw your edit summary. I gathered from "imperiously" that you didn't approve but what do you mean "pwn the larries"? It was not my intention to "pwn" any of the "larries"... I don't think. Usedtobecool ☎️ 10:24, 20 November 2023 (UTC)
- In general I've noticed an increasing trend of talk page threads getting aggressively hatted or cotted or threadshitted or removed entirely when the people who start them have annoying or stupid political beliefs; there's obviously nothing wrong with disagreeing with them (and boy howdy, do I a lot of the time). But I get the impression that whether or not it's intended to be this way, it comes off most of the time as an act of owning the libs (or the cons or whoever the case may be). The incessant dunks on Larry whenever he posts, even when the post isn't stupid, are just downright sad -- people falling over themselves to say something rude about Citizendium for the eighteenth time, come on, can we get the WMF to send us some grass and then go touch it?
- So I don't know, maybe I shouldn't have put it back, but I feel like if we can't take a single derisive comment from the co-founder of the website without having to resort to removing the post or spilling juice on ourselves or whatever, this is a skill issue on our part. jp×g🗯️ 11:29, 20 November 2023 (UTC)
- So, I guess the "larries" was "people like User:Larry Sanger", whatever that means? No, I was not taking that user's side or anyone else's. When he makes an edit, he is an editor, just like you or I, and his edits are judged on their merits. That was a NOTFORUM edit and anyone coming across it should have removed it as such. It wasn't. Okay. But he also enjoys BLP and NPA protections, as does the subject of the article. In general, regarding whether to remove or hide a post, in my opinion, a post should be removed when there is nothing constructive in it needing archiving. And I think it is mistake to retain, even hidden, a thread such as that. But it was of course not severe enough a violation in any of the fronts to win me the wikiargument over it. Hence, my note that it was going to be a one-off bold action. Anyway, I was mainly curious about the particular phrase I could not nail down, with google. Usedtobecool ☎️ 12:41, 20 November 2023 (UTC)
- Unless I'm missing something, OP's post was vandalism and should simply have been deleted by the first bystander. SPECIFICO talk 13:03, 20 November 2023 (UTC)
Horrid
Absolutely horrid ain't ya — Preceding unsigned comment added by 138.19.255.8 (talk) 05:18, 16 November 2023 (UTC)
- Yeah, I have it on good word [from whom?] that JPxG regularly clubs small seals and eats them for breakfast, and that he occasionally drives in the middle lane. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 14:29, 16 November 2023 (UTC)
- Clubbing seals and having them for breakfast? Man's gotta eat bro... But driving in the middle lane? Lock him up and throw away the damn key! 218.189.35.119 (talk) 09:20, 19 November 2023 (UTC)
- Damn right. jp×g🗯️ 09:49, 19 November 2023 (UTC)
- Clubbing seals and having them for breakfast? Man's gotta eat bro... But driving in the middle lane? Lock him up and throw away the damn key! 218.189.35.119 (talk) 09:20, 19 November 2023 (UTC)
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Hi, I disagree with the added words at the Header. I didn't want to revert it, since I boldly edited in the original wording, but I don't think people failing to read the banner is a problem that is solved by adding more words.
To me, the original meaning is very clear from context, and its brevity makes it more memorable. Ca talk to me! 10:27, 25 November 2023 (UTC)
- Frankly, I think you are right. jp×g🗯️ 23:10, 25 November 2023 (UTC)
Bizarre
I was pinged by an admin (you) which brought me to the antifa TP. All I could find was that two additional admins and a user with two million edits had been pinged and there was a one word explanation: “Bizarre”. A bit uncomfortable as I had no idea what bizarre action caused me to be pinged by an admin. At first I assumed it was my response to an ECP edit request, my most recent action on the article, but did not understand why three admins were required. Only when Justin responded did I find that there was a lengthy UTP discussion involving five admins (now a sixth is involved) of which I was unaware as his TP is not on my watchlist. Not to worry. I’ll make sure I know what’s going on in future by adding the rest of the 46,530,924 WP editors to my watchlist. O3000, Ret. (talk) 20:13, 25 November 2023 (UTC)
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Hi JPxG :) I'm looking to interview people here. Feel free to pass if you're not interested. Clovermoss🍀 (talk) 13:17, 1 December 2023 (UTC)
The Signpost: 4 December 2023
- In the media: Turmoil on Hebrew Wikipedia, grave dancing, Olga's impact and inspiring Bhutanese nuns
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tomorrow
have to go over those old issue pages and make sure nothing got busted (easy: open the history tab and compare the prev rev with the cur rev and see how many items there are, it should be the same and they shouldn't be effed up). jp×g🗯️ 09:36, 3 December 2023 (UTC)
Signpost edits
Hi JPxG! I noticed that you made some fairly substantial edits earlier to the report I filed a week ago on the Beeblebrox suspension, adding yourself as a co-author, and then published the issue shortly thereafter. I appreciate the additional reporting you did, and most of the other tweaks looks alright, but there are a few that I would have wanted to adjust or discuss. In Signpost collaborations, unlike articlespace ones, my username is signed at the end, so I like to have the chance to ensure that I stand 100% behind what is being said in my name (more akin to a co-signed RfC), and the timing in this case unfortunately deprived me of that.
I know that sometimes the news moves fast or something doesn't get noticed until right before publication deadline. But in future instances where I file well in advance, I would appreciate it if ideally edits were made enough in advance of publication that I have a chance to review them. And though I'm generally watching the page anyways, a mention in the edit summary to ping me never hurts either.
Best, {{u|Sdkb}} talk 16:27, 4 December 2023 (UTC)
- Sorry about that. I have a bad habit of leaving N&N and ITM last in my editing, which I should remind myself to stop doing. I hope I was able to lessen the impact by putting my byline on it too (in case anyone got pissed off from the parts I wrote), although at the same time I try not to steal credit if someone else wrote most of the piece... anyway, yes, I will try to do those earlier in the future. jp×g🗯️ 19:57, 4 December 2023 (UTC)
- Totally understandable; thanks for the note. Cheers, {{u|Sdkb}} talk 21:13, 4 December 2023 (UTC)
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Wikipedians most active in deletions?
Would it be possible to generate lists of English Wikipedia editors who are most active in deletion discussions? What about ones who have started the most? Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 08:18, 6 December 2023 (UTC)
- The good news is that I've improved substantially in my programming skills in the last couple years. The bad news is that I wrote the Oracle a couple years ago. So the answer is "kind of". The Oracle does parse user signatures from deletion discussions to measure participation, but currently it doesn't store the actual usernames. The code would probably be fairly simple to modify such that it did compile a list of usernames into that json, and I'd be happy to put it in a publicly accessible directory if so. (Although I also suspect a SQL query might be able to take the shot, at least specifically for starting discussions). jp×g🗯️ 08:39, 6 December 2023 (UTC)
- No big hurry, but if you could generate any relavant stats, I'd love to see them for potential future research. (I've one paper related to deletion topics under review, if you'd like to see it, sent me an email or just let me know if you want to be pinged when it is eventually published). Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 07:05, 7 December 2023 (UTC)
December 2023
(for those playing at home, we're talking about Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2023-12-04/Humour)
A page you created has been nominated for deletion as an attack page, according to section G10 of the criteria for speedy deletion.
Do not create pages that attack, threaten, or disparage their subject or any other entity. Attack pages and files are not tolerated by Wikipedia, and users who create or add such material may be blocked from editing. ——Serial 22:27, 6 December 2023 (UTC)
- @Serial Number 54129: What? jp×g🗯️ 22:32, 6 December 2023 (UTC)
- FWIW, it gave me a chuckle to realize that she would do apply sunscreen, wouldn't she? I had never read anyone cite MANDY or NOTMANDY these past ten years so it was a neat way to find out about those essays. I'm not surprised that yet another Signpost EiC is in trouble for a humour piece in the issue. Humour has proven a problem for many on this website. Alas. Chris Troutman (talk) 23:28, 6 December 2023 (UTC)
Well I for one found it funny. However, I got into trouble for having user box that called Boris Johnson a "complete nincompoop", so maybe chalk this one up to experience. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 13:25, 7 December 2023 (UTC)
Rice-Davies
Sorry about all of this. At the end of the day, it's just a pun on the word "applies". Don't personally understand the outrage, but wanted to say that I thought it was a bit clever, at least. Tim O'Doherty (talk) 22:40, 7 December 2023 (UTC)
7,000 extra /div tags?
This edit and a few more like it have caused something like 7,000 extra closing </div> tags to be transcluded into user talk pages. Can you please fix? – Jonesey95 (talk) 01:14, 8 December 2023 (UTC)
- Yeah, the script I am using to retrieve the old subheaders is working on very old and very bad data that needs a lot of manual cleaning. I am going to do a search and fix those extra divs in a minute when I'm finished (I only have the ass end of 2013 and half of 2012 left). Thanks for the heads-up. jp×g🗯️ 01:16, 8 December 2023 (UTC)
- Sounds good. If you see a bunch of div tags listed on the "Last page" link of this report, either the system hasn't purged the pages after your fixes, or there are still one or two problems out there. Let me know if you need help. – Jonesey95 (talk) 01:24, 8 December 2023 (UTC)
- A third explanation for a bunch of divs listed on that report is that the delivery message for 4 November 2016, such as the one at User talk:Siva1979, has an extra
</div>in it. Unfortunately, it's not transcluded, so they'll have to be removed individually (by a bot, ideally). – Jonesey95 (talk) 01:31, 8 December 2023 (UTC)- @Jonesey95: Uh, I am searching for them now and I don't see anything at all. Did you go through and fix them or should I search deeper? jp×g🗯️ 01:55, 8 December 2023 (UTC)
- I fixed a few that I came across but did not search systematically. Let me go look at the report.... Yeah, looks much better. Keep up the good work in the Signpost mines! – Jonesey95 (talk) 01:59, 8 December 2023 (UTC)
- @Jonesey95: Uh, I am searching for them now and I don't see anything at all. Did you go through and fix them or should I search deeper? jp×g🗯️ 01:55, 8 December 2023 (UTC)
- A third explanation for a bunch of divs listed on that report is that the delivery message for 4 November 2016, such as the one at User talk:Siva1979, has an extra
- Sounds good. If you see a bunch of div tags listed on the "Last page" link of this report, either the system hasn't purged the pages after your fixes, or there are still one or two problems out there. Let me know if you need help. – Jonesey95 (talk) 01:24, 8 December 2023 (UTC)
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Administrator changes
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An early end-of-year barnstar
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Harrassment
Hello, I anticipated that appropriate measures would be taken if someone experienced harassment on Wikipedia. I have been subjected to repeated personal attacks, specifically being referred to as a "clown" by a user. This is clearly documented in the thread. The user claims I targeted their personal page, but in reality, I was merely notifying them about a discussion. I kindly request that you address this matter, or alternatively, seek assistance from someone who can dedicate time to resolve this issue. I'm making this request as a young editor. Imperial[AFCND] 07:40, 10 December 2023 (UTC)
Guild of Copy Editors December 2023 Newsletter
Guild of Copy Editors December 2023 Newsletter
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