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Tech News: 2013-44

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please inform other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

New features

• The style and colors for warning boxes, error messages, and success messages in all skins of MediaWiki has been changed. [1]

VisualEditor news

• You will soon be able to switch from editing in VisualEditor to editing wikitext directly without having to save the page. You can't yet switch from wikitext to VisualEditor but developers hope to make it possible in the future. [2]

Problems

• There was a problem on October 31 during the activation of MediaWiki 1.22wmf2 on test wikis. mediawiki.org was also broken, and if you had problems logging in, it was probably because of this as well.

Future

• Because of the problem with MediaWiki 1.22wmf2, the calendar has changed. It will be added to mediawiki.org and non-Wikipedia sites on November 4, and all Wikipedia sites on November 7.

JavaScript / Gadget developers

• Due to a recent change, gadgets and user scripts that use jQuery UI should explicitly load the appropriate modules, as they may not be loaded by default. [3]
• Developers have started to remove long-deprecated methods. You should check the JavaScript console (in debug=true mode) and look for deprecation warnings and their stack trace. [4]

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10:32, 4 November 2013 (UTC)

Related changes list

re the RELC list at VPT: as you can see I am talking with Werieth at the botrequest page; you are welcome of course. This message is only to prevent people doing double work. -DePiep (talk) 17:29, 5 November 2013 (UTC)

Tech News: 2013-45

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please inform other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

New features

• You can now use the "Autonym" font of the Universal Language Selector (ULS) to display the name of languages (for example in navigation templates) in their correct script. To do this, add the CSS class "autonym" to the elements that include language names. Note that this font only works for the name of languages, not for any other text. [5]

Problems

• There was a problem with Parsoid (the program used by VisualEditor to convert wikitext to annotated HTML) on November 4, between 19:40 and 20:40 (UTC). Encoding issues caused non-ASCII characters (including those with diacritics, like "é") to be broken when converted to wikitext and saved to the page. [6]

Future

• The Beta Features tool is now available on Commons and Meta-Wiki. With it, you can test new features before they're added for everyone. The plan is to add this tool to all wikis on November 21. [7]
• MediaWiki 1.23wmf3 was added to test wikis on November 7. It will arrive to non-Wikipedia wikis on November 12 and all Wikipedia wikis on November 14 (calendar). [8]
• The MassMessage tool will be added to all wikis on November 14. It will make it simpler to send messages across wikis. [9]
• The button of the Search page will soon be changed to be blue and bigger (see the difference). [10]
• You will soon be able to add a page name as parameter for {{REVISIONID}}, {{REVISIONUSER}} and {{REVISIONTIMESTAMP}} and similar functions, by writing for example {{REVISIONID:Apple}}. [11]
• In the future, when you hide a CentralNotice banner on a wiki, it will also be hidden on other Wikimedia sites. [12]

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13:03, 11 November 2013 (UTC)

WikiProject Yorkshire Newsletter - November 2013

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William Vernon Harcourt (scientist)

I traced the bug to {{cite DNB}} and fixed it, so the editor field now works as expected with {{harv}}. Thanks for pointing it out. -- PBS (talk) 12:16, 12 November 2013 (UTC)

Tech News: 2013-46

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please inform other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Problems

• There was a problem caused by too many requests to the database on November 14. [13]

Future

• MediaWiki 1.23wmf4 was added to test wikis on November 14. It will arrive to non-Wikipedia wikis on November 19 and all Wikipedia wikis on November 21 (calendar).
• The new Search tool (CirrusSearch) will be added to *.wikimedia.org, Wikimania and Wikisource wikis on November 19, and Wiktionary wikis on November 21 (except where it's already available). Once it is added, you can test it by adding &srbackend=CirrusSearch to the address of the search results page. It will become the main search engine on Wikivoyage wikis on November 21. [14]
• The MassMessage tool will be added to all wikis on November 19 instead of November 14. It will make it simpler to send messages across wikis. [15]

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08:49, 18 November 2013 (UTC)

Dates in Kinky Boots (musical)

Do you have a tool that expands dates from the ambiguous 11-8-2013 style to something like November 8, 2013? If so, could help expand the dates at Kinky Boots (musical)? Thanks for any assistance! -- Ssilvers (talk) 21:03, 23 November 2013 (UTC)

I have expanded dates to month first format which appears to be the most prominent date format in the article. Keith D (talk) 21:17, 23 November 2013 (UTC)

Super! Thanks very much! -- Ssilvers (talk) 22:32, 23 November 2013 (UTC)

A cup of tea for you!

You might need this to help you block every IP he uses.. LOL JMHamo (talk) 01:02, 25 November 2013 (UTC)

Thanks, looks like they have stopped for the moment - wonder how many reverts will happen overnight. Keith D (talk) 01:19, 25 November 2013 (UTC)

Tech News: 2013-47

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please inform other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

New features

• The Beta Features announced before are now available on all Wikimedia wikis. You can test new features easily by changing your Beta preferences. VisualEditor is one of those features on sites where it works and isn't automatically enabled. There is also a new media viewer and changes in the article text style. [16]
• Tools developers can now create tools that use the OAuth protocol to connect to accounts on Wikimedia sites. As a user, you can use those tools to make edits and other changes with your account without giving the tool your password. [17]

Problems

• Wikis that are currently testing CirrusSearch had problems with search results on November 18 from 16:00 to 20:00 UTC.

Future

• There will be no major code changes on the week of November 25 because many developers will be on holiday for Thanksgiving.
• The editing interface of Page: pages on Wikisource (working with the Proofread Page extension) will soon also work without JavaScript. [18]

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06:46, 25 November 2013 (UTC)

To village or not to village

Hi again Keith. Can you give advice here ? Settlements, however small, are written as villages if they have a church (extablished CofE ?) - I've osmosis[ed] this from watching your edits. However, a place could be so small that in itself it would, without a church, be considered a hamlet, but has a church that has been made redundant and therefore not now part of an ecclesiastic parish or diocese. Could such redundancy make a previous tiny village a hamlet ? Does the fact that a very small settlement is also a civil parish automatically covert a hamlet to a village ? Thanks. Acabashi (talk) 00:30, 1 December 2013 (UTC)

Difficult area here. I would say that a place having a church, probably of any type, is clearly an indication of a village. I would think that once a village then it should remain a village even if the church is redundant. I would not have thought that having a civil parish named after it makes it a village. Try to use settlement if there is a problem of what to call it. Keith D (talk) 00:37, 1 December 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for that - from web searches on the topic, whether or not a settlement can be a village or a hamlet seems to be bit of a moveable feast. Your suggestion of 'settlement' where there could be some debate is sensible. If a village church has been demolished would a small settlement then become a hamlet ? - as you say - difficult area. This does cause a bit of a headache regarding which cat to add, as we can't add both. Acabashi (talk) 09:56, 1 December 2013 (UTC)

They all went in to the village category until someone decided we should have a hamlets category. I tend to leave them in the village one unless someone else moves them. Keith D (talk) 14:06, 1 December 2013 (UTC)

Millennium Dome

Keith, I hardly need 'reliable' sources. It is as clear as the nose on my face that the design of the Millennium Dome was based on the EU flag. Perhaps *you* should investigate this matter? Meanwhile I suggest that the information that I have provided is included in the article. It is impolite of you to keep removing my addition. Any article that does not mention the fact that the design of the Dome was based on the EU flag is sadly deficient. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Truebrit333 (talk • contribs) 11:30, 5 December 2013‎ (UTC)

You have to supply a source for such information for it to remain in the article, see WP:CITE. If you persist you are likely to be blocked. Keith D (talk) 12:04, 5 December 2013 (UTC)

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Tech News: 2013-49

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please inform other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

This newsletter is now posted using MediaWiki message delivery.

New features

• The CommonsMetadata feature was added to all wikis. It creates metadata information about multimedia files (like their license) that can be read automatically by computer programs. It not only works for Commons, but for all wikis, and you can use it for files on your wiki by editing templates used to describe metadata. [19]
• JavaScript code used on Wikimedia sites is now saved locally on your computer to load faster. [20]

VisualEditor

• You can now paste formatted content copied from external sources (not just as plain text) into VisualEditor; this includes copy/pasting from other VisualEditor windows. [21]
• You can now open VisualEditor by adding ?veaction=edit to the page URL, regardless of your user preferences. [22]
• Many bugs have been fixed, and VisualEditor should also look faster, for example when you save a page. [23]

Problems

• Due to issues, the new search tool ("CirrusSearch") was recently removed from wikis where it was enabled, then added again. [24]

Future

• MediaWiki 1.23wmf6 was added to test wikis on December 5. It will arrive to non-Wikipedia wikis on December 10 and all Wikipedia wikis on December 12 (calendar).
• The old Etherpad tool (replaced by a new version) will be removed on December 30, 2013. You can still save old pads before that date using the old address: https://etherpad-old.wikimedia.org. [25]

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08:38, 9 December 2013 (UTC)

The Wikipedia Library Survey

As a subscriber to one of The Wikipedia Library's programs, we'd like to hear your thoughts about future donations and project activities in this brief survey. Thanks and cheers, Ocaasi ^{t | c} 14:58, 9 December 2013 (UTC)

Tech News: 2013-50

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please inform other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

New features

• You can now see a legend on Special:RecentChanges and Special:Watchlist that explains the symbols used. [26]
• If your wiki is testing the new search tool ("CirrusSearch"), you can now test it by adding "New search" in your Beta features preferences. [27]

VisualEditor

• The toolbar is now simpler; all text styles (bold, italics, underline, subscript, etc.) are in the same menu, and the "More" menu is called "Insert". [28]
• You can now use a basic tool to add special characters to your text. You can add more characters (useful in your language) by editing the MediaWiki interface on translatewiki.net.
• The tool to add and edit mathematical text is now called "formula". [29]

Problems

• There was a problem with the "Create a book" tool (Collection); books could only be exported to PDF format. The change has been undone. [30]
• The log-in system for external tools ("OAuth") was broken on wikis that tested the new search tool. It was fixed last week. [31] [32]
• Because of a bug, this newsletter is delivered to users using the new MediaWiki message delivery, and to community pages using the old EdwardsBot. [33]

Future

• MediaWiki 1.23wmf7 was added to test wikis on December 12. It will be added to non-Wikipedia wikis on December 17 and all Wikipedia wikis on December 19 (calendar).
• You will soon be able to select the language of SVG images that have translations using a drop-down menu on the image page. (see example) [34]
• GLAMToolset, a tool to help GLAM groups (like museums) upload many pictures to Commons, will be added to Commons on December 17. [35]
• A Draft namespace will be added to the English Wikipedia to make it easier to create new pages. You will be able to use VisualEditor for drafts if you have enabled it. [36] [37]

Other

• You can read the summary of the technical report for November 2013 to learn more about VisualEditor, Mobile and other features. [38]

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08:24, 16 December 2013 (UTC)

Premier league table template

Hi. You are one of the editors involved in the Premier league table template at Wikipedia:Village pump (technical)/Archive 121#Displaying a part of the table. The work is very close to the end and the template now looks like the one currently used at 2013–14 Premier League. I just wanted to see if you could take a look at Template:2013–14 Premier League table/sandbox and the result of the template that can be seen at User:Spudgfsh/sandbox. Please take a look at it and comment on the result. Then it is only to decide if we should highlight the team or not and then we should be ready to use it. Discussion about that on Wikipedia:Village pump (technical)#Highlighting or bolding. Thank you!. QED237 (talk) 11:35, 19 December 2013 (UTC)

Cold?

	Best wishes
	for the holidays and 2014 from a warmer place than where you probably are ;) Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 12:08, 21 December 2013 (UTC)

Tech News: 2013-51

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please inform other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent software changes

• The latest version of MediaWiki (1.23wmf8) was added to test wikis and MediaWiki.org on December 19. It will be enabled on non-Wikipedia wikis on December 31 and on all Wikipedia wikis on January 2, 2014 (calendar).
• You can now test the new search tool ("CirrusSearch") on all Wikisource, Wiktionary and Wikimedia chapter wikis hosted on Foundation servers. Enable "New search" in your Beta features preferences. [39]
• There was a bug where notifications were not sent when the signature of the user leaving the message linked to a translated namespace. The problem was fixed in the software and will soon be fixed on Wikimedia sites. [40] [41]
• You can now use the log-in system for external tools (OAuth) on all Wikimedia wikis that use the unified login. [42]
• If your wiki adds stars or other icons to interwiki links for featured articles in other languages, you may need to change the JavaScript code. [43]
• You can thank other users for their edits even if your browser does not have JavaScript. [44] [45]
• All edits made through Flow, the new discussion system for MediaWiki, are now visible in user's contributions. You can test it on the Flow talk page on MediaWiki.org. [46] [47]
• You can test a visual tool that shows edits made to an article over time. It only works for English Wikipedia pages for now and is slow on long articles. [48]
• You can test the first version of the new mobile Wikipedia app for Android and iOS. [49]
• Translatewiki.net, the site where you can translate the MediaWiki software, now has a new main page for users without an account. [50]

Future software changes

• There will be no technical changes this week (December 23 to December 29) due to end-of-year holidays.
• When someone deletes, restores, uploads, or moves a file on Commons, pages on all wikis that use that file will be refreshed. [51] [52]
• New users will soon have their user and talk pages added to their watchlist as soon as they create an account. [53] [54].
• The new search tool (CirrusSearch) will not show the text of versions of a page that have been hidden. [55] [56]
• You will soon be able to see the raw HTML created by some wikitext by using the Special:ExpandTemplates tool. [57] [58]

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08:22, 23 December 2013 (UTC)

Glad Tidings and all that ...

FWiW Bzuk (talk) 20:15, 26 December 2013 (UTC)

Tech News: 2014-01

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please inform other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent software changes

• You can now see the text of DjVu and PDF files in search results on wikis testing the new search tool (CirrusSearch). [59] [60]
• With the new version of the Wikibase DataModel extension, you can install it outside Wikimedia wikis. [61]

VisualEditor news

• Images are now shown inside VisualEditor as HTML5 <figure /> elements. Comments are welcome. [62]
• You can now test a basic version of VisualEditor on mobile devices; see this article as an example.

Problems

• On December 23, Wikimedia Labs was broken for 4 hours due to an NFS problem. [63]

Future software changes

• CirrusSearch will be added as the second search method for Spanish (es), French (fr), Portuguese (pt) and Russian (ru) wikis on December 30. Wikimedia Commons, Wikispecies and Wikinews users will also be able to enable it in their Beta Features options.
• AbuseFilter log entries will be visible in CheckUser tool reports. [64] [65]
• It will soon be possible to search for log entries done by users without an account. [66] [67]
• It will no longer be possible to globally hide users with more than 1,000 edits. [68] [69]

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08:40, 30 December 2013 (UTC)

Tech News: 2014-02

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please inform other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent software changes

• The latest version of MediaWiki (1.23wmf9) was added to test wikis and MediaWiki.org on January 2. It will be enabled on non-Wikipedia wikis on January 7 and on all Wikipedia wikis on January 9 (calendar).
• The old note-taking site (Etherpad) was removed on December 30, 2013. You can see most of the documents on the new site. [70]

Problems

• On January 2, Wikimedia Commons, Wikidata and all Wikivoyage projects were broken for 2 hours due to language cache update issues.
• On the same day, it was not possible to edit most wikis for about 30 minutes, due to a database replication problem.

Future software changes

• The new search tool (CirrusSearch) will be added as the default search method for Italian Wikipedia, French Wikisource, Wikidata and all Wikivoyage sites, and as a second search method for the German Wikipedia and all Wikibooks sites on January 6. [71]
• Spanish, French, Portuguese and Russian Wikipedia users will also be able to enable CirrusSearch in their Beta Features options. [72]
• Plural form rules for some languages will be changed. Many translations of the user interface for Belarusian, Russian, Serbian, Ukrainian and other languages will need to be changed. [73] [74] [75]
• You will see a warning when you try to delete a page linked to from other pages. [76] [77]
• You will be able to hide redirect pages on the list of protected pages. [78] [79]
• You will be able to use keyboard shortcuts in the Translate tool, by pressing Alt+1 and similar key groups. [80] [81]
• E-mails sent by MediaWiki will include the name of the site in their From: line. You will be able to change this name on your wiki by editing the MediaWiki:Emailsender page. [82] [83]
• Images viewed in the Beta Features media viewer will load faster. [84] [85]

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08:35, 6 January 2014 (UTC)

Templates

Hello Keith. Advice please on these templates. I've been adding {{Use British English}} to some English place articles. The similar temp {{EngvarB}} is also available and appears to do the same thing although, from what I can glean, it provides some kind of device whereby other corrections can be made through the bowels of Wikipedia – too complicated for me to understand. I've brought up the use of the two with Ohconfucus [86], who adds 'EngvarB', and has been very helpful. I think I've noticed that you change 'EngvarB' to 'Use British English' at times. Though the temps 'Use dmy dates' and 'Use British English' at tops of edit windows do give the uninitiated clear advice, is there an advantage in adding 'EngvarB' as well to help with Ohconfucius's processing ? I have started adding both in some articles but don't want to go too far and give myself extra self-reverting work. Do you have a view on these templates ? Many thanks. Acabashi (talk) 14:15, 6 January 2014 (UTC)

There should only be one of the Use xxx language templates in an article so that you know which variant to use. The {{engvar}} is a generic one and I usually replace it with a more specific one when I spot it, though leave for Irish and other articles where it could be contentious. Keith D (talk) 14:23, 6 January 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for that. I'll just use the {{Use British English}} in English place articles from now on. Acabashi (talk) 14:58, 6 January 2014 (UTC)

Accessdates

There's no need to add accessdates to publications have have a publication date, and will not change eg accessdate: Template:Citation#cite_note-dates-1 Not required for web pages or linked documents that do not change; mainly for use of web pages that change frequently or have no publication date

That should included dated news items on the web, excluding breaking news and all dated published documents.

Please stop adding when unnecessary - they are unneeded and can be distracting.Prof.Haddock (talk) 17:01, 7 January 2014 (UTC)

(You also don't need an accessdate for documents from a dated archive - for obvious reasons).

Accessdates should be given for web documents so that you can find out when they were accessed and can track down when they do to dead links. You will find that they are required for getting articles to FA standard and so should be present in articles. They are part of the reference and not distracting, they should not be reemoved. Keith D (talk) 17:07, 7 January 2014 (UTC)

George Hussey Packe

Apologies for monopolising your time again. I've dropped a message on Lincs Talk, for a Talk page assessment for newish add George Hussey Packe. Robert appears to be taking a break so could you assess please and give the article a once-over to see if I've made any fluffs ? As you seem conversant with railway articles, does this one fall within any railway projects ? Many thanks. Acabashi (talk) 22:46, 8 January 2014 (UTC)

No problem. I have rated it as Low importance and C-class. Unsure of the importance level that Robert is using but cannot see it been higher that that. He also appears to go higher for the class rating that I would. On the article unsure on the UK in the lead may be it is OK for that time period but would check. Keith D (talk) 23:52, 8 January 2014 (UTC)

Thanks. I went UK because I'm supposing that this is the political manifestation defined in 1801 (when it added Ireland), but if you think English or British is better I will change it. Acabashi (talk) 00:44, 9 January 2014 (UTC)

I was just querying it, I do not know the answer here. Keith D (talk) 00:46, 9 January 2014 (UTC)

Tech News: 2014-03

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please inform other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

You can read a recent blog post about how Tech News is put together, translated and sent to you across wikis each week.

Recent software changes

• The latest version of MediaWiki (1.23wmf10) was added to test wikis and MediaWiki.org on January 9. It will be added to non-Wikipedia wikis on January 14, and all Wikipedia wikis on January 16 (calendar).
• Searching in the File: namespace on Wikimedia Commons may be slow due to a search engine issue. [87]

VisualEditor news

• VisualEditor will be added for all users on several Wikipedias on January 13. [88]
• You can now add and remove __NOTOC__, __FORCETOC__ and __NOEDITSECTION__ in the page metadata menu. [89] [90] [91]

Problems

• For a few hours on January 6, it was not possible to edit pages using the Translate tool on Wikimedia Commons and the Wikimania 2013 wiki, due to a settings error. [92] [93]
• For about 20 minutes on January 9, there were problems with CSS and JavaScript due to high server load.

Future software changes

• Wikidata will be added to all Wikisource wikis on January 14. [94]
• The new search tool (CirrusSearch) will be added as the second search method for the English Wikipedia on January 13. On Wikibooks and the German Wikipedia, you will also be able to test it by adding it in your Beta Features options.
• You will soon be able to export page collections into other formats than PDF. [95]
• It will soon be possible to upload groups of photos from Flickr using UploadWizard. [96] [97]
• The Wikimedia Foundation has shared a multimedia vision for 2016. You are invited to comment. [98]

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09:33, 13 January 2014 (UTC)

RFC: Month abbreviations

Hi Keith D! Your input at Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style#RFC: Month abbreviations would be appreciated. Thanks! GoingBatty (talk) 04:55, 14 January 2014 (UTC)

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Gaping Gill

Hi, Keith D

You will have noticed that I have recently made a start on creating articles on the entrances of Gaping Gill (Bar Pot, Stream Passage Pot, Jib Tunnel, Disappointment Pot, and Rat Hole have been written so far). This was motivated by the fact that the Gaping Gill itself article is pretty dreadful, and I thought that the best way of getting it sorted was by hiving off its secondary entrances into separate articles, and taking on the Gaping Gill Main Shaft and the Gaping Gill System as one article at a later date. I have tried to make the articles I have written as definitive as possible (I was aiming for GA standard - i.e. full description and full history, all fully referenced).

I thank you for rating those articles. I have no arguments with the 'C' Class rating rating you have given, but I do not think the main Gaping Gill article, which has also been rated 'C' Class, is comparable with the standard of those articles. Gaping Gill one of the major cave systems in the UK which is world famous, and which has a history of exploration going back 170 years. It is a complex system over 16 kilometres (9.9 mi) long, with a geological history stretching over at least three glaciations. Compare, say Rat Hole with the Gaping Gill article and then consider that Rat Hole is simply an entrance into the Gaping Gill Main Chamber.

In my view, the Gaping Gill article merits no more than a Stub class. Langcliffe (talk) 08:19, 20 January 2014 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) I had a look at the article, out of curiosity. It's certainly not a stub, though I wouldn't argue between "start" and "C" - but I was surprised to see it ranked as "Low" importance. As Langcliffe sets out above, it's nationally and internationally important. I'm not a caver (though I've been down it on the Bank Holiday winch), but I think it should be ranked higher. 85.211.32.181 (talk) 08:43, 20 January 2014 (UTC)

You may well be right about the Gaping Gill assessment, 85.211.32.181. The reason why I think that it merits no more than a 'Stub' class is that it consists of a random sequence of snippets about the system, without any context and without any clear idea of the relative importance of those facts. Moreover, some of the 'facts' are misleading - e.g. relating the volume of York Minster to that of the Main Chamber. It was always said that the two were similar, but the laser scanning technology demonstrated that York Minster is actually considerably larger. Langcliffe (talk) 09:50, 20 January 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for the work on the new articles. I have had another look and I can see that I should not have up-rated it to a C-class article, though I think there is more there than just a stub with the number of references, images and some structure so I have reverted to a Start-class article. At suggestion about importance I have changed this to a Mid-importance. More difficult to judge this as there is no guidance to go on from the caves project who do not appear to have any grading system at all. Keith D (talk) 12:11, 20 January 2014 (UTC)

Tech News: 2014-04

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please inform other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent software changes

• The latest version of MediaWiki (1.23wmf11) was added to test wikis and MediaWiki.org on January 16. It will be added to non-Wikipedia wikis on January 28, and all Wikipedia wikis on January 30 (calendar).
• You can now see relatively recent results on special pages like Special:DoubleRedirects, Special:UncategorizedPages or Special:WantedCategories. They were disabled before because they were very slow. The results are now updated once a month. [99]
• As of January 16, you can make and use guided tours on the Asturian, Farsi and Russian Wikipedias. If you want this tool on your wiki, you need to translate it and ask in Bugzilla. [100] [101]
• You can give comments on an idea to have a fixed toolbar at the top of wiki pages. [102]
• You can watch a video to learn how to report problems in Bugzilla. [103]

VisualEditor news

• In the toolbar, the menu to edit the styles (like bold, italic, etc.) now has a down arrow (). The order of the Insert menu has also changed a little.
• You can now edit <gallery /> tags with a very basic tool. [104]
• You can now see a help page about keyboard shortcuts in the page menu. [105]
• When you change categories, you will now see them when you save the page. [106]
• When you edit templates, you will now see the parameters in the right order. The ones that you must add have a star (*). [107] [108]
• The page will now be saved faster, thanks to a new way of coding the text that sends 40% less text to the servers. [109]
• Your wiki can ask to test a new tool to edit TemplateData. [110]

Problems

• There was a problem with search on the English and German Wikipedias between January 6 and January 14. You could not see new pages and changes in search results. [111]
• There were "pool timeouts" errors on several wikis on January 13; it was caused by a code change that was made to fix another problem. [112]
• On January 17, Bugzilla and Wikimedia Labs were broken for about 20 minutes due to network problems. IRC channels with recent changes (irc.wikimedia.org) were broken for about two hours. [113]

Future software changes

Orange bar with new messages

• If you have removed JavaScript in your web browser, you will soon be able to see the orange bar saying that you have new messages. If you have changed how the bar looks with a gadget, you may need to change the gadget again. [114] [115]
• You will soon be able to add a given Flickr user to a blacklist so that their files can't be uploaded using UploadWizard on Wikimedia Commons and other wikis. [116]
• You will see a warning when you try to delete a page included in at least one other page. [117]
• You will so longer see disambiguation pages in Special:LonelyPages. [118] [119]

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10:22, 20 January 2014 (UTC)

National Westminster Bank

Hi. I wondered if you'd please care to add a comment at Talk:National Westminster Bank#Article Rename. Thanks. -- Trevj (talk · contribs) 15:38, 24 January 2014 (UTC)

Tech News: 2014-05

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please inform other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent software changes

• Pages from Wikimedia sites now load faster in your browser thanks to "module storage", a way for your browser to save data like JavaScript and CSS on your computer to avoid downloading them again. See video. [120]
• The code used to show videos has changed. You should be able to play the video on the page, with the play button on top of the video. If you see the play button on the right of the video, or if clicking on the video leads you to the original file, please file a bug or tell User:Bawolff. [121]
• The Special:ActiveUsers page will be removed because it's too slow. [122]
• The latest version of MediaWiki (1.23wmf11) was added to test wikis and MediaWiki.org on January 16. It will be added to non-Wikipedia wikis on January 28, and all Wikipedia wikis on January 30 (calendar).

Problems

• On January 21, Universal Language Selector was turned off on all Wikimedia sites because it makes pages load slowly. If you want to use web fonts, or write in scripts that aren't on your keyboard, you need to add it as an option in your preferences. It will be turned back on when the issues are resolved. [123]
• For about 20 minutes on the same day, there were problems with CSS and JavaScript due to high server load.

Future software changes

• You can give comments about the new version of "Winter", a proposal to have a fixed toolbar at the top of wiki pages. [124]

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09:46, 27 January 2014 (UTC)

How did you undo a whole bunch of edits in one fell swoop?

How did you revert three consecutive vandal edits in one stroke as you just did here? In such cases why do I have to use three consecutive undos? Contact Basemetal here 14:21, 31 January 2014 (UTC)

In that case I use the Rollback link as they are all by the same user. If they are by different editors or you do not have rollback then you can do the same thing by doing a compare versions from the history list and then using the undo. Keith D (talk) 14:31, 31 January 2014 (UTC)

WikiProject Yorkshire Newsletter - February 2014

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Tech News: 2014-06

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please inform other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent software changes

• The latest version of MediaWiki (1.23wmf12) was added to test wikis and MediaWiki.org on January 30. It will be added to non-Wikipedia wikis on February 4, and all Wikipedia wikis on February 6 (calendar).
• Global AbuseFilter rules are now active on all small wikis. [125] [126]
• The buttons used in pages like log-in, account creation and search are now using the same colors and styles. [127] [128]
• You can now link to diffs using [[Special:Diff/12345]] and similar links. [129]
• There is no longer an option to hide tables of contents on all pages. [130]
• Searching in the File: namespace on Wikimedia Commons is now faster, after a bug was fixed on January 29. [131]
• All Wikimedia wikis now have high-resolution favicons. [132]

VisualEditor news

• You can now see a list of keyboard shortcuts by pressing Ctrl+/ inside VisualEditor. [133]

Future software changes

• Edits and files hidden with the Oversight tool will be moved to the RevisionDelete system. The Oversight tool will then be removed from Wikimedia wikis. [134] [135] [136]
• For languages where not all sister projects exist, you will be able to link to other language projects using double interwikis (:ko:v, :v:ko, etc.). [137]
• It will soon be possible to use the GettingStarted tool on other wikis than the English Wikipedia. You can translate it on Translatewiki.net. [138]
• You will soon be able to include the Special:Contributions page into other pages. [139]
• You will be able to see where a file is used inside MultimediaViewer, the new tool for viewing media files. [140] [141]
• It will soon be possible to send MassMessage messages using the API. [142]
• You will soon see audio statistics on the Special:TimedMediaHandler page. [143]

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08:30, 3 February 2014 (UTC)

Tech News: 2014-07

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please inform other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent software changes

• The latest version of MediaWiki (1.23wmf13) was added to test wikis and MediaWiki.org on February 6. It will be added to non-Wikipedia wikis on February 11, and all Wikipedia wikis on February 13 (calendar).
• The Vector search box was changed to fix old display and accessibility issues; for example, you can now use full-text search even if you have disabled JavaScript. Please report any problems you see. The option to disable the "simplified search bar" on Vector will also be removed. [144] [145] [146] [147] [148]
• You are now notified when someone adds a link to your user page on wikis where it didn't work before (wikis with dates in the year-month-day order, including Hungarian, Japanese, Korean and some variants of Chinese). [149]

VisualEditor news

• You can now set media items' alt text and position, and directly set their size, in the media tool. [150] [151]
• The gallery tool was improved and several issues were fixed. [152] [153] [154]

Problems

• On February 3, all wikis were broken for about an hour due to a traffic balancing issue. [155]
• On February 6, some wikis were broken for about half an hour in total due to a problem with the Math extension.

Future software changes

• Some methods from Scribunto's mw.message library will be removed after February 18. If you use them in your templates or modules, please check to make sure that things will not break. [156] [157]
• You will soon be able to use GettingStarted on 23 new Wikipedias. It helps new users by listing possible tasks and giving help. The new version was also added to the English Wikipedia on February 7th. [158]
• You will soon see results from other wikis when you use the new search tool (CirrusSearch). [159] [160]
• The WikiLove tool was redesigned and should also load faster. [161]
• Edits made with WikiLove or after a GettingStarted suggestion will be tagged. [162] [163]
• It will soon no longer be possible to hide section editing links in your preferences. [164]
• You will soon be able to use the revision deletion feature via the API. [165]
• You will soon be able to choose mobile view on non-mobile devices using a Beta Feature option. [166] [167]
• If you have questions about Universal Language Selector, you can join an IRC meeting on February 12 at 17:00 UTC, in the #wikimedia-office channel on Freenode. [168]
• Developers are preparing for Google Summer of Code 2014. You can propose ideas. [169]
• bugzilla.wikimedia.org will be updated this week. You won't be able to access it from 22:00 UTC on February 12 until 01:00 UTC on February 13 at the latest. [170]
• The <poem> tag will be renamed to <lines>. The old tag will still work. [171]

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09:30, 10 February 2014 (UTC)

Suth anston listed at Redirects for discussion

An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect Suth anston. Since you had some involvement with the Suth anston redirect, you might want to participate in the redirect discussion if you have not already done so. Jamesmcmahon0 (talk) 10:29, 12 February 2014 (UTC)

Lawence Sheriff School

You object to the Lawrence Sheriff Postings. What is the objection? I can email you the data as evidence, including emails and the letter from DfE and the Local Government Ombudsman. Why do you keep removing facts which are clear important issues? The public have a right to know facts. This is also discussed on 11plus.eu and the links are genuine. Evidence is available. LawrenceSheriff (talk) 13:20, 13 February 2014 (UTC)

Sorry if I undid some of your work. I am new to Wiki. I am not sure if I am "Talking" to you in the correct manner. No, there is not a war. Everything is factual. I provided links to articles and can even email you the DfE letter and the LGO correspondence. These are purely facts I also added the school was 7th in GCSE tables (not a bad thing) and also pointed out 25% did not achieve the EB (fact). The Outstanding OFSTED report is very old - over 6 years old and as such is not recent. It should really be removed. OFSTED also visited the school due to bullying and the police visiting the school many times - I did not post this. LawrenceSheriff (talk) 13:37, 13 February 2014 (UTC)

Recurring problem at Hetherington

Hello, Keith D! Last summer you semi-protected Hetherington for three months because of repeated, unsourced, & undiscussed changes by IPs. (AGF I wouldn’t go so far as to call it vandalism, as it seems the subject is now a mostly Scots & Irish surname, despite its English origin. But that’s neither here nor there, considering that sourced content is being removed in favour of personal anecdotes.) Please have a look at the history and see if you think the situation warrants renewed protection for the article. If you’d rather I went to RfPP, that’s fine; I just thought I’d contact you first.—Odysseus1479 05:33, 15 February 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for bringing this up, I am happy to semi-protect again as looks like nothing productive since November. Things seem to have escalated since I last reverted at end of January. Keith D (talk) 12:18, 15 February 2014 (UTC)

Tech News: 2014-08

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please inform other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent software changes

• The latest version of MediaWiki (1.23wmf14) was added to test wikis and MediaWiki.org on February 13. It will be added to non-Wikipedia wikis on February 18, and all Wikipedia wikis on February 20 (calendar).
• You can now use the list of active users again. [172] [173]
• The new search tool (CirrusSearch) now gives more importance to content namespaces if you search in several namespaces. [174]
• You can now directly link to files viewed with MultimediaViewer, the new tool for viewing media files. [175]
• You can read the summary of the Wikimedia technical report for January 2014. [176]

Problems

• On February 9, Wikimedia Labs was broken for about 2 hours due to an XFS file system problem. [177]
• On February 11, there were problems with VisualEditor for about 20 minutes due to a server logging issue. [178]
• On the same day, for about 20 minutes there were issues with page loading due to database problems.
• There were issues with page loading between 21:00 UTC on February 13 and 11:00 UTC on February 14 for users in Europe. It was due to a cache server problem.
• On February 14, all sites were broken for about 15 minutes for users in Southeast Asia, Oceania and the western part of North America. It was due to problems with cache servers.

VisualEditor news

• The link tool now tells you when you're linking to a disambiguation or redirect page. [179]
• You can now change image display (like thumbnail, frame and frameless) with VisualEditor. [180]
• Wikitext warnings will now hide when you remove wikitext from paragraphs you are editing. [181]
• You will soon be able to create and edit redirect pages with VisualEditor. [182] [183] [184]

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08:38, 17 February 2014 (UTC)

Tech News: 2014-09

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please inform other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent software changes

• The latest version of MediaWiki (1.23wmf15) was added to test wikis and MediaWiki.org on February 20. It will be added to non-Wikipedia wikis on February 25, and all Wikipedia wikis on February 27 (calendar).
• The new search tool (CirrusSearch) was added to the Italian Wikiquote and all Wikiversity projects. Users can now enable it in their Beta options. [185] [186]
• The Universal Language Selector was enabled on all Wikimedia wikis again. You can enable web fonts in your ULS options (see how).

VisualEditor news

• You will soon be able to add and edit __STATICREDIRECT__, __[NO]INDEX__ and __[NO]NEWEDITSECTION__ in the page settings menu. [187] [188] [189]
• You will soon be able to use the Ctrl+Alt+S or ⌘+Opt+S shortcuts to open the save window in VisualEditor. [190] [191]
• You will soon be able to preview your edit summary when checking your changes in the save window. [192] [193]

Future software changes

• You will soon be able to use the <categorytree> tag again. [194]
• You will soon be able to post messages with the MassMessage tool in all talk namespaces. [195] [196]
• Notifications will soon work in all namespaces. [197][198][199]

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10:18, 24 February 2014 (UTC)

David Cameron.

Keith, I wonder if you can give your unbiased opinion on the latest encyclopedic efforts by Special:Contributions/193.63.173.254 on Cameron & other pages? Regards JRPG (talk) 17:51, 25 February 2014 (UTC)

All look like vandalism and worthy of another block. Before a block I would suggest that you issue them with a warning and see if that stops their activity. Keith D (talk) 18:00, 25 February 2014 (UTC)

Edit summary

Hi Keith, I think the parameters are "deprecated" rather than "depreciated": the latter is what happens to savings etc! PamD 18:48, 1 March 2014 (UTC)

Thanks. Rather too late after a few hundred articles, hopefully I can get it right for future ones though the incorrect one is still in the browser list. Keith D (talk) 19:35, 1 March 2014 (UTC)

WikiProject Yorkshire Newsletter - March 2014

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Tech News: 2014-10

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please inform other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent software changes

• The latest version of MediaWiki (1.23wmf16) was added to test wikis and MediaWiki.org on February 27. It will be added to non-Wikipedia wikis on March 4, and all Wikipedia wikis on March 6 (calendar).
• When users enable web fonts by default, Universal Language Selector will now log if they don't have fonts to display pages correctly. This information will be used by developers to improve font support in the future. Read more about missing fonts. [200]
• You can now use Guided tours on the Czech and Japanese Wikipedia. If you want this tool on your wiki, you need to translate it and ask in Bugzilla. [201] [202]
• You can now use information from Wikidata in all Wikisource wikis. [203]
• The multimedia team is now posting weekly updates on their mailing list. [204]

VisualEditor news

• You can now change image size to default for your wiki. If you add new images to pages, they will also be default size. [205] [206] [207]
• If you switch from VisualEditor to wikitext editing, your edit will now be tagged. [208]
• Template parameters now have a bigger, auto-sizing input box for easier editing. [209]
• VisualEditor now has Arabic, Finnish and Kölsch icons for text styling. If you want icons for your language, ask in Bugzilla. [210] [211] [212]

Future software changes

• The new tool for viewing media files will soon show a progress bar and a thumbnail while loading full images. [213] [214]
• You will soon be able to make user contributions show only page creations. [215] [216]
• Article Feedback Tool will be removed from the English and French Wikipedias on March 3. It will also no longer be possible to add this tool to any Wikimedia wiki. [217] [218]
• Wikis using the new search tool will come back to the old tool for a few hours starting at 00:00 UTC on March 6. [219]

Problems

• For about an hour on February 23, there were problems with page loading due to a MediaWiki bug. [220]

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09:30, 3 March 2014 (UTC)

Showroom Cinema, Sheffield

Hello

i saw that you had been on the showroom site and edited a bit of it. I am editing that page currently for my University course and i was wondering if you have time you could go look at it and see if there's anything that you believe needs changing about it. Liamparlett (talk) 09:21, 4 March 2014 (UTC)

Hello, the references need to give more detail such as the publisher, date of publication and an access date. Some of the references are duplicates and should be combined using <ref name="ref1">....</ref> for the first occurrence and then just use <ref name="ref1"/> for subsequent usages.

Unsure about the context tag that someone has added as looks OK, though may be it just applies to the list which could do with some introductory text. The list tag could be dealt with either by converting the list to a table or by changing it to prose.

Hope this helps. Keith D (talk) 12:10, 4 March 2014 (UTC)

Wikipedia:WikiProject Coventry

WikiProject status guidelines state that a project is inactive if there has been no significant edits to the main page in at least 4 months and, in the case of this project, it's been a year. But I wish you good luck in reviving it (although it could get tagged again in the future). Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 17:14, 6 March 2014 (UTC)

There may not be edits to the main page but there is still tagging etc going on. Keith D (talk) 17:20, 6 March 2014 (UTC)

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