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Regarding the section that was removed

Could you please restore the Marzpanate Period (Marzpanate Armenia) section in the template ? Thank you. 75.51.173.37 (talk) 00:17, 13 November 2012 (UTC)

Do me another favor while you are at it? Restore the template in the version you had it yesterday ok? I looked almost every other country , and their history template dont hide/show, and its expanded all in all their articles ok? Please don't make things difficult here. Please restore, I know you have seen the examples of other countries, if not please take a look at them, Template:History of China, Template:History of Iran, etc etc. When you go to the articles on their templates, they dont hide other sections. Thank you. 75.51.173.37 (talk) 00:36, 13 November 2012 (UTC)

See History of France, History of Spain, History of Greece, History of Italy, History of Japan, and there are more. On the page of History of Armenia, they are all open (nothing is hidden). Then, when you click on one of the articles, it stays open for its respectful age (see Satrapy of Armenia). The problem with the way it was before is that it's too large. In fact, it was the largest History template for a country on Wikipedia. This way, it's not so overwhelming. Kentronhayastan (talk) 00:42, 13 November 2012 (UTC)

Another point, since when are Persians 3200 BC ANCIENT ? Or Chinese ANCIENT from 3rd millennium BC? Did you not notice that lovely word ANCIENT there in the 3200 BC Persian history (see History of Iran)? We can have that also where you put Bronze and Iron Age. Apparently someone was trying to show you this earlier, but you seem to have missed it in these templates? ? 75.51.173.37 (talk) 00:44, 13 November 2012 (UTC)

Please restore the ANCIENT word atleast than? Sorry buddy, Im just not buying what you are trying to do here. Your huge additions and expansions of the "Middle" and "Early Modern" ages, is the reason the template is the largest in Wikipedia, by adding in a whole bunch of sections in the "Middle" and "Early Modern" ages. You purposely did this, so that you can later have your reason to hide certain things in the template. If you notice the contents in the older template was not so long in the "Middle" and "Early Modern" ages sections. 75.51.173.37 (talk) 00:46, 13 November 2012 (UTC)

You're clearly FROST, but since your account was blocked for edit warring, you're speaking to me while being logged out. Ancient and Antiquity are synonymous (SEE Antiquity). You can't have Ancient and Antiquity in the same template for different eras.Kentronhayastan (talk) 03:15, 13 November 2012 (UTC)

Stop trying to "distort" what Im saying, when you clearly know Im right. I said if its the same word than why dont we use the word ANCIENT instead? I told you Template:History of Iran has the word ANCIENT even earlier time of 3200 BC! Explain to me this, than I can have proper discussion with you. 75.51.172.205 (talk) 04:11, 13 November 2012 (UTC)

You need to discuss it on the Talk page of the template, not here. Ancient refers to any period before the Middle Ages, but Armenia began in the 6th century BC. Prior to that, they were either non-Armenian states or proro-Armenian states. The correct wording is @prehistory@ (since it is before the history of Armenia per-se), but due to your arrogance, I assumed Bronze & Iron Age were the most accurate wording for that period. What's so special about the word Ancient anyway? Is it simply because you want to win an argument senselessly? Kentronhayastan (talk) 04:14, 13 November 2012 (UTC)

Did you get what I said or you need to look again to the link I showed you? I said where they have that word ANCIENT is 3200 BC, our Antiquity word is starting from much much later. Cant you see what Im saying? I know you do, so tell me why you have issue when its clearly saying ANCIENT for them, at a time where its much much earlier than where it says Antiquity for Armenia history. We can change that word to something else, so we can also put in the ANCIENT in the Bronze & Iron Age part, just as History of Iran has it. 75.51.172.205 (talk) 04:15, 13 November 2012 (UTC)

Talk on the template's talk page, not here. I won't reply here anymore. Kentronhayastan (talk) 04:15, 13 November 2012 (UTC)

I told you for the 1000's time, Persians didnt exist in 3200 BC! And they have ANCIENT in their template 3200 BC!. 75.51.172.205 (talk) 04:23, 13 November 2012 (UTC)

I told you several times to discuss it on the talk page of the template. That way, others can see it and can contribute to the discussions. Wikipedia doesn't belong to you. So far, 4 people seem to disagree with you while 0 seem to agree. Stop your edit war, and when your FROST account gets unblocked, discuss your ideas on the talk page first. Thank you. Kentronhayastan (talk) 04:26, 13 November 2012 (UTC)

What im discussing with you is not what you are referring to "disagreeing". This is a different issue Im talking about what is on the template, not how the template is suppose to appear, long, wide , short, or whatever. The issue about the word ANCIENT being used in a place where it shouldnt belong respectively in the History of Iran and not in the History of Armenia, is a different issue all together, than the expansion of the template. 75.51.172.205 (talk) 04:29, 13 November 2012 (UTC)

It's still related to the template, and I have invited you to discuss it there many times so that others can decide with us which method is correct. I'm off. When you get unbanned, please discuss it in the talk page of the template. Thank you. Kentronhayastan (talk) 04:33, 13 November 2012 (UTC)

My lovely friend, you still havent gave me an answer why they have ANCIENT in 3200 BC, and why we cant, you realize these other users are slowly going to realize, if not already, what im talking about, and that you are an imposter, your name in Armenian for them that dont know means Heart of Armenia. So I suggest you either show yourself true, or you are an imposter. I told you a simple question regarding why our lovely friends of Iran Persia, can have ANCIENT in 3200 BC of there HISTORY OF IRAN TEMPLATE, and our HISTORY OF ARMENIA is not allowed to in that area of time I just mentioned to you. Got it buddy? 75.51.172.205 (talk) 04:58, 13 November 2012 (UTC)

You just changed the word to ANTIQUITY in the History of Iran part for the same 3200 BC time! You didnt do anything different there. Who are you trying to fool? Its the same meaning you put in the same era, put the same word , one of those words in the same ERA in the History of Armenia, where you have Bronze Iron Age. The issue is not if the word is ANTIQUITY or ANCIENT, the issue is where you put it in 3200 BC time for them and for History of Armenia you dont put it at that time. 75.51.172.205 (talk) 05:12, 13 November 2012 (UTC)

Look at: Template talk:History of Armenia. I have gone out of my way to include your suggestion on your behalf on the talk page of the History Template. You are a blocked user, and should not be editing. When you get unblocked, you are more than welcome to make your point in the talk page of the template. The templates of Iran is irrelevant to the template of Armenia. I can use the same type of fallacious argument: Georgia's template uses Prehistory, Bronze Age and Antiquity. Thank you for understanding. Kentronhayastan (talk) 05:24, 13 November 2012 (UTC)

Please restore back Kingdom of Armenia, where you changed it again to Armenia major. Thanks.

And you obviously dont get it about the History of Iran. I told you Proto-Iranians didnt even exist in 3200 BC, and it says ANTIQUITY in the 3200 BC period! While in our template its in the Achaemenid empire time you put Antiquity. Please put "PREHISTORY" for the History of Iran part you put ANTIQUITY. Can you change that word to PREHISTORY? Since you changed it earlier to ANTIQUITY in the 3200 BC period? Thank you. So just to be fair, I ask you to change where you put ANTIQUTY to PREHISTORY in the History of Iran template. 76.232.253.109 (talk) 18:42, 13 November 2012 (UTC)

Im not asking you to change anything of these in the History of Armenia template, but dont put ANTIQUITY all the way to 3200 BC Stone and Copper Age, for the History of Iran, and we have the word ANTIQUITY in the Achaemenid Empire period. Do you see what I mean now? So put PREHISTORY for the History of Iran 3200 BC Proto-Elamite period. That way its fair, and I dont ask you to put Antiquity where you put Prehistory in the History of Armenia template. 76.232.253.109 (talk) 18:52, 13 November 2012 (UTC)

Please see: Template:History of Greater Iran. Second of all, I'm reporting you again. You are banned and not supposed to made edits anymore. Had you have been patient and waited for your ban on Frost778 to be lifted, we would have discussed further. Kentronhayastan (talk) 19:00, 13 November 2012 (UTC)

These are basic little changes, please restore back Kingdom of Armenia where you put Armenia Major, and the Template:History of Greater Iran template is not what they are using now. Their main template like the History of Armenia template is the History of Iran template. The one that has the new style you put also for the Armenia template. So put the word PREHISTORY where you put ANTIQUITY in the Proto-Elamite History of Iran 3200 BC. 67.150.122.222 (talk) 19:21, 13 November 2012 (UTC)

This is my last reply to you. You have been banned. You shouldn't be here. I will not follow you requests since I believe my edits make more sense than what you are suggesting. If you hadn't gotten yourself banned, we could have discussed it. Have a nice day, Kentronhayastan (talk) 19:21, 13 November 2012 (UTC)

Thank you for fixing it, and understanding me. And restore the name Kingdom of Armenia, where you put Armenia Major. Its POV pushing, you saying more correct term, no its not, I already told you the first "Kingdom of Armenia" that is showing NOW in the template is in the Middle Ages??? 67.150.122.222 (talk) 19:25, 13 November 2012 (UTC)

The Empire link should be in bold, like the other bold links. And please restore Kingdom of Armenia name instead of Armenia Major. Thanks. 67.150.124.42 (talk) 19:54, 13 November 2012 (UTC)

Why are you lying in the Talk:Template: History of Armenia? The Marzpanate Period was there already in the NEW template, and than you purposely removed it. Thats why at the very top of this talk page I wrote to you to restore that part back. Stop trying to get away with lies. I will make sure they find out about you. So I said again, please restore back Kingdom of Armenia, and put BOLD for Empire link also. 67.150.124.42 (talk) 21:00, 13 November 2012 (UTC)

Check the date and time when I re-added the Marzpanate Period to the template (00:33, 13 November 2012) and when the section was added to the talk page (16:12, 13 November 2012) by Frietjes. I never said you were the one who added it. Please stop writing on my talk page. Kentronhayastan (talk) 21:14, 13 November 2012 (UTC)

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You lied to me again? Why is the Template:History of Iran saying "Ancient" again? I thought you put "Prehistory". Will you change it back to "Prehistory" please thank you. 66.53.216.84 (talk) 04:28, 23 November 2012 (UTC)

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Kingdom of Armenia (antiquity)

That IP user is an edit warrior. He was doing the same in the Armenians article as well as the Armenian Language article. The user was editing sourced information because they did not like it. I told a mod about the user and they blocked he reverted the edits and protected the page. According to the "protection" status, it was reverted to before the edit warring. I don't think the user is correct and the information should be reverted to before they started making changes. Also according to "The Kingdom of Armenia: A History"

1.) The nascent kingdom of Urartu amidst Hurria chieftainships and principalities, in the land of Armenia from 2300 BC to 1300 BC.

2.) The Urartian period c. 1300-c 600BC; first monarchy of Armenia.

3.) Period in which Armenian insurgents and invaders were expelling or absorbing the Urartians c. 590-530 BC.

4.) First Achaemenian satrapies in Armenia, under Cyrus the Great (530 BC) to the end of the Achaemenids (331 BC).

5.) The royal house of Orontes c. 330-c. 190 BC; second monarchy of Armenia. http://books.google.com/books?id=OR_PHoKZ6ycC&pg=SL26-PA77&lpg=SL26-PA77&dq=kingdom+of+armenia+331+bc&source=bl&ots=eY0xvmIMoQ&sig=CvcjYR2BXKr9p3ATeQeGDOtPmH8&hl=en&sa=X&ei=x0xxU4yPPM2YyATE9YCoCw&ved=0CGUQ6AEwCjgK#v=onepage&q=kingdom%20of%20armenia%20331%20bc&f=false

or you can try this website. http://www.armenian-history.com/HISTORY.htmNinetoyadome (talk) 22:33, 12 May 2014 (UTC)

I don't know if i can get involved because i am under probation for being involved in edit wars with IP users, such as this individual. The best coarse of action is to report the user to a mod, i would recommend User:Dougweller. Ninetoyadome (talk) 03:10, 20 May 2014 (UTC)

I reported the user, will let you know once the mod responds. Ninetoyadome (talk) 04:44, 20 May 2014 (UTC)

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Entirety of this article is biased and based on the modern studies which in no way are reliable. I also think this article should be deleted because "Zakarid Armenia" is not a real term, it is a term made up by modern scholars but the historical scholars never mention it as "Zakarid Armenia" I will get on saying the other errors of article right now. 1)According to author, Zakarid Armenia[2] (Armenian: Զաքարյան Հայաստան Zakaryan Hayastan), was an Armenian principality between 1201 and 1360, ruled by the Zakarid-Mkhargrzeli dynasty. The city of Ani was the capital of the princedom. The Zakarids were vassals to the Bagrationi dynasty in Georgia, but frequently acted independently and at times titled themselves as kings I see several errors here which I tried to fix but the main editor of page keeps deleting it and warning me, so: 2)- There is no source cited regarding the actual "capital" of so called "Zakarid Armenia" becuase there would be no such thing most likely. 3)- the following claim "but frequently acted independently and at times titled themselves as kings" is backed up only by a single source which says: The degree of Armenian dependence on Georgia during this period is still the subject of considerable controversy. The numerous Zak'arid inscriptions leave no doubt that they considered themselves Armenians, and they often acted independently. meaning, the only source that backs up claims of the person who claimed that Zakarids were "ruling independently" still considers the following subject a CONSIDERABLE CONTROVERSY not a confirmed thing. also, to get the better view about the history we need to show NOT part of it but ALL of it. This is EXACTLY what I tried to do when I added information about how Mongols conquered all of South Caucasus and called it "vilayet of Gurjistan" same as "vilayet of Georgia" due to the reason that conquered Armenian lands were conquered off GEORGIA. On which I cited a source on but on basis of nothing the author DELETED it. 4)Now, let's talk about the claim where it says that "Armenian generals Zakare and Ivane." which is backed up by 2 source of which one is not even possible to find, but the easily accessible one, which you can actually get a view on with clicking it says no such things about those people being Armenians, though quite the opposite, it does that these people were Kurdish in Origin who actually adopted Christianity and got Georgianized. this very source was cited by the person who changed the wikipedia into them being Armenian when they obviously were just Georgians of Kurdish origin.

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