User talk:KrakatoaKatie/Archive 49
 | This is an archive of past discussions with User:KrakatoaKatie. Do not edit the contents of this page. If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the current talk page. |
| Archive 45 | ← | Archive 47 | Archive 48 | Archive 49 | Archive 50 | Archive 51 | → | Archive 55 |
Administrators' newsletter - February 2017
News and updates for administrators from the past month (January 2017). This first issue is being sent out to all administrators, if you wish to keep receiving it please subscribe. Your feedback is welcomed.
Administrator changes
NinjaRobotPirate • Schwede66 • K6ka • Ealdgyth • Ferret • Cyberpower678 • Mz7 • Primefac • Dodger67
Briangotts • JeremyA • BU Rob13
Guideline and policy news
- A discussion to workshop proposals to amend the administrator inactivity policy at Wikipedia talk:Administrators has been in process since late December 2016.
- Wikipedia:Pending changes/Request for Comment 2016 closed with no consensus for implementing Pending changes level 2 with new criteria for use.
- Following an RfC, an activity requirement is now in place for bots and bot operators.
Technical news
- When performing some administrative actions the reason field briefly gave suggestions as text was typed. This change has since been reverted so that issues with the implementation can be addressed. (T34950)
- Following the latest RfC concluding that Pending Changes 2 should not be used on the English Wikipedia, an RfC closed with consensus to remove the options for using it from the page protection interface, a change which has now been made. (T156448)
- The Foundation has announced a new community health initiative to combat harassment. This should bring numerous improvements to tools for admins and CheckUsers in 2017.
Arbitration
- The Arbitration Committee released a response to the Wikimedia Foundation's statement on paid editing and outing.
Obituaries
- JohnCD (John Cameron Deas) passed away on 30 December 2016. John began editing Wikipedia seriously during 2007 and became an administrator in November 2009.
13:36, 1 February 2017 (UTC)
ACC
When you have a minute, could you look at thesetwo ACC reqs? -- Amanda (aka DQ) 22:23, 1 February 2017 (UTC)
- @Amanda: I'm sorry, but I'm not up to running CU yet. My head is not clear enough to sort through heavy technical stuff. It'll be a few more days before I'm able to return. :-( Katietalk 20:18, 2 February 2017 (UTC)
- No worries, i'll poke @DoRD: for a 2O, and if we can't figure it out, they'll be there for you when your ready. -- Amanda (aka DQ) 05:28, 3 February 2017 (UTC)
Rjensen blanking talk comments?
Hey, back in December you closed an ANI discussion with a ban on Rjensen blanking other users' comments. Do these edits[1][2][3][4][5] look like violations to you?
I'm posting this here rather than on ANI because, honestly, they look like good-faith actions (I would probably approve of blanking most of them as off-topic, were it not for his editing restriction), and also because I have a feeling that if I tried to formally report him, he or someone else would try to make it about me. I'm also not asking you to block him, because doing so without notifying him would be really slimy and make me a terrible hypocrite, but I really don't want to post on his talk page to notify him.
I'm just wondering if I should report him (or at least inform someone else so they can do it). The edits look like clear-cut violations of his editing restriction, and I really don't think ban-violations should be overlooked just because they are essentially constructive edits. (I'm currently subject to a TBAN that it would be really nice if I could violate with impunity as long as the edits themselves were good, but that would kinda defeat the purpose. The same applies to other editors.)
Hijiri 88 (聖やや) 23:45, 2 February 2017 (UTC)
This just for the record, I'd actually support a modification to his restriction to allow him to remove comments he feels are off-topic, as long as he didn't cite BLP. But I really don't want to have to put up with any more nonsense like last December, so someone else would have to propose the amendment and I'd post one short "support" !vote. Hijiri 88 (聖やや) 01:55, 3 February 2017 (UTC)
- @Hijiri88: I've made a cursory look and I'm inclined to let those go, but if you feel it's a problem you should go to ANI. These headaches come and go and I'm not comfortable yet making a blocking decision. You can point to this section if you like to help explain yourself, because I understand your ambivalence. Katietalk 00:05, 4 February 2017 (UTC)
This Month in GLAM: January 2017
| ||||||
help build band page?
Musicbyshineywater (talk) 20:20, 10 February 2017 (UTC)Can you help us build a cool page for our music band LIBRARY OF SANDS or recommend helper?
Please comment on Wikipedia talk:Drafts
The feedback request service is asking for participation in this request for comment on Wikipedia talk:Drafts. Legobot (talk) 04:27, 14 February 2017 (UTC)
Jgrantduff and Jessie Holliday
Hi Katie,
I'm contacting you as the most senior editor to have commented on user Jgrantduff.
In the fall of 2014, I left detailed criticism on the talk page for the Jessie Holliday article that Jgrantduff had created a couple of years before. He has never responded, or provided any sources. In the intervening years, I have been unable to find any evidence regarding the disputed points -- I wrote to Polam School and got no answer, for instance.
May I (regretfully) suggest that the Jessie Holliday article be deleted, as inaccurate and unfounded? I say regretfully because she was a talented portraitist, with portraits in the (London) National Gallery, and her life was tragic.
I understand that Jgrantduff is now blocked (for disruptive editing) from creating any more pages. Thank goodness!
Regards gpeterw (talk) 10:03, 17 February 2017 (UTC)
March 2017 at Women in Red
 Women's History Month worldwide online editathon Facilitated by Women in Red | ||
(To subscribe: Women in Red/English language list and Women in Red/international list. Unsubscribe: Women in Red/Opt-out list) --Rosiestep (talk) 22:53, 18 February 2017 (UTC) via MassMessaging |
March Madness 2017
G'day all, please be advised that throughout March 2017 the Military history Wikiproject is running its March Madness drive. This is a backlog drive that is focused on several key areas:
- tagging and assessing articles that fall within the project's scope
- updating the project's currently listed A-class articles to ensure their ongoing compliance with the listed criteria
- creating articles that are listed as "requested" on the project's various task force pages or other lists of missing articles.
As with past Milhist drives, there are points awarded for working on articles in the targeted areas, with barnstars being awarded at the end for different levels of achievement.
The drive is open to all Wikipedians, not just members of the Military history project, although only work on articles that fall (broadly) within the military history scope will be considered eligible. More information can be found here for those that are interested, and members can sign up as participants at that page also.
The drive starts at 00:01 UTC on 1 March and runs until 23:59 UTC on 31 March 2017, so please sign up now.
For the Milhist co-ordinators. Regards, AustralianRupert (talk) & MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 07:24, 26 February 2017 (UTC)
Administrators' newsletter – March 2017
News and updates for administrators from the past month (February 2017).
Administrator changes
- Amortias • Deckiller • BU Rob13
- Ronnotel • Islander • Chamal N • Isomorphic • Keeper76 • Lord Voldemort • Shereth • Bdesham • Pjacobi
Guideline and policy news
- A recent RfC has redefined how articles on schools are evaluated at AfD. Specifically, secondary schools are not presumed to be notable simply because they exist.
- AfDs that receive little participation should now be closed like an expired proposed deletion, following a deletion process RfC.
- Defender, HakanIST, Matiia and Sjoerddebruin are our newest stewards, following the 2017 steward elections.
- The 2017 appointees for the Ombudsman commission are Góngora, Krd, Lankiveil, Richwales and Vogone. They will serve for approximately 1 year.
Technical news
- A recent query shows that only 16% of administrators on the English Wikipedia have enabled two-factor authentication. If you haven't already enabled it please consider doing so.
- Cookie blocks should be deployed to the English Wikipedia soon. This will extend the current autoblock system by setting a cookie for each block, which will then autoblock the user after they switch accounts under a new IP.
- A bot will now automatically place a protection template on protected pages when admins forget to do so.
This Month in GLAM: February 2017
| ||||||
update
If anyone still watches this page, that is... ;-)
I'm doing much better. My headaches are nearly gone and I'm able to deal with real life, and light, and sound that's louder than the pitter-pat of little mouse feet. However, now I'm up against a wedding, and I've lost so much time to this cluster of headaches that I'm scrambling to finish things that must be finished. I anticipate being back to active CU and admin work around March 20. I have to do some traveling a couple of weeks after that, but things should be back to some semblance of normalcy.
Thanks for all your good wishes, and I'll see you soon. :-) Katietalk 00:23, 3 March 2017 (UTC)
- At least she waited until after you recovered, and it must be wonderful to feel (almost) pain-free. Good luck with everything and see you when you return. All the best.--Bbb23 (talk) 02:50, 3 March 2017 (UTC)
- A kitten for you!
:D
— xaosflux Talk 03:02, 3 March 2017 (UTC)
- I'm glad to hear you're starting to feel better, Katie. I was worried! ~ Rob13Talk 02:06, 9 March 2017 (UTC)
- Looking forward to seeing you back! Until then -- :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 02:28, 11 March 2017 (UTC)
Rachel Maddow
Something should be added to the Rachel Maddow page about the tax return controversy (https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/15/us/politics/rachel-maddow-trump-tax-return.html) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Capolitico (talk • contribs) 02:50, 16 March 2017 (UTC)
A pie for you!
|
Hope you've been well, Katie! Boomer VialHolla! We gonna ball! 04:42, 16 March 2017 (UTC) |
Greetings
Hi Katie Wilson young (talk) 13:11, 16 March 2017 (UTC)
Request to unsalt Hrvoje Miličević
Hi, how are you!
It seems you were the last to delete the page Hrvoje Miličević, it was kept getting re-created before the soccer player in question passed WP:FOOTY. I am assuming you were also the one who salted it, even though I can't tell for sure by looking at the deletion log, sorry if I'm addressing this with a wrong person.
Anyway, by now he has played in an WP:FPL and therefore passed the WP:FOOTY notability criteria, and I would like to create the page. For reference, I mocked it up in my sandbox.
Thank you very much and cheers!
sock?
clearly not a new user [6]. i think you should watch this guy. 185.24.234.107 (talk) 08:18, 17 March 2017 (UTC)
I patrolled Danielle Clode, created by blocked User:Odensalt
Hello, my apologies over the intrusion! I was just about to finish cleaning-up the aforementioned article and let the author know a few things about how to go about creating a new one, before which I found that they have been blocked via Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/Novonium.
Regardless of the author's status, I wanted to make sure that my actions here were appropriate; the subject of this article indeed passes notability (needs more, better content - of course) and so I have marked it as reviewed / patrolled.
Is that okay? Please have me posted in case I shouldn't have (or if my judgement to let this article stand was incorrect). Thanks.
TopCipher (talk) 16:18, 20 March 2017 (UTC)
- @Topcipher: It passes A7 with a credible claim of significance, so you're fine there. You didn't know it was created by a blocked user, so that's okay too. I don't believe it passes WP:PROF (I think that's the right part of GNG, or maybe WP:AUTHOR?) based on the references, so if you feel strongly enough it should probably go to AFD. Katietalk 17:39, 20 March 2017 (UTC)
- @KrakatoaKatie: Thank you for letting know; I am certain it passes WP:AUTHOR as she did indeed win the Victorian Premier's Literary Award which is presented at the Wheeler Centre from 2014. This reference should've been added in the article earlier (but since I closely work with WP:BKCRIT, I already knew of her achievements/notability) - will add it to the article now.
Thanks, again!
TopCipher (talk) 17:50, 20 March 2017 (UTC)
- @KrakatoaKatie: Thank you for letting know; I am certain it passes WP:AUTHOR as she did indeed win the Victorian Premier's Literary Award which is presented at the Wheeler Centre from 2014. This reference should've been added in the article earlier (but since I closely work with WP:BKCRIT, I already knew of her achievements/notability) - will add it to the article now.
2FA Question
Hey Katie, this is RickinBaltimore (on my work IP). I have had a rather unfortunate incident where I've had to replace my phone and lost my ability to login due to not being able to authenticate via 2FA. I've posted a comment on Phabricator, but haven't had any success in having this fixed. Any chance you might know how I can get my login working again? 144.202.134.66 (talk) 12:41, 21 March 2017 (UTC)
- (talk page watcher) Do you have the scratch codes you were given when you signed up for 2FA? --NeilN talk to me 12:43, 21 March 2017 (UTC)
- I wish I did. That's the issue, I lost that when I lost other data along with my phone (yes I know, I screwed up with that). I thought I had taken a screen cap and saved on a computer, but apparently I did not. 144.202.134.66 (talk) 12:46, 21 March 2017 (UTC)
- (talk page watcher) Failing the scratch codes, you'll need to have your identity verified for a dev to consider removing it. Check your email you used to email your two RfA nominators -- There'sNoTime (to explain) 12:50, 21 March 2017 (UTC)
- I spoke to one of my co-noms just a bit ago and they added to the Phab ticket I created. 144.202.134.66 (talk) 13:02, 21 March 2017 (UTC)
- Thank you all!! When I set 2FA up I'm printing out the codes and keeping a copy at my desk at home and locked up at work. RickinBaltimore (talk) 13:16, 21 March 2017 (UTC)
- Well, I see I'm not needed here, but set up something like 1Password on your work machine so you can have an alternate way to generate that one-time password. And now I want to know what happened to the phone. :-D Katietalk 16:10, 21 March 2017 (UTC)
- The darn thing just wouldn't power on with or with the cable and with multiple batteries. Dead as a doornail. And I didn't have the info saved on my SD card. RickinBaltimore (talk) 16:13, 21 March 2017 (UTC)
- Beats Rick with a rice noodle for not backing up his phone Katietalk 16:15, 21 March 2017 (UTC)
- The darn thing just wouldn't power on with or with the cable and with multiple batteries. Dead as a doornail. And I didn't have the info saved on my SD card. RickinBaltimore (talk) 16:13, 21 March 2017 (UTC)
- Well, I see I'm not needed here, but set up something like 1Password on your work machine so you can have an alternate way to generate that one-time password. And now I want to know what happened to the phone. :-D Katietalk 16:10, 21 March 2017 (UTC)
- Thank you all!! When I set 2FA up I'm printing out the codes and keeping a copy at my desk at home and locked up at work. RickinBaltimore (talk) 13:16, 21 March 2017 (UTC)
- I spoke to one of my co-noms just a bit ago and they added to the Phab ticket I created. 144.202.134.66 (talk) 13:02, 21 March 2017 (UTC)
- (talk page watcher) Failing the scratch codes, you'll need to have your identity verified for a dev to consider removing it. Check your email you used to email your two RfA nominators -- There'sNoTime (to explain) 12:50, 21 March 2017 (UTC)
- I wish I did. That's the issue, I lost that when I lost other data along with my phone (yes I know, I screwed up with that). I thought I had taken a screen cap and saved on a computer, but apparently I did not. 144.202.134.66 (talk) 12:46, 21 March 2017 (UTC)
April events at Women in Red
| Welcome to Women in Red's | ||
  .png)
|
(To subscribe: Women in Red/English language list and Women in Red/international list. Unsubscribe: Women in Red/Opt-out list) ----Rosiestep (talk) 18:41, 24 March 2017 (UTC) via MassMessaging
A recurring problem
Hi Katie,
I see a recurrent block evading and abusing multiple accounts regarding user "Crovata", who was blocked by @Bbb23: indefinetly after your 2 months block. (Later, the user admitted he deliberatly created the sockpuppet account "Joycewood" and again in his unblock request he gives such explanations and excuses even for the earlier cases that finally we conclude that nothing happened as it happened and he would be an innocent victim of a possible Wikipedia conspiracy). Later, his unblock request was again denied. Today, in the page where he was blocked because of his malicious activity a I've just met with this edit: ([7]), that is the exact reinstatement of the non-consensused addition he pushed and was blocked for by you. What is comic, the current edit was commited by a new user called "Hrovata", so it is more than obvious this account is again the sockpuppet of "Crovata". So please make the proper investigation and action according to the rules, I consider this "amazing"...Thank You(KIENGIR (talk) 10:20, 26 March 2017 (UTC))
- @KIENGIR: Hrovata (talk · contribs · count) is not a sock of Crovata. There have been a series of impersonator accounts (I've already blocked several), and this is one more.--Bbb23 (talk) 14:51, 26 March 2017 (UTC)
- @Bbb23:, well thanks for the info, it seems these cases became so complicated that even other editors try to impersonate and compromise other accounts, even if the other account is already blocked for sockpuppetry also. Maybe they wish to increase each other's punishment? Thrilling!(KIENGIR (talk) 15:40, 26 March 2017 (UTC))
Nomination of Salted bomb for deletion
A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Salted bomb is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.
The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Salted bomb until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.
Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article. Blue Rasberry (talk) 20:02, 27 March 2017 (UTC)
Please comment on Wikipedia:Village pump (proposals)
The feedback request service is asking for participation in this request for comment on Wikipedia:Village pump (proposals). Legobot (talk) 04:28, 31 March 2017 (UTC)
2 more socks of Novonium?
Hi Katie, You might like to have a look at Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/Novonium, as you blocked the previous sockpuppet! PamD 21:36, 31 March 2017 (UTC)
Main Page
Hey, you're an admin, right? Well, I figured I'd alert you about a situation on the Did you Know section on the main page. I'd estimate that about ~2 million people know that thrust into a difficult situation, Horney Dicks failed to satisfy. I suspect this as vandalism, though it's not listed on the edit history. It's location is the last did you know on the did you know section. Greasemann (talk) 01:05, 1 April 2017 (UTC)Greasemann
- @Greasemann: What's the date today? Or tomorrow if you're in North America? --NeilN talk to me 01:12, 1 April 2017 (UTC)
- It's the 31, 8:24pm. Greasemann (talk) 01:25, 1 April 2017 (UTC)Greasemann
- @Greasemann: You're in North America. What is it tomorrow? --NeilN talk to me 01:29, 1 April 2017 (UTC)
- It's the 31, 8:24pm. Greasemann (talk) 01:25, 1 April 2017 (UTC)Greasemann
Administrators' newsletter – April 2017
News and updates for administrators from the past month (March 2017).
Administrator changes
- TheDJ
- Xnuala • CJ • Oldelpaso • Berean Hunter • Jimbo Wales • Andrew c • Karanacs • Modemac • Scott
Guideline and policy news
- Following a discussion on the backlog of unpatrolled files, consensus was found to create a new user right for autopatrolling file uploads. Implementation progress can be tracked on Phabricator.
- The BLPPROD grandfather clause, which stated that unreferenced biographies of living persons were only eligible for proposed deletion if they were created after March 18, 2010, has been removed following an RfC.
- An RfC has closed with consensus to allow proposed deletion of files. The implementation process is ongoing.
- After an unsuccessful proposal to automatically grant IP block exemption, consensus was found to relax the criteria for granting the user right from needing it to wanting it.
Technical news
- After a recent RfC, moved pages will soon be featured in a queue similar to Special:NewPagesFeed and require patrolling. Moves by administrators, page movers, and autopatrolled editors will be automatically marked as patrolled.
- Cookie blocks have been deployed. This extends the current autoblock system by setting a cookie for each block, which will then autoblock the user if they switch accounts, even under a new IP.
Books and Bytes - Issue 21
The Wikipedia Library
Books & Bytes
Issue 21, January-March 2017
by Nikkimaria (talk · contribs), Ocaasi (talk · contribs), UY Scuti (talk · contribs), Samwalton9 (talk · contribs), Sadads (talk · contribs)
- #1lib1ref 2017
- Wikipedia Library User Group
- Wikipedia + Libraries at Wikimedia Conference 2017
- Spotlight: Library Card Platform
Sent by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 22:54, 6 April 2017 (UTC)
Talkback
Message added 18:27, 8 April 2017 (UTC). You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.
Mail call
It may take a few minutes from the time the email is sent for it to show up in your inbox. You can at any time by removing the {{You've got mail}} or {{ygm}} template.
This Month in GLAM: March 2017
| ||||||
This Month in GLAM: March 2017
| ||||||
Please comment on Wikipedia talk:WikiProject College football
The feedback request service is asking for participation in this request for comment on Wikipedia talk:WikiProject College football. Legobot (talk) 04:23, 16 April 2017 (UTC)
Protection Suggestion
Hello KK and welcome back! Thanks for adding a protection at the Inspector George Gently article. As someone who has been dealing with that IP editor for several weeks now I just want to let you know my perspective on "Pending changes" in this specific situation. That IP makes the same edit almost every day (they do seem to take weekends off) so - while PC won't allow the unsourced info to be seen - other editors will still have to reject the edit each day. In other words that doesn't save us any time or effort. I find PC protection to be beneficial when lots of editors are making dubious additions/deletions to an article but that isn't the case here. If this editor would ever discuss things on the articles talk page things might be different but they never have. Please don't get me wrong I am not asking you to change what you've done. I'm just posting this as food for thought. Also, as a person afflicted with long-term editcountitis this will always add an "edit-a-day" to my running total :-) though others may not feel the same way. Thanks for your time and cheers. MarnetteD|Talk 20:44, 13 April 2017 (UTC)
- @MarnetteD: Hi! Hope you've been well! I can overlay semi on the PC if you want, but I think long-term PC is the way to go here. Remember that there are only 5,000 or so logged-in users who are editing at any one time, and they're the only ones who can see unreviewed edits. The IP himself can't see it. I told someone many moons ago that I envision those guys sitting in their darkened bedrooms in their underwear screaming, "WHY CAN'T I SEE MY VANDALIZMS?!?" So, we can also use it, in this instance, to try and force discussion. It doesn't look like he's tried to edit it since I put PC on, so there's that. :-) Katietalk 22:42, 16 April 2017 (UTC)
- Thanks for letting me know you thoughts KK. As you note the person hasn't hit the article since my post here so the PC is fine. I'll let you know if anything changes. Cheers and have a great week. MarnetteD|Talk 23:43, 16 April 2017 (UTC)
Clarification Suggestion
Hi again. I saw your close at Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/CensoredScribe and I noticed that you didn't comment on whether the editor was CensorScribe or not. You did mention the other possible sockmaster but not CS. It might be worth adding any info about them but if it is archived by the time you see this I don't know if anything can be added. MarnetteD|Talk 17:41, 17 April 2017 (UTC)
- @MarnetteD: I can't tell, because CensoredScribe and their socks are stale, and my comment said that. CheckUser only looks back 90 days. The only thing I could see is that the reported account is not related to Musicbyac, and it isn't even close. Hope that helps. Katietalk 17:50, 17 April 2017 (UTC)
- Ah you wrote SPI's but my eyes read IPs. D'oh. In the immortal words of Emily Litella "Never mind" Cheers. MarnetteD|Talk 17:54, 17 April 2017 (UTC)
- Could you please consider re-opening the case for behavioral evaluation, or at least maybe asking for a second opinion from another CU? I get what the results said, but pretty much everything about this user, from the re-creation of the deleted category, to their sandbox, suggests it's a sock of Musicbyac/CensoredScribe/TreCoolGuy/whoever you want to call it. That's what these sockpuppets do, every time, and I just can't accept that this isn't a returning user. 18:23, 17 April 2017 (UTC) (posted by User:Sro23)
- @Bbb23: Would you take a look? I agree that the behavior is compelling, but the technical evidence was pretty clear to me. CS and TreCoolGuy are way stale so one of them could be back. Katietalk 19:14, 18 April 2017 (UTC)
- Based on the history, it sounds like we're going in circles. I also think Ponyo knows more about this than any other CU (I have some knowledge). However, she's on an extended break, so within the limits of what I can do, I'll look.--Bbb23 (talk) 20:48, 18 April 2017 (UTC)
- I blocked 12345zippp (talk · contribs · count) as a sock of TreCoolGuy (talk · contribs · count). There's little doubt in my mind that CensoredScribe is a different master from the other two. However, I have one question about Musicbyac and TreCoolGuy. Is there any pattern as to what time of year the socks edit? It's a bit of a long shot, but I'm curious. (While I was at it, I blocked Osmosis992 (talk · contribs · count) as a sock of Musicbyac.)--Bbb23 (talk) 21:14, 18 April 2017 (UTC)
- @Bbb23: and Katie - I'm back! I was gone much longer than anticipated, but am certainly refreshed from my break. I have a subpage in my userspace on the CU Wiki with data on CensoredScribe. It will be somewhat out of date now but may be helpful in discerning between sock groups if there is behavioural overlap.--Jezebel's Ponyobons mots 16:11, 20 April 2017 (UTC)
- I blocked 12345zippp (talk · contribs · count) as a sock of TreCoolGuy (talk · contribs · count). There's little doubt in my mind that CensoredScribe is a different master from the other two. However, I have one question about Musicbyac and TreCoolGuy. Is there any pattern as to what time of year the socks edit? It's a bit of a long shot, but I'm curious. (While I was at it, I blocked Osmosis992 (talk · contribs · count) as a sock of Musicbyac.)--Bbb23 (talk) 21:14, 18 April 2017 (UTC)
- Based on the history, it sounds like we're going in circles. I also think Ponyo knows more about this than any other CU (I have some knowledge). However, she's on an extended break, so within the limits of what I can do, I'll look.--Bbb23 (talk) 20:48, 18 April 2017 (UTC)
- @Bbb23: Would you take a look? I agree that the behavior is compelling, but the technical evidence was pretty clear to me. CS and TreCoolGuy are way stale so one of them could be back. Katietalk 19:14, 18 April 2017 (UTC)