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Nominations now open for "Military historian of the year" and "Military history newcomer of the year" awards
Nominations for our annual Military historian of the year and Military history newcomer of the year awards are open until 23:59 (GMT) on 15 December 2018. Why don't you nominate the editors who you believe have made a real difference to the project in 2018? MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 02:26, 3 December 2018 (UTC)
Administrators' newsletter – December 2018
News and updates for administrators from the past month (November 2018).
Administrator changes
Al Ameer son • Randykitty • Spartaz
Boson • Daniel J. Leivick • Efe • Esanchez7587 • Fred Bauder • Garzo • Martijn Hoekstra • Orangemike
Interface administrator changes
Guideline and policy news
- Following a request for comment, the Mediation Committee is now closed and will no longer be accepting case requests.
- A request for comment is in progress to determine whether members of the Bot Approvals Group should satisfy activity requirements in order to remain in that role.
- A request for comment is in progress regarding whether to change the administrator inactivity policy, such that administrators "who have made no logged administrative actions for at least 12 months may be desysopped". Currently, the policy states that administrators "who have made neither edits nor administrative actions for at least 12 months may be desysopped".
- A proposal has been made to temporarily restrict editing of the Main Page to interface administrators in order to mitigate the impact of compromised accounts.
Technical news
- Administrators and bureaucrats can no longer unblock themselves unless they placed the block initially. This change has been implemented globally. See also this ongoing village pump discussion (permalink).
- To complement the aforementioned change, blocked administrators will soon have the ability to block the administrator that placed their block to mitigate the possibility of a compromised administrator account blocking all other active administrators.
- Since deployment of Partial blocks on Test Wikipedia, several bugs were identified. Most of them are now fixed. Administrators are encouraged to test the new deployment and report new bugs on Phabricator or leave feedback on the Project's talk page. You can request administrator access on the Test Wiki here.
Arbitration
- Voting in the 2018 Arbitration Committee Elections is open to eligible editors until Monday 23:59, 3 December 2018. Please review the candidates and, if you wish to do so, submit your choices on the voting page.
Miscellaneous
- In late November, an attacker compromised multiple accounts, including at least four administrator accounts, and used them to vandalize Wikipedia. If you have ever used your current password on any other website, you should change it immediately. Sharing the same password across multiple websites makes your account vulnerable, especially if your password was used on a website that suffered a data breach. As these incidents have shown, these concerns are not pure fantasies.
- Wikipedia policy requires administrators to have strong passwords. To further reinforce security, administrators should also consider enabling two-factor authentication. A committed identity can be used to verify that you are the true account owner in the event that your account is compromised and/or you are unable to log in.
Obituaries
- Shock Brigade Harvester Boris (Raymond Arritt) passed away on 14 November 2018. Boris joined Wikipedia as Raymond arritt on 8 May 2006 and was an administrator from 30 July 2007 to 2 June 2008.
Private evidence
Hi.
If there's anything at all you can say about the nature of the private evidence you received from Beal4, I think it would be wise to share it with the community. Obviously, if there is nothing you can say without violating a confidence or the editor's privacy, I certainly understand.
Also, have the rest of the Committee seen the evidence you cite?
Thanks, Beyond My Ken (talk) 05:48, 5 December 2018 (UTC)
- BTW, I wasn't aware of your health issues. I hope everything works out for the best. Beyond My Ken (talk) 05:49, 5 December 2018 (UTC)
- @Beyond My Ken: Thanks for the good wishes. There are too many private details for it to be released. I can say that Jytdog was not truthful about his behavior, and that the entire committee has seen the evidence. Katietalk 11:15, 5 December 2018 (UTC)
- OK, thanks for the response, I appreciate it. Beyond My Ken (talk) 11:34, 5 December 2018 (UTC)
- @Beyond My Ken: Thanks for the good wishes. There are too many private details for it to be released. I can say that Jytdog was not truthful about his behavior, and that the entire committee has seen the evidence. Katietalk 11:15, 5 December 2018 (UTC)
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You seem to have forgotten one
6 arbs elected, only five welcomed? Poor User:Mkdw :-) Fram (talk) 13:18, 17 December 2018 (UTC)
- This is like when you fly somewhere and the captain "welcomes" you. ~ Amory (u • t • c) 14:56, 17 December 2018 (UTC)
. Mkdw talk 17:16, 17 December 2018 (UTC)
Merry Merry
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| Hello KK, Early in A Child's Christmas in Wales the young Dylan and his friend Jim Prothero witness smoke pouring from Jim's home. After the conflagration has been extinguished Dylan writes that My thanks to you for your efforts to keep the 'pedia readable in case the firemen chose one of our articles :-) Best wishes to you and yours and happy editing in 2019. MarnetteD|Talk 22:56, 18 December 2018 (UTC) |
- There are also a few fun mentions of knitted gifts later in the story :-) Cheers. MarnetteD|Talk 22:56, 18 December 2018 (UTC)
Books & Bytes, Issue 31
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Happy New Year, KrakatoaKatie!
KrakatoaKatie,
Have a prosperous, productive and enjoyable New Year, and thanks for your contributions to Wikipedia.
Hhkohh (talk) 02:30, 1 January 2019 (UTC)
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Welcome to the 2019 WikiCup!
Hello and Happy New Year!
Welcome to the 2019 WikiCup, the competition begins today. If you have already joined, your submission page can be found here. If you have not yet signed up, you can add your name here and we will set up your submissions page. One important rule to remember is that only content on which you have completed significant work during 2019, and which you have nominated this year, is eligible for points in the competition, the judges will be checking! Any questions should be directed to one of the judges, or left on Wikipedia talk:WikiCup. Signups will close at the end of January, and the first round will end on 26 February; the 64 highest scorers at that time will make it to round 2. Good luck! The judges for the WikiCup are Sturmvogel 66 (talk · contribs · email), Godot13 (talk · contribs · email), Vanamonde93 (talk · contribs · email) and Cwmhiraeth (talk · contribs · email). MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 11:14, 1 January 2019 (UTC)
Administrators' newsletter – January 2019
News and updates for administrators from the past month (December 2018).
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Guideline and policy news
- There are a number of new or changed speedy deletion criteria, each previously part of WP:CSD#G6:
- G14 (new): Disambiguation pages that disambiguate only zero or one existing pages are now covered under the new G14 criterion (discussion). This is {{db-disambig}}; the text is unchanged and candidates may be found in Category:Candidates for speedy deletion as unnecessary disambiguation pages.
- R4 (new): Redirects in the file namespace (and no file links) that have the same name as a file or redirect at Commons are now covered under the new R4 criterion (discussion). This is {{db-redircom}}; the text is unchanged.
- G13 (expanded): Userspace drafts containing only the default Article Wizard text are now covered under G13 along with other drafts (discussion). Such blank drafts are now eligible after six months rather than one year, and taggers continue to use {{db-blankdraft}}.
- The Wikimedia Foundation now requires all interface administrators to enable two-factor authentication.
- Members of the Bot Approvals Group (BAG) are now subject to an activity requirement. After two years without any bot-related activity (e.g. operating a bot, posting on a bot-related talk page), BAG members will be retired from BAG following a one-week notice.
Technical news
- Starting on December 13, the Wikimedia Foundation security team implemented new password policy and requirements. Privileged accounts (administrators, bureaucrats, checkusers, oversighters, interface administrators, bots, edit filter managers/helpers, template editors, et al.) must have a password at least 10 characters in length. All accounts must have a password:
- At least 8 characters in length
- Not in the 100,000 most popular passwords (defined by the Password Blacklist library)
- Different from their username
- User accounts not meeting these requirements will be prompted to update their password accordingly. More information is available on MediaWiki.org.
- Blocked administrators may now block the administrator that blocked them. This was done to mitigate the possibility that a compromised administrator account would block all other active administrators, complementing the removal of the ability to unblock oneself outside of self-imposed blocks. A request for comment is currently in progress to determine whether the blocking policy should be updated regarding this change.
- {{Copyvio-revdel}} now has a link to open the history with the RevDel checkboxes already filled in.
Arbitration
- Following the 2018 Arbitration Committee elections, the following editors have been appointed to the Arbitration Committee: AGK, Courcelles, GorillaWarfare, Joe Roe, Mkdw, SilkTork.
Miscellaneous
- Accounts continue to be compromised on a regular basis. Evidence shows this is entirely due to the accounts having the same password that was used on another website that suffered a data breach. If you have ever used your current password on any other website, you should change it immediately.
- Around 22% of admins have enabled two-factor authentication, up from 20% in June 2018. If you haven't already enabled it, please consider doing so. Regardless of whether you use 2FA, please practice appropriate account security by ensuring your password is secure and unique to Wikimedia.
Hi - I wonder
Please, please accept what I wish to say as being well intentioned and none provocative. I also hope that you are not currently suffering from your openly disclosed medical condition with which you have my complete sympathy; I understand from first hand experience the terrible impact it has.
I wondered (enough to be concerned) whether your remarks in the SPI Arbcom case are really consistent with your candidate statement "I try very hard to be fair and flexible in all things and, above all, to be kind."
All I see over there is a lot of macho, passive-aggressive, colleague defending, claimant baiting. Generally unsympathetic remarks, but typical of the contributors so far, I regret to say. I was surprised to see you weighing in on a similar basis. No need to respond if you prefer not to. Leaky Caldron 21:05, 3 January 2019 (UTC)
- @Leaky caldron: I have no problem responding. So, contributor files SPI, doesn't get the result he wants and doesn't like the boomerang, comes to CU's talk page and drops a ton of links to policies the CU is most certainly well aware of, doesn't like that the CU chooses to do something else rather than respond, then jumps up and down on the most watched page on the site crying 'poor me, I've been bullied' while pointing out the very thing he wants to go away, at the top of his lungs. We get CU block appeals, and trust me, I do not always take the CU's side. I was probably the lead on getting Ms Sarah Welch unblocked. I've voted twice to desysop and there are private issues that I can't discuss in which I'm very hard on the admin involved. That doesn't mean, however, that I'm not going to get annoyed at appeals like this one. In the questions I answered during the election, I also said that I agree with Opabinia (mostly) about civility. This is a good parallel, because this filer wants an apology for something that doesn't warrant one, and he's willing to drag a CU into a case to try and get it. Yes, we need to be kind to one another (me included). Yes, we need to be civil. But there is a line, and when Bbb23 chose to be silent rather than be uncivil, he gets dragged into a case? CU or not, that irks me, and I felt my language was warranted. (Thanks for your good wishes about my health.) Katietalk 22:30, 3 January 2019 (UTC)
- Thanks. Surely the response to the filer that they looked more like a sock (paraphrase) was unnecessarily provocative? It undermines good faith. I am not saying that the filer may not be playing a game and deliberating trying to provoke a response. Maybe they are thin skinned or ultra sensitive to criticism. But was it really necessary to respond with that sort of accusation? It is not the first time from this CU. Anyway, I appreciate your considered reply! Leaky Caldron 22:50, 3 January 2019 (UTC)
You may wish to revoke talk page access.--Cahk (talk) 09:47, 7 January 2019 (UTC)
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Die Zeit, die Tag und Jahre macht
Not too late, I hope ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:17, 13 January 2019 (UTC)
Why was blocked
HEllo, Im from Brazil, and I saw sad error about [[[Tropicalia]] where said Carmem Miranda is considered a forerunner of the movement. Is so wrong, cause in ref. used said: "Carmen Miranda, 'the notable', ended up exposing to the world a caricature and stereotyped vision of Brazil. At the height of the good-neighborly policy between the United States and South America. And I was fix it. Is inverse of Tropicalia. Carmem Miranda is not movement tropicalia.
Can I unbloked? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Anhaabaete (talk • contribs) 22:10, 15 January 2019 (UTC)
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Administrators' newsletter – February 2019
News and updates for administrators from the past month (January 2019).
Administrator changes
Interface administrator changes
Guideline and policy news
- A request for comment is currently open to reevaluate the activity requirements for administrators.
- Administrators who are blocked have the technical ability to block the administrator who blocked their own account. A recent request for comment has amended the blocking policy to clarify that this ability should only be used in exceptional circumstances, such as account compromises, where there is a clear and immediate need.
- A request for comment closed with a consensus in favor of deprecating The Sun as a permissible reference, and creating an edit filter to warn users who attempt to cite it.
Technical news
- A discussion regarding an overhaul of the format and appearance of Wikipedia:Requests for page protection is in progress (permalink). The proposed changes will make it easier to create requests for those who are not using Twinkle. The workflow for administrators at this venue will largely be unchanged. Additionally, there are plans to archive requests similar to how it is done at WP:PERM, where historical records are kept so that prior requests can more easily be searched for.
Miscellaneous
- Voting in the 2019 Steward elections will begin on 08 February 2019, 14:00 (UTC) and end on 28 February 2019, 13:59 (UTC). The confirmation process of current stewards is being held in parallel. You can automatically check your eligibility to vote.
- A new IRC bot is available that allows you to subscribe to notifications when specific filters are tripped. This requires that your IRC handle be identified.
GS
I think you're wrong.
The stupidly high standards at RfA are such that ten years of unblemished editing would still end in an unsuccessful RfA.
If you feel that way, why not consider probation, like I've suggested on the talk page. --Dweller (talk) Become old fashioned! 07:22, 5 February 2019 (UTC)
- @Dweller: Do you have language? I could consider something like that if the remedy covered no blocking or rollback, but that's half of the tool set. Couldn't he do as much damage by simply protecting pages in lieu of blocking? (Not saying he would, just playing devil's advocate here.) Katietalk 14:27, 5 February 2019 (UTC)
- I make no pretences at lawyerly Arbcommy expertise, but something along the lines of adminship is on probation for x months, at the end of which if there has been no further Arbcom action [the sanction is automatically voided] / [the sanction will be voided on request]
- On reflection, my previous post here reads harsher than I intended. Apologies for that. --Dweller (talk) Become old fashioned! 16:26, 5 February 2019 (UTC)
- No big deal about your language – you can call me whatever you like, just don't call me late for lunch. (I'll be here all week. Tip your waitpersons generously.)
- The problem with probation is in how you define what a violation of that probation is. Is he on probation for blocking, or general decorum with the newbies, or the whole toolbox plus behavior? I can't make any promises, but I'll sound it out informally and see if there's enough support to propose it. The devil is in the details, though. Katietalk 04:13, 6 February 2019 (UTC)
- I'm not so much discussing GS as making a meta suggestion for all cases where desysop is a possibility. The current Arbcom toolkit when addressing problematic admins is (I think) desysop - castigate - warn. To my mind the gap is too big between the first two options. It surely must be that sometimes you err and opt the wrong side of that huge divide, in either direction. Plugging that gap would give you and the community assurance that you've neither desysopped inappropriately, nor are leaving potential rogue admins out there until the drama and timesink of another full case.
- In terms of the question about what a violation is, I think we could leave that undefined, for Arbcom to consider at the time. You handle much more difficult things routinely. And to my mind Arbcom ties itself in knots the most when you try to be too specific with things you really should not be so specific about (TRM's sanctions come to mind). --Dweller (talk) Become old fashioned! 10:33, 6 February 2019 (UTC)
- I suggested something similar on the page. Less a probation and more a suspension of the tools. Either way, I would suggest that concerns you express above could be addressed by making the probation more akin to the temporary grants of PERMS where it is revisited after a fixed period of time. In that way the further track record of GS could be examined for whether he has continued to do revert incorrectly, block incorrectly, bite newcomers, or refuse to hear constructive feedback about his use of those or other tools/actions. Best wishes, Barkeep49 (talk) 23:46, 6 February 2019 (UTC)
- In case people are trying to find a remedy short of desysopping, there was such a decision back in WP:Requests for arbitration/Macedonia 2. An admin was desysopped for three months, with the provision they would automatically regain the tools after that time. The advantage of a fixed-period desysop is that it requires no ongoing supervision by anyone, and it ends automatically. EdJohnston (talk) 03:19, 7 February 2019 (UTC)
- That seems punitive in a way that I would not support. I would support some measure that says "we need a bit more assurance through actions than we can possibly see during the time of this case that you've mended your ways because what you did before was unacceptable" Of course it doesn't matter what I would support it matters what ArbCom would support and despite some pretty clear Findings of Fact they do not seem to have found the right remedy yet and so yes I am hoping there is "another way" than admonishment or desysopping.Best wishes, Barkeep49 (talk) 04:58, 7 February 2019 (UTC)
- In case people are trying to find a remedy short of desysopping, there was such a decision back in WP:Requests for arbitration/Macedonia 2. An admin was desysopped for three months, with the provision they would automatically regain the tools after that time. The advantage of a fixed-period desysop is that it requires no ongoing supervision by anyone, and it ends automatically. EdJohnston (talk) 03:19, 7 February 2019 (UTC)
- I suggested something similar on the page. Less a probation and more a suspension of the tools. Either way, I would suggest that concerns you express above could be addressed by making the probation more akin to the temporary grants of PERMS where it is revisited after a fixed period of time. In that way the further track record of GS could be examined for whether he has continued to do revert incorrectly, block incorrectly, bite newcomers, or refuse to hear constructive feedback about his use of those or other tools/actions. Best wishes, Barkeep49 (talk) 23:46, 6 February 2019 (UTC)
We've discussed it, and Newyorkbrad is going to work up a proposal. You should see it sometime today, maybe early tomorrow. Thanks to everyone for their input. :-) Katietalk 12:57, 7 February 2019 (UTC)
Blocked webhost
Appears we have a troll using Special:Contributions/54.215.0.0/16 which you blocked as a webhost. Note the wonderful edit summary at User talk:54.215.213.243. Home Lander (talk) 16:44, 8 February 2019 (UTC)
- @Home Lander: Revoked TPA. Thanks. :-) Katietalk 16:47, 8 February 2019 (UTC)
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