Marcus Cyron

Bobsleigh, luge, and skeleton tracks

I was looking on the German version of Wikipedia and noticed that there was a listing of the bobsleigh, luge, and skeleton tracks (shown as http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liste_der_Rennrodel-_und_Bobbahnen). I am planning on creating a list of tracks for this on the English version, but I have a question for you. Do you want to include the natural tracks that are currently used (though they are mainly in luge) on this list? Please advise on my user talk page. Thanks. Chris (talk) 20:12, 28 November 2007 (UTC)

I created the English version of this article back in January. I also started on each of the tracks, earning nine DYKs so far (10th if Lillehammer get approved.). I will also do the former tracks no longer at the Winter Olympics on the page as well. Right now I am looking at the natural luge tracks as a separate page with a listing which should more than suffice. There is an anonymous IP who is stating that SV Dynamo used Altenberg as training for this, but the link shown is for biathlon and not bobsleigh. You may want to have a look at this. Chris (talk) 21:27, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

Oh. I didn't realize your first quastion, sorry. Artificial and natural tracks are totally different, so we decided in german WP to seperate such lists. But there are some tracks who don't have or had a cooling. Actually it is only Saint Moritz. Now the last and only track who must build every year new. But these are not really natural tracks made for Natural Luge or Natural Bobsleed Events in the modern meaning of this word. There are much more Natural tracks world wide. They will be used for an other kind of Luge sport. The former olympic tracks are more like Saint Moritz. A modern Natural Track is build in a very other way. You understand a little bit german I see on yout User page. So you maybe try to read the article de:Naturbahnrodeln. There I write something about the technics. Maybe I found someone who can translate it in english, but my english isn't good enough for writing articles. Our list at the german WP has growing a bit in a longer discussion. Actually I believe we must have all relevant tracks there. The tracks with grey color are tracks with colling, white is without cooling and the tracks in light red are not longer existing. The olympic runs because they never were made fore eternity before the 1970th. Ofcourse there are made much more tracks in the times before the 1970th, but these tracks are for luge and bobtrack, who isn't really to compare with our modern sport. This was between the actual versions of the sports and the in the 1970th new created natural track sports. I hope I understand your questions correct and had answered to all. If not - please ask again. And I hope, I could help. Marcus Cyron (talk) 18:35, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

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Guten Tag, lieber Kollege. Ich habe mir die Freiheit genommen, den englischen Text auf deiner Userpage zu korrigieren und zu aktualisieren. Da es aber sicher schlechte Form ist, anderen auf der Userpage herumzupfuschen, ist meine Version hier zu lesen:

I usually contribute to the German language Wikipedia (see my user page there), but occasionally I work here (I apologise that my English is not the best). On English wikipedia, I mostly work for "interwikification" purposes. I rarely try to write long texts (articles) here, because I'm not sure whether it wouldn't cause more work for someone else rewriting them than it would take me to contribute in the first place. Also, I have more than enough to do on de:WP. There, I'm very active as an admin and author, having started nearly 2,000 articles (including some featured and good ones), mainly on topics to do with archaeology, history or sports. My German edit count stands at nearly 70,000.

Stell sie ein oder lösch sie, ganz nach Bedarf oder Belieben. Gruß aus Athen, athinaios (talk) 18:36, 16 December 2007 (UTC)

Oh, danke - ich bin doch nicht doof, klar nehme ich das :). Marcus Cyron (talk) 19:32, 16 December 2007 (UTC)

Das freut mich. Gern geschehen! athinaios (talk) 21:20, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

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I did notice regarding the Bundesarchiv on a lot of German sportspeople. I did download the images regarding them to their respective biographies. My only bugaboo was that there were no canoe-kayak people in there like Frank Fischer, Birgit Fischer, Rüdiger Helm, Jörg Schmidt, Olaf Heukrodt, and Anke Nothnagel. When I looked at it about seven weeks ago, I thought this is a gold mine!. Thanks for reminding me though. Chris (talk) 02:43, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

Yes, now when you say it, I see it to. But there are some other sports without images. We must take what we get ;). Maybe the next time. It's possible, we getting more from there or other archives. The german chapter now has a man for such things. Marcus Cyron (talk) 13:09, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

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Or, perhaps rather than insulting me (WP:CIVIL), you could help by translating relevant parts of the significantly longer German language article on him so we could have more substantial content. matt91486 (talk) 20:18, 15 February 2010 (UTC)

I thought, here is the US-system of free speach? And no, I don't have the time. I write articles. Articles abaout a sportsperson should represent the whole carrier. And it's really easy because of this site. Since years I write german language articles (so as example more than 700 biathletes until today). I know, that only to write some Informations don't give a usefull article. My articles of "minor" biathletes mostly much bigger than articles of other authors about Olympic Gold medailists. I don't write this because I want to show how great I am, no I write this because the articles have to show respect and should really give the readers Informations. And I don't see, why I should do the work only that you can have an big count of new created articles. It's so frustrating. Maybe the english language Wikipedia is the biggest. But with so much articles who don't should be called articles. A mass-production without any sense for the theme. My opinion ist - do it right or let it be. Write better one good article than 5 of the crap. Marcus Cyron (talk) 20:37, 15 February 2010 (UTC)

Writing substantive articles is certainly a laudable end goal, but there is nothing wrong with creating stubs as progress points along the way. I used what information I have. I don't do anything for a count of created articles. I don't even keep track myself. Even if I did, I'm not sure how that would be any different than your personal tracking of your edit count. Regardless, that doesn't matter. I understand that a longer article would be preferable, but I've created an article with what information I could quickly find when I looked him up during the event yesterday and saw he didn't have any article. I hope that in the future someone with greater knowledge of the subject and/or the Slovak language can contribute further. If you don't agree with that and prefer to write long articles on your own accord, that's fine - but there is no need to be have antagonistically when I have perfectly helpful intentions. Freedom of speech means you can say things, of course, but it doesn't mean you should be rude. matt91486 (talk) 21:01, 15 February 2010 (UTC)

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Marcus, your criticisms is very much appreciated. If you can find reliable references, you are more than welcomed to expand the article. If you provide me some, I will do it myself.Philipmj24 (talk) 23:11, 19 February 2010 (UTC)

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Many thanks, Marcus, for your comments about my translations of your "black-figure pottery" and "Pergamon Altar." It was a pleasure to tackle them, as I really admire how neutrally, thoroughly, economically, and well-structured you present such material. If you have any other articles you would like to have translated into English, let me know and I will have a look. With best regards, Remotelysensed (talk) 08:15, 15 June 2010 (UTC)

Thanks!

Many thanks, Marcus, for your comments about my translations of your "black-figure pottery" and "Pergamon Altar." It was a pleasure to tackle them, as I really admire how neutrally, thoroughly, and economically, you present such material, not to mention how well-structured it is. If you have any other articles you would like to have translated into English, let me know and I will have a look. With best regards, Remotelysensed (talk) 08:18, 15 June 2010 (UTC)

I take you by the word by time ;). Marcus Cyron (talk) 11:27, 15 June 2010 (UTC)

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Fascinating. A troll writes his pulp - and the only thing you can write here is this. Oh my... Marcus Cyron (talk) 22:14, 8 August 2012 (UTC)

I think that you made a mistake. It was not Marcus who used German but Filliou. Cheers, —DerHexer (Talk) 22:32, 8 August 2012 (UTC)

Really? You ever hear the expression, "don't feed the trolls"? He somehow signed your name to this post?-->Oh, danke - ich bin doch nicht doof, klar nehme ich das :). Marcus Cyron (talk) 19:32, 16 December 2007 (UTC)....that sure looks like you playing the trolls game to me. Sorry to bug you. I am done. Gtwfan52 (talk) 00:11, 9 August 2012 (UTC)

Excuse me? You're mentioning here a discussion from 2007, almost five years ago! A hint now is not very useful if Marcus hasn't used German recently. Further, „Oh, danke - ich bin doch nicht doof, klar nehme ich das“ means “Oh, thank you so much—I couldn't be so stupid not to accept that!” while “that” refers to “the improvement of my English on my user page” what athinaios exactly did. Marcus just thanked a helpful person, who improved his English, in the same language this person also has used. So imo, it definitely was a no-brainer to use any other language than English to be thankful because no one else would have been involved in this discussion anyway. Further, Wikipedia:Talk page guidelines recommends other things than your template does (which obviously should be improved …): Use English: No matter to whom you address a comment, or where, it is preferred that you use English on English Wikipedia talk pages. This is so that comments may be comprehensible to the community at large. If the use of another language is unavoidable, try to also provide a translation of the comments. If you are requested to do so and cannot, you should either find a third party to translate or to contact a translator through the Wikipedia:Embassy. As explained, there was no need to use English here and there was and still is no policy that disallows users to use other languages than English as your template demands (which would be ridiculous on such an international project as the English Wikipedia anyway). As you can also see, Marcus even used English in his reverts of this user Filliou, on WP:AIV, and other pages before. Further, he was never requested before to translate this response to athinaios—not even by you. If you had done so, I'm entirely sure that he would have translated these lines for you as I did now. Assuming good faith for all parties involved should imo always be the first solution. Since you obviously misunderstood the situation and the German language accidentally, it's easy to assume good faith for your comment too. So have a nice day! Cheers, —DerHexer (Talk) 11:07, 9 August 2012 (UTC)

Sorry - but I can't answer something friendly to this - so I better say nothing. DerHexer told everything what was need to say. Only one thing: better not doing this encyclopedia thing, if you can do such things... Marcus Cyron (talk) 12:04, 9 August 2012 (UTC)

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Das ist doch was für Sie, Herr Cyron: Da ich wikipedia nicht loswerde und dieser Komödienstadl schon ein wenig "Suchtcharakter" verursacht, meine Kommentare scheint's auch auf en.wiki zu heftigen "Überwachungsaktionen" mit falschen Verdächtigungen führen[1], hab Sockenpuppen nie nötig gehabt und war sowohl als IP als auch als User immer eindeutig als Filliou erkennbar, hab's sogar als IP immer auch kundgetan, wenn notwendig, hier also bitte meinen "Endlösungsantrag" einstellen, damit die Gesinnungswächter mich, meine Seiten und meinen Zugang nun endlich sperren. Jeder, der darf, darf mit Pro abstimmen, Diskussion braucht's keine, geht nur drum die Formalie zu erledigen, zu der ich ja mehrmals eingeladen hatte für die aber die sonst so grossen Klappen nie den Mut aufgebracht haben: Hier also mein eigenes BSV, dass man aus dem BNR widescreen bitte in den offiziellen Metaraum übertragen soll: [2]--Filliou (talk) 16:12, 19 August 2012 (UTC)

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Thanks - but I only pushed some buttons - the original work was done by the person who had request the renaming ;). Marcus Cyron (talk) 16:40, 14 November 2013 (UTC)

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Thank you for fixing my blunder in uploading File:Vertical Temperature Profile in Permafrost (English Text).jpg, Marcus! I'm sorry for the unnecessary trouble. Sincerely, User:HopsonRoad 14:58, 8 January 2014 (UTC)

No problem. Mistakes happen :). Marcus Cyron (talk) 19:53, 8 January 2014 (UTC)

Yep- While not seeing the need to rename a from German, French, Spanish or Portuguese- I have no real objections. It does seem strange that File:Nacktreiten.JPG (good German) → File:Nude female rider at horse back.jpg) surely you meant on. Then File:20080803 concluses 73.jpg → File:Nude hiking in Gard.jpg) when the convention is to say the Gard. It also looses the fact that this is in -Les Concluses not somewheres on the Gardon rivers, or at the Pont du Gard. I question 'hiking'- when the 38 subjects were just doing a quiet stroll, Naking Hiking does not seem a good translation for Randonnue. Looking at File:Naturista.jpg → File:Nude people at Praia do Abricó.jpg why at, surely they are on the Praia do Abricó in Rio de Janeiro. But no offence caused. -- Clem Rutter (talk) 14:34, 16 February 2014 (UTC)

Mostly I not try to translate names - instead of the times, the original name is not really good - and "Nacktreiten" is terrible ;). But you are right, I sadly make sometimes mistakes. Marcus Cyron (talk) 15:36, 16 February 2014 (UTC)

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Can you help by adding the coat of arms for the missing teams. Thank you. Cupa României Performances by cities and Supercupa României - two coats of arms. Thank you !

Hi, I only rename images on Commons - I don't know about the theme. Marcus Cyron (talk) 22:24, 5 September 2015 (UTC)

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A quick thanks for fixing my "historical" detective novels there. Should teach me to check such details next time instead of assuming them :). GermanJoe (talk) 00:29, 12 October 2015 (UTC)

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Filename change not ideal

Hi. I don't know who asked for this filename change, but I'm not happy with it. The new name is ambiguous and not specific enough (there are dozens of PT charts, even in one wiki. And the addition of 'chart' is weird, like saying 'the image of a picture'). Is there a way to track such name change proposals? -DePiep (talk) 12:00, 12 May 2017 (UTC)

Maybe the best is, you start a discussion on the discussion page of the image and when the participants come to a conclusion, request a reaming. Maybe for all those files? Marcus Cyron (talk) 21:20, 12 May 2017 (UTC)

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Hey, wanted to reach out to you about the comments on the talk page of Athenian Band Cup by the Oakeshott Painter (MET 17.230.5). I don't think that you meant to be rude, but please be cautious about how you write things. Inflection and body language cannot be read over the internet, so a blunt comment can run the risk of coming across as rude or even unhelpful. Speaking from an admin perspective (Tokyogirl79), it can often be more helpful to pair up a criticism with advice on how to improve the page and/or a wider explanation as to why an individual page would not be beneficial on Wikipedia - it raises the chances that the student will stick around and grow as an editor. We all go through our growing pains on Wikipedia in one way or another, after all. I do think that the creation of the page was premature and it would be best off as a draft for the time being, though.

For example, an alternative here would be to suggest that the students first create a page for the potter himself that contains a list of his known creations and a list of ones that are strongly believed to be his by reliable sources. This is sometimes a good alternative for cases where we have something that is independently notable but there isn't a whole lot out there as far as we know. (I'll post this on the article's talk page as well.) I hope you don't find this post rude - it wasn't meant to be. It's just that since the student and professor found the earlier comments rude, they're more likely to be on the defensive with further posts. Shalor (Wiki Ed) (talk) 20:38, 6 October 2017 (UTC)

I'm a 12,5 years contributor to Wikimedia projects. I was for years Admin at de:WP and I am actually Admin on Commonc for long years. I know the Admin perspective. And I know the projects. I an article get not started in a a bit usefull manor, it nearly never, NEVER!, comes to an usefull article. Beliving something else is living in a phantastic world. And for me it is rude, to come with such pseudo articles. They don't help - on the contrary, they are a real problem. From this point it is nearly impossible to grow as an editor. Teachers who let their students do such things, are a treat to the projects. I have worked a lot with students and never would let one of those who I work with do such a work. The article nearly contains any encyclopedic aspect. The less self written aspect by the author were incorrect, so I had to delete them. I really have a problem to answer you here. I'm really angry and if I remember 10 years ago, when I've tried to help Frank Schulenburg on german Wikipedia to improve the quality, I can't belive, that this is what he want for WikiEd. Marcus Cyron (talk) 21:18, 6 October 2017 (UTC)

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Im my opinion, the "Women in Red" idea goes in a false direction, so I will not support this. Please don't spam me with this! Marcus Cyron (talk) 12:14, 23 October 2017 (UTC)

Then unsubscribe in the Women in Red/Opt-out list. He's only reading off a list of people signed up. Have some manners.♦ Dr. Blofeld 11:23, 26 November 2017 (UTC)

I never signed up such a list. Marcus Cyron (talk) 13:03, 26 November 2017 (UTC)

Liber Marcus. Ich bitte um Verzeiung. Ich bin daran Schuld. Ich hatte gesehen, wie aktif Sie auf dem DE-Wiki waren und hatte gegadacht Sie wären vielleich interessiert daran teilzunehmen.--Ipigott (talk) 13:30, 26 November 2017 (UTC)

Hi Ipigott. Sorry for my strong reaction. But I really don't think, that Women in Red is really a good idea. The whole project would, if done in big style, cause so much problems. Women in Red only seems to be fair in a first view. But not in a second. But it's hard, to bring things back in track, when the accident is happened. Women in Red is focussed on on quantity, not quality. This never can bring a suitable result. Marcus Cyron (talk) 15:20, 26 November 2017 (UTC)

What accident? Long term we hope to have more of a focus on quality but right now a lot of people see 17% women biographies as pathetic and in urgent need of at least getting over 20%. I agree with you, long term there should be a strong focus on core articles and quality as well. We will get there hopefully.♦ Dr. Blofeld 22:00, 26 November 2017 (UTC)

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If you want to read the plot of the novel, then click on the hyperlink to the novel. If you want to know how the series differs from the novel, try the critical reception. I'm sorry that you are not patient enough to make use of the resource staring you in the face, but there it is. Moreover, the overall plot may be gleaned from the episode summaries. As for why no-one has bothered writing one so far (not that the article requires one--that's purely optional, like everything else)--it's probably because when the article started the show only appeared in Canada and every Canadian editor (like most of the public) knows the story already as it is the most widely known work of fiction in this country. Please adopt a more positive attitude, and learn to deal with your narcissism: complaining (whining) that the article has information you don't want and not enough of what you do want, as an editor, indicates that you really don't "get" the project, and that you yourself are the source of your own problem: if you don't think we've done enough, then get off your ass and do the work yourself. We are all volunteers here, not your paid employees, here to stand at attention and say "Yes sir!" in response to your barely-literate tirade. This mentality of yours (which you have been called out for on your talk page numerous times--it's when they tell you you are being overly "blunt")is not Wikipedia's failure; the failure is yours in that you have never looked hard at yourself and addressed it.ZarhanFastfire (talk) 23:56, 20 January 2018 (UTC)

No. Maybe you have ot understand how Wikipedia works, but I can tell you - not this way. Not "shut up and search by yourself". An article has to give the most basic information by creation. And for a TS show the story is one of these informations. If authors are not willing to write usable articles, they better let it be. Wikipedia is not a dump and also not a advertising platform. We collect knowledge. KNOWLEDGE! Not information snippets. Marcus Cyron (talk) 00:48, 21 January 2018 (UTC)

Wikipedia is a project based on collaboration and cooperation. People write what they can, when they can. Telling people the whole project has "failed" because you didn't get what you wanted out of a single article on a single day is not exactly constructive criticism, now, is it? Be honest, how would you respond to someone telling you thousands of editors have failed because I didn't find a plot for the latest Swiss miniseries of Heidi on its wikipage in German? Your complaints are rude and counterproductive (do you think we're all about to put that plot in now just because you insulted all of Wikipedia?). Your attitude is unhelpful at best, pathologically self-centred at worst. I say this knowing you may well be good at producing content from what I can see above, but face it, you are absolutely useless when it comes to providing any sort of advice to others, as several others above have told you. I suggest you stop that or else learn to do it in a civil manner ("hey guys, how about a plot, or a premise?" -- not hyperbolic hysteronics about the "failure" of the whole project) with a view to achieving a measurable goal, like a mature adult. What possible good is achieved by calling down everyone else, projecting "failure"? Who made you the supreme arbiter of what makes a "failed" or "successful" or article on Wikipedia? You said above you used to be an admin. Gee, I can't imagine why that privilege no longer stands. Where is all this coming from anyway? Are you compensating for something, that you need to do this every once in a while to make yoursef feel better? Whatever it is, you need to stop it as it's not good for you and sooner or later you are going to be in trouble from actual admins if you keep this up. Not from me, but don't be surprised down the road. Peace. ZarhanFastfire (talk) 04:47, 22 January 2018 (UTC)

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Hi, it would be interesting if you could add to this article at the infobox, at the first and second line this: the first line: | couleur boîte = 0131B4, and the second line: | titre blanc = oui, and aligning this with the other lines of the infobox, it will match the color of the infobox with the logo. Thank you!--95.179.242.201 (talk) 19:54, 4 June 2019 (UTC)

Hi, due to I don't speak french, I will not become a part of a fight at the fr:Wikipedia. -- Marcus Cyron (talk) 20:07, 4 June 2019 (UTC)

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Hi – back in February 2021, you wrote an article for de.wiki's Kurier about de:Metrodora, and left a cleanup tag and a talkpage note on the en.wiki article Metrodora. I have been looking into the article and agree that it needs some serious work; I have access to most of the relevant sources but I don't have Der Neue Pauly. Are you able to access the article on Metrodora and if so would you be able to send me a copy? Thanks! Caeciliusinhorto-public (talk) 14:02, 15 August 2022 (UTC)

Hi, the best would be, you dend me you E-mail adress via Wikimail. Then I will send you the article. But it's in German. Sadly, the english version in Brill's New Oauly is not inclouded in the WikiLibrary package, as far as I know. Marcus Cyron (talk) 15:24, 15 August 2022 (UTC)

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