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Reform Cat

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Proposed deletion of Reform Cat

The article Reform Cat has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:

ephemeral youtube video which got a minor news item in a paper. Only just released and likely to disappear from sight after next week anyway. WP:NOTNEWS.

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Reply: I plan to review this as things develop, thank you for the feedbackMikeBeckett (talk) 20:42, 2 May 2011 (UTC)

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Thank you PrincessofLlyr I have replied on your talk page. User:MikeBeckett Please do say 'Hi!' 20:32, 12 May 2011 (UTC)

Orphaned non-free image File:Reform Cat.jpg

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Hi Courcelles, the image was attached to the Reform cat page (the first page I have created) which was deleted by Admin User:The_Land permission was given for the image to be used (apologies if I did not complete the template properly) but to be of use the Reform Cat page would need to be rescued if this article is salvageable. Would you mind reviewing if the article is salvageable in your opinion if so please assist me in making the picture compliant with Wikipedia guidelines as this is the first picture I have uploaded. If the article is not salvageable the image is probably not worth salvaging. I did put a case together for consideration of saving the page in the talk page of the article but did not contest the delete as a relatively new editor I am still learning the wikinorms and do not wish to break the consensus of more experienced editors at this time. Thank you for your time and consideration of my request. MikeBeckett (talk) 21:45, 10 May 2011 (UTC)

Your recent edits

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I think this was actioned within seconds but thank you for the reminder User:MikeBeckett Please do say 'Hi!' 00:16, 13 May 2011 (UTC)

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Much appreciated! User:MikeBeckett Please do say 'Hi!' 16:31, 14 May 2011 (UTC)

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To explain I added my name to a list which I think did not warrant a signature as the others so listed did not have signatures. User:MikeBeckett Please do say 'Hi!' 15:47, 16 May 2011 (UTC)

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Advice on revealing personal info on Wikipedia

Please do not add personal information on Wikipedia. It has ruineda good editorbefore, and, in the event that you also become a good editor, may ruin you too.

Therefore, I ask that your personal information be removed. There's no problem with your contributions or your userpage or anything, but I ask you to take the advice of one of the retired, one of those who trusted the community, and the community took advantage of the trust, and snuffed out HighInBC's Wikipedian involvement like a candle in a hurricane.

Thank you for reading this. I hope you take the advice of H. --Σ _☭^★ 04:21, 17 May 2011 (UTC)

Bribie Island Seaside Museum

Hi Mike,

I am creating a new article on Bribie Island Seaside Museum. I met with John Vandenberg and Craig Franklin yesterday. Thanks for your welcome message. Cya round. —Preceding unsigned comment added byRobertwhyteus (talk•contribs) 05:14, 17 May 2011 (UTC)

You are welcome Robert I am happy to help constructively to get the best result! User:MikeBeckett Please do say 'Hi!' 05:17, 17 May 2011 (UTC)

Thank you for your help

Hello Mike,

I am relatively new to the whole back end of wikipedia and how it all works. I noticed you help me with a page I created for a company I am just starting at called Locus Technologies. Thank you very much. The new format looks easier and makes it much simpler to read. I also like the more neutral tone.I tried to remove as much bias as I could, but I am still closely involved.

It is amazing to me how you are able to just find time to help others out and that you are doing so all the way across the pond. That's pretty neat. How did you even find our page or know that I had tried to add more reference and stuff. Just hoping to learn more about this whole process / world.

Have a good day, Rick —Precedingunsigned comment added by72.244.167.227 (talk) 17:36, 17 May 2011 (UTC)

Rick my reply

You are welcome, some advice.

On the left handside menu you will note the Recent changes sections so I can see what is happening.

Wikipedians care a lot about Notable content from reliable secondary sources wherever possible Conflict of interest and Neutral Point of View. As I am sure you are aware Wikipedia has an ongoing ground war with WikiTrolls. I know that often new editors firstly meet either the deadly WikiVampires or the intimidatingWikiGoon and sometime theWikiPolice. Thanks is always welcome and greases the wheels, you might also want to consider the giving ofBarnstars, interlinking and drafting and working on articles prior to submission in your sandbox having registered for an account, experience, observation and trial and error as well as being adopted and asking questions seem to be the best ways to learn. if you have a registered account and build a profile (number of edits, length of service, quality of work -hopefully all three increase in time) then addition responsibilities may be awarded, your articles are more likely to survive and you can help others.

Kind regards

User:MikeBeckett Please do say 'Hi!' 18:13, 17 May 2011 (UTC)

PS. Typing just 4 of these ~ like ~~~~ at the end of your talk page comments leaves a signature.

Sproxil

Hi Mike. I appreciate your assistance with the Sproxil page. I am confused by the nomination for deletion that someone has just added. Can you let me know the best way to update/clean up the page? Any information on how to make it more appropriate according to wiki standards would be greatly appreciated. Opal8164 (talk) 18:20, 17 May 2011 (UTC)

Action taken, moved BLANK template Afd from article page to talk page, informed help desk that I have done this and reasons given on Talk page it was a little confusing at first. User:MikeBeckett Please do say 'Hi!' 21:24, 17 May 2011 (UTC)

Mike - Thank you much for the clarification and suggestions. I have made updates to make the article more encyclopaedic. I hope that this will resolve any concerns that user had, but if you have additional suggestions or revisions, please feel free to share. Thanks again.Opal8164 (talk) 23:25, 17 May 2011 (UTC)

Hi I have had another tweak, hope this helps! User:MikeBeckett Please do say 'Hi!' 00:17, 18 May 2011 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Genesis Housing Group

Hello! Your submission of Genesis Housing Group at theDid You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and there still are some issues that may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneathyour nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Yoninah (talk) 20:22, 17 May 2011 (UTC)

I have replied in more detail on your userpage thank you Yoninah for the feedback. User:MikeBeckett Please do say 'Hi!' 21:12, 17 May 2011 (UTC)

Hi Mike Beckett

Thank you Mike Beckett for saying Hi! I have read a lot of policies and looked around a lot. I started my first page-Mohammad Shaikh, put it up and within the first day it was taken down. It was really disappointing. I asked for editorial help and instead they took it down. I just don't understand Wikipedia. I am a professional award winning writer, although I am not published. I have not been out of university that long. I still had a little factual editing to do on the page. I have been debating with the editor ever since to put the page back up. He is rude. The deletion process man told me to go to the editor and the editor told me to go back to the deletion process-a circle. I have spent many a day wanting to shoot myself.Mindingthequill (talk) 04:26, 18 May 2011 (UTC)

May I suggest you create your own personal sandbox using this link [1] then can take time to create and craft your Article(s). May I suggest looking at the code of other articles similar to the one you want and copy paste the appropriate bits, use the preview button before going live.

However you need a notable subject with references preferably secondary references and you may well have to provide evidence in the PROD or AFD process as to why your article is particularly notable. Experience and use of {{newpage}} at the top of your code shows you are working on a new page and asks for a little latitude; {{cleanup}} or {{wikify}}asks for help improving article and making it more like a Wikipedia encyclopaedia article; {{stub}} at the bottom asks people to help add to the page; {{references}} at the top of the page asks for help referencing however this said Wikipedia is a DIY project and it takes time to improve.

May I suggest spending time to see what others are doing and helping them with improving other articles as you gain experience see what fits and what doesn't you'll improve and survive what feels like WikiVampire assault, take time to reply to edits, very rarely is it a WikiTrolls usually it is someone with positive intention to make things better by removing substandard articles or edits. The best way to overcome this is through learning and becoming more competent and chasing excellence as we all at first are Wikipedia:Dodo.

All the best, don't be hasty! (and use talkback to make sure people know your talking to them!) Thank you for all of your advice!!!Mindingthequill (talk) 22:04, 19 May 2011 (UTC)User:Mindingthequill (talk) 22:02, 19 May 2011 (UTC) User:MikeBeckett Please do say 'Hi!' 09:44, 18 May 2011 (UTC)

RE: Birthday

Thanks very much for taking the time to post the message on my talkpage :).Police,Mad,Jack (talk · contribs)☺ 12:44, 18 May 2011 (UTC)

Dear Mike Beckett: Thank you for all of your suggestions!Mindingthequill (talk) 15:38, 18 May 2011 (UTC)

Pick up your apple

Thank you for patrolling new pages. Pick up your apple is most definitely not an A7. Please take a moment to read WP:NPP to find out why, and if you still need help understanding our WP:DELETION rules, please don't hesitate to ask me on my talk page. Happy editing! --Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 11:08, 19 May 2011 (UTC)

Actually I had hoped you would find the right CSD tag to use. --Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 11:22, 19 May 2011 (UTC)

Hi Kudpung, I was wrong, you are right notice has been removed, as the article subject matter is allegedly the colleges creative work and not about the college, I should have used A1 or A2.

A7 guide: A7. No indication of importance (individuals, animals, organizations, web content). An article about a real person, individual animal(s), organization (e.g. band, club, company, etc., except schools),[4] or web content that does not indicate why its subject is important or significant. This is distinct from verifiability and reliability of sources, and is a lower standard than notability. This criterion applies only to articles about web content and to articles about people, organizations, and individual animals themselves, not to articles about their books, albums, software, or other creative works. This criterion does not apply to species of animals, only to individual animal(s). The criterion does not apply to any article that makes any credible claim of significance or importance even if the claim is not supported by a reliable source or does not qualify on Wikipedia's notability guidelines.[5] The criterion does apply if the claim of significance or importance given is not credible. If the claim's credibility is unclear, you can improve the article yourself, propose deletion, or list the article at articles for deletion.

Article in question: New article name is Pick up your apple [edit]References is a phrase that was started at thomas more college [edit]External links example.com

User:MikeBeckett Please do say 'Hi!' 11:34, 19 May 2011 (UTC)

Oops!

Can you please remove these template from your talk page - they are messing up the category lists and your talk page might get deleted! Do read WP:TPG. Now, to get back to what I was saying - if you need some help, just ask :) --Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 11:40, 19 May 2011 (UTC)

Talkback

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Public Policy Initiative would love to have you!

hi MikeBeckett, thanks for your interest in my research with the WP:USPP. I am really excited that you want to help out; your contribution will be very appreciated. I will be doing another assessment starting 23 May. Find out more about the project researchhere. How did you hear about it? ARoth (Public Policy Initiative) (talk) 20:55, 19 May 2011 (UTC)

Hi Amy, when reviewing recent changes and then checking out user talk pages I saw an early reference to your project and as I am interested in Public Policy I thought I would say Hi, it does look like a very interesting project even from this side of the pond. User:MikeBeckett Please do say 'Hi!' 21:06, 19 May 2011 (UTC)

We have a few people on your "side of the pond" helping out with the project :). I will post a message here for the next round of assessments. talk to you soon, ARoth (Public Policy Initiative) (talk) 21:11, 19 May 2011 (UTC)

Dreambear Page

Hey Mike,

my name is Anne and I just started today editing on Wiki. My first side was supposed to be about my favorite game but you wanted to delete it immediately. my question is how can i improve my site? I have no experience yet with Wiki and everything seems so complicated... Could you help me please?

Seize the day! Dagreenthing (talk) 13:47, 20 May 2011 (UTC) Hi Anne,

Welcome to Wikipedia I hope you choose to stay. Thank you for your first Article contribution.

Context

To clarify to delete an article like Dreambears immediately someone could have used theCriteria for Speedy Deletion(CSD) to propose this they would have used.

A7. No indication of importance (individuals, animals, organizations, web content). An article about a real person, individual animal(s), organization (e.g. band, club, company, etc., except schools),[4] or web content that does not indicate why its subject is important or significant. This is distinct from verifiability and reliability of sources, and is a lower standard than notability. This criterion applies only to articles about web content and to articles about people, organizations, and individual animals themselves, not to articles about their books, albums, software, or other creative works. This criterion does not apply to species of animals, only to individual animal(s). The criterion does not apply to any article that makes any credible claim of significance or importance even if the claim is not supported by a reliable source or does not qualify on Wikipedia's notability guidelines.[5] The criterion does apply if the claim of significance or importance given is not credible. If the claim's credibility is unclear, you can improve the article yourself, propose deletion, or list the article at articles for deletion.

The page would then be assessed and possibly deleted by an admin, this has not occurred.

For the record I specifically stated I felt this should not happen so other editors could see what I thought.

The procedure that I suggested and has occurred is Wikipedia:Proposed deletion PROD this gives you 7 days to challenge the decision although my suggestion to you is to delay doing so till you have tweaked your article some more. use of citations<ref>[url goes here| source name, date etc]<ref/> allow you to prove what you say. I have added a references section and the reflist will automatically update when you add them. Once editing the article to sufficient quality to comply with Wikipedia quidelines on reliability and verifiability, the article is likely to last!

Improving the article

In answer to your question. Wikipedia is here to provide information to people andDreambear may be a valid article, to prove this the more information you can provide (subject to certain defined limitations on Wikipedias scope), the better. Information on Wikipedia should be Wikipedia:verifiable and must not be Wikipedia:original research. Please show that information is verifiable and not original research by referencing reliable sources. Unsourced information may be challenged and removed, because on Wikipedia a lack of information is better than misleading or false information, to avoid such challenges, the best practice is to provide an "Wikipedia:inline citation" at the time the information is added.

Once you have verifiable sources that are not original research you then need to meet the general Wikipedia:notability guideline I hope this helps, I will have tweak to try to help with categories for you too.

HTH

User:MikeBeckett Please do say 'Hi!' 15:02, 20 May 2011 (UTC)

Hello

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I started to create a page for my company. Looks like I need to read up a bit more on posting guidelines before I jump in Any tips before I start my search?

HishamBaz I have left a message with tips on your talk page if I can help further do let me know! Kind regards Mike User:MikeBeckett -> User talk:MikeBeckett Please say 'Hi' 22:57, 20 May 2011 (UTC)

Jamie Raeburn

I've declined your speedy as this isn't a recording. Well, it has been recorded many times by various artistes and groups, but it's a broadside ballad. The article is inaccurate in that Raeburn had an 'aged mother' and a sweetheart, and thus was unlikely to be a young boy. Reputedly was a baker, and was transported for theft.http://www.scotsindependent.org/features/singasang/raeburn.htm Could be improved or prodded.Peridon (talk) 17:25, 21 May 2011 (UTC)

Peridon, I have attempted your first suggestion and improved the article then from the one line which was inaccurate, to a stub which may or may not last? User talk:MikeBeckett Please do ask questions! User:MikeBeckett 17:54, 21 May 2011 (UTC)

Looks good to me. Quick work. Peridon (talk) 18:01, 21 May 2011 (UTC)

Certainly better than "This is a song about a young boy who's sent to the colonies." and I have taken the liberty of spreading a little frivolous sunshine your way I hope you don't mind.User talk:MikeBeckett Please do ask questions! User:MikeBeckett 18:03, 21 May 2011 (UTC)

Ta. I must keep a watch on it when the bot does its archiving. I lost a barnstar that way... Peridon (talk) 18:07, 21 May 2011 (UTC)

Genesis Housing Group

Your addition to Genesis Housing Group has been removed, as it appears to have added copyrighted material to Wikipedia without permission from the copyright holder. For legal reasons, we cannot accept copyrighted text or images borrowed from other websites or printed material; such additions will be deleted. You may use external websites or publications as a source of information, but not as a source ofarticle content such as sentences or images. Wikipedia takes copyright violations very seriously and persistent violators will be blocked from editing.

The above is a standard message. I have rewritten the material, and moved the article to the new name for the merged association, Genesis Housing Association. Please carry on contributing, but in your own words! - Fayenatic (talk) 12:33, 24 May 2011 (UTC)

In my second article in response to, your edit and your comment above. I had reflected on the feedback as I had felt that my precise of the thereferenced text was sufficiently different. However I will look to making my own words more distinctive in future, as I learn to improve, thank you again for the feedback on the article which was created before the change and in response to an article creation request. I'm MikeBeckett if I can help ask! 22:16, 24 May 2011 (UTC)

Signature

Hi Mike, may I suggest that you condense your signature by piping the link to your talk page into some of the other text? Let me know if you're stuck as to how to do this. -Fayenatic (talk) 12:38, 24 May 2011 (UTC)

I have been evolving my signature to get one I am happy with, I see this as a work in progress how's this? I'm MikeBeckett if I can help ask! 22:18, 24 May 2011 (UTC)

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I replied there because you won't see the link to this page if I test if on the page. -Fayenatic (talk) 23:18, 24 May 2011 (UTC)

Online Ambassador application

Thanks, Mike. I saw your application this weekend, and was trying to find time to look into it. Once a few more people have weighed in, we can move forward with it.--Sage Ross - Online Facilitator, Wikimedia Foundation (talk) 15:02, 24 May 2011 (UTC)

Cool, thanks for the feedback! I'm MikeBeckett if I can help ask! 22:25, 24 May 2011 (UTC)

WP:USPP Spring Assessment 3

hi MikeBeckett,

Thanks for volunteering to help with assessment! There is anew assessment posted here. There are 25 articles in both this assessment and the next/final assessment. There was a huge amount of content that got added this term, hopefully the randomly selected articles will show it to be high quality. You should see some results from the assessments in the coming months. Please, let me know if you have any comments or questions about research with the Public Policy Initiative. ARoth (Public Policy Initiative) (talk) 19:50, 24 May 2011 (UTC)

OK will do! I'm MikeBeckett if I can help ask! 22:27, 24 May 2011 (UTC)

Thanks Mike, glad to have you on board! ARoth (Public Policy Initiative) (talk) 22:31, 24 May 2011 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Lee Baldry

The article Lee Baldry has been proposed for deletion (not by me) because under Wikipedia policy, all biographies of living persons created after March 18, 2010, must have at least one source that directly supports material in the article.

If you created the article, please don't take offense. Instead, consider improving the article. For help on inserting references, see Wikipedia:Referencing for beginners or ask atWikipedia:Help desk. Once you have provided at least one reliable source, you may remove the {{prod blp}} tag. Please do not remove the tag unless the article is sourced. If you cannot provide such a source within ten days, the article may be deleted, but you can request that it be undeleted when you are ready to add one. TerriersFan (talk) 14:42, 26 May 2011 (UTC)

Not a surprise, action agreed, I had put notice of clean up needed and the need for references, no action taken so deletion process is appropriate. MikeBeckett 17:50, 26 May 2011 (UTC)